Manual Deindexing - Pure Spam in WMT - Please Help

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I have a large number of sites that I do a blog network with.
Some of the network I would rank.
The other day, a large sum of these sites were deindexed.

in WMT the message says "Pure Spam" .

Some of them I had sent backlinks to. others, not as aggressively.

Out of my pool of sites, I dont know why these were targeted.

My main question to you guys is: Is this warning usually when they find a part of a network? Or is ti more due to the sites backlinks?

My sites were def visited by a computer in Mountain View the day of the deindexing, but all visits occured at exact same second, so they must've been mass-loaded, quickly reviewed, and then deindexed.

Anyones worthwhile input would be greatly appreciated.

PS - None of the sites had spun content, hidden text, or anything shady onsite.
#deindexing #manual #pure #spam #wmt
  • Profile picture of the author squadron
    Originally Posted by The Oilman View Post

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    in WMT the message says "Pure Spam" .
    I'd love to see that. Got a screenshot to share?
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve Waller
    I would guess this is because they identified your network as the message for unnatural links is different.

    Can you think of any obvious footprint that you might have left for Google to follow? Think hosting, content, design, linking out to money sites, etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author PerformanceMan
    Ho ho ho, Merry Christmas! Santa Google came down the chimney but he didn't bring gifts this year.

    Basically this message means Google doesn't like the content or the links in and out. I doubt you can recover these domains. I'd unhook the links to any unaffected sites fast.
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  • Profile picture of the author The Oilman
    My sites were:

    On different IP's. different hosts and A-class IPs.
    Pure, clean non-spun content that varied in length.
    Had images, youtube videos.
    Linked out to authority sites.
    Some sites ranked, soem did not.
    Some had some back-link spam to them, some had none.
    All had 100% clean profiles at one point when I acquired the domains.
    All had unique plugins, unique themes.
    Unique timezones.

    Most used wordpress, however some Web 2.0's were also deindexed.
    I did in deed have some interlinking, but today I lost another site that has been deindexed.
    Someone else built for me and it had NO interlinking at all.

    so basically I cannot figure out how they found my sites, and why did they choose these ones specficially?


    Anyone who has ANY experience in deindexing or know how it could happen -- please give me your feedback.

    Anyone with negative feedback please keep it to yourself as this is very stressful and hard on me. Please keep jokes and negativity to yourself. I raelize this is how the SEO world is - up and down -- but i am just dumbfounded on how they found these domains.

    And I do not want to recover the domains. I am just curious how they have found them. I realize they can go to my site and reverse engineer, but I don't think that is what has happened as I can see in my logs the IP's that they used. They used the same IPs and visited at the exact same time, down to the millisecond. It looks semi-algorithmic. Not sure it was 100% manual. All the pages were opened and closed at exactly the same time, but with a browser.

    I also do not think I have been ratted out by a competitor, as I am in a niche that doesn't have a ton of competitors.
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    • Profile picture of the author patadeperro
      Originally Posted by The Oilman View Post


      Anyone who has ANY experience in deindexing or know how it could happen -- please give me your feedback.
      I do, Did you have all the sites on the same WMT or the same Analytics tool? if the answer is yes... that is how they identified the trend
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  • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
    In your first post you mention you have a "blog network" thats plugged into WMT. When you say "blog network" do you mean just a network of your money sites, or the network of blogs you use to rank your money sites?

    If its the latter then plugging them into WMT was the same as putting up a neon sign saying "my networks here". If its the former it could have well been your backlink profiles on each site being identical or at least created in the same fashion.

    You don't think it was competition reporting you, but remember your competition could well be a total newcomer to the niche who is just clearing the road for themselves before they take your place.

    Can you be a bit clearer on the "blog network" thing though, its confusing me.
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  • Profile picture of the author jinx1221
    That and some better details about your comment, "Some of them I had sent backlinks to. others, not as aggressively".. like, how aggressively, and with what? Just thinking about how the term "Pure Spam" sounds a little on the harsh side, even for Google. One of your network sites could've been blasted (maybe not even by you) and in turn the penalty got trickled down because of your analytics being the same.
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  • Profile picture of the author The Oilman
    No they were not on any of the same WMT's.
    No Google analytics was used.
    Some had statcounter on them but I do not think there is ways to trace sites via statcounter since it creates a totally unique code every time.

    Yes some sites were backlinked by backlinking gigs and stuff. But some had NO backlinkg ever on them and had no rankings, just aged domains I purchased a while back that had totally clean link profiles.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
      Originally Posted by The Oilman View Post

      No they were not on any of the same WMT's.
      No Google analytics was used.
      Some had statcounter on them but I do not think there is ways to trace sites via statcounter since it creates a totally unique code every time.

      Yes some sites were backlinked by backlinking gigs and stuff. But some had NO backlinkg ever on them and had no rankings, just aged domains I purchased a while back that had totally clean link profiles.
      Smells like someone ratted you out man, or you slipped up somewhere you can't see right now, Sorry to hear it anyway. This new age of Neg SEO is a perpetual path to the demise of the little guy, while the unbreakable big corpa authority sites laugh all the way to the bank.

      Some might think Google introduced Neg SEO for this very purpose. Give them guns and watch them kill each other.
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  • Profile picture of the author The Oilman
    Thanks for everyone's help.
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  • Profile picture of the author The Oilman
    No. All the whois was private.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
    Based on the information its impossible to know. I am not even sure by what you said which domains were in WMT and which were not. Not sure what you mean by deindex either. Its relatively rare for a domain to be deindexed for receiving spam. its more likely when it is the source of what Google calls spam. Also would have to see what the network sites look like as most of the time its pretty easy to see a network.

    IF so then yeah you could have been reported by a competitor. its unlikely you are the only one going for a term so the motivation is certainly there for someone
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  • Profile picture of the author insley
    Like squadron, I would like to see a screen shot of the words "pure spam" in WMT.
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  • Profile picture of the author The Oilman
    Google "pure spam webmaster tools"
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  • Profile picture of the author The Oilman
    Of my 50+ sites a handful were on WMT completely different detached accounts

    Of the deindexed some had wmt some did not

    To see the pure spam warning just google it
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  • Profile picture of the author DPM70
    I realize they can go to my site and reverse engineer, but I don't think that is what has happened as I can see in my logs the IP's that they used. They used the same IPs and visited at the exact same time, down to the millisecond. It looks semi-algorithmic. Not sure it was 100% manual. All the pages were opened and closed at exactly the same time, but with a browser.
    Was this across all sites that were de-indexed? Same IPs (how many?) Mountain View IPs? Exactly the same visits recorded - all recorded at the same time?
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    If multiple sites tanked at the same time there has to be some kind of connection, probably spammy links.

    Watch the video below, do any of your domains have a bad rep. before you bought the domain & added the domain to your network? Is it possible you bought another domain owners problem? Do you have any new domains?


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  • Profile picture of the author nik0
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    Did you only link out to a handful or so money sites of yours?

    How many posts did these domains have on average?

    Did they all link out to the same sites?

    For what it's worth, I never build links to my network sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author The Oilman
    I have a money site, and about 50 PBN sites link to it. Most are Wordpress. Some had about 15 posts, some only a few posts. I put about 4 links on each of them that links to the money site (if I would do it again Id' not do that many but since I had already done it I did not want to undo my work). But I also linked out to some related sites and always to authority sites. Also each had youtube videos. And like I said there was SOME interlinking, but no reciprocal linking or any circular linking.

    However, some that had no interlinking and simply linked to the money site and authority sites were also hit. Some of these also had no artificial backlinks. So there is no pattern in what they deindexed.

    But I agree with Yukon. I am thinkling one or more had bad history, and someone came in and followed the trail. However, they never deindexed the main money site.

    If I could do it again I'd not interlink anything at all, link only to money site and authority sites, research the history closely, and never build links to the PBN sites.

    Yes the IPs were about 3 diff IPs. They came from mountain view, visited once, then visited again about 5 minutes later. They used IE and Chrome browsers, and loaded all the deindexed sites at exactly the same time, down to the millisecond.
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  • Profile picture of the author The Oilman
    I also have a friend who is a well respected blog-network builder and he build a small network (for this same money site) and one of his sites got deindexed, a few days later.
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