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Is ranking a website really possible using manual SEO methods without automated SEO tools?

by IM Lover
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Hi Warriors.

I'm just curious about what you really think about this, I have a lot of friends that mostly use SEO tools to rank their websites but none actually use manual processes or anything.

Is it possible to rank without SEO tools / automated services ? if so, how would one really be able to do something like that...

Thoughts Warriors?

Regards
#automated #manual #methods #ranking #seo #tools #website
  • Profile picture of the author travelbiz
    is it possible, you just need to buy the right links on the right sites ... or product great link baits
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    • Profile picture of the author IM Lover
      Originally Posted by travelbiz View Post

      is it possible, you just need to buy the right links on the right sites ... or product great link baits
      I'm interested to know just how many Warriors really go down the manual route, over using automated services. I read a lot of posts from Warriors giving the smack down about (blackhat SEO) stuff, so how many actually really do use the long term game and manually implement the SEO I wonder :rolleyes:

      Regards
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      • Profile picture of the author travelbiz
        so create a poll for your question

        I do seo manually ... buying blog posts
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        • Profile picture of the author IM Lover
          Originally Posted by travelbiz View Post

          so create a poll for your question

          I do seo manually ... buying blog posts
          That's cool because it's safer this way of course right, I would rather be in it for the long game than get penalized down the road after making a quick buck.
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  • Profile picture of the author WebMeUp
    Originally Posted by PPC Lover View Post

    Is it possible to rank without SEO tools / automated services ? if so, how would one really be able to do something like that...
    Theoretically, it's possible. But it will take you an awful lot of your time and efforts. One can go insane trying to analyze several thousand backlinks from different sources, checking where a website is standing is SERP, etc.

    As for paid tools, you know, they just allow you to automate some stuff easily, but they aren't some magic SEO machine that would take your site to Google's top in a click of a mouse.

    What you should understand that SEO is a complex process. Some of its parts should be done manually (writing high-quality content, optimizing content for keywords, etc.), some parts need to by automated to save your time and to achieve results easier (rankings check, backlink research, keyword research, site audit etc.). Thus you will achieve the top search placement.
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      I rank websites all the time with only manual work but that doesn't mean it comes for free, I setup a whole network for that and we write and post it all manually so yes of course possible but not cheap.

      Cheaper way would be link outreach and writing great content for that, however not everyone is skilled to write such content and when you have to buy it it also turns out expensive.

      So yes possible but often not cheap or pretty time consuming, that's why everyone loves those automated tools.
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      • Profile picture of the author LloydMS
        I agree 100% with Nik0. It's absolutely easy to rank a website using nothing but manual links. But easy doesn't always equate to cheap. But, the rankings are strong, the links are great, and you probably have a website that will survive future updates.

        But, this type of approach in my opinion takes more skill and knowledge than just using tools. So you really have to do your homework and learn.
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  • Profile picture of the author patadeperro
    Yes, manually buying your network of sites to backlink your money properties
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    • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
      Originally Posted by patadeperro View Post

      Yes, manually buying your network of sites to backlink your money properties
      LOLZ

      That's right, and works like a charm every time.

      Time: I build about 10 links a day, if I'm in the mood to work. So lets say about 5 a day to be honest with myself. Takes about 5 hours if I included time to write an article (I suck at writing). These days I'm outsourcing a lot of the writing, so maybe an hour if I have articles in my inbox.

      Money: If I where to weigh up the cost of lets say senuke, proxies, decap, server to run them on etc.. And also the money I would lose in down time to rebuild everything after Google slaps me every few months because I'm link spamming. I don't see any loss really.

      Not to mention when I buy an expired domain, that really can't be counted as a cost. That's a very valuable asset in my mind. Something that will only ever really make me money if anything. Something that's mine and I control. An asset that I can resell/rent at a much higher price then what I ever paid for it, any time I feel like it.
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      • Profile picture of the author patadeperro
        Originally Posted by Kevin Maguire View Post

        LOLZ
        Not to mention when I buy an expired domain, that really can't be counted as a cost. That's a very valuable asset in my mind. Something that will only ever really make me money if anything. Something that's mine and I control. An asset that I can resell/rent at a much higher price then what I ever paid for it, any time I feel like it.
        BEcause you understand the difference between an expense and an investment, a good expired domain is an asset, you can re sell the domain, you bought it because its backlink profile, traffic, etc..., you can set up an entire websiute there and sell backlinks, or you can set an entire website and sell a segment of your network, etc.....
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        • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
          Originally Posted by patadeperro View Post

          BEcause you understand the difference between an expense and an investment, a good expired domain is an asset, you can re sell the domain, you bought it because its backlink profile, traffic, etc..., you can set up an entire websiute there and sell backlinks, or you can set an entire website and sell a segment of your network, etc.....
          Or I just hate manually spinning articles..
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  • Profile picture of the author YasirYar
    Originally Posted by PPC Lover View Post

    Hi Warriors.

    I'm just curious about what you really think about this, I have a lot of friends that mostly use SEO tools to rank their websites but none actually use manual processes or anything.

    Is it possible to rank without SEO tools / automated services ? if so, how would one really be able to do something like that...

    Thoughts Warriors?

    Regards
    As far as I know, most people were seeing good results with Seo do not use automated software anymore. They use manual methods where they just build a handful of links but those links come from really high quality legitimate sources.

    Some examples:

    - Homepage back links
    - contextual and relevant blog posts
    - paid, very high niche directories
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  • Profile picture of the author bkvictory1
    SEO tools should be for tier 2, 3 links.
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  • Profile picture of the author run
    I prefer to have 1 juice link rather than 1,000,000 crappy links.

    It's easy to blast 1,000,000 of trash backlinks to my site, but it's hard to obtain 1 juice backlink.

    People are using 2nd, 3rd, 4th or 5th tier links by using automatic linking because they want to have juice to their 1st tier sites as well as to get index. Yet, what is the juice if all those links are just pure trashes.

    One relevance authority powerful link from an authority source no need to blast backlink to it because it's powerful enough to easily get indexed and has much juice in it to rank our main site.

    I do automatic only with keyword research, link checking, rank tracking and something similar but not for link building or content spinning. And, spinning by using software is harder and worse than manually rewriting the content.
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    I just wanna tell you that most of the links in the signature are trash and/or a trap to make you pay!
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    • Profile picture of the author YasirYar
      Originally Posted by run View Post

      I prefer to have 1 juice link rather than 1,000,000 crappy links.

      It's easy to blast 1,000,000 of trash backlinks to my site, but it's hard to obtain 1 juice backlink.

      People are using 2nd, 3rd, 4th or 5th tier links by using automatic linking because they want to have juice to their 1st tier sites as well as to get index. Yet, what is the juice if all those links are just pure trashes.

      One relevance authority powerful link from an authority source no need to blast backlink to it because it's powerful enough to easily get indexed and has much juice in it to rank our main site.

      I do automatic only with keyword research, link checking, rank tracking and something similar but not for link building or content spinning. And, spinning by using software is harder and worse than manually rewriting the content.
      Exactly.

      Getting high quality links isn't easy and htat is why most people use automated link blasts which do not seem to work that well.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tashiads
    Originally Posted by PPC Lover View Post

    Hi Warriors.

    I'm just curious about what you really think about this, I have a lot of friends that mostly use SEO tools to rank their websites but none actually use manual processes or anything.

    Is it possible to rank without SEO tools / automated services ? if so, how would one really be able to do something like that...

    Thoughts Warriors?

    Regards
    I never go for any paid seo tools..Just doing manual work..Its better to work manually for me..But must say it need much time..Sometimes feel very lazy to work..
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  • Profile picture of the author marrick
    Doing manual SEO has already been proven to be effective. I can't say that it is more effective than using tools cause I haven't tried one before. And today, using tools in doing some sort of submission or syndication can cause your site to get slapped by Google because as far as as I know, you have no control over the backlinks that the tools get for you. The drawback is that you might end up having a bunch of low quality and irrelevant links to your site.

    Tools for analyzing keywords, competition, and market profitability are good.
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  • Profile picture of the author affilorama-portal
    That is possible and yes (like others already said here), there are a lot of high ranking sites that do not use automated tools anymore. After the update from Google, it's more safe to do manual backlinking and focus more on quality then quantity links. Remember, you can always outrank any site by doing quality linkbuilding. Try to focus more on building links through content marketing (do blog posts, forum posts, press release) and combine this with good social media marketing.

    I also recommend that you update yourself of the latest techniques in SEO. Always read blogs and forums on SEO.

    Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author Hplglobal
    Originally Posted by PPC Lover View Post

    Hi Warriors.

    I'm just curious about what you really think about this, I have a lot of friends that mostly use SEO tools to rank their websites but none actually use manual processes or anything.

    Is it possible to rank without SEO tools / automated services ? if so, how would one really be able to do something like that...

    Thoughts Warriors?

    Regards
    It is quite possible to have rank through manual seo process in fact i have done all seo for my projects manually and never used any kind of automated system.
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  • Profile picture of the author easypr
    I do the manual method to promote the website, because it is the safe method. We search quality website and submit our website on their, but automation tools not doing soo. So with the help of tools we get instant ranking, but not for long period, the reason behind that is using automation, we are unable to check website where our website submitted. When our website is live in low quality site, then it is very difficult to remove from their and in that case google will penalize our website and we loose our ranking.
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  • Profile picture of the author Anteela
    We've only done manual SEO for our clients. All of our manual linkbuilding is handled in-house, giving us more control over the quality of linking domains and the timing of when the links are developed. We also place a lot of emphasis in on-site SEO and content. This is a bigger short-term investment of our resources and time, but in the long run, it results in other sites and blogs giving us one-way links out of their own free will.

    We also do not fall victim to any of Google's anti-spam or over-optimization updates because of this. I much prefer this for our clients (all law firms in competitive markets, so extra precaution is nice).
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