Do social share count as a kind of back link?

There is no any hard and fast rule that social share is a back link or not think it like a platform for brand awareness but I guess most of you all have noticed that sometimes Facebook page appears in the Google search results then it will acts as an back link.

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danielcollins

10 years ago

No it will not count as a backlink ever. Social media is a separate medium from where you can share something about your sites and from there you will get social signals which will help you to improvise your online visibility.

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promo87

Banned 10 years ago

Originally Posted by danielcollins

No it will not count as a backlink ever. Social media is a separate medium from where you can share something about your sites and from there you will get social signals which will help you to improvise your online visibility.

I haven't said that it will count as back links. I have only said that sometimes it helps, i don't know if you have tried searching with some keywords you might get Facebook page.

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internalsoul

10 years ago

Originally Posted by fitnesschap

Or are they just good for juice? Been wondering this for a while. I know they're not technically back links but just want to know what value they bring to the SEO of a page.

Cheers guys

Though they are not technical backlinks, but they do help in SEO. With all the recent changes, social media shares is considered to be one of the ranking factors in today's SEO.

Originally Posted by danielcollins

No it will not count as a backlink ever. Social media is a separate medium from where you can share something about your sites and from there you will get social signals which will help you to improvise your online visibility.

Thats not true. Google do count some of the social media shares like google plus posts, pinterest pins, stumbleupon etc pages as backlink even though they are considered as social media sites but all of them are nofollow. You can go to your webmasters tool and download all links pointing your site. If you have your sites shared on google plus, pinterest, stumbleupon then you can find them on that csv file.

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Kevin Maguire

10 years ago

Originally Posted by internalsoul

Though they are not technical backlinks, but they do help in SEO. With all the recent changes, social media shares is considered to be one of the ranking factors in today's SEO.

Thats not true. Google do count some of the social media shares like google plus posts, pinterest pins, stumbleupon etc pages as backlink even though they are considered as social media sites but all of them are nofollow. You can go to your webmasters tool and download all links pointing your site. If you have your sites shared on google plus, pinterest, stumbleupon then you can find them on that csv file.

Show me one single citation from Google that states.

No-Follow links are a ranking factor in today's SEO.

Complete misinformed, uneducated non-sense once again. And once again your signature says it all, by way of proof how clueless you are about SEO. Still selling manual Blackhat link spam and calling it Whitehat and safe to customers. YUP...

Here, Knock yourself out.

Time: 1:20

Can nofollow links hurt my site's ranking? -...

Time: 0:15

Should I use rel="nofollow" on internal...

Time: Start to Finish

Are nofollow links irrelevant? - YouTube

Pretty much anytime a question about "No-Follow" is answered. We get the same answer. WOW.

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internalsoul

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Kevin Maguire

Show me one single citation from Google that states.

No-Follow links are a ranking factor in today's SEO.

Complete misinformed, uneducated non-sense once again. And once again your signature says it all, by way of proof how clueless you are about SEO. Still selling manual Blackhat link spam and calling it Whitehat and safe to customers. YUP...

First of all you show me where i have mentioned specifically this statement "No-Follow links are a ranking factor in today's SEO." on my post. If you cant it, then get yourself a spectacles. I simply just answered OP's question about social media shares and its impact on SEO and later if they are really counted as backlinks. If you dont believe social media has anything to play its role in today's seo then get your facts right and start over educating yourself with SEO.

Regarding my signature and my knowledge, then i do think its quite better than yours. I say everything based on my experience not just by reading something on internet. Regarding manual blackhat spam and white hat seo, first learn the difference and then we can debate.

Originally Posted by Kevin Maguire

Here, Knock yourself out.

Time: 1:20

Can nofollow links hurt my site's ranking? - YouTube

Time: 0:15

Should I use rel="nofollow" on internal links to a login page? - YouTube

Time: Start to Finish

Are nofollow links irrelevant? - YouTube

Pretty much anytime a question about "No-Follow" is answered. We get the same answer. WOW.

Do you really know what is the meaning of 'No-Follow'? Don't think yourself as the only person who have seen the videos. First video says No-follow link wont hurt your site's ranking but overuse of it, manipulating the system with suspicious number of no-follow links can lead to manual penalty.
Second video is about no-following internal links, and i cant see the reason why u r relating that here. Third video is from year 2010 and much has changed since then unless you are still in past."Pretty much anytime a question about "No-Follow" is answered" - yes pretty much same answer anytime buddy that is it wont hurt your site. So get your fact straight before quoting me like that with irrelevant answers just to present yourself as a SEO Expert.

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Kevin Maguire

10 years ago

Originally Posted by internalsoul

Though they are not technical backlinks, but they do help in SEO. With all the recent changes, social media shares is considered to be one of the ranking factors in today's SEO.

Thats not true. Google do count some of the social media shares like google plus posts, pinterest pins, stumbleupon etc pages as backlink even though they are considered as social media sites but all of them are nofollow. You can go to your webmasters tool and download all links pointing your site. If you have your sites shared on google plus, pinterest, stumbleupon then you can find them on that csv file.

You can't read your own post? I bold it for you to recall.

The context and timestamp of videos are not the issue. It is why I marked the times clearly for you when he states things like.
No-follow links do NOT pass pagerank.
No-Follow links are not counted (dropped) from the link graph.
No-Follow internal links run on the exact same rules as an external (They don't pass juice)

The only people who preach No-Follow links are a ranking factor, are people who sell No-Follow links. Your WSO says it all man, as you outright lie to potential customers about the "Whitehat" SEO service your trying to sell.

Manually posting link spam to manipulate SERPs, is exactly the same as automating it.
It's Blackhat SEO no question about it.

Blackhat SEO and Whitehat SEO

I manually build private blog networks for my clients and myself.
I use data mining tools for finding appropriate properties to manually buy.
I manually build and design each site I buy.
I have articles manually written by writers to fill each site with content.
I edit and post each of these article manually.
I create anchor text rich backlinks within the articles manually.
I do this all manually to manipulate Google SERPs.

And after all that "manual" work, guess what? I'M BLACKHAT

Maybe I'd be better hitting the report WSO button and let you debate it with the mods.

Care to explain your Whitehat SEO service to us now?

Great. can't wait to see what they offer in this "Whitehat SEO" pack.

Hmm? What does that mean? He said it was Whitehat

WHAT THE DUECE?????? XRUMER BLASTS

Your customers might be....

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internalsoul

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Kevin Maguire

You can't read your own post? I bold it for you to recall.

I can read my post properly and can even read yours, on the other hand it seems like you have reading disorder. Because the way you have bold the words in the whole context and summing them to make a new sentence to make your point doesn't seems logical at all. By your method i can make several such sentences but that would be silly because i don't have time to fight with anyone uselessly. So you better read things properly before jumping on to conclusion and place your opinion based on your imaginary thoughts.

Originally Posted by Kevin Maguire

The context and timestamp of videos are not the issue. It is why I marked the times clearly for you when he states things like.
No-follow links do NOT pass pagerank.
No-Follow links are not counted (dropped) from the link graph.
No-Follow internal links run on the exact same rules as an external (They don't pass juice)

The only people who preach No-Follow links are a ranking factor, are people who sell No-Follow links. Your WSO says it all man, as you outright lie to potential customers about the "Whitehat" SEO service your trying to sell.

Manually posting link spam to manipulate SERPs, is exactly the same as automating it.
It's Blackhat SEO no question about it.

Now, i got it. You are such a PR fancy guy, but if you thing PR combining with do-follow is the only ranking factors then all i can do is

. Do one thing, search this forum and you will get several case studies on dofollow and nofollow. You consider social media shares as blackhat spam, then be it. Honestly , man your cup is full and cant help it there as its already filled. I dont care what you practice but dont try to impose it on others.

Originally Posted by Kevin Maguire

Blackhat SEO and Whitehat SEO

I manually build private blog networks for my clients and myself.
I use data mining tools for finding appropriate properties to manually buy.
I manually build and design each site I buy.
I have articles manually written by writers to fill each site with content.
I edit and post each of these article manually.
I create anchor text rich backlinks within the articles manually.
I do this all manually to manipulate Google SERPs.

And after all that "manual" work, guess what? I'M BLACKHAT

OMG! Glad you told me, I am so fortunate to know it. I guess Google does it automatically for you and rank your site without doing anything from your part

as being Google's favorite tutor:rolleyes:.

Originally Posted by Kevin Maguire

Maybe I'd be better hitting the report WSO button and let you debate it with the mods.

Care to explain your Whitehat SEO service to us now?

Great. can't wait to see what they offer in this "Whitehat SEO" pack.

Hmm? What does that mean? He said it was Whitehat

WHAT THE DUECE?????? XRUMER BLASTS

Your customers might be....

Why don't you do it. I can deal with them as long as i am being fair.
I don't think, i need to answer anything to you over here as its not my service thread and you are not a buyer. If you have problem, post it on my service thread and i will have you properly answered. So, its better you take your reading disorder to somewhere else and lets not ruin this thread.
Cheers
~Soul

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Kevin Maguire

10 years ago

Originally Posted by internalsoul

~Soul

And thats your best defense?, some mambojahambo response.

Finding it hard to defend your lies and misleading services are we? Trying to sell people that Blackhat is Whitehat, and No-follow is the same as Do-follow.

Ignorance is bliss I guess for you. But when it comes to you misleading people out of their money and putting their businesses at risk with your lies. It becomes a big issue to me.

Xrumer and Whitehat. Too funny to even read in same SEO services sales page.

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paulgl 10 years ago

Put these people on the spot. Anyone that says social shares help
with SERPS, they are giving junk info. Run from these people.

Write your site on a placard. Stand by the freeway. Hopefully people
will remember and visit the site. Perhaps a few will like the site. Imagine
that some of these people have blogs and give you a backlink that counts.
Perhaps they even have an authority site and give you a good anchor.

So, I guess standing by the freeway with your domain on a sign helps
with SERPS.

Anyone want to say emphatically that standing with sign will help SERPS?
No? Then what kind of nonsense are you selling with social shares?

6 degrees of separation could prove anything helps SERPS.

Put your domain on a roll of toilet paper. Give them out to friends and
family for Christmas. Same scenario as above, you could say wiping
your butt helps with SERPs.

Paul
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internalsoul

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Kevin Maguire

And thats your best defense?, some mambojahambo response.

Finding it hard to defend your lies and misleading services are we? Trying to sell people that Blackhat is Whitehat, and No-follow is the same as Do-follow.

Ignorance is bliss I guess for you. But when it comes to you misleading people out of their money and putting their businesses at risk with your lies. It becomes a big issue to me.

Xrumer and Whitehat. Too funny to even read in same SEO services sales page.

You talk about defense and yet you failed to provide logical reason about creating your own statement from others context. If my response is mumbojumbo then yours is not any different.

I dont need lies to defend my statement. Atleast not like you who pretends to know everything but again mislead people with lack of information with zero personal experience. I really dont find it reasonable to argue with people who have misconception about anything and everything and forces others to believe his misconception. Since you provided me with matt cutts videos to prove me wrong and you are right, then i would do the same. Cant believe i am doing it but still check this video and try to change your own conception not mine. It came from the mouth of the very same person.

Does Google use data from social sites in...

Its a straight answer to the thread and to you. It's a video from dec 2010 and much has changed since then but still social signals are counted nomatter if they are nofollow. Now dont tell me matt cutts is selling nofollow links

. I still cant believe, people like you still live in the past who haven't watched this video yet and still coming bashing at people with little to no knowledge. What matt cutts said in that video is not going with what you claimed by summing up my words. So stop pretending to be an expert when u r not.

Ignorance is not what i did, but since you have reading disorder so, i wont argue with that too. Regarding my service and what i do, i bet you that you wont be able to find a single person who i have cheated. So stop pretending about being a godfather of my buyers and showing your pity concern about their money at risk, honestly you dont care and neither do they care about your concern.

Regarding xrumer, whitehat, sales page and all other things on the same page, you know nothing about what we do. If you have concern about my service, post it on my thread and i will have you answered properly as i told earlier. Dont try to be too smart as you are not.

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Kevin Maguire 10 years ago

Originally Posted by internalsoul

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Confusing real-time search with web search..?

You do know crawlers can't access https:// right?

https://www.pinterest.com/
https://twitter.com/
https://www.facebook.com/

And you know no-follow tags are dropped from the link graph right?

And I was going to let your WSO slide, but now you can take it up with the mods and let them decide.
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xpesos

10 years ago

They are counted as authority but i think that pinterest still provides you backlinks for number of repins, they are nofollow but still i have seen increase in SERP's
using stumbleupon+pinterest+facebook alone i have ranked couple of pages in Google

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GeorgR.

10 years ago

They DO have some value since Google considers "social signals" as one factor.

They have a value as one aspect in a link-building campaign, and even if only for creating a more natural link-profile. Since a natural link profile does NOT only have "high PR" links...or only blog-comments...or only social bookmarking links.

ALONE...not so much...but no serious link-builder would try to build links using only one type of link....it's a smart and useful combination of all those things together.

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