High PR Domains With 0 Backlinks?

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i'm trying to find some good aged domains. I have a few prospects from godaddy auctions that have decent page rank but when I plug them into Market Samurai, some of them have 0 backlinks. Even some domains that have a PR of 5 have 0 backlinks. What gives?
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Use AHREFs.

    Zero backlinks means BS PR.
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    • Profile picture of the author Krishna876
      Yea AHREFs says no results in index.

      I figured something was wrong but why does Market Samurai show such a high PR and how can I tell if the PR is fake?

      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      Use AHREFs.

      Zero backlinks means BS PR.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
        Originally Posted by Krishna876 View Post

        Yea AHREFs says no results in index.

        I figured something was wrong but why does Market Samurai show such a high PR and how can I tell if the PR is fake?
        You just did.
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by Krishna876 View Post

        Yea AHREFs says no results in index.

        I figured something was wrong but why does Market Samurai show such a high PR and how can I tell if the PR is fake?
        Anyone that owns a domain can fake the PR with a 301 redirect. They redirect, wait for PR to update & remove the redirect. Easy/fake PR.

        You have to be careful buying domains, rule of thumb is, PR is fake until you see the links to prove it's legit. No links, no PR.

        You still need to be able to tell If links will stick after a sale. It's just as easy to jack up PR with legit links & the seller pull the plug after the sale. Some sellers are ruthless & clever.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
    Originally Posted by Krishna876 View Post

    i'm trying to find some good aged domains. I have a few prospects from godaddy auctions that have decent page rank but when I plug them into Market Samurai, s
    Yardies nu suppose to use market Samurai fi check backlinks. Dat a fi Japanese. You suppose to use SEO spyglass , Ahrefs or backlink monitor. Wha? You come from foreign? Cho man do betta dan dat.

    But yes if you see no backlinks then its a bad buy. There are plenty of bad high Pr domains out there now because the last update was based on old data and many of the domains already lost the links they had.
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    • Profile picture of the author Krishna876
      Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

      Yardies nu suppose to use market Samurai fi check backlinks. Dat a fi Japanese. You suppose to use SEO spyglass , Ahrefs or backlink monitor. Wha? You come from foreign? Cho man do betta dan dat.

      But yes if you see no backlinks then its a bad buy. There are plenty of bad high Pr domains out there now because the last update was based on old data and many of the domains already lost the links they had.
      LOL I hear you bossy. So ignore PR and make a decision based on strictly backlinks?
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
        Originally Posted by Krishna876 View Post

        LOL I hear you bossy. So ignore PR and make a decision based on strictly backlinks?

        Yes I. Always have to go wid the bakclinks. A dat you really a buy. Whenever you don't see di backlinks you have fi tell it to go bout its blouse and skirt and look another filly

        a di backlinks we a deal wid. Every time
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        • Profile picture of the author yukon
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          Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

          Yes I. Always have to go wid the bakclinks. A dat you really a buy. Whenever you don't see di backlinks you have fi tell it to go bout its blouse and skirt and look another filly

          a di backlinks we a deal wid. Every time
          Dragon NaturallySpeaking?
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          • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
            Originally Posted by yukon View Post

            Dragon NaturallySpeaking?
            Cease and settle Yuke. Dis lingo is beyond your comprehension. When you go to the Caribbean make sure to hire a translator and pay him nuff money or dem a go tek one look at yu and say - See di american make we nyam him out. Charge him a hundred US for a patty and tell him its caviar meat in a golden bun.

            I'm sorry but the VW commercial will not help. Cool runnings
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            • Profile picture of the author Krishna876
              Lol! You're a comedian.

              Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

              Cease and settle Yuke. Dis lingo is beyond your comprehension. When you go to the Caribbean make sure to hire a translator and pay him nuff money or dem a go tek one look at yu and say - See di american make we nyam him out. Charge him a hundred US for a patty and tell him its caviar meat in a golden bun.

              I'm sorry but the VW commercial will not help. Cool runnings
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              • Profile picture of the author MallofStyle
                It looks fishy. I would not buy. How can anyone even begin to debate on having a high PR with 0 links, even if the site is 10 yrs old.
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        • Profile picture of the author Krishna876
          This is a good point. So I guess rather than looking at the domains pagerank, I should be looking at the PR of the backlinks.

          Any good tools you can recommend to analyze them? MajesticSEO only gives an amount and referring ips etc. How can I drill down to see the quality.


          Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

          Yes I. Always have to go wid the bakclinks. A dat you really a buy. Whenever you don't see di backlinks you have fi tell it to go bout its blouse and skirt and look another filly

          a di backlinks we a deal wid. Every time
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          • Profile picture of the author Ben Acharyaa
            Originally Posted by Krishna876 View Post

            Any good tools you can recommend to analyze them? MajesticSEO only gives an amount and referring ips etc. How can I drill down to see the quality.
            There are a few metrics that really matter while buying an expired domain. PR is obvious. Trust flow/citation flow from majestic seo and page authority/domain authority from moz are equally important. I'd use netpeak checker to see if the domains have good enough TF/CF, PA/DA. If they do then i'd run then in seo spyglass to manually check their backlinks.
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            • Profile picture of the author Krishna876
              I guess it takes a little getting used to but I'm looking at a site that has a citation flow of 15, trust flow is 0 and backlinks to domain is 20. PR is 2. Domain age is 8. Nothing to jump for joy over but I think it will make a good backlink.

              What do you think?

              I'm trying to build a nice network of high PR sites to use as backlinks. What are the minimums I should be looking for as far as # of backlinks, PR, domain age, citation flow, etc??

              Thanks...

              Originally Posted by Ben Acharyaa View Post

              There are a few metrics that really matter while buying an expired domain. PR is obvious. Trust flow/citation flow from majestic seo and page authority/domain authority from moz are equally important. I'd use netpeak checker to see if the domains have good enough TF/CF, PA/DA. If they do then i'd run then in seo spyglass to manually check their backlinks.
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              • Profile picture of the author reaboss
                Originally Posted by Krishna876 View Post

                I guess it takes a little getting used to but I'm looking at a site that has a citation flow of 15, trust flow is 0 and backlinks to domain is 20. PR is 2. Domain age is 8. Nothing to jump for joy over but I think it will make a good backlink.

                What do you think?

                I'm trying to build a nice network of high PR sites to use as backlinks. What are the minimums I should be looking for as far as # of backlinks, PR, domain age, citation flow, etc??

                Thanks...
                trust flow> 10, citation flow> 10, #of backlinks dont matter as much, its more the quality of the backlinks thats more important, domain age > 1 year preferably
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              • Profile picture of the author Ben Acharyaa
                Originally Posted by Krishna876 View Post

                I guess it takes a little getting used to but I'm looking at a site that has a citation flow of 15, trust flow is 0 and backlinks to domain is 20. PR is 2. Domain age is 8. Nothing to jump for joy over but I think it will make a good backlink.

                What do you think?

                I'm trying to build a nice network of high PR sites to use as backlinks. What are the minimums I should be looking for as far as # of backlinks, PR, domain age, citation flow, etc??

                Thanks...
                Dont waste your time and money on a domain with trust flow of 0. You may try doing a manual backlink check using seo spyglass and see if there are enough backlinks to support the PR but my guess is there arent any. Give this thread a read before you buy any domains.
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                • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
                  Originally Posted by Ben Acharyaa View Post

                  Dont waste your time and money on a domain with trust flow of 0.
                  Agreed I have never seen a domain with no trustflow pan out as a good domain
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    • Profile picture of the author fmolina2010
      Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

      Yardies nu suppose to use market Samurai fi check backlinks. Dat a fi Japanese. You suppose to use SEO spyglass , Ahrefs or backlink monitor. Wha? You come from foreign? Cho man do betta dan dat.

      But yes if you see no backlinks then its a bad buy. There are plenty of bad high Pr domains out there now because the last update was based on old data and many of the domains already lost the links they had.
      rasta man. why no PR man. lol

      Ahref and magestic seo will demystify these sites. You can check their backlinks from there. If you want to get more detailed, get their backlinks from there and check for page rank plus check the "previous" snapshot of this site in archive.org. If it shows a "different" page, then it's a fake PR. A 301 redirect was probably used to achieve it.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
        Originally Posted by fmolina2010 View Post

        rasta man. why no PR man. lol
        Cuya...every tourist swear dem a talk patwah because dem use di word "rasta"

        If it shows a "different" page, then it's a fake PR. A 301 redirect was probably used to achieve it.
        Do a "info:domain.com" check in google. Wayback machine misses a lot of sites. Doesn't have to be faked with a redirect right now though. There are plenty of domains that upgraded in the last Pr update because the update was based on old data. they are useless at ranking a site because they lost all their backlinks but they still show PR.
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  • Profile picture of the author tcrews
    High PR with zero backlink is impossible. He's faking the PR.
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  • Profile picture of the author FPagetraffic
    Originally Posted by Krishna876 View Post

    i'm trying to find some good aged domains. I have a few prospects from godaddy auctions that have decent page rank but when I plug them into Market Samurai, some of them have 0 backlinks. Even some domains that have a PR of 5 have 0 backlinks. What gives?
    Market Samurai is not trusted enough! To track the backlinks use AHREFs either, or you can get the index backlinks details by using "Link: domain name" (at google). Normally High pr with 0 backlinks is fake PR.

    Hope Post will help!
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  • Profile picture of the author DizenSounds
    Fake PR (not intentional) by redirecting the domain to a domain with PR.

    Eventually the toolbar will update when the site is recrawled and it will be a PR N/A
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  • Profile picture of the author reaboss
    use a fake pr checker Check Page Rank! before you buy any domain. it also gives you how strong the pr really is, so you know that the pr will stick after the next pr update
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  • Profile picture of the author tbtb123
    PR is not an indicator for the quality and quantity of backlinks!
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