MY SPINN ARE HORRIBLE WILL IT STICK?

laurencewins

10 years ago

Spinning is NOT the way to get good quality articles. You are better to write them or pay somebody to do it for you.

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paulgl

10 years ago

I spin all the time. Niche articles and posts only.

Normally, I look for a "top 10" or "best ways to" article.

Like 10 things to ready your home for resale, for example.

Instead of a list of 10 things, I make it into an article, in
my words, rearranging the list of things to do, even
combining some into one paragraph.

Best way to spin is via human: yourself.

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jackrice

10 years ago

Originally Posted by paulgl

I spin all the time. Niche articles and posts only.

Normally, I look for a "top 10" or "best ways to" article.

Like 10 things to ready your home for resale, for example.

Instead of a list of 10 things, I make it into an article, in
my words, rearranging the list of things to do, even
combining some into one paragraph.

Best way to spin is via human: yourself.

Paul

thank you for the tip but my takes me longer time about 4hours for 500 words of articles, is this time OK for spinning

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seococonuts

10 years ago

You should spend time spinning your articles- as boring as it may sound!

For speed, you should try either wordAI or spin-rewriter. They do compromise on quality as they are "auto-spinners", but after they have been spun, you can manually go through the article and make the necessary changes.

If you get the settings right, spin-rewriter does produce some pretty good spins.

If you are spinning non-original content, be sure to spin the paragraphs too- without this, you might find that copyscape flags the content as duplicate.

For best practices though, you shouldn't rip off anyone else's content- just 30 minutes of your own time to write an original article is worth it.

If you have any more questions, let me know and I will be happy to help.

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jackrice

10 years ago

Originally Posted by seococonuts

You should spend time spinning your articles- as boring as it may sound!

For speed, you should try either wordAI or spin-rewriter. They do compromise on quality as they are "auto-spinners", but after they have been spun, you can manually go through the article and make the necessary changes.

If you get the settings right, spin-rewriter does produce some pretty good spins.

If you are spinning non-original content, be sure to spin the paragraphs too- without this, you might find that copyscape flags the content as duplicate.

then what is the best way for making a good spin and how long will it take?
having a terrible spin will the search engine index such spinn?

If you have any more questions, let me know and I will be happy to help.

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For best practices though, you shouldn't rip off anyone else's content- just 30 minutes of your own time to write an original article is worth it.

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jackrice

10 years ago

also I here that wicked article creator is a good spinner, is this true?

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GeorgR.

10 years ago

The "best" way to spin is obviously to do it manually. It's a HELL of work. You spin sentence varations and you spin word variations. You need a very good grasp on the English language since the finished article needs to "flow" and make sense, no matter how you spin it. I have NOT come across one single software which can produce a meaningful and well readable article automatically. If a maker of a spinning tool claims this they are simply lying.

"Several hours" for a 500-800 words manual spin (sentence variations and words) is possible, yes.

If you think it may not be worth it, consider rewriting articles or have someone write articles. I enjoy writing a lot ever since I got Dragon Natural Speaking, it speeds up things a lot. I prefer writing 5 articles over making some monster spin any day...

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jackrice

10 years ago

Originally Posted by GeorgR.

The "best" way to spin is obviously to do it manually. It's a HELL of work. You spin sentence varations and you spin word variations. You need a very good grasp on the English language since the finished article needs to "flow" and make sense, no matter how you spin it. I have NOT come across one single software which can produce a meaningful and well readable article automatically. If a maker of a spinning tool claims this they are simply lying.

"Several hours" for a 500-800 words manual spin (sentence variations and words) is possible, yes.

If you think it may not be worth it, consider rewriting articles or have someone write articles. I enjoy writing a lot ever since I got Dragon Natural Speaking, it speeds up things a lot. I prefer writing 5 articles over making some monster spin any day...

yea, you just hit the nail on the with your words " I have NOT come across one single software which can produce a meaningful and well readable article automatically" thus it worth spending time to spin.

secondly i would have loved writing manually for backlinks but the challenge is I have so many blogs with 100s of inner pages, writing for each will take lot of time hence resulted to article spinning

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Kevin Maguire

10 years ago

Originally Posted by jackrice

yea, you just hit the nail on the with your words " I have NOT come across one single software which can produce a meaningful and well readable article automatically" thus it worth spending time to spin.

secondly i would have loved writing manually for backlinks but the challenge is I have so many blogs with 100s of inner pages, writing for each will take lot of time hence resulted to article spinning

Jack
If your English and grammar are as bad as your postings here, I would recommend you outsource all of your spinning and writing. Unless you are writing in your first language of course.

English is my first language, but my grammar really sucks. So I just outsource everything.

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hostdare

10 years ago

Avoid associating yourself with article spinning software and article spinners. Building your reputation could take months or years. You could easily loose it in a matter of seconds when readers find out that you've been plagiarizing content

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GeorgR.

10 years ago

Originally Posted by nipon

Avoid associating yourself with article spinning software and article spinners. Building your reputation could take months or years. You could easily loose it in a matter of seconds when readers find out that you've been plagiarizing content

The fact that you can write a new article extra for a spin completely eludes you? I don't do a lot of spins anymore but most of them are done that way, an article is written before the actual spin.

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Kevin Maguire

10 years ago

Originally Posted by GeorgR.

The fact that you can write a new article extra for a spin completely eludes you? I don't do a lot of spins anymore but most of them are done that way, an article is written before the actual spin.

Nipon's and auto reply bot George.

Do you still offer that spinning service in your sig. Might use you after the holidays for a few bits if you do.

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ibarena

10 years ago

No article spinner or software can bring that creativity and freshness which a "human" writer can.

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jackrice 10 years ago

Originally Posted by ibarena

No article spinner or software can bring that creativity and freshness which a "human" writer can.

point to note am using it for backlinks, have already state it here in this thread that I have lots of blogs with hundreds of inner page, are you suggesting i should manually be writing for all of this blogs, this will surly take years.

I have this to say, the spinning tool thus have it place in IM but most people really are misusing it, but if you dear to use it the right way, surley you will get the benefits from such tool
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seekdefo

10 years ago

Here is the best tutorial you will ever find on spinning. I follow it all the time

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jackrice 10 years ago

Originally Posted by seekdefo

Here is the best tutorial you will ever find on spinning. I follow it all the time Advanced Article Spinning Techniques With The Best Spinner - YouTube

thanks for the video find time to watch it
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seococonuts

10 years ago

I tried to reply to your PM but my inbox is full and for some reason I can't delete the other messages.
I have a super-quick method that I'd like to share with you

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nataton

10 years ago

Hi guys, I definitely agree that there is no software which can do the perfect automatic spin. I have been testing a few on my own and the output was nothing but garbage

. So, I decided to do all manually and this is what I am doing for the last 2 years. I am a professional writer but became a professional spinner too. I successfully completed over 100 projects for native clients and all were satisfied. Manual work is the only thing which can guarantee that you will end up with good quality spun articles.

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jackrice

10 years ago

Originally Posted by nataton

Hi guys, I definitely agree that there is no software which can do the perfect automatic spin. I have been testing a few on my own and the output was nothing but garbage

. So, I decided to do all manually and this is what I am doing for the last 2 years. I am a professional writer but became a professional spinner too. I successfully completed over 100 projects for native clients and all were satisfied. Manual work is the only thing which can guarantee that you will end up with good quality spun articles.

So then how long will take to spin 500 word?

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nataton

10 years ago

Originally Posted by jackrice

So then how long will take to spin 500 word?

Well, it depends. If it is only a word/phrase level, I can spin 500 words in 15-20 minutes. If the sentence level is included, then 1 hour, more or less. Of course this is if I don't write the original content. And I would just like to add that it is not true that spinning is not a good choice. The problem is that there are few good spinners out there. With a few sentence level spins and a smart choice of synonyms, you can get quality and readable content.

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jackrice

10 years ago

Originally Posted by nataton

Well, it depends. If it is only a word/phrase level, I can spin 500 words in 15-20 minutes. If the sentence level is included, then 1 hour, more or less. Of course this is if I don't write the original content. And I would just like to add that it is not true that spinning is not a good choice. The problem is that there are few good spinners out there. With a few sentence level spins and a smart choice of synonyms, you can get quality and readable content.

for me i spent close to two hours to spin 500 words

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nataton 10 years ago

Originally Posted by jackrice

for me i spent close to two hours to spin 500 words

2 hours only for word/phrase level? How many synonyms that includes?
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babay

10 years ago

I would stay away from spinning. Google is able to detect poor grammar in content. In addition, ever since Hummingbird, spinning content around keywords is useless. Webpages are ranked via alphanumeric matching anymore. Its about user intent now.

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elisaP

10 years ago

Hi, agree spinning is not the optimal choice but when I do spin, I spin and write at the same time. It is like anything else, overtime you will become much faster. 4 hours for a 500 word spun article .... yikes! Learn to write with a lot of descriptive words/phrases and nested spins (use the thesaurus in microsoft word). Don't forget to spin paragraphs, and graphics. Then run it through a tool to proof the content before hand for grammar, spelling etc.

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jackrice 10 years ago

[QUOTE=elisaP;8804844]Hi, agree spinning is not the optimal choice but when I do spin, I spin and write at the same time. It is like anything else, overtime you will become much faster. 4 hours for a 500 word spun article .... yikes! Learn to write with a lot of descriptive words/phrases and nested spins (use the thesaurus in microsoft word). Don't forget to spin paragraphs, and graphics. Then run it through a tool to proof the content before hand for grammar, spelling etc.[/QUOTE

which spinning tool will you recommend for use?
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cypherslock

10 years ago

I've found Spin Rewriter to be excellent, and I've used Spinner Chief, TBS, Spin Chimp. It's all in how you spin, but Rewriter makes it quite easy, and really shortens my correction time. Of course, it also depends on the quality of the original article...

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jinx1221

10 years ago

Would people kindly ignore this thread and quit bumping it? It's getting annoying and he obviously is just lonely and in need of friends. Thank you.

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Mike Anthony 10 years ago

Originally Posted by jinx1221

Would people kindly ignore this thread and quit bumping it? It's getting annoying and he obviously is just lonely and in need of friends. Thank you.

I keep reading the title and wondering what in the world is going on that no one has addressed the issues it raises. Its like spinning Imers don't even know good grammar anymore.
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jackrice 10 years ago

Originally Posted by jinx1221

Would people kindly ignore this thread and quit bumping it? It's getting annoying and he obviously is just lonely and in need of friends. Thank you.

if you are tired of this thread, why don't you just by pass the thread and let people with useful post contribute
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- jinx1221 10 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by jackrice
  
  if you are tired of this thread, why don't you just by pass the thread and let people with useful post contribute
  
  CAUSE YOUR SPINN IS ALLWAYSS WILL BE HORRIBBLE.
  
  Besides, the time it's taking for you to ask these stupid questions about how long it takes to spin you could be done spinning by now
  
  Here's a quick tutorial:
  
  1 - Spin at paragraph level
  2 - Spin at sentence level
  3 - Spin at word level (optional)
  
  What spinning program to use?
  
  Use any spinning program.
  
  How long should it take to spin?
  
  However long it takes.
  
  There. Go do it. :rolleyes:
  
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