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Tiered backlinking = NEgative SEO

by seamy82
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Hi,

I carried out some tests on a few keywords and found that multiple tiers of web2.0s hurt my ranking. A single tier of web 2.0s pointed at my money site helped rankings but using web2.0s as tier 2 pointing at a blog website on paid hosting not sub domain pointed at my money site was detrimental for my ranking for that keyword. I dropped 20 places within a few days. Just thought I'd save you some grief. Don't know how tihis works.

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#backlinking #negative #seo #tiered
  • Profile picture of the author nik0
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    Quick guess: Mass amount of blog comments in tier 2?
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  • Profile picture of the author Matthew Anton
    You built web2.0s to web2.0s? You can normally go money site <-- web2.0 <-- forum profiles, blog comments, etc.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeffery Moss
      Originally Posted by Matthew Anton View Post

      You built web2.0s to web2.0s? You can normally go money site <-- web2.0 <-- forum profiles, blog comments, etc.
      I'm going to make a note of this strategy and try it out. Do you ever use more tiers in your linking even beyond that or would that be considered unnatural?
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by Jeffery Moss View Post

        I'm going to make a note of this strategy and try it out. Do you ever use more tiers in your linking even beyond that or would that be considered unnatural?
        Which is it, are you building junk links or not? :rolleyes:

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        Originally Posted by Jeffery Moss View Post

        Google frowns on mass backlinking and if you suspect the site owner who sits at the top spot for your keyword engaged in spamming, then why not report him? That will make way for other site owners who didn't break the rules. No fair of Google to say they want legitimate backlinking but then reward others who break the rules with top spot on Google.
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  • Profile picture of the author seamy82
    Yep built web2.0s to web2.0s and it spit the dummy out. For one of the keywords I build web 2.0s to a blog site - new domain (not subdomain) - PR 0 and that keyword got a pasting.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bambu
    One experiment and you have written tiered backlinking off? Lots of variables here, including good ole Google dance, QFR, etc.

    I would continue testing before coming to any broad sweeping conclusions. Plenty of SEOs use tiered linking with great success. Just keep in mind that there are right ways and wrong ways to build your tiers.
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    • Profile picture of the author seamy82
      It's not one experiment. I've not seen this approach work in recent times with any degree of success. In fact, I wouldn't mind if they just did not work but they seem to be negatively affecting the keywords to compound matters.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
        Originally Posted by seamy82 View Post

        It's not one experiment. I've not seen this approach work in recent times with any degree of success.
        Multiple people have reported a decline in tiered link building effectiveness. Tiered link building is not dead. Its obvious that Google has more work to do but its also obvious that they have begun to address it. This board will be in denial for at least two to three years after it is eradicated as a viable method (probably within the next 18 months) . Why?

        Its the last technique still left in the autobot linking strategy and people will not know what to do without automated linking tools. Many have already abandoned SEO because the other uses of automated tools have dried up.

        A world without GSA, Magic submitter, Senuke, scrapebox comment blasts and all the various "Demon" named software out there is just too much for them to process.
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        • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
          Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

          Multiple people have reported a decline in tiered link building effectiveness. Tiered link building is not dead. Its obvious that Google has more work to do but its also obvious that they have begun to address it. This board will be in denial for at least two to three years after it is eradicated as a viable method (probably within the next 18 months) . Why?

          Its the last technique still left in the autobot linking strategy and people will not know what to do without automated linking tools. Many have already abandoned SEO because the other uses of automated tools have dried up.

          A world without GSA, Magic submitter, Senuke, scrapebox comment blasts and all the various "Demon" named software out there is just too much for them to process.
          Or to quote the greatest.

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  • Profile picture of the author crazymatt
    There is NO negative SEO if you links aren't junk links.
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    Depend on how is your content. Spun version with junk article = Negative SEO.
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  • Profile picture of the author RyanLB
    I would guess that tiered linking is fairly easy to detect and unnatural when A) there is a lot of low quality links on the 2nd tier B) standard pyramid structures are used or C) tier 2 properties link to multiple tier 1 properties.

    It just isn't natural and probably would never happen organically to have that many interlinking properties or have massive amounts of low quality links pointing to the tier 1 property.

    I don't do a whole lot of tiered linkbuilding any more but when I do it's tier 2 property->tier 1 property->money site with quality on the 2nd tier as well as the first. I just don't bother with low quality links anymore.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dimitris
    Web 2.0s unfortunately are losing their value in general, but especially in terms of how we use them, single post properties, spun articles, outgoing links in the same...
    On the other hand, the benefits of Web 2.0 links, if done properly, are high and will never harm your SERP. Good niche related blogs in Layer 1, and high DA&PA blogs with good content in layer 2, linking to other authority sites beside upper layer Web 2.0.
    Blogging and reblogging are terms which will never die, at least not for a years.
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