Interesting thing about over-optimization !?

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Hello,

I`ve just checked Google WMT.

In the Content Keywords, i have for example my main keyword with 11096 Occurrences, and with the Significance 100%. When i checked the Top Pages with that keywords, i was surprised to found that the keyword has been located the most times in the wp-content folder (more exactly in the archives of images). You know that each time you upload a photo, Wordpress auto-resize the image in 5 ways, and i have the keyword on each image. Since i have about 300 images hosted, you take the conclusion.

I checked if wp-content folders (and the folders with images archives too) are indexed by Google, and guess what, they are.

This can cause over-optimization on on-page to my main keyword?

If yes, what i need to do?
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  • Profile picture of the author MallofStyle
    You need to check the occurrence with relation to the overall occurrence. For example if the occurrence of the main keyword if more than 12%, then it is over-optimization and you should work on other keywords equally to bring the % down.
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  • Profile picture of the author squadron
    Originally Posted by adystanley View Post

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    This can cause over-optimization on on-page to my main keyword?

    If yes, what i need to do?
    Assuming it is a problem, you could block Google from those image folders using robots.txt or a Wordpress plugin.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
    Over optimizing would be based on a page-level, not whats in your root folder. So whats the fuss here?

    Each page you serve to both search and visitor does not contain all 11k image alt keywords does it? No, your site only served the requested images to match the query and device.
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  • Profile picture of the author bigcat1967
    maybe name images different keywords?
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  • Profile picture of the author adystanley
    Yes but right now to rename all the images is a boring task, since there are over 200 images (* 7 resizes each image) so it will be about to rename 1400 images.

    I added the Disallow: /wp-content/ to robots.txt

    Do you think i solve something if i use the Remove URLs from WMT to remove these root folders from Google Index?
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  • Profile picture of the author pizzacashmon3y
    yeah don't rename every single image manually that would take forever lol
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Why would you even stuff 300 images with the same keyword to begin with, what purpose would it serve? Are you even trying to rank any images?

    Are you doing something like this:
    • car-1.jpg
    • car-2.jpg
    • car-3.jpg
    • etc...

    Show a couple of image URL examples.
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    • Profile picture of the author michaelra
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      Why would you even stuff 300 images with the same keyword to begin with, what purpose would it serve? Are you even trying to rank any images?

      Are you doing something like this:
      • car-1.jpg
      • car-2.jpg
      • car-3.jpg
      • etc...
      Show a couple of image URL examples.
      I've been doing that without realising it.. export my gadget review photos from Adobe Lightroom with the same file name. I didn't add any ALT or TITLE manually when writing post with Windows Live Writer (just left them blank)

      Just realised all images ended up having the filename as the ALT + TITLE *gulp*. Too late to fix hundreds of posts (each having 6-15 images) O_o
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by michaelra View Post

        I've been doing that without realising it.. export my gadget review photos from Adobe Lightroom with the same file name. I didn't add any ALT or TITLE manually when writing post with Windows Live Writer (just left them blank)

        Just realised all images ended up having the filename as the ALT + TITLE *gulp*. Too late to fix hundreds of posts (each having 6-15 images) O_o
        To be honest it's not that big of a deal as long as all the images aren't on the same live web page (one page). You don't want a bunch of images all with the same name on one web page. If your trying to rank images, they need to be more detailed (alt-text).

        If you have something like one image per page then none of this matters for file names, you can get away with car-1.jpg, car-2.jpg, etc... all being in the same folder.

        There's stronger ways to rank images than file names, example keyword anchor-text links pointing directly at an image URL.
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        • Profile picture of the author michaelra
          Originally Posted by yukon View Post

          To be honest it's not that big of a deal as long as all the images aren't on the same live web page (one page).
          They are lol.. since a review post normally explains about 1 gadget plus tons of photos from different angles, they are all on the same page/post.

          At least I've stopped doing them since a couple of weeks ago
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          • Profile picture of the author yukon
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            Originally Posted by michaelra View Post

            They are lol.. since a review post normally explains about 1 gadget plus tons of photos from different angles, they are all on the same page/post.

            At least I've stopped doing them since a couple of weeks ago
            Is all the alt-text the same, for all images per page?

            Look at your Google Cache (text version) does the page look keyword stuffed from all the same image alt-text?
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  • Profile picture of the author adystanley
    yukon, but since all my images are are in the wp-content folder, (and also in the subfolders, i mean uploads/2013/08, 2013/09 etc.), and all the images contains my main keyword that i want to rank on it, this can't cause over-optimization to that keyword?

    Since Google are showing this in WMT at occurences, this can cause a penalty on all domain?

    I added Disallow: /wp-content/ to my robots.txt, should i also use the Remove URL's manually to remove from Google index these folders:

    wp-content/uploads/2013/08/
    wp-content/uploads/2013/09/
    etc.

    I don't want to rank images, but the problem is that it seems it's already a little penalty, since all my posts are around 50 (yes, all, no exceptions) and the SEO is good enough to rank.

    ?
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    • Profile picture of the author yukon
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      Originally Posted by adystanley View Post

      yukon, but since all my images are are in the wp-content folder, (and also in the subfolders, i mean uploads/2013/08, 2013/09 etc.), and all the images contains my main keyword that i want to rank on it, this can't cause over-optimization to that keyword?

      Since Google are showing this in WMT at occurences, this can cause a penalty on all domain?

      I added Disallow: /wp-content/ to my robots.txt, should i also use the Remove URL's manually to remove from Google index these folders:

      wp-content/uploads/2013/08/
      wp-content/uploads/2013/09/
      etc.

      I don't want to rank images, but the problem is that it seems it's already a little penalty, since all my posts are around 50 (yes, all, no exceptions) and the SEO is good enough to rank.

      ?
      I seriously doubt you have a penalty based on having folders with the same keyword in all the image file names.

      The only time I can see that as an issue is If all the images are on a single web page, even then it would only matter If your trying to rank the images, or like I said earlier If you use the image file names as alt-text where it would show the same alt-text as plain text over & over... on the Google Cache (text version).
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  • Profile picture of the author adystanley
    Should be any problem if i disallow this?

    Disallow: /wp-content/

    I added this line to my robots.txt in Wordpress and i saw a huge drop in traffic for my website.

    The reason why i added it is because Google indexed over 1400 images which containing all my main keyword which i want to rank. (eg. car)

    You think the drop in traffic can be because of this?
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    • Profile picture of the author LarryKowalsky
      Yes. You need to add specify directory with pictures.
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    • Profile picture of the author adystanley
      Any other oppinions?
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    • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
      I can't understand your logic. You want to rank for a keyword, but want to block Google from indexing images that might appear with that keyword?
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      • Profile picture of the author adystanley
        Originally Posted by nettiapina View Post

        I can't understand your logic. You want to rank for a keyword, but want to block Google from indexing images that might appear with that keyword?
        I did it because the keyword appeared few times for an image (this because once you upload an image it got resized few times) and think about 200 images that i had ... I thought i can get a penalty because of over-optimization.
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    • Profile picture of the author adystanley
      Any other answers please? I need more suggestions...
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  • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
    There's been some thread merging going on here, so it seems that your question has been answered a few times already.

    I don't believe it's a problem. Also, I think I've seen a WP plugin for renaming images floating somewhere, but can't remember where. Google is your friend.
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    What's your excuse?
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