`Build a Private Blog Network WSOs` PBN courses and WSO`s are all over is this a bad sign ?

I do not think we will ever see them do that. There are real legitimate reasons for domains being dropped and picked up by someone else.

I think they will combat the issue from other ways:

• They've already gone after SEO hosts. They will continue to do that.
• Monitor outbound link patterns. For example, if 5 sites all link to the same 8 other sites, that could be a flag.
• Monitor blog style sites where full posts on are on the homepage.
• Watch platforms being used. For example, if a site has 95% of its links coming from Wordpress sites, trigger a review.

There is a ton of stuff like that which they can do to uncover networks.

But I do agree with you. I wish there were a lot fewer of these courses being sold. Actually, I wish none were being sold.

I don't have a lot of time this morning (and due to the sillness I see in this forum - not referring to this thread - I won;t be spending as much time here in 2104). However I think you are correct. Google has gone after everything marketers use and its not rational to think they will not touch this over the next few years.

As has been pointed out I don't think this will be a measure that affects a domain expiring. It can however be applied to sites that go through auctions and are bought or bid on there. I don't buy the if they have not done it yet they won't argument. That even failed with negative SEO being impossible arguments.

Heres the thing. I think Register Compass has no more than two or three programmers (frankly I know of only the owner but just in case).They have been able to track almost all domains that go through Godaddy,Namejet and Snap names. Google could (and might already) have such capabilities within a day.

Think about it What if register compass had a database stretching back four years. That database would have almost every domain in every network bought. What if you sent a google bot to crawl just through those sites looking for patterns of link building in them

Not a freaking domain private or public would be safe. Now what if Google says forget that. lets do somethng else. Lets make every domain that goes through these auctions unable to pass pagerank for a year or two (oh they can rank but they can't make any other site rank)

Game over. Death knell to the present aftermarket.

Point being they have plenty options how to go about it and since they have gone after every single thing marketers on forums talk about and use its unreasonable to think this won't be on their agenda at some point

Thank you Niko yes the buying complete sites would be a good way round it, But it must be quite worring to you as it is me as I use PBN`s for ranking sites and of course your own SEO business is so vulnerable to google just devalueing the link profile or just deindex the domain and make you prove you where the owner ?

And my inbox is full of PBN courses this month its not a good feeling is it or doesnt it bother you ?

Matt Cuts said not so long ago that he would be surprised if pagerank got updated before 2014. Turned out they updated it last December anyway but that was after 10 months silence.

I don't think we really need PR, unless stats from Moz, Majestic, Ahrefs etc use PR as one of their variables to come up with metrics like MozRank, TrustFlow, DA etc.

Pretty much this. No talk of how to set up the sties , seldom covers anything but Godaddy (so that the prices just soared over there), maybe about a paragraph or two on faked Domains with no training on how to pick the domains and analyze the links and where they are located.

I was told from time to time by a few nits that I ripped off people with my course which sold for $97 before it was retired (to be included in another package later when I get around to it) but I have yet to hear any of my people get their networks deindexed and when they forward domains they buy afterwards for me to look at they are pretty good. I never would have gone for the $27 market. If you are talking about building a network and think over $50 is too much to pay to know how to do it right then you are already off to a poor start.

Like Mike said, if they cancel domains that pass auctions to pass on link juice then it won't make any difference whether it's relevantly themed or not. Google is not going to sit there finding the needles in the haystack. They just don't want people to buy links, nothing more then that to it.

Link selling won't die though as there are other ways, for example:

- buying aged domains and juicing them up with links from deleted web2.0 blogs and such that have pagerank
- buying complete websites with PR
- broken link building
- throwing in some real white hat links through out reach (expert roundup stuff to increase incentive, glad I learned that one today).
- relevant local directories or some other public stuff
- perhaps what Mike is busy with now

Sure all more time intensive or expensive but once figured out and semi-automated it should work out.

I mean why wouldn't a cheap VA be able to do link outreach when he gets very specific instructions to source sites and emails that are mostly premade and a little bit personalized.

Now insert common sense & there's no problem.

If it's one of these junk sites popular on WF PBNs, sure the site is an easy target.

I don't lose any sleep at night, then again I have real sites, not junk domains like vote-for-us-2001.com with outbound links pointing at domains selling ipads from Amazon.

Even in the crappiest possible private network setup you'd be 1000x worse off using a public blog network (I'm assuming that's what you are suggesting). At the very least setting up a private network and failing, you will at least hopefully learn a little something along the way