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How can he on top with only almost forum backlinks?

by getrich1
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Hi,

Recently I tried to analyze a site doing product launch . This one is often on top 1 or 2 with many products and it seem that he only builds backlinks from forums and there's around only 50 backlinks(I used ahrefs to check but I use free version so I can't see all of his backlinks but I believe almost of them are from forums). I know that those are high pr forums but domain pr is not relevant to page pr right? Whenever he comments, creates a new thread or creates a profile, isn't it pr 0 or n/a? How can high pr forums help him climb on top of google easily?

Here's one of his page: seozenpro-review.com/reviews/youtube-quick-cash-review/
#backlinks #forum #top
  • Profile picture of the author nicolasodc
    Hi,
    Well his on-site SEO seems definitely ok - maybe overdone actually.
    If the forums are SEO-related, I'm sure it might help - plus you should definitely check with a paid account - ahrefs offers a 7 day trial and moz a 30-day refundable subscription.
    But I understand your concern - we are in 2014 and supposedly bad quality site and bad quality linking should NOT work anymore - but Google is just an algorithm.

    Anyway you should also check the google local search, maybe it's not an interesting keyword anyway....

    Oh btw PR is not really important anymore - You should check MOZ Page Authority and MOZ Domain Authority for a better view.

    Nicolas.
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    • Profile picture of the author lucidzfl
      you think moz pa and moz da are more important than pr now?
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      • Profile picture of the author rudi
        Originally Posted by lucidzfl View Post

        you think moz pa and moz da are more important than pr now?
        No, they are just something else that should be taken into account. PR is still king but it is not the be all and end all.

        PA/DA are created my moz alone and is effectively there own interpretation on PR. Google does not consider PA/DA but it does consider PR obviously because it is there own.
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        • Profile picture of the author nicolasodc
          Originally Posted by rudi View Post

          No, they are just something else that should be taken into account. PR is still king but it is not the be all and end all.

          PA/DA are created my moz alone and is effectively there own interpretation on PR. Google does not consider PA/DA but it does consider PR obviously because it is there own.
          Yes, PR is considered by Google, but it gets less and less weight every day...
          Many people who were hit by Google algorithm had a lot of high PR backlinks... and yet they were penalized, because those were very spammy pages.

          I think that you should check both of them - and anywaym always check the number of external links on the high PR page where you want to post a link, and if it's a page in the same niche.
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      • Profile picture of the author nicolasodc
        Originally Posted by lucidzfl View Post

        you think moz pa and moz da are more important than pr now?
        I'm not an expert
        But yes I don't look anymore for high PR page... I rather look at Moz PA and Moz DA (plus, remember that PR is not updated often... while PA and DA are often updated).
        If I try to get a link on a page, I will first look at the PA for that page...

        Nicolas.
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        • Profile picture of the author Alex Greene
          Originally Posted by nicolasodc View Post

          I'm not an expert
          But yes I don't look anymore for high PR page... I rather look at Moz PA and Moz DA (plus, remember that PR is not updated often... while PA and DA are often updated).
          If I try to get a link on a page, I will first look at the PA for that page...
          A very good point to think about. The most recent PR update frustrated almost everyone. Who knows if the next update take place after 2 years.
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    • Profile picture of the author getrich1
      Originally Posted by nicolasodc View Post

      Hi,
      Well his on-site SEO seems definitely ok - maybe overdone actually.
      If the forums are SEO-related, I'm sure it might help - plus you should definitely check with a paid account - ahrefs offers a 7 day trial and moz a 30-day refundable subscription.
      But I understand your concern - we are in 2014 and supposedly bad quality site and bad quality linking should NOT work anymore - but Google is just an algorithm.

      Anyway you should also check the google local search, maybe it's not an interesting keyword anyway....

      Oh btw PR is not really important anymore - You should check MOZ Page Authority and MOZ Domain Authority for a better view.

      Nicolas.
      Hi nicolas, ahrefs only give free version with limited function, you mean their 7 days refundable?

      Yes it's not a high volumn search keyword because we're doing launch jacking, so people only search this keyword during the launch time. However the competition is still high but he's only use forum backlinks and can defeat others.

      I check the moz authority and it's quite the same as pr. The forums are quite high pa, but it's not related to the page or thread he post link or coment right? I mean Domain authority doesn't affect the page authority, does it?
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      • Profile picture of the author nicolasodc
        Originally Posted by getrich1 View Post

        Hi nicolas, ahrefs only give free version with limited function, you mean their 7 days refundable?

        Yes it's not a high volumn search keyword because we're doing launch jacking, so people only search this keyword during the launch time. However the competition is still high but he's only use forum backlinks and can defeat others.

        I check the moz authority and it's quite the same as pr. The forums are quite high pa, but it's not related to the page or thread he post link or coment right? I mean Domain authority doesn't affect the page authority, does it?
        Yes I was talking about the 7 day refundable.

        Domain Authority helps PA, yes. I mean, check any Youtube videos, they have at least a PA of 40 even the one recently posted - it's because Youtube DA is close to 100.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mr Lim
    You first need to check the competition level of the keyword, and it's not from adwords.

    If that's a new keyword, then I wouldn't be bother to create a backlink on it, because I'm unique and I will eventually rank #1.
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