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How do you find contact details when doing link out reach

by nik0 Banned
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Say I want to reach 100 people in my niche.

Any (semi) automatic way to gather 100 emails from those sites?

When I use Scrapebox whois scraper I only get like a 10% success rate.

You really go manually over each site?

My VA took 7 hours to get contact details from 30 sites, that includes their Facebook, Twitter, Google+ accounts and sending them emails and if nothing was find contacting them through their contact form on the website which takes way too long imo.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

    My VA took 7 hours to get contact details from 30 sites, that includes their Facebook, Twitter, Google+ accounts and sending them emails and if nothing was find contacting them through their contact form on the website which takes way too long imo.
    That's a lot of work/research & sending out emails.

    If you want it done right you'll do it manually otherwise you'll probably end up with wrong data.

    Don't cheap out for this outreach stuff, it's not about volume, it's about quality. I guess your VA knows what he's doing.

    Hopefully your not doing this for an Amazon site, I imagine that would get mostly rejections.
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      That's a lot of work/research & sending out emails.

      If you want it done right you'll do it manually otherwise you'll probably end up with wrong data.

      Don't cheap out for this outreach stuff, it's not about volume, it's about quality. I guess your VA knows what he's doing.

      Hopefully your not doing this for an Amazon site, I imagine that would get mostly rejections.
      7 hours? I seriously consider firing him from this job lol.

      It's for my SEO site btw and in the future hopefully for clients if we can cut down in time.
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      • Profile picture of the author online only
        Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

        7 hours? I seriously consider firing him from this job lol.

        It's for my SEO site btw and in the future hopefully for clients if we can cut down in time.
        If you have the right person, finding out 100 e-mails and sending out 100 semi-personalized emails can take no more than 2hours.

        For finding e-mails, there are several tools:

        http://buzzstream.com
        http://whois.com
        http://linksy.me/find-email
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        • Profile picture of the author nik0
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          Still have to try out Buzzstream yes, not so fond about linksy.me though.

          I just did a quick test with Scrapebox.

          Scrape the first 200 results for 4 keywords so 800 websites in total.

          Trim to root and remove duplicate domains.

          Instead of using the whois addon I chose the email grabber.

          Result: 157 unique email addresses in about 10 minutes.

          Only downside is to connect the email address to the website, but that can be done once responses are received to not waste time on people that don't respond.
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          • Profile picture of the author online only
            Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

            Only downside is to connect the email address to the website, but that can be done once responses are received to not waste time on people that don't respond.
            I would say manual FTW.

            In that way you can find super-relevant emails that are connected with the person(s) who are actually creating content on this/that site. If you use scrapebox to collect emails, there are high chances that some of them belong to X people who are not even involved with updating/managing the site itself.
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  • Profile picture of the author linkassistant
    nik0, have you ever tried our LinkAssistant tool (it's for desktop)?
    What it does is it
    - analyzes link partners,
    - looks for emails (you can instruct the tool to use "info" before the @ if no email address is found for a site if you choose)
    - let's you email from the tool itself
    - check if the link has been placed
    - email the person by clicking on the link, etc.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      niko,

      The only way to really do it right is to do it manually. You should visit the site to see if it is a site you really want a link from. Scrapebox is not going to tell you that.

      When you contact them, you want to make sure you are contacting the right person. Scrapebox (or any automated tool) can pull emails from blog comments sometimes or an email for a technical support department rather than the owner or sales department, etc.

      I visit the sites, check WhoIs, and if I find nothing from there, I use a contact form. If they have a phone number, I pick up the phone and call them.
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      • Profile picture of the author nik0
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        Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

        niko,

        The only way to really do it right is to do it manually. You should visit the site to see if it is a site you really want a link from. Scrapebox is not going to tell you that.

        When you contact them, you want to make sure you are contacting the right person. Scrapebox (or any automated tool) can pull emails from blog comments sometimes or an email for a technical support department rather than the owner or sales department, etc.

        I visit the sites, check WhoIs, and if I find nothing from there, I use a contact form. If they have a phone number, I pick up the phone and call them.
        I quickly give it a pagerank check as well. It's for the expert round up strategy.

        Also I quickly filter out the sites that don't seem relevant to me as there are always some blogspots / tumblrs / microsoft and that kind of things showing up when scraping.

        You're right about not catching the right person most of the time but right now my VA took 7 hours to gather 30 emails and 5 responses. I must be able to do better then that as I want to do it within a one month $129 budget and I also must make profit of course and build some other links in case "the experts" don't link back to the round up post.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
    Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

    Say I want to reach 100 people in my niche.

    Any (semi) automatic way to gather 100 emails from those sites?

    When I use Scrapebox whois scraper I only get like a 10% success rate.

    You really go manually over each site?

    My VA took 7 hours to get contact details from 30 sites, that includes their Facebook, Twitter, Google+ accounts and sending them emails and if nothing was find contacting them through their contact form on the website which takes way too long imo.
    Have you tried some search strings like

    site:linkedin.com intext:"SEO" "Owner" "CEO"

    I would try avoid whois DB, half of those emails used for registering sites would be unanswered, spammed to death, whois protected, or not even active.

    edit: just looked at that search string myself and it seems pretty good. You can also expand your list by looking at their profile visits, seems to be a lot of other SEO in those lists too. Also their connections seem to be loaded with SEO companies also.
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Originally Posted by Kevin Maguire View Post

      Have you tried some search strings like

      site:linkedin.com intext:"SEO" "Owner" "CEO"

      I would try avoid whois DB, half of those emails used for registering sites would be unanswered, spammed to death, whois protected, or not even active.

      edit: just looked at that search string myself and it seems pretty good. You can also expand your list by looking at their profile visits, seems to be a lot of other SEO in those lists too. Also their connections seem to be loaded with SEO companies also.
      Good one, just modified it to:

      site:linkedin.com intext:"SEO" "Owner" "CEO" inurl:.com/in/

      To make sure it only results in profiles.

      Will upgrade to a premium account to be able to contact them directly and see how it works out.

      Not much success with the whois data indeed, most have it hidden.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    If I was your VA I would tell you to do it your d@mn self, If your not happy about the amount of time invested. Stop being a cheapo & spend some of that BIG money, lol.

    Researching 100 sites, multiple social accounts, & sending out emails that are half way impressive would be very time consuming.

    If you want real data, you at least have to double check any scraped data is legit otherwise your just wasting your time.
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      If I was your VA I would tell you to do it your d@mn self, If your not happy about the amount of time invested. Stop being a cheapo & spend some of that BIG money, lol.

      Researching 100 sites, multiple social accounts, & sending out emails that are half way impressive would be very time consuming.

      If you want real data, you at least have to double check any scraped data is legit otherwise your just wasting your time.
      For sure I ain't gonna do it myself, I just replace him with someone who either owns faster internet or who can work more efficient.

      Scraped data can be checked easily with half an eye and it's not a huge problem if some emails end up in mail boxes of non relevant sites. After all it's for an expert round up and once the contributions are in we can double check to make sure the advice comes from a legit site and not some one trying to pull a prank cause we wrongly emailed them.

      It's also less time consuming to gather social data from the sites that didn't respond then to gather it from all of them right away.

      As you know I work with small budgets so I have to cut corners here and there.
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