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worldwide seo strictness

by monere
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Hi,

has anyone tested whether the google changes and penalties and stuff apply the same worldwide or just in the USA?

Given that the competition is fierce for USA traffic in all profitable niches, I was wondering if Google is a bit more flexible to other countries when it comes to SEO. Like for example not monitoring link velocity, diversity, relevance, or whatever for languages/dialects like swahili, polish, danish, bengali, serbian, etc.

Cause if their algo is not so strict and up to date in all other countries I don't see why I shouldn't target that traffic instead of the "always impossible for beginners to rank for USA keywords" traffic

I could (and will) eventually test this myself but at the moment I don't have the necessary resources to do it. Hence my asking here...

So, is anyone in here who tested this and doesn't have a big ego to keep the secrets for themselves and are willing to share them?

TIA!
#seo #strictness #worldwide
  • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
    There is a very good reason why targeting and ranking outside of the US is easier and less competitive.

    Nobody cares about it,
    They're mostly just tyre kickers
    Spending no monies
    Got no monies
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    • Profile picture of the author monere
      You may be right, or you may not be right that non-US traffic doesn't have and/or spend money easily, but that's not what I needed to know anyway

      I only wanted to know if the same strict rules of SEO apply outside of the US as well, or if we can still rank websites easily in competitive niches just by spamming backlinks, spamming anchor text, a.s.o.

      Originally Posted by Kevin Maguire View Post

      There is a very good reason why targeting and ranking outside of the US is easier and less competitive.

      Nobody cares about it,
      They're mostly just tyre kickers
      Spending no monies
      Got no monies
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      • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
        Originally Posted by monere View Post

        You may be right, or you may not be right that non-US traffic doesn't have and/or spend money easily, but that's not what I needed to know anyway

        I only wanted to know if the same strict rules of SEO apply outside of the US as well, or if we can still rank websites easily in competitive niches just by spamming backlinks, spamming anchor text, a.s.o.
        Quality links will always win out over spam so...same end result. Most of those SERPs require little to no links to rank within, to begin with. So yes probably whacking software links at it, would give "the impression" that its still working or even "less policed".

        Google covers a core 40 languages so yeah, there's no way they will ever get everything. They know that. But what they can do well, is cover the languages that create the most traffic and the most results. They can also implement their algo too. Which looks for patterns more then it does read the language of the text.
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        • Profile picture of the author alerrandre
          Good luck thinking that US(english) is the only profitable country when talking about internet marketing.

          What is traffic ? People right ?

          People have the same problem in US or any other country, fat, heathy issues, etc....

          Dosen't matter what language you are doing SEO, you can always sell products in english

          If US was the only country with money, them why this country would be in crisis ?
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          • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
            Originally Posted by alerrandre View Post

            Good luck thinking that US(english) is the only profitable country when talking about internet marketing.

            What is traffic ? People right ?

            People have the same problem in US or any other country, fat, heathy issues, etc....

            Dosen't matter what language you are doing SEO, you can always sell products in english

            If US was the only country with money, them why this country would be in crisis ?
            It's a little more then just having money. There is also a cultural element, and their relationship with consumerism. The US is the largest market for it, the US has the highest numbers of sales profit in so many areas. Consumer confidence in shopping online is very high, compared to other countries. Decades ahead of most countries.

            Your nationalist sentiment, doesn't hold water against the cold numbers.

            edit: I'm not American btw. And don't live there either.
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            • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
              Originally Posted by Kevin Maguire View Post

              It's a little more then just having money. There is also a cultural element, and their relationship with consumerism. The US is the largest market for it, the US has the highest numbers of sales profit in so many areas. Consumer confidence in shopping online is very high, compared to other countries. Decades ahead of most countries.
              That's only a part of the reason, but I agree with you on the culture part. US is fiercely competitive and everything is taken to the extreme when it comes to marketing and selling.

              On the other hand (broken) English is the lingua franca of the internet, and it's used as the official language in US, UK, Canada and former British colonies. If you compare that to Finland (my home country) we've got about as many inhabitants as the neighboring Russian city of St. Petersburg (including suburbs). Of course the search engine landscape is different when there's so few users and the language is completely distinct.

              I'm ranking #1 Google SERP for several WordPress-related phrases, and even in mid top 100 for "wordpress". I'd not have snowball's change in hell if I was trying with that content in English.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    It's probably easy picking but very low volume buyer traffic. Look at the country economy/demographics, some of those things you've listed people are either rich or dirt poor, not much middle class. So the money would most likely be in luxury items for few people or necessities for everyone.
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    • Profile picture of the author monere
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      It's probably easy picking but very low volume buyer traffic. Look at the country economy/demographics, some of those things you've listed people are either rich or dirt poor, not much middle class. So the money would most likely be in luxury items for few people or necessities for everyone.
      That's what I thought too, up until a year ago or so. But then I took myself as example. I've bought products and services online worth of over $5000 probably (in the last 5-6 years) and I live in a third world country of Europe. And if I spend money online so easily why wouldn't others from even richer countries in Europe (like France, Germany, etc)?

      So, I think you could be wrong about being mostly 2 types of people (either rich, or poor). I think the middle class is pretty numerous than the other 2, at least when compared to US. Anyway, thanks for the tip
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      • Profile picture of the author alerrandre
        Hello Monere, I have websites in english and other languages and countries, and I'm 100% sure that google apply their filter for all the web dosen't matter if it is africa or china, english or mandarim.
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        • Profile picture of the author monere
          OK! That doesn't sound good, but.... I always say "better a harsh truth than a sweet lie"

          Originally Posted by alerrandre View Post

          Hello Monere, I have websites in english and other languages and countries, and I'm 100% sure that google apply their filter for all the web dosen't matter if it is africa or china, english or mandarim.
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  • Profile picture of the author monere
    Interesting points of view. They still didn't answer my questions (or I didn't know how to read between the lines, which, if I know myself is very possible lol) but anyway, interesting replies
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    • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
      Originally Posted by monere View Post

      Interesting points of view. They still didn't answer my questions (or I didn't know how to read between the lines, which, if I know myself is very possible lol) but anyway, interesting replies

      Some parts of the web, are still very "wild west" for backlinks. It's made as fast as they catch it.
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      • Profile picture of the author monere
        Originally Posted by Kevin Maguire View Post

        Some parts of the web, are still very "wild west" for backlinks. It's made as fast as they catch it.
        Yeah, I think so myself. I just don't know which those "wild west" regions are

        Never mind anyway... I'll test myself which old school SEO still works and where... when I have time and money to test this....
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  • Profile picture of the author anoopsparx
    Google SEO rule is same for all country but in PPC there is some differences means few products/gambling are not allowed in US completely.
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