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Help with SEO - A very big challenge!

by premiumhunter
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Hi folks,

I'm Ollie and I have created a website called Premium Hunter. I have worked in the Life Insurance industry for years and after being made redundant I decided to go it alone.

Initially I looked for people to build the site for me and do the SEO but there weren't any takers (not with my limited budget), they all said it's impossible to get to page 1 with the keywords I would be using.

I didn't listen and I built what I think is a good looking website, but I am struggling with the SEO. I've followed SEO guides to the best of my ability but I am not making too much progress.

Is there anyone out there with any tips (quiting isn't a tip ) or advice or should I use someone on fiverr?

Help would be most appreciated.

Thanks
#big #challenge #seo
  • Profile picture of the author apeee
    Originally Posted by premiumhunter View Post

    I've followed SEO guides to the best of my ability but I am not making too much progress.
    Which guides are you referring to? Could you please enlighten us?

    If you are using old-time tricks to rank fast in serps, then that's not going to work in 2014.
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    • Profile picture of the author premiumhunter
      Hi, i've been looking at Paul J Cline on you tube and 'quicksprout' free emails and tips. Also basic stuff like wikihow and whatever else i can find etc.

      i'm a real novice but don't want to use something dodgy and then get 'Google slapped'.

      What are your best tips or suggestions?
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      • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
        Originally Posted by premiumhunter View Post

        Hi, i've been looking at Paul J Cline on you tube and 'quicksprout' free emails and tips. Also basic stuff like wikihow and whatever else i can find etc.

        i'm a real novice but don't want to use something dodgy and then get 'Google slapped'.

        What are your best tips or suggestions?
        If you have been looking on Quicksprut you missed out on all you should need for a DIY SEO job.

        How to Create an Expert Roundup Blog Post

        DO NOT BUY ANY SERVICE FROM THIS FORUM OR ANY OTHER

        They don't have the links or skills to assist you. And if they did, like you said in your OP. You can't afford the services, so don't think that others can offer you a poor mans option. Your just going to waste your time and money, not to mention your site.

        All the links that you need are right there in your head, in your email address book and on your phone. All your old industry colleagues and contacts.

        Reach out to them, make new ones. And expand your existing network of industry contacts to apply an outreach set up. Expert roundups is a good way to start in my mind.
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        • Profile picture of the author nik0
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          Originally Posted by Kevin Maguire View Post

          They don't have the links or skills to assist you. And if they did, like you said in your OP. You can't afford the services, so don't think that others can offer you a poor mans option.
          I ranked quite a few sites for life insurance related keywords in the UK.

          I have to admit that most already had pretty decent back link profiles so I just took care of that extra push to the 1st page (they used to rank at page 2-3 before).

          Being in possession of a pretty strong finance related PR6 domain (now dropped to PR5) with tons of links from governments probably helped as well.
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          • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
            Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

            I ranked quite a few sites for life insurance related keywords in the UK.

            I have to admit that most already had pretty decent back link profiles so I just took care of that extra push to the 1st page (they used to rank at page 2-3 before).

            Being in possession of a pretty strong finance related PR6 domain (now dropped to PR5) with tons of links from governments probably helped as well.
            Being a true Blackhat myself, I am not saying building a PBN to rank for keywords won't work.

            But when a clear expert in a field "insurance" swings by and asks me what his best approach should be to link building. I'm never going to push anything remotely BlackHat onto him or his business, before every Whitehat option has been exhausted.

            No matter how well any linkbuilder sets up his networks to rank sites and stay under the Google radar. There will always be inherent risks involved for the long term future of a site using such tactics. It's just wrong of anyone to suggest that approach as a starting point to anyone, especially to someone who would see themselves as an expert within the industry they are trying to rank for.

            Probably why I get such high paying clients, is the fact I don't blow smoke up there ass selling them things they really don't need. Just give them solid advice on how to use what they already have in a better way.

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            • Profile picture of the author nik0
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              Originally Posted by Kevin Maguire View Post

              Probably why I get such high paying clients, is the fact I don't blow smoke up there ass selling them things they really don't need. Just give them solid advice on how to use what they already have in a better way.
              Yeah you're a real expert when you have to lead them to someone else.
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              • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
                Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

                Yeah you're a real expert when you have to lead them to someone else.
                Ever hear of a "Consulting Fee" ?

                And just for the record. Anyone who has ever pm'ed me on this forum looking for a "good SEO" but they had a low budget. I've always referred them to you.

                So don't get your knickers in a twist about it.
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                • Profile picture of the author nik0
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                  Originally Posted by Kevin Maguire View Post

                  Ever hear of a "Consulting Fee" ?

                  And just for the record. Anyone who has ever pm'ed me on this forum looking for a "good SEO" but they had a low budget. I've always referred them to you.

                  So don't get your knickers in a twist about it.
                  Lol yeah right, if you can find something to criticize about me you won't leave it and at the same time recommend me to people.

                  Makes a lot of sense

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                  • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
                    Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

                    Lol yeah right, if you can find something to criticize about me you won't leave it and at the same time recommend me to people.

                    Makes a lot of sense
                    Actually the honest truth is, that I got called away when I was making my first reply. And you replied in the meantime. It was just collateral damage, sorry.
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          • Profile picture of the author premiumhunter
            Thanks for the input guys, it's all helpful.

            My budget isn't £0 but I was going to use it for PPC and then do the SEO manually. Like I mentioned originally, i am new to this.

            hipeopo02 - It's not a white label

            Kevin - thanks for the info and heads up

            nik0 - Although i'm new to the world of SEO, I would still like to think it's something you can do without throwing buckets of money at it - maybe i'm naive. Time is something is something i'm willing to give.

            patadeperro - Again I am going to try to do this and invest a lot of time. I know I don't have the backlinks, but over time hopefully this will improve!
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Nguyen
    Ollie, avoid the SEO route for now. I have a site similar to yourself and I think I know who you've connected with. You need to go down the PPC route if you want quick results. The SEO is for the long term once the PPC is generating. Speak to your headmaster
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    • Profile picture of the author premiumhunter
      Hi Michael,

      I'm based in the UK also and the PPC is at £50-80 per click during peak times for my keywords! I will be using PPC but not that often!

      The viable option is cracking the SEO. I'm willing to take the long road, as it will be worth it long term as you will know. I just need a bit of help and some pointers etc
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      • Profile picture of the author Michael Nguyen
        Originally Posted by premiumhunter View Post

        Hi Michael,

        I'm based in the UK also and the PPC is at £50-80 per click during peak times for my keywords! I will be using PPC but not that often!

        The viable option is cracking the SEO. I'm willing to take the long road, as it will be worth it long term as you will know. I just need a bit of help and some pointers etc
        In that case start slow and expect a long journey to page 1 rankings. Essentially you're going to need good links and LOTS of them. Avoid the cheap backlink services. Find high PR sites with a ton of referring domains, related to your niche and build your backlink count from there: Google this

        business blogs "write for us"
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        • Profile picture of the author premiumhunter
          I'll do that. Thanks for the help
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          • Profile picture of the author nik0
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            Of course you struggle with the SEO, that's what everyone warned you about by saying that it's not possible with a limited budget!

            You will have to publish a ton of great content and outreach to 1000's of webmasters in the hope they share it / link to it, quite time consuming and time = money.

            The other option is to build a large network of high PR domains (no idea which keywords you're targeting) which is again very expensive.

            What I don't like about your blog is that it's not structured with some sort of navigation and based on experience I have the idea Google doesn't like it that much either.
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  • Profile picture of the author patadeperro
    Your first problem is a marketing problem, how are you going to compete in a market where they have super budgets? if you are not willing to invest the same amount than them how are you going to compete? did you think that SEO because its "free traffic" it meaned that you dont need "resources"? second problem:

    Résultats de Site Explorer - Récapitulatif - Majestic SEO

    No matter what keywords you are targeting you dont have enought quality backlinks.
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  • Profile picture of the author hipeopo02
    looks like a white label site.
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    2 cent of mine: Write good content, share it.

    Invest most of your time in Content writing, comparatively less on Link Building.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve Waller
    No life insurance keyword is going to be easy no matter how long tail you go but that's not to say it's impossible.

    Forget about the big generic terms full stop. You will never rank for them. But if you can find particular long tail terms where other small sites appear to be ranking then you've always got a chance of pulling in a few leads a month.
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  • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
    There's comments about link building, and it's probably going to be hard. Just see that your h1s and titles communicate something you want. Front and about page have useless h1 contents at least.
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    Links in signature will not help your SEO. Not on this site, and not on any other forum.
    Who told me this? An ex Google web spam engineer.

    What's your excuse?
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