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SEO on WP and HTML

by hostking
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Hi guys,

I have good skills on HTML, CSS and a little PHP knowledge.

I however would like to know seeing as I'm getting a professional company to design our website over in Wordpress.

Should I go with plain HTML or Wordpress. I know this gets asked over time and time again but as I have HTML knowledge and can change website content easily. Should I rather go with HTML over Wordpress for Google Rankings?

Or stick with Wordpress as it's easier to manage? Or does google just not care anymore
#html #seo
  • Profile picture of the author anoopsparx
    Wordpress sites are easy to manage and update. But if you are html expert so i suggest you make your website in Html.
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    • Profile picture of the author paulgl
      Originally Posted by anoopsparx View Post

      Wordpress sites are easy to manage and update. But if you are html expert so i suggest you make your website in Html.
      WP uses html.....

      I can't believe that a true pro would even consider such a garbage CMS as
      WP.

      Come on people. Get real here.

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      • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
        Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

        I can't believe that a true pro would even consider such a garbage CMS as WP.

        Come on people. Get real here.
        And I can't believe that a pro would make that kind of a comment. It's not that important which tool you happen to use as long as it's good enough and gets the job done.

        This particular piece of garbage is running some very popular sites without any issues. If you compare it to others in the same category (small-scale PHP CMSes) it fares quite well. If you're above that level, well... It'd be your job to notice that and adjust accordingly.

        Point out any problem you have with WordPress, and it's fairly likely I'd agree with you. (Or told you that you're just doing it wrong.) But I don't like these blanket statements. Guys who say this usually have either not touched the system in years, or are just being ignorant for fun and profit. Or both.
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    • Profile picture of the author patco
      Originally Posted by anoopsparx View Post

      Wordpress sites are easy to manage and update. But if you are html expert so i suggest you make your website in Html.
      Lol... I would say better do it with PHP/MySQL, Javascript, etc... HTML won't be a functional site...
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      • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
        CMS will output HTML, and Google will read that HTML. WordPress has no magical SEO powers, it's just a system that creates HTML based on the rules it's programmed with. What's so hard to understand in this concept?

        The purpose of a content management system is to make it easier to update the contents (duh!). Especially handy if you have more than dozen pages.

        HTML is just fine in many cases. OP talks about customizability. You can make ad hoc changes to the structure of any random page, but that might just lead to weird structures and bad user experience. Choosing plain HTML because of some supposed SEO benefits is not a very good justification as has been pointed out in the thread. The "for us" part, however, is something that I do see as a good rationale.

        Originally Posted by patco View Post

        Lol... I would say better do it with PHP/MySQL, Javascript, etc... HTML won't be a functional site...
        HTML (plus a touch of CSS) is the only thing you need to make a functional site. It might not be dynamic, but your average web page is pretty static.
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  • Profile picture of the author trevord92
    Google's never cared what platform the site is built on.

    You can do SEO with an HTML site or a Wordpress site. They're still just code as far as the search engine robots are concerned.

    It depends what you want to do and how you want to do it.

    HTML can be "lighter" in code than Wordpress if it's done correctly.

    Wordpress can be easier to do things with - it's usually just a matter of finding a plugin that does what you want.

    Which is a long way of saying "Up to you!"
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  • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
    If you can always take the time to update the pages, or if they don't need to be updated, it really doesn't matter what you're using. If there's a change that someone else might need to update the pages you need a CMS.

    However, well-made CMS-based site pushes you and the site to the right direction. You shouldn't waste your time minding the nuances of HTML, but the planning and designing content, and taking care of the factors that really matter for SEO. Editing your own HTML has very few real benefits.
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  • Profile picture of the author MathewJonns
    Wordpress is good option. You can use Yoast Plugin for SEO in wordpress. It's easy to manage and update.
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  • Profile picture of the author azhar
    Yes, you are right, Google do not care, in which platform you build website, but your website should be Search engine friendly. html and wordpress both are the good options...
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    If you seriously know HTML, CSS, PHP you should already know that's exactly what's happening in WP themes.
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  • Profile picture of the author MillionDollarBucks
    CMS has numerous advantages that should not be left alone.Besides you have HTML knowledge which is an added plus point in the context of customizing wordpress.
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    • Profile picture of the author pravinlpatel
      WordPress comes ready for search engines and you can maximize it's feature using plugin like Yost...
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  • Profile picture of the author tigermannan
    If you know and have skills in HTML i would prefer you to develop manually on HTML. In my experience google prefers unique programing and scripts rather then copying the same template on wordpress again and again. This is my personal judgment not a rule.
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  • Profile picture of the author r0dvan
    If you know PHP just learn a framework like Laravel, Zend or Symfony.
    Its really easy to code stuff like wordpress and you have everything under your own control.
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    • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
      Originally Posted by tigermannan

      In my experience google prefers unique programing and scripts rather then copying the same template on wordpress again and again. This is my personal judgment not a rule.
      Can you find one reliable source to support that? Yeah, I didn't think so.

      That comment implies the assumption that Google's indexing is run by simpletons who don't know the most common CMS and the ecosystem around it. Which is very much centered around sharing, selling, copying, licensing, and ultimately using the same damn themes and plugins over and over again.

      Originally Posted by r0dvan View Post

      If you know PHP just learn a framework like Laravel, Zend or Symfony.
      Its really easy to code stuff like wordpress and you have everything under your own control.
      No, it's not easy to code something like WordPress. Even if you happen to be seasoned veteran PHP developer it would some time to whip out even a rudimentary system without all the bells and whistles. And then there's the fact that your own system doesn't get any better unless you take the time to improve it.

      If you can take a hobby, or make a business around building a CMS, then go ahead. But very likely not a good fit for some random user asking help on a random internet forum.
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  • Profile picture of the author hostking
    We decided to go with HTML as we feel it's more customizable for us and better for SEO in our opinion (based on our experience)
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    • Profile picture of the author yukon
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      Originally Posted by hostking View Post

      We decided to go with HTML as we feel it's more customizable for us and better for SEO in our opinion (based on our experience)
      I find it hard to believe someone that claims they know HTML, CSS, PHP doesn't know a CMS is HTML in the end (what Google is looking at).
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  • Profile picture of the author mbah owl
    You would be better off if you focus you mastered HTML, WP is designed so easy in the case of a plugin, but it's not a problem with the HTML you can develop better. I do not mind whether it Wp or HTML, but certainly you must Seo Friendly HTML with search engines.
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  • Profile picture of the author kazim
    Wordpress is better than HTML for SEO. And you can get many plugin for better google ranking.
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    • Profile picture of the author trevord92
      Originally Posted by kazim View Post

      Wordpress is better than HTML for SEO. And you can get many plugin for better google ranking.
      Wordpress is no different from HTML for SEO.

      They both use exactly the same on page syntax - headers, images, etc. - and they both rely on the content of the page plus the linking structure (internal and external) to tell Google about the page.

      There are SEO plugins for Wordpress but they only assist you to get things right, they don't (can't) get you a better Google ranking just by running a plugin.
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  • Profile picture of the author vikash_kumar
    Do not even hear the words against WordPress!
    It is an amazing software, When you know what it can do for you. You have an added advantage of knowing php, CSS & HTML....This is what WordPress uses in an organised manner.

    I am sure after a while using this amazing CMS, you will never go anywhere else. Just learn every part of this CMS and I will recommend you to start of Security aspects of WordPress which i feel is only vulnerability people see when it comes to using this CMS. Here as well, I can tell you with my experience that you can do many things to secure your Site with WordPress in an effective manner very easily.
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