How many pages of quality content are needed?

by Ghoster 29 replies
I know the answer will vary depending on niche (right?) but is there any general critical mass figure?

I've heard a site needs around 50 pages of high quality content to start to pull in lots of clicks. Does this sound right?

By "high quality" I mean unique content that is well-written and provides value to a user.

Thanks.
#search engine optimization #content #needed #pages #quality
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  • Profile picture of the author wesley00
    i think your question is little bit confusing, you should elaborate it, like which type of site you want. because a small website does not contains as many pages as you are talking. but whatever you need really very good quality content and should be unique which can help other to get some good and useful information.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ghoster
    Thanks for your reply.

    A site with professional design and extremely high quality content covering a popular and profitable niche. Primary source of revenue will be AdSense as far as I know right now. Not crazy about promoting products in this niche as it's time consuming to make sure they are quality and I don't want to just rip people off.

    Question is how many "money" articles/posts do I need before I should expect to see some results. I'm not terribly worried about SEO, I will be relying heavily on social media and guest blogging. Google ranking will be great when it happens but I won't do anything terribly special to make it happen.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by Ghoster View Post

      Question is how many "money" articles/posts do I need before I should expect to see some results. I'm not terribly worried about SEO, I will be relying heavily on social media and guest blogging. Google ranking will be great when it happens but I won't do anything terribly special to make it happen.
      If you are relying on social media and guest blogging, you need one page. If it answers the question or problem the visitors have, that's all you need. If there are a lot of other topics about the issue that requires more pages, then create more pages.

      There is no magic number here. It's not like you will make no money when you have 9 pages, but the moment you hit 10, the money just starts flowing in.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
    How many pages of quality content are needed?
    If your talking about SEO the answer is zero high quality pages considering no search engine measures the quality of content. They check relevancy & typos but that's not necessarily quality as far as traffic is concerned.

    My point is a blank page can be ranked.
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    • Profile picture of the author hipeopo02
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      If your talking about SEO the answer is zero high quality pages considering no search engine measures the quality of content. They check relevancy & typos but that's not necessarily quality as far as traffic is concerned.

      My point is a blank page can be ranked.

      Volume helps with reach in G. My best site is my biggest as in thousands of posts. My site with a few hundred does ok but the biggest shows a noticeable income in traffic and earnings.


      Not SEO?
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    • Profile picture of the author Rebeccha Haase
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      My point is a blank page can be ranked.
      So, why people are always screaming for high quality content? :p
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      • Profile picture of the author terrec
        Originally Posted by Rebeccha Haase View Post

        So, why people are always screaming for high quality content? :p
        Yes you are right. I am with you.
        User will visit a page again and again if they found unique,interesting and helpful content.
        Blank page can't maintain its place for a long time.
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
        Originally Posted by Rebeccha Haase View Post

        So, why people are always screaming for high quality content? :p
        Traffic is the reason for quality content.

        When it comes to SEO a page with relevant gibberish would still rank in the SERPs.

        Example (below), a page with this text wouldn't have any problem ranking for auto insurance keywords, while it would be useless for traffic.



        Auto Insurance

        Vehicle insurance injury degree arise there from the resulting also known as auto insurance than traffic in each region. Vehicle and possibly damage may additionally offer GAP insurance motorcycles or motor insurance is financial.

        Trucks insurance protection insurance purchased for cars vary with legal. Collisions and against liability and other, car insurance a lesser the vehicle sustained road vehicles against theft primary use is to provide terms of against vehicle to financial. Protection physical damage and or bodily from traffic that could also specific from things other road.
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        • Profile picture of the author Steve Waller
          Originally Posted by yukon View Post

          My point is a blank page can be ranked.
          Yes it can but for how long I wonder. While Mr Cutts has denied that user signals are likely to creep into the algorithm, I never quite believe him. A blank page would likely have an almost instant bounce back to Google and at some point I can see potential for them to see this as a signal to demote the page.

          Originally Posted by yukon View Post

          Less text per page = focus * multiple relevant pages/links = multiple ranked pages per target keyword.

          Why rank 1 page per keyword when you can rank 2 or 3 pages per keyword?
          Good point again although would a longer more in-depth article attract more real, natural links over time thus making your job of ranking even easier?

          Originally Posted by hipeopo02 View Post

          Volume helps with reach in G. My best site is my biggest as in thousands of posts. My site with a few hundred does ok but the biggest shows a noticeable income in traffic and earnings.
          Out of interest do you take full advantage of internally linking your pages together? (I'm sure you do) This seems to me to be one of the biggest reasons for having more content/pages.
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          • Profile picture of the author yukon
            Originally Posted by Steve Waller View Post

            Good point again although would a longer more in-depth article attract more real, natural links over time thus making your job of ranking even easier?
            How much text does a person need while watching video, browsing for coupons, downloading files, shopping for plumber services, etc...?

            I don't know about anyone else but I'm not targeting scholar keywords & I get a large percentage of my sites links built by traffic. I also average 7 page views per unique traffic with an average of maybe a sentence of text across thousands of pages. Still ranking...

            There's a time & place for everything, fortunately the majority of niches I would care about don't need long drawn pages of text. Another good thing is Google doesn't care how much text is on a page.

            Even If I needed a lot of text, I would break that text up into smaller chunks spread out over multiple internal pages & create an internal network of relevant links to rank multiple pages per keyword. If there's traffic at SERP position #1, there's more traffic at SERP position #2-3.
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          • Profile picture of the author hipeopo02
            Originally Posted by Steve Waller View Post




            Out of interest do you take full advantage of internally linking your pages together? (I'm sure you do) This seems to me to be one of the biggest reasons for having more content/pages.
            I'll give WF cred for this one but yes since coming here and reading this forum I have started to do a lot more internally linking than previously and it seems to have positive effects.

            I don't know but it seems that you can pass link juice internally so if that's the case it should absolutely be done especially with big sites.
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            • Profile picture of the author mainak
              A single page is enough to get traffic.

              But page should contain unique content, professional design, interesting graphics and the most important; helpful to the user query.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
        Originally Posted by Rebeccha Haase View Post

        So, why people are always screaming for high quality content? :p
        Because most of the world got this a little twisted in their heads when they hear the word "content". They instantly presume that content=article, when it couldn't be any further from what is meant when you hear Cutts, Google or anyone else tell you, "create quality content" or "keep your content updated".

        What is content:

        Open up any webpage, right click on it and select "View Source". See all that mambo jahambo html, text, script..etc..etc on the page now. Well that's the content.

        Everything on that page is content.

        Keeping my content "updated" means keeping my content both relevant and current to "todays" searcher. Updating you content could be a simple as adding social share buttons, Making your theme responsive, adding a touchscreen "Call-Now" button.

        Creating "quality" content, is a simple way of telling you. Give the searcher what they are looking for, whether that's an answer to a short or long question, a video, a tutorial, a picture, a download link. If your page has given the searcher exactly what they where looking for from your page, you've just created and delivered "quality content".
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    All of them!
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  • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
    Good replies here. It also depends on competition. You may not need quality articles if the competition is weak.
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  • Profile picture of the author RickCopy
    more content = more long tails / more authority = more traffic. More is better imo.
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    • Profile picture of the author yukon
      Originally Posted by RickCopy View Post

      more content = more long tails / more authority = more traffic. More is better imo.
      Less text per page = focus * multiple relevant pages/links = multiple ranked pages per target keyword.

      Why rank 1 page per keyword when you can rank 2 or 3 pages per keyword?
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  • Profile picture of the author GyuMan82
    Like the others have said there is no "critical-mass" number.

    Of course in general the more quality content you have the better of your site will be, but there isn't a magic number.

    Just throw up some unique and grammatically correct content and get your link build / promotion on.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ghoster
    Thanks for this great info!
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  • Profile picture of the author Ghoster
    Sounds good, thanks. This is more or less optimizing for the Hummingbird update, no?
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    • Profile picture of the author jxam69
      Originally Posted by Ghoster View Post

      Sounds good, thanks. This is more or less optimizing for the Hummingbird update, no?
      You can't optimize for Hummingbird because it's not a ranking algorithm.

      It's an algo designed to help Google better understand natural language in search queries.

      It's particularly useful for long queries where Google needs to extract the intent or meaning of the queries and remove all the superfluous information, so it can then pass on a shorter, more accurate, query to the part of the system that then decides what to show in the results.

      For example a query like "i would like to buy a brown hat today online" is really just a query to buy a brown hat, that's what Hummingbird works out.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ghoster
    Yep, sounds right. Thanks a lot. This is along the lines of what I was thinking. My niche is Forex—which of course is saturated—but I'm an expert in the field and I'm tired of writing about it for others.

    There's a ton of misinformation out there and a crap load of shady products to boot. Should be interesting to see if I can cut through.

    Hummingbird is the latest version of Google's engine. It's not an update like Penguin or Panda, it's an entirely new animal. It still contains those two updates but it places less emphasis on individual keywords and more on longtail phrases.

    It also rewards sites that cover one topic in great detail across of lots of pages of unique content.
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  • Profile picture of the author wildamir
    one time i was saw a website which in just 20 pages add and publish and its to have a lot of backlinks .. that site quality was very well and site owner doing work just on nursing keywords and his sale our that website at flippa site to with 40K $ and before the sold out that site owner was publish 50 articles more in that website then give to other person and i think that man earn at a month 6K $ easily at a month ..
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  • Profile picture of the author Ghoster
    Thanks for the info
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  • Profile picture of the author DPM70
    I'm still all for long tails. Traffic seems to bolt exponentially when you add content around your initial niche and keywords. When you start to rank easily for many thousands of longtails the idea of competing with the idiots for the bigger terms becomes obsolete.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ghoster
    Great discussion, guys.
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  • Profile picture of the author patco
    Originally Posted by Ghoster View Post

    I know the answer will vary depending on niche (right?) but is there any general critical mass figure?

    I've heard a site needs around 50 pages of high quality content to start to pull in lots of clicks. Does this sound right?

    By "high quality" I mean unique content that is well-written and provides value to a user.

    Thanks.
    NO! This is NOT true... Otherwise we would ALL write 50 quality articles, post them and WAIT for the magic... It's not that way, we should work hard, do SEO, marketing... The clicks will come in the long run!
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    A perfect example of what Kevin is saying...

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    Great content.
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  • Profile picture of the author yoangov
    Once again... your question is not correct.

    There are some small websites that target only 1 or 2 keywords, and are very specific. These websites only need 2 to 4 articles.

    An authority site, however, would need 1 (max 2) articles for each targeted keyword.
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