How do i link from your PBN?

by rompe
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Hello Warriors,

How do i link from my PBN?

I have my own PBN and i want to link my personal money sites.

The question is: where do i put links to money sites?
1. sidebar
2. posts

If i want to link domain, is ok to put backlinks in sidebar and backlinks for another urls from that domain in posts?

Thanks for any answer!
#backlinks #link #pbn
  • Profile picture of the author Steve Waller
    If most of the backlinks to your PBN sites are pointing towards the homepage then that's where you want your links.

    Some people write one long article for the homepage in which to add their links and this is my preferred method.

    If you create additional posts with links back to your money sites then the benefit you get is lower since the juice has to flow one more step.

    How many pages are you intending to add to each network site?

    The only reason I can see to add links in the sidebar is if you are linking out to lots of unrelated money sites and you cannot write one article to accommodate all of them without it seeming forced.
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    • Profile picture of the author rompe
      Thanks Steve,

      Originally Posted by Steve Waller View Post

      How many pages are you intending to add to each network site?
      Frequently add fresh content to my PBN, two or tree post a week.
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      • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
        Originally Posted by rompe View Post

        Frequently add fresh content to my PBN, two or tree post a week.
        That is a waste. There is no reason to add new content to a network type site.
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        • Profile picture of the author chris_87
          Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

          That is a waste. There is no reason to add new content to a network type site.
          Hey Mike, do you think adding content might be important from a future proofing perspective for google aglos? Adding content to the network site look like a "legitimate site", instead of the 2013 WP basic theme and stuff that screams network, maybe put a little more work into it to make it look legitimate (e.g adding content, graphics etc.).
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          • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
            I don't think adding content will have anything to do with it.

            There are tons of legitimate, quality sites out there which have not been updated in years.
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            • Profile picture of the author chris_87
              Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

              I don't think adding content will have anything to do with it.

              There are tons of legitimate, quality sites out there which have not been updated in years.
              Thanks Mike. Do you think moving forward Google will start looking at the type of links that are built to the PBN blog sites? For example if you bought an expired domain that was previously about tourism. You buy the site, re-theme it, and are now using this for your PBN to link out to your finance industry based money sites. Perhaps G in the future will look at the type of links that were previously built to your PBN, in this case it used to be about tourism and as such is not relevant, so they might discredit the links in future algo updates.

              Do you think G is heading towards doing that in the future?

              Thanks again for your feedback
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              • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
                There are tons of legitimate reasons that domains change hands and topics for.

                They could do something like that in the future if they wanted to though.

                I really do not think they need to get anywhere near that complicated to start hunting down networks though. Most stick out like sore thumbs. Just buy any WSO here that is offering links on a network and take a look at the sites. They are awful and extremely easy to identify.

                Most networks like that are selling to so many customers that there is tons of overlap on their sites. All you have to do is get one, and you can unravel the whole thing in a few minutes.
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                • Profile picture of the author chris_87
                  Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

                  Most networks like that are selling to so many customers that there is tons of overlap on their sites. All you have to do is get one, and you can unravel the whole thing in a few minutes.
                  Thanks again Mike, excellent feedback.

                  I suppose then if you keep the PBN private, for yourself only, re-theme it, remove obvious foot prints (get unique IPs etc), and keep the content surrounding your links relevant you should be sailing safe for awhile to come then?
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                  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
                    Originally Posted by chris_87 View Post

                    Thanks again Mike, excellent feedback.

                    I suppose then if you keep the PBN private, for yourself only, re-theme it, remove obvious foot prints (get unique IPs etc), and keep the content surrounding your links relevant you should be sailing safe for awhile to come then?
                    Yep. If the network is truly private and full of legit websites that could stand on their own, you should be fine.

                    Stay away from public networks unless you are just using them for churn and burn.
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                    • Profile picture of the author chris_87
                      Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

                      Yep. If the network is truly private and full of legit websites that could stand on their own, you should be fine.

                      Stay away from public networks unless you are just using them for churn and burn.
                      Just curious here, but what is your definition of "legitimate website". Something more than a 2 page thin content affiliate page im assuming?
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                      • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
                        Originally Posted by chris_87 View Post

                        Just curious here, but what is your definition of "legitimate website". Something more than a 2 page thin content affiliate page im assuming?
                        Meaning just like any other website you might find in the niche. There should be no difference between it any other good site covering the same topics.
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                        • Profile picture of the author chris_87
                          Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

                          Meaning just like any other website you might find in the niche. There should be no difference between it any other good site covering the same topics.
                          Thanks again Mike, last question and I will stop bothering you. But for a single blog within a PBN how many times can you link to a specific money website from a single PBN. I have read before you shouldn't link out from a single PBN blog with a post to a specific money site more than once, not sure how much legitimacy the source has.

                          Whats your recommendation?

                          For example
                          PBN blog A
                          PBN blog B
                          PBN blog C

                          Each one links to moneysite.com no more than once. Basically asking if each blog on a PBN can only link to the moneysite once. So, if there are 10 blogs in the PBN with 10 posts each (100 blogs in total), then each blog can only link once (1 out of 10 posts) for a total of 10 links across the PBN?
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                          • Profile picture of the author Steve Waller
                            Originally Posted by chris_87 View Post

                            Thanks again Mike, last question and I will stop bothering you. But for a single blog within a PBN how many times can you link to a specific money website from a single PBN. I have read before you shouldn't link out from a single PBN blog with a post to a specific money site more than once, not sure how much legitimacy the source has.

                            Whats your recommendation?

                            For example
                            PBN blog A
                            PBN blog B
                            PBN blog C

                            Each one links to moneysite.com no more than once. Basically asking if each blog on a PBN can only link to the moneysite once. So, if there are 10 blogs in the PBN with 10 posts each (100 blogs in total), then each blog can only link once (1 out of 10 posts) for a total of 10 links across the PBN?
                            It depends. Are you talking about two links to the same page on your money site per PBN site or 2 different pages on your money site (say the homepage and an inner page)?

                            To be honest, I tend to just stick to one link per PBN site but other methods are no doubt effective too.

                            There is no single answer, just lots of people with their own opinions. I personally do things my way and no doubt Mike and anyone else has their own take on what's best.

                            My main thought when building a PBN is footprints (and not leaving any!)
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                            • Profile picture of the author jinx1221
                              Originally Posted by Steve Waller View Post

                              My main thought when building a PBN is footprints (and not leaving any!)
                              I personally think that only one link out on a site is a footprint. What sites only link out to only one site? With only one page? I would at least put up several pages and link out to other sites not your own (wikipedia, etc), that would help the sites legitimacy and make it not so obvious it is a PBN should it ever get discovered in the future. Just my thoughts
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                              • Profile picture of the author Steve Waller
                                Originally Posted by jinx1221 View Post

                                I personally think that only one link out on a site is a footprint. What sites only link out to only one site? With only one page? I would at least put up several pages and link out to other sites not your own (wikipedia, etc), that would help the sites legitimacy and make it not so obvious it is a PBN should it ever get discovered in the future. Just my thoughts

                                Oh I create more than 1 page and I link out more than once but not to multiple money sites that might then build up an unwanted association. Instead I'll link out to other genuine blogs in my niche, news stories about my niche, international organisations in my niche, etc.

                                The other pages I create also have on-topic links that a reader might find useful (should anyone ever read it).
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                            • Profile picture of the author chris_87
                              Originally Posted by Steve Waller View Post

                              It depends. Are you talking about two links to the same page on your money site per PBN site or 2 different pages on your money site (say the homepage and an inner page)?

                              To be honest, I tend to just stick to one link per PBN site but other methods are no doubt effective too.

                              There is no single answer, just lots of people with their own opinions. I personally do things my way and no doubt Mike and anyone else has their own take on what's best.

                              My main thought when building a PBN is footprints (and not leaving any!)
                              It would be having multiple posts on the same PBN blog linking out to the same money site, which as you said you would personally not do.

                              Is there a particular reason you do this? Does having multiple posts from the same PBN blog site to the same money site leave a bigger foot print? Or are you more concerned from a link juice perspective?
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                              • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
                                Originally Posted by chris_87 View Post

                                It would be having multiple posts on the same PBN blog linking out to the same money site, which as you said you would personally not do.

                                Is there a particular reason you do this?
                                Simple. Too freaking obvious.
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                              • Profile picture of the author Steve Waller
                                Originally Posted by chris_87 View Post

                                It would be having multiple posts on the same PBN blog linking out to the same money site, which as you said you would personally not do.

                                Is there a particular reason you do this? Does having multiple posts from the same PBN blog site to the same money site leave a bigger foot print? Or are you more concerned from a link juice perspective?
                                While it is not uncommon for some big sites to link to some other site multiple times on different pages (happens in news all the time), for the purposes of blog networks, I just a) don't see the real benefit of it and b) think it adds an unnecessary element of risk.
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            • Profile picture of the author rompe
              Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

              I don't think adding content will have anything to do with it.

              There are tons of legitimate, quality sites out there which have not been updated in years.
              Thanks Mike,

              I agree with you
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  • Profile picture of the author jacpacdh
    Simply Too freaking obvious.
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    • Profile picture of the author mainak
      I will suggest you to link your homepage from sidebar and other pages from post content. i.e. hyperlinking.
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  • Profile picture of the author michealcarne
    If you are going to add link in your content so it will be better to make your post sticky at home page.
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