Does making few web 2.0 pages hurt SEO nowadays?

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Filipsa

Does making few web 2.0 pages hurt SEO nowdays?

I would like to write few articles 500-1000 words and put few "natural" links to home page and deep pages - "here", "this site" and "website" and 1-2 money keywords.

No never if you make backlinks which are related to your niche there is no chance that it will be bad impact on your website ...
So you should make them but try to make them on related niche only...

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Filipsa

10 years ago

Thank fivercraze
I was thinking on creating few pages related to my business.

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Dr los3

10 years ago

If it was that simple.

Don't make the web 2.0s on the same IP, If you're going to make 5 sites, from the same user (you) its like making a link wheel toyourself, if it was this simple everyone would do it.

You must make them from different ips/accounts

So technically it isn't you linking back to yourself, its Jim Stew from Aussie, talking about you in his blog linking to your site. This is the correct way to do it.

If you just make a bunch of web 2.0s i BELIEVE this is the incorrect way and you must do it anonymously but if someone has more knowledge then i, please chime in.

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MYFREEIM

10 years ago

Dr los3 is absolutely correct - you'll need different IP addresses to do what you are suggesting.

However, if you want to use articles as a way way to link back to your site for SEO purposes, then submit your articles to other, quality websites (blogs or article sites), that are related to the topic and add links back to your main site within those articles.

If your articles are any good, you'll gain exposure to entirely new set of visitors, and gain a few quality backlinks at the same time. Linking to from your own page to some of your other own pages will not hurt your SEO, but it won't improve it either.

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Dr los3 10 years ago

^ Totally right with that one. That would be considered "guest blog posting"

Keep it niche relevant or you will hurt yourself. Difficult to find someone who wants your content though (well people who matter) if its a $5 article it wont do much, must give value to the guy as well. But thats a different story!

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jinx1221

10 years ago

Originally Posted by MYFREEIM

Dr los3 is absolutely correct - you'll need different IP addresses to do what you are suggesting.

No Dr los3 is not absolutely correct.. only the web20 owners would know what IP addresses you signed up with or posted with. People use different IP's (proxies) when signing up to these so you can create multiple accounts on them as some wont allow multiple accounts by the same person. Thats all.

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Kevin Maguire

10 years ago

Originally Posted by jinx1221

No Dr los3 is not absolutely correct.. only the web20 owners would know what IP addresses you signed up with or posted with. People use different IP's (proxies) when signing up to these so you can create multiple accounts on them as some wont allow multiple accounts by the same person. Thats all.

This thread must have been moved from the main (haven't a clue) forum.

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godoveryou 10 years ago

Originally Posted by Kevin Maguire

This thread must have been moved from the main (haven't a clue) forum.

Ha! Now that's some funny truth right there.
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Filipsa 10 years ago

Originally Posted by Kevin Maguire

This thread must have been moved from the main (haven't a clue) forum.

Can You explain why?
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Justin Tyme

10 years ago

The best way to do this would to be to create unique content for each web 2.0 property you plan to create.

Also don't create them all on one host. There are a TON of high quality web 2.0 properties available now adays.

The best thing to do would be to create some unique content and spread it to the 5 -20 web 2.0s with no link at first. Then after the posts are moderated you can go back and drop your link. Remember though the key here is quality! You do not want to simply spam the same article across the different web 2.0 properties.

Then you can build backlinks to the web 2.0 properties and use them as "buffer" sites to keep your money sites backlink profile squeaky clean.

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affilorama-portal

10 years ago

No it does not hurt and in fact I am still using Web 2.0 sites to build content and linkback to my money site. However, I will not do any linkwheel if you are planning to do that for web 2.0 sites.

These days, linkwheels are no longer effective and it can affect your site badly- specifically for promoting unnatural baclinking. If you want to build links for your site using web 2.0s, just ONLY point the link to your site. DO NOT link to any other web 2.0 sites because this is obviously (and nor considered) as unnatural backlinking.

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Steve Waller

10 years ago

From what I've heard from speaking to other members privately, Web 2.0s still work IF you are prepared to really put some effort in with good quality unique content, multimedia, multiple pages on each blog you make.

I'm not saying it's the best source of backlinks in the world but if your budget doesn't stretch to much else then you could do worse.

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by Steve Waller

From what I've heard from speaking to other members privately, Web 2.0s still work IF you are prepared to really put some effort in with good quality unique content, multimedia, multiple pages on each blog you make.

I'm not saying it's the best source of backlinks in the world but if your budget doesn't stretch to much else then you could do worse.

Yup. The problem is that in order to be effective each web 2.0 needs many pages of unique content. Might as well spend all that time and effort writing more posts/articles for your money site.

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Webkingseo

10 years ago

No , Creating quality web2.0 with unique content will never hurt your website but it should be done with good quality and unique content + you should use a lot of diversification in terms of anchor text(Should use a good combination of LSI , main keywords and cloud keywords and URL) and IP addresses ( you should not make bulk web2.0 from same IP ) .

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jmccormack

10 years ago

How might one creat different web 2.0's with a different IP?

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Webkingseo

10 years ago

Just use a good clean proxy system (VPN) to create web2.0 from different IP .

Originally Posted by jmccormack

How might one creat different web 2.0's with a different IP?

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Oranges

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Webkingseo

Just use a good clean proxy system (VPN) to create web2.0 from different IP .

How does Google know that the Web 2.0 properties are made from different IPs?
Using different IPs for web 2.0 doesn't make sense because only the web 2.0 website's owner has the IP logs data, not Google.

The whole theory is irrelevant.

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Webkingseo

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Oranges

How does Google know that the Web 2.0 properties are made from different IPs?
Using different IPs for web 2.0 doesn't make sense because only the web 2.0 website's owner has the IP logs data, not Google.

The whole theory is irrelevant.

Google knows it or not nobody knows

but the theory is If you build any backlinks using different IP will look more natural , IF you will make backlinks from a single IP address and if in case Google can check the IP then your backlinks will look like a promotional event just to manipulate the google rankings .

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Oranges

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Webkingseo

Google knows it or not nobody knows

but the theory is If you build any backlinks using different IP will look more natural , IF you will make backlinks from a single IP address and if in case Google can check the IP then your backlinks will look like a promotional event just to manipulate the google rankings .

WTF? Where did you learn that? Some snake oil SEO course?

Check this out pothead....if you are the owner of a web 2.0 site, and i create 15 blogs or pages on it from the same IP....how would Google know my IP address?

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Webkingseo

10 years ago

First of all is this the way you discuss things t .. And let me tell you i am not guessing things , I have tried and tested methods over last 3 years and analyse results .

Last year i use to make backlinks just from same IP address it was working fine but from last few months it was giving less results , Then i started all my camping's using VPN and it is doing way much better then before and i am getting very good results .
I have ranked many websites over last few years and i have learned my SEO by getting results .

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Originally Posted by Oranges

WTF? Where did you learn that? Some snake oil SEO course?

Check this out pothead....if you are the owner of a web 2.0 site, and i create 15 blogs or pages on it from the same IP....how would Google know my IP address?

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Oranges

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Webkingseo

First of all is this the way you discuss things t .. And let me tell you i am not guessing things , I have tried and tested methods over last 3 years and analyse results .

Last year i use to make backlinks just from same IP address it was working fine but from last few months it was giving less results , Then i started all my camping's using VPN and it is doing way much better then before and i am getting very good results .
I have ranked many websites over last few years and i have learned my SEO by getting results .

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Star using different computers, MAC Addresses, Routers, Internet Cable, LAN Card, and even change the workplace every time you create a new Web 2.0 site. You never know Matt Cutts might be watching you from the window using Google Maps street view.

I'm done. Good luck to your customers.

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rahmanpaidar

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Webkingseo

First of all is this the way you discuss things t .. And let me tell you i am not guessing things , I have tried and tested methods over last 3 years and analyse results .

Last year i use to make backlinks just from same IP address it was working fine but from last few months it was giving less results , Then i started all my camping's using VPN and it is doing way much better then before and i am getting very good results .
I have ranked many websites over last few years and i have learned my SEO by getting results .

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You are misguiding people by wrong conclusion.
Let me first assure you that there is no such thing as client IP address
checking in Search Engine, not no such thing but also no possiblity to do it.

You got the better results by using VPN just because of the fact that
your backlinks get lower probability to get removed and flagged as
spam by administrator of the sites you are getting links. This is nothing to do
with Google and Search Engines.

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Kevin Maguire

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Oranges

WTF? Where did you learn that? Some snake oil SEO course?

Check this out pothead....if you are the owner of a web 2.0 site, and i create 15 blogs or pages on it from the same IP....how would Google know my IP address?

Didn't you hear the News !!!

Googles just installed the Eye of Mordor.

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poojaseo

10 years ago

If you want to create backlink then you can post in the niche directory or article,it will not effect the bad impact in the website.

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waheedahamd

10 years ago

how can i change my IP?

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GyuMan82

10 years ago

Web 2.0s still work if the content is decent and you are posting on some good sites.

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koubain

10 years ago

I suggest you build web 2.0 properties but don't send links to the money site but send them to second tier for your backlinks strategy

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dids

10 years ago

Lets clear some things up here.

Unless its a google product such as blogger, Google doesn't know the IP address that created the blog. If they did they would have to be integrated into the sites backend system to do this(please don't use recaptcha as a example that's not how it works).

Also remember google uses a bot to crawl webpages (googlebot). if googlebot was able to see ip address of created web pages, then this information would be visible to anyone who looked at the source code of the webpage.

Op answering your original question creating web 2.0s will not get you a penalty spamming web 2.0s with poor spun content possibly will.

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10 years ago

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Kevin Maguire

10 years ago

Originally Posted by waheedahamd

how IP works? I mean if i create web 2.0 site a/c with waheedahmad@gmail.com from my home internet IP, then i create 2nd web 2.0 site a/c from my home internet IP, then it will consider same IP? and then I create 3rd Web 2.0 site a/c from office internet IP through same gmail a/c waheedahmad@gmail.com, then it will consider same IP of home internet IP and office? Coz i am using 1 gmail account at both place home and in office?

As explained to you a few times above.

Then don't use Gmail. Try one of the 1000 other email providers.

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yukon

Banned 10 years ago

When your done playing, don't forget to build some real links.

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godoveryou 10 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

When your done playing, don't forget to build some real links.

Very true as well.

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Web 2.0's can be great if you know what you are doing. I run a wordpress blog as a supplement to virtually any other project I'm working on, and sure, the SEO of the links might help - but that's not the only or real reason I do it.

- With Wordpress there are certain tags that rank extremely well. I have one project that gets over 100 unique visitors a day (to the main site) coming through a wordpress tag page. 100 visitors won't make me rich, but the traffic is targeted and converts. So for my a wordpress.com blog isn't about links, it's about traffic.

- Same thing with other web 2.0's. For instance, Squidoo. It's 'nofollow' meaning the links have virtually no SEO value in and of themselves, but once you learn how to participate in the community and rank your lens you can squeeze a lot of traffic of out these properties as well.

- Blogger. Blogger really isn't a great source for community engagement and traffic, but it can rank well and pulls in traffic through the SERP's, much like the WP.com blogs. Again though, this isn't about some crappy little link from a blogspot.com blog - it's about traffic.

If you think that all you will need to do it build some web 2.0's and call it a day, it's important to think about what Yukon said and build some real links! At the end of the day, unless you've got a proven-tested method for getting traffic out of these web 2.0 sites then you will get much more benefit from a few well-placed, high PR links on real sites with their own following.
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Kevin Maguire

10 years ago

Originally Posted by waheedahamd

Kevin Maguire,
i didn't understand due to weak of english.

Gmail کا استعمال نہ کریں

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yukon

Banned 10 years ago

Originally Posted by waheedahamd

sorry dear, i don't know it that its not allowd here so i am going to delete my gmail a/c, u delete ur comment too in which you reply me, but would you like to tell me the disadvantage of it if anyone use gmail a/c account here so that i will understand the reason. Thanks

Apparently you haven't heard that Google owns Gmail & keeps a history of everything that happens with that Gmail account.

BTW, build some real links when your ready to rank a page.

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Filipsa

10 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

Apparently you haven't heard that Google owns Gmail & keeps a history of everything that happens with that Gmail account.

BTW, build some real links when your ready to rank a page.

Hi Yukon
Im trying to ger answer to this question for long time.

How is it possible that site is out ranking my and my competition websites (and some of them do a really good seo work) and that site has all links coming from:
banner links from non related websites
websites made only for music streming - radio stations with poor or no content at all

He is submiting those websites to radio station directories and that way getting link juice and then link everything to money site.

Answer I got is:
If i continue doing seo by the rules - or white seo - call it what ever you like I will be safe and end up better then that website, problem is that website is 1 year at top 3 of google first page.

So much about real links...

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sirtiman

10 years ago

You must find a way how to talk with your audience, not just get backlinks. I prefer to talk with other blogger and asking guest post or post exchange.

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nettiapina

10 years ago

This thread is so full of win. First the expression "making few web 2.0 pages". Making a few pages with user collaboration and user generated content? Why are you using that stupid and overly broad marketing term when you could just simply use words that carry a meaning? Then the "SEO" guys who don't seem to know the basics about web publishing and technology.

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SarmistaAun

10 years ago

Web2.0 still remain an effective way to generate backlinks only if you post unique and relevant content. But don't post on the same site otherwise it will be considered as spam.

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seamy82

10 years ago

Some serious amount of sniping going on here. If they have good content, web2.0s work for low competition keywords. 99% of these web2.0s are legitimate blogs, the other 1% are Google gamers. It might even be less than that.

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extremeboy

10 years ago

simply make quality content with images and video.

Maintain those Web2.0s by adding more content.

Spread them on Social media continuously like you does for your Business site.

Make sure to use Private proxies for managing all stuff

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Daones

10 years ago

I agree, if you make a web 2.0 site on the same ip address it doesnt mean anything. Google cant see who is creating the content and publishing it. The only ip address Google will get is related to the host of the domain where the web 2.0 is placed. The only time this might be any other case is if you are using blogger.com since its owned by Google.

If someone wants to explain exactly how changing your ip address would help and explain how google can retrieve the ip address of someone creating the web 2.0 feel free to enlighten us. Unless the web2.0 provider has some plugin to pass on the ip address to Google webspam team when content is created I think thats the only way.

As far as being useful here are some tips, use quality content and include images if possible when making the web2s... dont use multiple links to the same domain and use one random link to any other website so it looks more natural. You can also take it a step further and add new content a week or so after the first piece.

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by Filipsa

Does making few web 2.0 pages hurt SEO nowdays?

I would like to write few articles 500-1000 words and put few "natural" links to home page and deep pages - "here", "this site" and "website" and 1-2 money keywords.

Backlinks from Web 2.0 sites, when built correctly, can really help to increase your site's rankings in the SERPs. Remember to use unique content and different IP addresses. The links should be dofollow.

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B Ranker

7 years ago

No, they won't hurt your SEO, those are backlinks to your money site.

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