Why Won't Google Penalize My Site?

by RedShifted

Posted: 10 years ago 22 replies

This is 1 of the stupidest questions I'll ever ask. But there's a legitimate story behind it and I'm genuinely curious why this site isn't getting penalized.

I started an experimental local site 9 months ago and put it on its own hosting account.

At the time, I wasn't sure what I was thinking. But it was something along the lines of "I'm fed up with all these zoo animals, and I'm going to do SEO the worst way possible just to see what happens".

The "experiment" was to spam the hell out of a local site. I wrote 7 pages for the site, a privacy page, about us, and 5 other pages. So its the thinnest site I've ever made in my life.

What I did was set up a 5 tier campaign in GSA. I used tons of LSI keywords, 1 terribly spun article, and have been churning out thousands of links every month for the last 9 months.

I monitor the site on a daily basis, and I'm extremely shocked by how stable, consistent and strong the site is now ranking. Its never really danced at all. It crawled up to page 3, then 2, and today a bunch of keywords shot up to #3 and 4 on page 1.

The sites link profile is a complete and utter spam fest. Its got like 14,000 links on its tier 1 and over 160,000 on its tier 5. Yet it has better pr, domain authority, citation flow and trust flow than any other site I own. Which is very weird. Because I have another site that ranks #1 in the same niche and its pr, da, etc are terrible.

But my question is pretty simple. How is it that through all these updates in the last 9 months, Google hasn't done anything but reward this spam fest?

My keywords only keep ranking better and better by the month.

And I was 100% sure it would have tanked like 6 months ago... but its not budging.

Since the site is now generating traffic, calls & sales, I'm pretty confused about whats going on.

Do you think it just "slipped through the cracks"? Or does the site have to hit #1 and outrank my other site before Google starts paying attention?

None of the backlinks are relevant, its boldy obvious that all the links are automated, yet it doesn't dance, it doesn't drop, it just slowly continues to climb higher and higher... and it seems to defy all the laws of Google physics.

I almost want the site to tank. Its pissing me off. Cause I've had sites with less than 100 links get penalized, in the same exact niche. I know Google is random but this is as random as random gets.

-RS

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Clint Butler 10 years ago

There are quite a few case studies out there showing the exact same results. I would venture to say that you just found a domain that Google's systems happen to love and is just ranking it away.

If you want to see if the rankings will tank, quit building backlinks to it and see what happens.
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promo87 Banned 10 years ago

Well, that just seems weird I remember I tried and tried and tired but ranking keep decreasing down day by day unless I have started to clean up my profile one by one :confused: Well, can you share its link I'd would to have a look on it
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GyuMan82 10 years ago

Your site hasn't tanked because Google isn't perfect.

People make these "If X, Then Y" arguments as if Google works perfectly, and by now you should realize this not to be the case. Google is "pretty good", but it's not "perfect".

Every update some spam sites slip through the cracks, while some "legit" sites get burned.

I am sure if you created 100 sites in the same fashion many/most would probably have tanked by now.

However again Google isn't perfect, and there may be some factors unbeknownst to you that allows your site to continue to maintain its ranking.

Also on a side note, often "local SEO" results tend to dodge these updates as I believe this is more just a matter of the lack of competition for the given query. Even though your site may be super spammy, it still may be more or less among the best results for that term.

Contrast this to a medium-high competition search query where there may be hundreds or thousands of better webpages for it making surviving such an update much more unlikely.
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linkassistant 10 years ago

This reminds me of how the road police sometimes stop cars that go suspiciously slowly, but don't stop those they can't chase
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- nik0 Banned 10 years ago
  
  Try 100k blog comments in tier 1 and tell us what happened
  
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  yukon Banned 10 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by nik0
  
  Try 100k blog comments in tier 1 and tell us what happened
  
  Why would anyone need 100K links to rank a page?
  
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  godoveryou 10 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by yukon
  
  Why would anyone need 100K links to rank a page?
  
  In some niches, it's not an option assuming you want to make money and not have a purely informational based site.
  
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  nik0 Banned 10 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by yukon
  
  Why would anyone need 100K links to rank a page?
  
  He said he did everything to get his site penalized, I give him an alternative.
  
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  yukon Banned 10 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by godoveryou
  
  In some niches, it's not an option assuming you want to make money and not have a purely informational based site.
  
  If your talking about 100K followed PR links fine but that's not usually happening in link blast, especially such a huge amount of links in a single blast. Most of those would be PRn/a, nofollow fluff.
  
  Originally Posted by nik0
  
  He said he did everything to get his site penalized, I give him an alternative.
  
  Again, such a huge blast would be useless links (PRn/a, nofollow) that would only cause a month long dance. If OP had any good links his site would eventually settle down in the SERPs & rank.
  
  I've got a few competition in a new niche I'm targeting with 100% spammy link profiles, they're all ranking #1 for target keywords.
  
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JSProjects 10 years ago

I've got a few sites that are ranking well with a crapload of terrible backlinks. Just not in super-competitive niches.

I think some people tend to over-analyze every single Google update and are terrified of creating backlinks. In reality, we're all breaking the Google TOS. So why not go all in?

I don't do this with every site, of course.
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James- 10 years ago

Funny how sites differ, i had a site with just 5 links ranking #1 before it tanked due to the fact linking domains were spammed themselves.
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godoveryou

10 years ago

If your talking about 100K followed PR links fine but that's not usually happening in link blast, especially such a huge amount of links in a single blast. Most of those would be PRn/a, nofollow fluff.

For the record - 100k being a 'blast' is a point of view. When I have servers that build over 15,000 links per minute per single machine - 100k links takes less than 10 minutes and hardly constitutes a blast by my point of view. You can refer to that high ranking, highly competitive site you were referred to a few days back via PM. It has 10's of millions of such PR N/A, nofollow fluff pointing at it, one way or another.

That having been said, I'm not trying to force my point of view on you. Quite honestly, there's a lot of things you do much better than I and I'm curious about them.

This just happens to be one area that I have a lot of experience in. Linkspam is where I made a name for myself after all.

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paulgl 10 years ago

Because google, contrary to popular belief, does not work that.

The word penalty is just tossed around so much here, that people
who won't believe in Santa Claus, believe in the boogie man.

The internet is full of horrible sites with horrible practices.
Google is not the internet police, nor do they strive to be.

What's the most gag-related thread here? The ones that start...
My site won't rank now, must be a penalty. How can I get over it?

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yukon

Banned 10 years ago

Originally Posted by godoveryou

Lol, at the screenshot, why? How many proxies did that take?

I replied back to that PM asking If that was your site & you never answered, I figured that was a No.

While that was an impressive rank position for such a competitive keyword, the same site is currently deindexed. That PM you sent me is 6 days old, I have no idea how long the page was ranked before the PM.

I see yet another redirect... Lol at the panda, is that a mockery of Google?

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RedShifted

10 years ago

Originally Posted by godoveryou

Thanks for the hilarious post.

I just tested it myself and couldn't stop laughing when your name popped up.

I just got my first server a week ago, so you are right, what I can do it 1 month probably takes you 1 minute to do.

But I am slowly learning the ropes (slowly).

-RS

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godoveryou 10 years ago

It took an exhaustive number of proxies.

Pay attention to that keyword. You should already be spotting the replacement on the rise.
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- yukon Banned 10 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by godoveryou
  
  It took an exhaustive number of proxies.
  
  Pay attention to that keyword. You should already be spotting the replacement on the rise.
  
  How long are you holding the ranked position, days, weeks, months? How long was the last domain ranked before you started the new domain?
  
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- Kevin Maguire 10 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by godoveryou
  
  It took an exhaustive number of proxies.
  
  Pay attention to that keyword. You should already be spotting the replacement on the rise.
  
  I know only one other person who could show pride in that.
  
  Ah shit too funny. :p
  
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boxoun 10 years ago

Because google sucks other wise they wouldn't resort to scare tactics. Think about it. My guess is a bunch of those spam links are being ignored but somehow you got enough randomness through to rank. With that said, you never know what will happen when penguin refreshes which is the crucial point when deciding whether the links you've built are bad.. IMO
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netanel23 10 years ago

You want a penalty you need to do different link building techniques.

The easiest way these days is to get as many link directory links as possible. I have a list of quite a few link directory networks that can trigger penalties. Most of which can be bought for $5 for submissions across the whole networks.

Get some links from those for your primary keywords and you'll get what you wished for.
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linkbuildr

10 years ago

If you do SEO at all, especially in the affiliate space, how is this news to anyone? Seriously? Spam links work like a charm, we all know this but some sites tank quicker than others.

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JSProjects

10 years ago

Originally Posted by linkbuildr

If you do SEO at all, especially in the affiliate space, how is this news to anyone? Seriously? Spam links work like a charm, we all know this but some sites tank quicker than others.

Stay out of the uber-competitive niches and you can rank for a long time.

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