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Private blog networks and SEO

by jenrlo
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From reading I have done recently it seems that private blog networks can be pretty useful with SEO.

The best way to go about this is it seems to buy domain names (maybe aged depending on expense) and set up hosting and a blog as per normal.

My questions is do web 2.0 sites play a part in this or should they just be looked at as added extras and not actually part of the blog network?

My feeling is that they would still add value but would be seen as secondary when compared with creating new sites.

I am interested in your opinion re this. Thank you.
#blog #networks #private #seo
  • Profile picture of the author vishwa
    Actually I don't think that private network blog and seo works parallel. Because Google recently penalizes some Private network blogs.
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    • Profile picture of the author yukon
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      Originally Posted by vishwa View Post

      Actually I don't think that private network blog and seo works parallel. Because Google recently penalizes some Private network blogs.
      There's nothing private about a public link network.
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  • Profile picture of the author jenrlo
    I was thinking more about creating my own private blog network rather than joining one as I know some of the big ones were hit hard by Google.
    I would be interested to hear if anyone is having success doing this.
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  • Profile picture of the author KenL
    Let's get this thread back on track and address your question. Web 2.0 sites are not a requirement of a network. Build backlinks to your web 2.0s and if you can get them to rank in the top 100 then your target site can get a serp boost from them. They can also be used to add anchor variety. That's how I use them. Although, I have seen people ranking their sites with nothing but links from PBN's.
    Originally Posted by jenrlo View Post


    My questions is do web 2.0 sites play a part in this or should they just be looked at as added extras and not actually part of the blog network?

    My feeling is that they would still add value but would be seen as secondary when compared with creating new sites.

    I am interested in your opinion re this. Thank you.
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  • Profile picture of the author G.O.A.T
    From what I have seen its 50/50. If it's a large authority site you're building, I wouldn't risk it. Google usually catches up and then all your efforts would go to waste
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  • Profile picture of the author Varz
    Originally Posted by jenrlo View Post

    My questions is do web 2.0 sites play a part in this or should they just be looked at as added extras and not actually part of the blog network?
    If you want to use web 2.0 sites, you can link to web 2.0 sites from your PBN and then link to your money site from your web 2.0 sites.

    That said, most people just link straight to their money site from their PBN.

    As long as you make sure your PBN sites:
    - don't all use the same CMS
    - don't all look/feel the same
    - aren't hosted on an SEO host or at the same hosting company
    - don't all link to the exact same sites
    - have domain privacy enabled

    it should be hard for Google to find your PBN.
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  • Profile picture of the author SEOArbiterJoanne
    Originally Posted by jenrlo View Post

    My questions is do web 2.0 sites play a part in this or should they just be looked at as added extras and not actually part of the blog network?
    Not necessarily but it can be if you want. There is a service called RankWyz which basically allows you to create a complete network using web 2.0 sites if that's what you're looking for.
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  • Profile picture of the author jenrlo
    Thanks everyone

    I like the idea of using the web 2.0 sites to link to the PBN.

    I would have different hosting, keep domain info private and watch linking so not all links going to the same site.

    I guess it's just another version of tiered linking in the end.
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    • Profile picture of the author DiggitySEO
      Originally Posted by jenrlo View Post

      Thanks everyone

      I like the idea of using the web 2.0 sites to link to the PBN.

      I would have different hosting, keep domain info private and watch linking so not all links going to the same site.

      I guess it's just another version of tiered linking in the end.
      You have it backwards. If you're going to use web 2.0, then you can link the PBN to it, not the web 2.0 sites to the PBN. It's personal preference, but I typically don't link like this:

      1) PBN_Site_A > Web 2 > Money
      2) PBN_Site_A > Money

      Too much of a foot print for me. Sometimes when a PBN is getting de-valued (losing backlinks), I'll remove the link to the money site and then point it at a web 2.0. But I won't ever link to both a Web 2 and a money site.

      Web 2.0s are good for sending non-critical anchors to your site (brand, url, etc). They're also great for front page domination, as they rank as well.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
        Originally Posted by DiggitySEO View Post

        You have it backwards. They're also great for front page domination, as they rank as well.
        Sorry but why would ranking someone else's webpage (Web2.0) be classed as dominating a SERP? Are you not giving 9 spots away to another site thats built to funnel away "your traffic" to their own offers and advertisements. Is that not why such sites are set up in the first place?

        Seems weird putting all that effort and expense into ranking a page, and then to be a complete cheapskate when it comes to buying a domain and paying for a little hosting.

        I think you might be the one who has it backwards.
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  • Profile picture of the author promo87
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    Originally Posted by jenrlo View Post

    From reading I have done recently it seems that private blog networks can be pretty useful with SEO.

    The best way to go about this is it seems to buy domain names (maybe aged depending on expense) and set up hosting and a blog as per normal.

    My questions is do web 2.0 sites play a part in this or should they just be looked at as added extras and not actually part of the blog network?

    My feeling is that they would still add value but would be seen as secondary when compared with creating new sites.

    I am interested in your opinion re this. Thank you.
    Well, May I ask you how you can say private blog network seemed useful ??? After all I think you haven't read the post in the searchengineland that state Google has take down PostJoint i.e. Private Blog Network. :confused:
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by promo87 View Post

      Well, May I ask you how you can say private blog network seemed useful ??? After all I think you haven't read the post in the searchengineland that state Google has take down PostJoint i.e. Private Blog Network. :confused:
      PostJoint was not a private network.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by promo87 View Post

      Well, May I ask you how you can say private blog network seemed useful ??? After all I think you haven't read the post in the searchengineland that state Google has take down PostJoint i.e. Private Blog Network. :confused:

      Google probably loves these distortions. Why not just go all the way? Postjoint is a website so websites are no longer useful
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  • Profile picture of the author inetguru_987
    I would first start by purchasing expired domains, putting high quality content on them and linking them back to your money site. Don't put any other links on it and keep it 100% to yourself.

    You will drastically improve your rankings if you do it right.
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  • Profile picture of the author Hogan Chua
    If you build your own private network of sites, and only use it for yourself then its pretty safe. Just make network of sites you have as real as possible, and keep things random.

    For example
    1. Don't use same plugins
    2. Don't use same theme
    3. Host each of them separately on individual hosting accounts (you can find some for $2/m using coupons) -I normally get PR 3 + expired domains
    4. Don't interlink them in any way
    5. Continually update these private network blogs
    6. Make sure to do some external linking
    7. Use different Content Management System
    8. Unique/Revelant content

    In summary, use it for yourself and make it unique.

    It's more risky is you are buying from a provider since there are more footprints. I think this is one way to get really high value and relevant links. The otherway is to build relationships with popular other blogger/sites and do some guest posting. Which is a great long term strategy too, as it also generates good traffic for you if you did an awesome guest post

    And You should also use build manual Web 2.0's as part of your strategy to diversify your links. You can see how to here in the diagram of how I do mine for my clients.

    P.S You can also redirect pages/url with PR on them to your homepage for extra link juice when building your network.
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    • Profile picture of the author inetguru_987
      Originally Posted by creativeway View Post


      For example
      1. Don't use same plugins
      2. Don't use same theme
      3. Host each of them separately on individual hosting accounts (you can find some for $2/m using coupons) -I normally get PR 3 + expired domains
      4. Don't interlink them in any way
      5. Continually update these private network blogs
      6. Make sure to do some external linking
      7. Use different Content Management System
      8. Unique/Revelant content
      1. I always use all-in-one-seo, link juice keeper and better WP Security
      2. I rarely use the same theme
      3. I use SEO hosting. I tried to do it the other way but it is too much of a pain in the arsh. If you have a small network then it's fine. I have over 260 sites so this is not an option for me.
      4. I never interlink them.
      5. I don't feel like you need to update them at all if you don't want to. I have plenty of sites that I put up and I won't ever touch again.
      6. I do external linking sometimes but not all of the time.
      7. I only use WP. I don't know anything else and WP is too easy. Plus the World runs on WP so that's not a footprint in my opinion.
      8. I use super relevant content that is well written. I stopped spinning stuff a long time ago and will never use spun content again especially when you can get quality articles for $4.

      It's definitely a commitment especially if you are just starting out. I spend around $55 per website in my PBN to get it up and running with content (all outsourced). That doesn't include monthly hosting and annual renewal. That is a domain that has good metrics with regards to Trust/Citation and Authority. I don't care much about PR. I have spent a few hundred on a good domain in the past but I now have a better system in place to procure solid domains for a lot less money.
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      • Profile picture of the author Watch Store
        Originally Posted by inetguru_987 View Post

        It's definitely a commitment especially if you are just starting out. I spend around $55 per website in my PBN to get it up and running with content (all outsourced). That doesn't include monthly hosting and annual renewal. That is a domain that has good metrics with regards to Trust/Citation and Authority. I don't care much about PR. I have spent a few hundred on a good domain in the past but I now have a better system in place to procure solid domains for a lot less money.
        You said you spend $55 per pbn. What exactly do you do ? How much content do you add for that ?
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        • Profile picture of the author inetguru_987
          Originally Posted by Watch Store View Post

          You said you spend $55 per pbn. What exactly do you do ? How much content do you add for that ?
          I get 2 articles written and have my VA set it up. All of that cost me around $55 without the monthly hosting.

          Like I said I used to spend quite a bit more. $50 to $200 per domain, two to three articles and have my VA set it up. I would pay more per article because I would have a writer recreate the content from the original domain and then tie it into the niche I was promoting. This is a safer route to take if you have a niche that can tie into a lot of other niches.
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          • Profile picture of the author jenrlo
            Thank you for that information. I don't have a VA, maybe in the future. I can see a way forward with this now.

            It may take me a little longer but I can chip away and make a start and look for cheap hosting and domain names to save on some of the costs.
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