PR4 site value from SEO point

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Hello Friends,
I am having PR4 sites. (two) and PR3 sites. (Two).
All 4 are on Forex Niche. The sites are not having good link juice. Their own authority is very lower.
What will be value of a link on above these sites. If I want to sell article/link on them, what should I expect?
Thanks in advance.
Sam1234594
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  • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
    So you're saying that the sites have PR that doesn't match the backlink profile? I would need to see the sites myself, but that's a very bad initial sign. I'd probably pass.
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  • Profile picture of the author bussix
    Without looking at the backlink profile and metrics, it's hard to judge.

    I mean, it could potentially even hurt the site you're linking out to.

    In that case, pretty much worthless and I'd pass, too.
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  • Profile picture of the author sam1234594
    One of the site is, hxxp://cheminotcgtbfc.com
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    • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
      Originally Posted by sam1234594 View Post

      One of the site is, cheminotcgtbfc.com
      According to Majestic SEO that site has 14 backlinks from 2 domains. There's no way a previous site with that domain could ever have been PR4.

      Unfortunately the most likely explanation is toolbar PR manipulation via redirect. You can often spot this from archive.org, but it's down at the moment. It's not even worth the time it takes to create a backlink.
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      • Profile picture of the author sam1234594
        Its not fake PR for sure.
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        • Profile picture of the author danparks
          Originally Posted by sam1234594 View Post

          Its not fake PR for sure.
          Not sure why you're absolutely convinced the PR isn't fake. I don't know for sure, but it doesn't look good...

          archive.org shows that in Oct of 2013 the site was a basic, initial install of WordPress, with no content. So unless the site owner was making a valid, total change to his existing site, it looks like a new owner took over the site.

          ahrefs.com shows that the domain had 0 backlinks pointing to it, and a month later it had 17. Nothing there to support a Page Rank of PR4.

          Look at the site now. All the tabs in the top horizontal navigation bar go to different websites. Who sets up site navigation like that (besides someone selling links)? Look at the right sidebar, all the links to different sites. What's your overall impression of the site? To me it certainly looks like a site set up just to sell links.

          And what about the domain name, cheminotcgtbfc.com? I don't know French, but it certainly doesn't sound at like something that would be used for a forex site. Seems like someone grabbed a dropped domain without regard for the domain name, and set up the site.

          The PR4? Could easily be from a redirect in Oct or Nov of 2013, before the Google Toolbar PR update of Dec 2013.

          Seems like big pile of crap of a domain to me.
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        • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
          Originally Posted by sam1234594 View Post

          Its not fake PR for sure.
          So what's your explanation then? You need to be able to justify that statement, or we have to make the conclusion that takes the fewest assumptions. Ockham's razor, you know.

          Fake PR is mentioned on this forum every week. Real PR comes from backlinks. Toolbar PR (the one we outside Google see) is quite meaningless when it comes to the quality of a linking site.

          It's very unlikely that someone would be able to get rid of all the previous backlinks with a site that truly had PR4 on the front page at some point in history. And if someone really pulled it off, the site couldn't be considered PR4 any more no matter what the toolbar says.
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  • Profile picture of the author AzzamS
    You can not sell links on site based on PR alone anymore. You have to provide at the least Domain and Page authority. If you can provide Trust Flow and Citation Flow then it is a bonus.
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  • Profile picture of the author NShankar
    Now a days most of the people cross check the PR of your site with number of back links and MOZ authority. If you have bought an expired domain with PR and built a site over it and expecting to make money out of them, you need to ensure that the domain has reasonable number of existing back links to justify its PR and also reasonable page authority in opensiteexplorer.

    If the authority is less, you need to get good back links first to your site and improve its authority as well as make it look authentic for any one who is interested in buying links from you. Never use spun contents in your site. Write original quality contents, even if you are getting paid accept only original contents.

    Once you achieve these tasks, you will be able to get back your investments within 1 or 2 months and have a steady flow of income.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael_thegreat
    The price depends upon the niche that these links belong to..
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  • Profile picture of the author SEO Eddie
    It looks like a fairly poor quality domain to me after running it through Majesticseo. Can't imagine it will keep that PR if Google ever updates it again. I wouldn't want a link from it.

    So to answer the original question. unless the person you are trying to sell the link to doesn't know what they are doing, you won't be able to sell a link on that site for anything.

    Hopefully that saves you some time.
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  • Profile picture of the author mkgg
    Yeah right those are PR4 sites.

    My sites must be PR10 then if that is the kind of backlinks you need for PR4 because i got links, baby and tons of them.
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  • Profile picture of the author patco
    The PR is not so important... Good backlinks, good traffic and especially HIGH authority is the things to pay attention to!
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  • Profile picture of the author EdwardRocha
    I think you need to check the PA, DA and Alexa ranking of that sites too. Domain authority of a site affects a lot on your link juice and traffic.
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    • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
      Originally Posted by EdwardRocha View Post

      I think you need to check the PA, DA and Alexa ranking of that sites too. Domain authority of a site affects a lot on your link juice and traffic.
      Alexa ranking is irrelevant and misleading, but unfortunately they've got clout in marketing industry.

      Domain authority is also misleading to many marketers. It's sort of a total for the backlinks, but doesn't take the site structure in account. Google ranks pages, not domains. Many sites that seem to have high authority on their front pages or other major content are very selective when linking out from those pages. Thus the link juice doesn't "trickle down" to the sub pages under the same site.
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  • Profile picture of the author hirithk
    Hi
    PR 4 sites are very helpful, they will be having good quality links. Getting PR 3 only it is on the higher side. So PR 4 sites are really good and they give good back links to your website as well as these will be do follow links.
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  • Profile picture of the author xnice
    Originally Posted by sam1234594 View Post

    Hello Friends,
    I am having PR4 sites. (two) and PR3 sites. (Two).
    All 4 are on Forex Niche. The sites are not having good link juice. Their own authority is very lower.
    What will be value of a link on above these sites. If I want to sell article/link on them, what should I expect?
    Thanks in advance.
    Sam1234594
    The price of PR4 post = $5-$10, just make accounts on Fiver, SeoClerk and market it. Hope you will get big bucks soon.
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    • Profile picture of the author danparks
      Originally Posted by xnice View Post

      The price of PR4 post = $5-$10, just make accounts on Fiver, SeoClerk and market it. Hope you will get big bucks soon.
      Well, I know people do this all the time, but it's pretty unfair. Because this isn't a "real" PR4. It has no good backlinks.
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  • Profile picture of the author mubashir
    Yes, if backlinks are from safe sites and are not spam links linking to PR site.
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  • Profile picture of the author anamaria
    its ver very easy to buy or make fake pr domain
    for me da/pa /rank on serp/ and traffic is more important..
    i have 15 pr 3-5 websites for rank but link from trafficed domain have more power
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  • Profile picture of the author EvelynMunoz
    I think it is not right to judge any website alone with page rank. there are also some importent factors as domain athority, page rank athority, WOT rating, quality of that website, alexa ranking etc. Also see that website is giving dofollow links or nofollow links.
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