New ways to rank site!

by BIBI15
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new ways to rank site!
Hello warriors,

Every years it's becoming more and more difficult to rank site in google, people try different things, but this methods don't lust forever. Now, i have new website and after panda update it's hard for me to rank this one on any position. Some of my friends suggest submitting posts on article directories (but ezinearticle always bans my articles, for some reasons), i have also tried link exchange, someone told me that facebook comments are good, also made some web 2.0 for spamming my money site... but nothing worked !!!!

So now i need your help. Please suggest me any good method which really works, it would be fine if you link me article where those methods are explained.


ps. i want to rank my flash game site.
#rank #site #ways
  • Profile picture of the author kashifraza
    try posting as a guest in high rank relevent blogs, also use videos for marketing.
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    • Profile picture of the author Chalee23
      Originally Posted by kashifraza View Post

      try posting as a guest in high rank relevent blogs, also use videos for marketing.
      Yes I agree, but you must take action only on do-follow blogs, and higher then PR4
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  • Profile picture of the author BIBI15
    you mean making a signature in forum??
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    • Profile picture of the author Ryan3
      Originally Posted by BIBI15 View Post

      you mean making a signature in forum??
      2 choices. Build high pr links (expensive) or use spam in blasts(cheap)
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  • Profile picture of the author BIBI15
    can you explain me how can i get those high quality (expensive) links?
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    • Profile picture of the author 1nsan3
      Originally Posted by BIBI15 View Post

      can you explain me how can i get those high quality (expensive) links?
      Spend $50,000 on some good domains
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  • Profile picture of the author Dr los3
    Would you be proud enough of your website to show it to a group of high-class multi-millionaire CEOs?

    If not, i don't think any backlinks will help a dying brand/website/business.

    On topic--Buy some fiverr gigs, theyre $5 and build TONs of links!!!
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    • Profile picture of the author 1nsan3
      Originally Posted by Dr los3 View Post

      Would you be proud enough of your website to show it to a group of high-class multi-millionaire CEOs?

      If not, i don't think any backlinks will help a dying brand/website/business.

      On topic--Buy some fiverr gigs, theyre $5 and build TONs of links!!!
      LOL - That's got to be the best reality check I've seen in a long time.
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    • Profile picture of the author mkgg
      Originally Posted by Dr los3 View Post

      Would you be proud enough of your website to show it to a group of high-class multi-millionaire CEOs?

      If not, i don't think any backlinks will help a dying brand/website/business.

      On topic--Buy some fiverr gigs, theyre $5 and build TONs of links!!!
      What kind of question is that ? Being proud of your site has nothing to do with rankings, i am proud of each and every site/web 2.0/PBN i have build and i would gladly show it to a high-class multi-billionaire CEOs heck Bill gates can come and take a look because making them has taken my precious time and its also more of an ego thing.

      I am proud of everything i do and there is none of my lesser work so now building backlinks will benefit me but if i wasn't then it would be useless ?.

      To OP: It is going to be difficult to rank a flash website because of how little the content is going to be. I would try blackhat links like the big russian network on a site i can throw away that will sneakily redirect traffic to your money site.
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  • Profile picture of the author 1nsan3
    Originally Posted by BIBI15 View Post

    new ways to rank site!
    Hello warriors,

    Every years it's becoming more and more difficult to rank site in google, people try different things, but this methods don't lust forever. Now, i have new website and after panda update it's hard for me to rank this one on any position. Some of my friends suggest submitting posts on article directories (but ezinearticle always bans my articles, for some reasons), i have also tried link exchange, someone told me that facebook comments are good, also made some web 2.0 for spamming my money site... but nothing worked !!!!

    So now i need your help. Please suggest me any good method which really works, it would be fine if you link me article where those methods are explained.


    ps. i want to rank my flash game site.

    Get this, your links won't mean shit if your site is a pile, so create something good and you might get a surprise. If your game is not making you millions then it's not good enough, hehe.

    Google is not working like it did 2 years ago. Your site needs to meet some quality metrics before your links will even make a difference.. your links need to meet some quality metrics before they will make a difference and the content around your links needs to meet certain quality signals now... plus your links to your links to your links needs to have quality signals.. and the links to those links too... and then if your site is a pile Google will dump it...
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  • Profile picture of the author asuwa
    still have to build high backlink and have good content.
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  • I agree with Asuwa, i.e. to build dofollow backlinks at top ranking sites and ensure your content is unique at every place.
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  • Profile picture of the author serpyre
    "but links are the #1 factor in rankings" - that actually is only partially true. Some context, you have classes of business: Micro Enterprise <$3mil revenue/yr & <10employees; Small Enterprise $3-14mil revenue; Medium Enterprise $14-70mil revenue; Large Enterprise $70mil+.

    Here 99% will be working in the Micro level, and a splattering of Small Enterprise experience (Business SEO). The thing is, at Medium & Large Enterprise levels they do it very differently (Technical SEO), it is the reason they have 5-10:1 revenue:effort compared to Micro which used to be 1:1 and now is more like 1:2.

    We know this because we saw the results of their test sites using Magento (Affiliate & eCommerce) & WordPress (Affiliate) - first page ranking next to Google in a few weeks – but it used a hosting architecture that only the Medium & Large Enterprise companies use. So therein lies the problem, at Micro levels there is very little understanding of how the big guys roll, Google changed over to tech seo around 2010/11, it takes around 3yrs to filter down the mainstream. It is like water running out of a plughole, the bigger the hole (your site, sector, pricing, content quality, backlinks) the quicker your ranking and indexing flows out – or never holds water in the first place.

    The principle is to stem the flow until you figure something else out, but as time goes by a new hole (think damn) will spring a leak and you only have so many fingers, thumbs and toes and only so much range to plug them. It is the case now of the fat tails, they will look like they work until it goes bang. Personally we never found a satisfactory medium to long term way to buy backlinks, the real trick is to get them to come to you organically but that is pretty difficult – so we took a completely different approach.

    “Would you be proud enough of your website to show it to a group of high-class multi-millionaire CEOs?” – we like this but, it is possible to build something with 10s thousands products that looks the part literally in a few weeks and behind the scenes just run it in Excel (you would be surprised the size of companies doing this). That’s hard to do with content sites, you need the content and everyone just helps themselves to it – ecommerce is tough due to the increasing fraud issues. As we said in other places, it is moving to large enterprise ‘look’ (which is the proud enough statement) or a very selected niche – that seems to be the place to be.

    Buying links can work (not something we do), but as with everything it is about the quality – they can easily do more harm than good if you get the wrong ones.
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  • Profile picture of the author BIBI15
    to sum up, which method do you suggest me to get good quality backlinks??

    should i make some other websites (using proxy) and then link those sites to my money website???
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  • Profile picture of the author serpyre
    That's the thing, we don't, we let them come in organically by making the site look like something a millionaire ceo would like, still puts a smile on our face that quote, excellent. The way you want to do it - there are many other people more experienced than us that will advise on the techniques - the only thing to remember is that it is artistic - no fixed rules - so what works for one will destroy the next person.

    You need to do this, have a snowball and make it turn in to an avalanche. The problem is getting the first snowball to run - PRWeb with their high profile press releases are pretty good - but you need to cross reference it all. The backlinks are effectively there to trick Google in to pushing your content higher in the rankings, it doesn't mean anyone will buy anything from you - and Google changed the rules anyway to dillute these. People are pretty smart when it comes to spending money, if it smells wrong they walk away.

    So it all depends what you want, Google rankings -or- build visitor trust so they buy, doing both is stupidly difficult. We have some weird things we do, one example is we build affiliate sites and cross link the new shops products in to them so they are listed next to the top retailers (trust) - but it is a pain to build a high quality affiliate site with auto-loading (fortunately we have some special tools that do it for us).
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  • Profile picture of the author serpyre
    We probably didn't explain ourselves very well, let's try again. We use technical methods, an example is we build affiliate sites with top retailers and put the core site products there as well, we use complex autoloading tools to clean and map the data with data enrichment derived from the tools companies like Walmart use. We also use special hosting derived from the same hosting that companies like Saks or Shopstyle use, so we get technical seo ranking up with the enterprises minimising business effort.

    All the suggestions will be business based, buying or building links and so on, we don't do that, we don't like clicking, and we don't like the lack of clarity in the links heritage. It only takes one bad apple to bring down the house of cards - that would keep us awake at night.

    Both methods work, but we prefer to do other things, technical methods allow us to sit outside having a pizza like last night and let the computer do all the work for us - or write very nice press releases to post. It's just the way we do it - but like in Oceans Eleven we are the ones looking at the pretty girl instead of watching the hotel be demolished - they both have the same effect in the end - one takes huge amounts of upfront work with zero initial return and the other is continuous day to day work.
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  • Profile picture of the author BIBI15
    can you explain me, how do you make links from blog comments?? for example: i have flash game website with 5 pages and articles which are not copied from other website..

    how can i make backlinks for my website, using blog comments??
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  • Profile picture of the author BIBI15
    How can i get backlinks from blog posts?
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    You are not going to rank a flash game website. There are already a ton of them.
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  • Profile picture of the author vanished
    Private blog posts.
    Guest posting.
    Social shares.
    301 redirects from established websites.
    High quality blog comments.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dsdomination
    When you don't have $50,000 to invest you need to invest a lot of human force to get results. Honestly I would love first way, but it's hard to get investors to spend money as you want now. You need to have some good plans.

    As good ways to rank - just be active on search engines. Content will always be appreciated by engines. Your work will be also to get it placed on good sites.
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    • Profile picture of the author paulgl
      The same methods that actually worked, are working now.

      And probably will always work.

      What you are really asking, is what new ideas are there that can fool
      google, until they just tighten a noose around the same policies as before.

      How about this for something new. Stop trying to think up new ways of
      shmoozing google.

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  • Profile picture of the author Masondavis
    Try posting as a guest in high rank relevent blogs, also use videos for marketing.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by Masondavis View Post

      Try posting as a guest in high rank relevent blogs, also use videos for marketing.
      No high rank relevant blogs are going to want to link to this kind of junk.

      Look, there are thousands of these kinds of sites out there already. Unless you really know what you are doing, you are not going to outrank them.

      Crap like blog comments and article directories are not going to rank the site.

      Just forget about ranking. If you want to get traffic to a site like this, I would focus 100% on social media. You are wasting your time with SEO.
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      • Profile picture of the author biznics
        Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

        No high rank relevant blogs are going to want to link to this kind of junk.

        Look, there are thousands of these kinds of sites out there already. Unless you really know what you are doing, you are not going to outrank them.

        Crap like blog comments and article directories are not going to rank the site.

        Just forget about ranking. If you want to get traffic to a site like this, I would focus 100% on social media. You are wasting your time with SEO.
        A great piece of advice here by Mike. There are other ways to get traffic you know, target traffic. And social media is one of them.

        Engage in social activities, make communities, groups, and spread the word out about your site.

        But that doesn't mean you have to rely only on this channel. Make sure that your site is user-friendly and has something unique to offer to its audience (like latest games and etc.).

        Good luck,
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  • Profile picture of the author amazonspecialcode
    Link building and Link exchange technique is advance and effective way for get top ranks in search results.
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  • Profile picture of the author serpyre
    Actually the link GuaranteedSEORanking just supplied sums it up quite well for Business SEO (not sure whey their post disappeared) - Link Building Agency - Best Link Building Packages. For Technical SEO (triple clusters) - Pricing. The difference is that Technical SEO is 5-10x faster requiring 5-10x less effort but at 5-10x the cost with minimised risk as it avoids the Google updates - now it makes sense why the enterprise companies use Technical SEO as their preferred method and SMEs use Business SEO as their preferred method.
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