What does a real SEO Needs

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I just wanted to hear from the big guys over here. What is an real SEO. I am running a site. I just wanted to market my site and started marketing by myself. Nothing worked out fine. I came to Warrior Forum and read a lot. Most of the advertisements are catchy and i go with a concern over here (i will never mention them over here and am interacting with my colleague who had a account here for years to buy their products; so you cannot find that one too). After buying it (it had some 1000's of backlinks, contextual links etc.... as you guys know about how it will be) my site really got results. There was some good jump in keywords and rankings and all are going fine until the last year. Since the humming bird update came i lost most the traffic from Google; but am not in a penalty am pretty sure about that. After that i stopped buying something over here. I thought that is Black hat seo technique and i stopped; but the case become worse now. The guys over here really says that it was the real technique and no Black hat issues over here to buy anything. I thought the Warrior Forum is a good place to stay and i believe it as well. But i just want to know whether the persons over here are really selling good products, whether they are worthier to buy (from my point of view they are really doing good). I've collected three more persons from here to buy some products from them is that a right thing to do. I'm in a dilemma now. So somebody please help me out of these.
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  • Profile picture of the author agrydsoftech
    After humming bird i have analysis that SMO is more effective than SEO to get traffic on websites but organic search can increase only by search engine optimization.
    Research on search engine guideline and start building links from reputed website.
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    • Profile picture of the author prithvitheprime
      Originally Posted by agrydsoftech View Post

      After humming bird i have analysis that SMO is more effective than SEO to get traffic on websites but organic search can increase only by search engine optimization.
      Research on search engine guideline and start building links from reputed website.
      The search engine guide line clearly says it is not fair to buy any links. As you said organic search was my main problem for a year now. But i hadn't bought anything over here and it was the time where i got the traffic drop. So it is unfair right. If want the traffic back to my site what should i do. I will go with guys over here or not.
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  • Profile picture of the author prithvitheprime
    Still expecting help from you guys.....
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  • Profile picture of the author promo87
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    Originally Posted by prithvitheprime View Post

    I just wanted to hear from the big guys over here. What is an real SEO. I am running a site. I just wanted to market my site and started marketing by myself. Nothing worked out fine. I came to Warrior Forum and read a lot. Most of the advertisements are catchy and i go with a concern over here (i will never mention them over here and am interacting with my colleague who had a account here for years to buy their products; so you cannot find that one too). After buying it (it had some 1000's of backlinks, contextual links etc.... as you guys know about how it will be) my site really got results. There was some good jump in keywords and rankings and all are going fine until the last year. Since the humming bird update came i lost most the traffic from Google; but am not in a penalty am pretty sure about that. After that i stopped buying something over here. I thought that is Black hat seo technique and i stopped; but the case become worse now. The guys over here really says that it was the real technique and no Black hat issues over here to buy anything. I thought the Warrior Forum is a good place to stay and i believe it as well. But i just want to know whether the persons over here are really selling good products, whether they are worthier to buy (from my point of view they are really doing good). I've collected three more persons from here to buy some products from them is that a right thing to do. I'm in a dilemma now. So somebody please help me out of these.
    Well, you seemed to asked a very tricky question, actually let me give you a short and straight forward answer the real seo only needs the one content writer and one link builder in seo most of the spamming activity is already closed down by the google and what the whole seo is currently focused on is the the link building and the content sharing I would not advice you to involve in any other activities rather than these two. I would say content sharing over the social media networks and getting a good backlink is enough to keep you over the top of the search results. Other than this the all the process of seo like localization etc can be done at the normal ...
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    • Profile picture of the author KeithYoung
      Originally Posted by promo87 View Post

      Well, you seemed to asked a very tricky question, actually let me give you a short and straight forward answer the real seo only needs the one content writer and one link builder in seo most of the spamming activity is already closed down by the google and what the whole seo is currently focused on is the the link building and the content sharing I would not advice you to involve in any other activities rather than these two. I would say content sharing over the social media networks and getting a good backlink is enough to keep you over the top of the search results. Other than this the all the process of seo like localization etc can be done at the normal ...
      Well said! Real SEO needs a proper and a unique content writer, as here we all know that content is a king for any social media marketing or online business, therefore we should have to give a proper attention regarding content writing. After content writing all the link building activities comes but it should not be black hat. Some of the useful and important activities are forum discussion, Q&A, web2.0 etc
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      • Profile picture of the author promo87
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        Originally Posted by KeithYoung View Post

        Well said! Real SEO needs a proper and a unique content writer, as here we all know that content is a king for any social media marketing or online business, therefore we should have to give a proper attention regarding content writing. After content writing all the link building activities comes but it should not be black hat. Some of the useful and important activities are forum discussion, Q&A, web2.0 etc
        Well, i couldn't get that is this your opinion or you are commenting over the post I have written, why i am saying this is because i have written the same thing in just a different way and you seemed to be writing the same thing over the .... this sounds weird !
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      • Profile picture of the author prithvitheprime
        Originally Posted by promo87 View Post

        Well, you seemed to asked a very tricky question, actually let me give you a short and straight forward answer the real seo only needs the one content writer and one link builder in seo most of the spamming activity is already closed down by the google and what the whole seo is currently focused on is the the link building and the content sharing I would not advice you to involve in any other activities rather than these two. I would say content sharing over the social media networks and getting a good backlink is enough to keep you over the top of the search results. Other than this the all the process of seo like localization etc can be done at the normal ...
        Originally Posted by KeithYoung View Post

        Well said! Real SEO needs a proper and a unique content writer, as here we all know that content is a king for any social media marketing or online business, therefore we should have to give a proper attention regarding content writing. After content writing all the link building activities comes but it should not be black hat. Some of the useful and important activities are forum discussion, Q&A, web2.0 etc
        Thanks guys now i got it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dsdomination
    My first stop will be on things that you should Not Do
    First of all stay away of pattern links where you can control signature, widgets or Bio. That’s one of the places where Google is massively penalizing. Networks, profile links, all have the same purpose. Controlling anchor texts is negative and that will keep being Google’s main target. Using anchors and Bio more than at a normal scale pushes link building strategies to a manipulative direction. That’s a second scale doorway that many marketers use nowadays.
    Guest posting is a very difficult job and once it captures you attention, you can start a real war against your business. And it’s pretty logical how exact match keyword backlinks can be very bad. A real over-optimization model, that is creating negative footprints for your business. Doing all this without any backlinks on it works much better and creates a high benefit and natural effect. Basically, the effort is being reduced when you get linked back by someone as a reference and that can be done in any manner. That’s a natural and quality link, despite the form it comes to me.
    Footers will remain a bad place for external links. So don’t go there. Also problematic are the side-wide links which also offer the same problems.

    What you should Do
    Being active on search engines is very important. Actually that keeps the system up. And the gold word that I want to underscore is that content is the foundation to a solid natural optimization. Social signals and distribution is the purpose of the Link Building Office long term strategy. Flawless content and link building strategies is the key and solution that anyone can do. Sharing your content is what all about. Exposing it on the right places will bring the right traffic all the time.
    Digging for natural links, niche links is one method that still stands up and will stand for a long period. You win credibility, traffic and lose the effect of controlling the anchors. This way you get a strong natural link, that backlinks to your website with no further problems.
    Use nofollow in link building, the new methodology.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
      Originally Posted by Dsdomination View Post

      My first stop will be on things that you should Not Do
      First of all stay away of pattern links where you can control signature, widgets or Bio. That’s one of the places where Google is massively penalizing. Networks, profile links, all have the same purpose. Controlling anchor texts is negative and that will keep being Google’s main target. Using anchors and Bio more than at a normal scale pushes link building strategies to a manipulative direction. That’s a second scale doorway that many marketers use nowadays.
      Guest posting is a very difficult job and once it captures you attention, you can start a real war against your business. And it’s pretty logical how exact match keyword backlinks can be very bad. A real over-optimization model, that is creating negative footprints for your business. Doing all this without any backlinks on it works much better and creates a high benefit and natural effect. Basically, the effort is being reduced when you get linked back by someone as a reference and that can be done in any manner. That’s a natural and quality link, despite the form it comes to me.
      Footers will remain a bad place for external links. So don’t go there. Also problematic are the side-wide links which also offer the same problems.

      What you should Do
      Being active on search engines is very important. Actually that keeps the system up. And the gold word that I want to underscore is that content is the foundation to a solid natural optimization. Social signals and distribution is the purpose of the Link Building Office long term strategy. Flawless content and link building strategies is the key and solution that anyone can do. Sharing your content is what all about. Exposing it on the right places will bring the right traffic all the time.
      Digging for natural links, niche links is one method that still stands up and will stand for a long period. You win credibility, traffic and lose the effect of controlling the anchors. This way you get a strong natural link, that backlinks to your website with no further problems.
      Use nofollow in link building, the new methodology.
      Uses spun content for replies, but tells you "content is what its all about".
      Thinks social signals have something to do with ranking.
      Thinks optimized anchors have a negative effect on ranking.

      And the icing on the cake.

      "Use nofollow in link building, the new methodology."



      I think I shall pass on the SEO coaching you offer.

      Thread of the week in my book.
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  • Profile picture of the author ChristianSites
    "What does a real SEO Needs"

    Either proper grammar or a good writer ;-).
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  • Profile picture of the author SEO Power
    There is no type of SEO you can do without any risk involved. Even sites using completely whitehat techniques get penalised when algorithm updates are rolled out. So just start over and make sure you find out as much information as you can about any service you intend to order as well as read their reviews.

    A real SEO needs quality backlinks and patience.
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  • Profile picture of the author serpyre
    SMEs use Business SEO (backlinks, social media, press releases) - the automation tools are just quick ways to generate Business SEO. The corporates use Technical SEO but it is complex, they generate ~25 organic visitors per $1 hosting - basically 10:1 compared to the Business SEO techniques. There are some people very good at Business SEO, but not that many - it is artistic by nature so thinks of musicians - it is exactly the same thing. Buying backlinks is a short term gain medium and long term pain - you have no quality control so as soon as Google catches up - and they will - most of the time you've had it.
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  • Profile picture of the author amenwolf
    Variety and Consistency.
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  • Profile picture of the author henryvg
    take back link in difference domain and content quality to good
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  • Profile picture of the author alvinchua91
    I've been in SEO for several years and doing clients SEO for quite a long while as well.
    I believe I have what it takes to answer your question.

    I think your main question is (correct me if I'm wrong): How do I perform SEO in a safe, effective and long-term manner?

    ANSWER: Don't buy backlinks from places you don't know, don't use automated submissions, don't do anything that sounds like a shortcut.

    Links DO matter, but the important thing is it MUST be relevant links which truly add value to a human visitor (and thus the relevant backlink has to come from a relevant site as well e.g. another authority blog, Wikipedia.org e.t.c.)

    If your backlinks don't look natural to a human being, and comes from unrelated sites, it is only a matter of time before your website's SEO gets destroyed by another Google animal update.

    Just think from Google's POV - how can they best help their visitors (aka people who use Google) to find the most relevant content which provides the most value? [if you can answer this question, then you would know the answer to SEO, if not, look for me ]
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  • Profile picture of the author devinesoul186
    SEO is not a mammoth task. It is a continuous process of marketing your business website through some legit techniques that we also called as "white hat seo". And I think you are already aware of those seo techniques. But knowledge alone is not enough to get success in seo field as you have to compete with thousands of other marketers that are constantly working. So be patient and work hard constantly. Also daily give some time to read about latest seo updates in websites like search engine watch and search engine land.
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  • Profile picture of the author MrExclusive
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    • Originally Posted by MrExclusive View Post

      Focus 80% of your time on creating valuable content, submit that to directories and link it to to your website. Promote your content on social media platforms, have 2-3 link builders building MANUALLY everyday to PR3-PR7 websites and you will be on Page 1 in no time....DONT FORGET...VALUABLE CONTENT!!!

      agree with the first sentence but not sure about the rest. I think link builders are useless, i'd much rather hire 'content builders' who can create something high quality for my niche. Of course these probably cost 10x what a link builder would charge
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  • Profile picture of the author ariftrain1
    Just post unique content. More unique content, more high PR backlinks then you can get more traffic. More traffic means more high ranking of your site. I use Moonsearch for this.
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  • Profile picture of the author NShankar
    The warrior forum is huge. So you can find all sorts of people here. Somebody will go over board and help, somebody will offer you paid coaching, some one will be ready to work for you as VA and some companies will offer link building at special rates. There is no fixed method to identify the best one. Trust your internal feelings and cross check the facts and their earlier feedback / reviews, don't fall into trap just because something great is mentioned in the sales page or in mail. My 2 cents :-)
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    • Profile picture of the author prithvitheprime
      Originally Posted by SEO Power View Post

      There is no type of SEO you can do without any risk involved. Even sites using completely whitehat techniques get penalised when algorithm updates are rolled out. So just start over and make sure you find out as much information as you can about any service you intend to order as well as read their reviews.

      A real SEO needs quality backlinks and patience.
      Originally Posted by serpyre View Post

      SMEs use Business SEO (backlinks, social media, press releases) - the automation tools are just quick ways to generate Business SEO. The corporates use Technical SEO but it is complex, they generate ~25 organic visitors per $1 hosting - basically 10:1 compared to the Business SEO techniques. There are some people very good at Business SEO, but not that many - it is artistic by nature so thinks of musicians - it is exactly the same thing. Buying backlinks is a short term gain medium and long term pain - you have no quality control so as soon as Google catches up - and they will - most of the time you've had it.
      Originally Posted by alvinchua91 View Post

      I've been in SEO for several years and doing clients SEO for quite a long while as well.
      I believe I have what it takes to answer your question.

      I think your main question is (correct me if I'm wrong): How do I perform SEO in a safe, effective and long-term manner?

      ANSWER: Don't buy backlinks from places you don't know, don't use automated submissions, don't do anything that sounds like a shortcut.

      Links DO matter, but the important thing is it MUST be relevant links which truly add value to a human visitor (and thus the relevant backlink has to come from a relevant site as well e.g. another authority blog, Wikipedia.org e.t.c.)

      If your backlinks don't look natural to a human being, and comes from unrelated sites, it is only a matter of time before your website's SEO gets destroyed by another Google animal update.

      Just think from Google's POV - how can they best help their visitors (aka people who use Google) to find the most relevant content which provides the most value? [if you can answer this question, then you would know the answer to SEO, if not, look for me ]
      Originally Posted by devinesoul186 View Post

      SEO is not a mammoth task. It is a continuous process of marketing your business website through some legit techniques that we also called as "white hat seo". And I think you are already aware of those seo techniques. But knowledge alone is not enough to get success in seo field as you have to compete with thousands of other marketers that are constantly working. So be patient and work hard constantly. Also daily give some time to read about latest seo updates in websites like search engine watch and search engine land.
      Originally Posted by NShankar View Post

      The warrior forum is huge. So you can find all sorts of people here. Somebody will go over board and help, somebody will offer you paid coaching, some one will be ready to work for you as VA and some companies will offer link building at special rates. There is no fixed method to identify the best one. Trust your internal feelings and cross check the facts and their earlier feedback / reviews, don't fall into trap just because something great is mentioned in the sales page or in mail. My 2 cents :-)
      Thanks a lot dudes.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dokemion
    Real SEO Needs Planning - Time - Investment - Gambling.

    A career controlled by Giants is anybody's game.
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    Contact me for any SEO Services you need I'm glad to be of your service.

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