New websites rank at page 1-2 and then fall down

by mojo26
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Hi people i see something that happen to me at the 60 % of my websites

After i make a new website and approve in web master tools

and after 1-2 weeks the website rank at very very good position

even one of my websites rank page 3 at very competitor keyword
"locksmith"

and then after 1-2 weeks its start go down and sometimes even disappear
i was thinking why this happen to me so many times

after the website position go down i tried to add quality
backlinks to see what will happen(maybe it will go back )

in this niche is very hard and takes time to be first ,so its good even if the website go back to page 4-5 for the start

but the website rank page 7

somebody know why its happen to new websites?
#fall #page #rank #websites
  • Profile picture of the author npoint
    This what I do since a long time is stay away from any Google tools including Google analytics and Webmasters tools, google track ours each step and use that knowledge against us (:

    When using GWT frequently most of the people do`nt sign out once they finish what they do.

    If you do a lot of SEO related things on your PC and you are using same time GWT ,google will track this what you do on your PC , example: look at the ads they serve you (:, once you visit couple of times some websites they will serve you those companies Ads in ADWords then very frequently (((:

    Even using gmail accounts for seo purposes (to create accounts for GSA SER for example) is not good idea, cos they will have then everything about you, I belive they use all those data they collect in the way we can`t even imagine.

    But of course I am not saying in your case it was that, there are hundreds of reasons google could penalize you for, over optimization, bad anchor profile, too high lin velocity - many many more reasons, we don`t know anything about your websites so it`s really hard to point out the reason of that.
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  • Profile picture of the author RS3RS
    Did you happen to build a large number of links to your site from the start? If so, Google may have given it a certain time allowance for sites that naturally go viral (leading to initially high rankings), then noticed a lack of other viral signals and dropped your rankings accordingly.

    If you didn't build a bunch of links, you may be noticing the "ranking delay" that people are experiencing after the May 14 update. Sites affected are sometimes noticing decent rankings at first, then falling off the map for one to two or more months before slowly climbing back up. In that case, there's not much you can do (it sucks, I know). Just keep adding quality content in the mean time, and try not to build too many links, as it doesn't seem to make much of a difference with the current ranking delay.
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  • Profile picture of the author krnekdo
    What happens is the so called "honeymoon period".. The first few weeks of your sites life you get very high rankings and then when G indexes you and ranks you properly, then you go to the actual ranking that your site is worth in the beginning. From there on you need to build quality content and quality links if you want to actually reach top rankings.

    This has nothing to do with using GWT or gmail or anything like that You can check this thread on WF that was also discussing this topic: http://www.warriorforum.com/search-e...riod-real.html

    So just keep up the good work and don't get crazy with link building and you will get back to the top eventually and if you do enough work on your site.
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  • Profile picture of the author serpyre
    We love the people in these forums trying to disprove how Google works, unless you know how the Large Enterprise companies rank their site and preferably Google algorithms work - it is all conjecture - what works for one will not work for the next due to circumstance. Of course, just like everything in life, once they figure out the site is the same as the other millions out there it will drop like a stone - there is always an initial delay once it hits the water before it starts sinking. Our pricinple is to be a boat rather than a stone - but it is very different dynamics - so you have to follow everyone's advice. By the way, yes, Google do track things, they are a data mining company so we find it best not to give them keys to our front door ie. using the tools they provide.
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  • Profile picture of the author SEO Power
    It's just a Google dance. Give it a few days or weeks and it will return to it's former position or a higher one. This usually happens when you build lots of backlinks within a short time span or you build very powerful backlinks to your site.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Davison
    It's just a Google dance. Give it a few days or weeks and it will return to it's former position or a higher one. This usually happens when you build lots of backlinks within a short time span or you build very powerful backlinks to your site.
    Took the words out of my mouth "Google Dance". It happened to most of my sites, just carry on what you are doing and it will settle after 2-3 weeks (mine did).

    Mark.
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  • +1 for Google dance

    just keep plugging away building links and you'll soon increase ranking
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  • Profile picture of the author saovietxulynuoc
    It's nomarl, I think. Cause Google alway want fresh new, so your website being the top first, but It's not the true position. Best way you should do is adding useful information, that is interesting and attractive for readers
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  • Profile picture of the author NShankar
    It seems that your rankings are affected by Pigeon update by google (the update is not yet named by google but it is the name given by searchengineland). Read more about it here

    Experts Weigh In On Google's "Pigeon" Update Aimed At Improving Local Search Results

    This update is aimed to improve the quality of the local search results. Also it might be an google dance in rankings which is normal for new websites.
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  • Profile picture of the author Anurag96
    New sites get extra boost but not for much time. This is what have been happened to your site. If you start a good link building campaign from the starting then after losing the rank you will get your rank back in some weeks.
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  • Profile picture of the author mojo26
    Its a brand new websites with any link .. when i tried to add backlink i do only 5 and i make them with different anchors and to different pages ...
    so if google like new contents. So you think it will be good to change the content every few months ? not to change all. change first Paragraph and more extra content like testimonials ... just to make google think that my website are fresh?
    do you think that fresh websites is high seo factor ?
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  • Profile picture of the author mojo26
    it you think smart backlinnks at the begin will help to keep the site up ?
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  • Profile picture of the author amazonspecialcode
    sometimes duplicate and repeated content creates this problem .so you should have to use some effective backlinks techniques.
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  • Profile picture of the author ppscslv
    Usually, Google loves fresh content, so keep your website updated, To increase your new website traffic build backlinks with high quality content (5 - 20 - N posts/week) on: YouTube, Dailymotion, Vimeo, Slideshare, Academia, and some high PR public blogging websites, like worpress,com, sites.google,com, blogspot,com, etc.

    All work should be manually done with original content!
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  • Profile picture of the author PBScott
    I was talking to an ex Google employee about this a few years ago, he said before your website gets it's actual rank, it is given a 0 score, which of course comes before 1 for the keywords, so places it at the top.

    This is keyword rank not pagerank or anything.
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    • Profile picture of the author krnekdo
      This and this is the Honeymoon period that comes and goes very soon..

      Originally Posted by PBScott View Post

      I was talking to an ex Google employee about this a few years ago, he said before your website gets it's actual rank, it is given a 0 score, which of course comes before 1 for the keywords, so places it at the top.

      This is keyword rank not pagerank or anything.
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  • Profile picture of the author amzhr5
    It's normal... Start building good backlinks and it will be back even with more improved position.
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  • Profile picture of the author rohanjha
    Do SEO but dont Over- SEO
    If your site is new and you keep changes in your sites then your site position in Google searches will be fluctuate time to time. Just focus in few important terms :
    1.Unique Content
    2. Link building
    3. social media
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  • Profile picture of the author dharamrajacme
    In first time url, keyword, description, directory submission, are unique so page rank gone on page 1-2.
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  • Profile picture of the author maeljackson
    overspamming of seo should be avoided. write unique articles.
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  • Profile picture of the author aadi14
    It happens sometimes, but if you are doing a lot of backlinking activities then you have to think again and don't do over optimization. Its also possible that you are checking the keyword while logging in to your Gmail account. In this case you can see changes as well.
    Technically, keep focusing on your content, URL and site structure as well. Make changes wherever possible.
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  • Profile picture of the author qowb
    There's possibly nothing to worry about, it could be very temporary if you stick to good quality content and authority link building. Already explained by others, so I would rather like to point you out some external resources, you may find helpful, if the problem persists.

    Why Your Search Rankings Are Dropping (and 7 Ways to Fix It)
    Why Did My Site's Google Ranking Drop?
    What should you do if your Google Ranking Falls and you lose all your traffic?
    Sudden Search Traffic Drop? 6 Questions to Help Diagnose the Cause
    5 SEO Mistakes that Crush Rankings



    Originally Posted by mojo26 View Post

    Hi people i see something that happen to me at the 60 % of my websites

    After i make a new website and approve in web master tools

    and after 1-2 weeks the website rank at very very good position

    even one of my websites rank page 3 at very competitor keyword
    "locksmith"

    and then after 1-2 weeks its start go down and sometimes even disappear
    i was thinking why this happen to me so many times

    after the website position go down i tried to add quality
    backlinks to see what will happen(maybe it will go back )

    in this niche is very hard and takes time to be first ,so its good even if the website go back to page 4-5 for the start

    but the website rank page 7

    somebody know why its happen to new websites?
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  • Profile picture of the author Hemanth Malli
    Its just a play of Google and if you r using some other tool like webmaster and all google will be watching each and every step of you and there might be another reason like if you are using wide range of links in your site then Google can give only limited period of timefor those sites after that it will slowly stops those link connectivity.
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