A Tiered Network VS a PBN - Am I missing something or does tiered link building still work?

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Awhile back people used to be in the habit of using spam links to build up domains and then get them to a PR1 or PR2. I haven't touched GSA in a while. Anyway a question recently came up (by way of PM) as to whether this is a good practice anymore (not the Pr part since that isn't updated often). I know most of the old timers here buy domains with organic link juice (not blasting domains with link software) but I would be interested to hear from regulars as to how tiered link building is doing these days.

Did it make a come back? Still viable? Good for those who can't afford a regular network? Especially would like names who I know participate here often and for awhile....since sorry but theres always a newbie claiming that something works in these kinds of threads even if its about fiverr gigs..
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  • Profile picture of the author patadeperro
    I have been using tiered link building for a while and it still works, I have several web 2.0 properties which have decent content and I spam them with software backlinks and then I send contextual links from the Web 2.0 properties to the money sites and it works fine to me.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Hey Pat. Thanks for your input.

      Have you ever used bought domains with organic links in a network to compare them to the tiered link network?
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      • Profile picture of the author patadeperro
        Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

        Hey Pat. Thanks for your input.

        Have you ever used bought domains with organic links in a network to compare them to the tiered link network?
        Not really compare because I mix both techniques, to me both (used domains and Web 2.0 properties) are part of the arsenal, just that I never spam the used domains because I have seen used domains being deindexed and "punished" for spammy profiles but I have never seen a Web 2.0 property banned or punished (I am not saying it does not exist, I am saying I have not seen it myself)
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        • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
          Originally Posted by patadeperro View Post

          Not really compare because I mix both techniques, to me both (used domains and Web 2.0 properties) are part of the arsenal, just that I never spam the used domains because I have seen used domains being deindexed and "punished" for spammy profiles but I have never seen a Web 2.0 property banned or punished (I am not saying it does not exist, I am saying I have not seen it myself)
          Thats interesting so you use self backlinking only on web 2.0s?
          not own domains? With the deindexed sites - were these domains that were in a tier (like last tier) or money sites?

          BTW yes it would be harder for Google to deindex a web 2.0 considering the domain owner is not involved.
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          • Profile picture of the author patadeperro
            Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

            Thats interesting so you use self backlinking only on web 2.0s?
            not own domains?
            Yes

            Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

            With the deindexed sites - were these domains that were in a tier (like last tier) or money sites?
            the deindexed sites were in a tier not money sites.
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            • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
              Originally Posted by patadeperro View Post

              the deindexed sites were in a tier not money sites.

              Woah.....I had not heard of a network site being deindexed for a spammy profile before. I never really tried blasting domains recently . it does make sense since they gave that penalizing spammers "upstream" notice last summer.
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  • Profile picture of the author SEO Power
    Tiered linking has always worked and will continue to work. It's the best backlink strategy after blog networks and yes, it's ideal for those who can't afford a PBN. The best thing about tiered linking is the flow of link juice from thousands of links without any link velocity penalty.
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    • Profile picture of the author patadeperro
      Originally Posted by SEO Power View Post

      The best thing about tiered linking is the flow of link juice from thousands of links without any link velocity penalty.
      Everything was going good until I read this
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
        Originally Posted by patadeperro View Post

        Everything was going good until I read this
        In his short time here he is beginning to build a reputation of not knowing what he is talking about
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by SEO Power View Post

      Tiered linking has always worked and will continue to work.
      You work at google now?
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  • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
    With the right list and the right man behind it, of course.

    It's churn and burn as things generally don't stick for very long. So you either let it slide and move on, or keep blasting at it until it's de-indexed. (Yes they get de-indexed). I see de-indexed pages every single day. Major spam mostly, think louisvoutton, viagra, cheapjersey.

    They are very extreme examples, but I have seen it on lesser spammed sub-domains. It is heavily weighted against adult, clothing and jewelry pages that get hit.

    TF is not that easy to con with spam. Well TF+20 would be a major win, again it depends on the list.

    Trying to do it for competitive keywords: NO WAY...
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by Kevin Maguire View Post

      It's churn and burn as things generally don't stick for very long. So you either let it slide and move on, or keep blasting at it until it's de-indexed. (Yes they get de-indexed). I see de-indexed pages every single day. Major spam mostly, think louisvoutton, viagra, cheapjersey.
      I do as well....my goodness the chinese have bought up every domain in sight....... I think they killed the "hayden method" all by themselves Lol.... but I have to admit I did not know the network sites got deindexed from tiered link spam. This old dog learned a new thing tonight

      TF is not that easy to con with spam. Well TF+20 would be a major win, again it depends on the list.
      yeah because TF only counts link juice originally coming from a certain seed set of domains. You could spam all day and not move Tf unless you hit the right sites. DA and PA the exact opposite . They ae easily gamed.

      Trying to do it for competitive keywords: NO WAY...
      Thats what I thought... not the strongest network....I guess we will see what happens with the alleged penguin 3.0 update and see if they tiered link building gets hit even more
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