Does bad hosting affect search engine rankings ?

by zaykem
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Hello,

I wanna to know if a slow web hosting can affect google rankings ?

If yes, what the best webhosting to recommande.

I'm using mochathost, my sites go down many times.
#affect #bad #hosting #search
  • Profile picture of the author Allena Hall
    This will affect your traffic and indirectly your ranking.
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  • Profile picture of the author steveproxy
    Yes slow website loading speed could cause Google ranking drop. If you feel that your hosting provider is not resolving the issue , switch to another host provider. Because Slow loading speed negative factor for user experience and ranking factor as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author Icematikx
    You need to step up your game and start investing in technology. I recommend two companies completely for wordpress hosting, those being Site5 and Siteground. With Site5, I'd go with their Cloud housting. With Siteground, definitely opt for their GrowBig package.

    With Siteground's GrowBig package, you get access to their supercaching technology. I'm getting loading times of 1.2 seconds with a pretty resource heavy wordpress affiliate site - which I consider to be extremely good for a mere £5 per month.
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  • Profile picture of the author ilee
    Loading time has an effect on ranking. As does the server reliability. A site with frequent downtime drops rank.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kalambur
    We live in 21st century.
    Why are people asking about using bad hostings? )
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  • Profile picture of the author Poly Hossain
    Yes, bad hosting affect search engine rankings. So don't use bad hosting.
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  • Profile picture of the author cellosara87
    Definitely, because server up time is compulsory in ranking signals all the time.
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  • Profile picture of the author vishwa
    Yes! Slow web hosting lead a slow website and it will certainly hurts your rankings in search engines. If you are unsatisfied with your existing provider than you can go with another like siteground, hawkhost, etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author SEOWizard417
    Website load times can influence your rankings. If you have a bad hosting provider and your site is down all the time, this can hurt your site quite a bit. Go with some better hosting, it doesn't cost much.
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  • Profile picture of the author zaykem
    Okay, did you recommande ipage.com hosting guyz ?
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    • Profile picture of the author Icematikx
      Originally Posted by zaykem View Post

      Okay, did you recommande ipage.com hosting guyz ?
      No, I don't. I know you want to go for as cheap as possible, but it won't work. iPage puts 500 websites on the same server, they are for the mass market.

      I recommended two hosts above. Site5 and Siteground. Both cost around £10-£15/month for a decent package. To get results, you need to invest.
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnnyPlan
    If your website hosting is down on a regular basis, how will the Google search bot crawl your site to find updates? This could pose a problem for getting your new pages/content ranked fast.
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  • Profile picture of the author serpyre
    Yes but it's not as simple as that. We know, some multi-national consultants have been explaining the concepts to us over the past year, too time consuming to explain the details but basically there are different tiers of providers. Those providers will provide from 1 (Siteground) to 30 (corporate grade) organic visitors per $1 of spend.

    You can offset that with time, but as the Google updates increase you have a hard limit of time and if you outsource it costs. So it has a direct and indirect affect but not in the way everyone thinks. Just moving to a new host generally will not solve the problem unless the other parts are also in sync - it is the sum of the parts - Google know pretty much everything about everything. You can game them short term (many try) but in the end you will come unstuck.

    The hard part is the balance, and most do not understand how to achieve that, so you can try moving to a higher quality host and it will provide some benefit - but in most cases other parts of the site are inadequate so the gains are marginal. If you do this on a site where the parts are all reasonably optimised - then yes - you gain a lot.
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    • Profile picture of the author Icematikx
      Originally Posted by serpyre View Post

      Yes but it's not as simple as that. We know, some multi-national consultants have been explaining the concepts to us over the past year, too time consuming to explain the details but basically there are different tiers of providers. Those providers will provide from 1 (Siteground) to 30 (corporate grade) organic visitors per $1 of spend.

      You can offset that with time, but as the Google updates increase you have a hard limit of time and if you outsource it costs. So it has a direct and indirect affect but not in the way everyone thinks. Just moving to a new host generally will not solve the problem unless the other parts are also in sync - it is the sum of the parts - Google know pretty much everything about everything. You can game them short term (many try) but in the end you will come unstuck.

      The hard part is the balance, and most do not understand how to achieve that, so you can try moving to a higher quality host and it will provide some benefit - but in most cases other parts of the site are inadequate so the gains are marginal. If you do this on a site where the parts are all reasonably optimised - then yes - you gain a lot.
      If Siteground is 1, then what's GoDaddy and Hostgator? 0.1?

      Jesus, it's like somebody has told you a bunch of crap and you just keep regurgitating it. I called you out before where you explained my site earnings per month would be "$700" based on your data. You were off by around 1000%. And that's Siteground powering it.

      Are you saying switching my affiliate site to a server in a datacentre will yield exponential profits? I don't see how that's going to increase the search traffic I'm targeting, since I'm already at #1.

      Perhaps there's some truth in what you say, since yes, faster & more stable hosting = higher conversions and potentially higher rankings. But this applies to enterprise businesses such as Amazon, Very etc, not affiliate marketers and small SME's like you'll find on WF.
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  • Profile picture of the author serpyre
    No, because you did not calculate your man hours in to the equation based on the years of building sites using linear progression. You will find if you calculate it correctly, which you did not as you only look at the direct figures not indirect which is time, it will come to the same.

    As we said previously, you have spent years building up your knowledge, none of this is relevant to you, but it is relevant to people who want to bypass that curve and do it a different way.

    By the way, the "somebody" are multi-national consultants with chargeouts of $2-4,000/day with experience from WordPress to Magento to SAP - and they know how to bypass linear progression even with small business tools. Considering a hedge fund hired them to make Magento work like ATG & Websphere - which they did - that "crap" allows them to rank a new site first page next to Amazon in a few weeks with only organic traffic and no social media, marketing or ppc costs.

    Again however, this isn't relevant to you as you have already done all your hard work over the past years - the only issue it does cause is that competitors can be up and running in weeks instead of years - so yes - we do understand that would cause some resentment - but that's business.
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    • Profile picture of the author Icematikx
      Originally Posted by serpyre View Post

      No, because you did not calculate your man hours in to the equation based on the years of building sites using linear progression. You will find if you calculate it correctly, which you did not as you only look at the direct figures not indirect which is time, it will come to the same.

      As we said previously, you have spent years building up your knowledge, none of this is relevant to you, but it is relevant to people who want to bypass that curve and do it a different way.

      By the way, the "somebody" are multi-national consultants with chargeouts of $2-4,000/day with experience from WordPress to Magento to SAP - and they know how to bypass linear progression even with small business tools. Considering a hedge fund hired them to make Magento work like ATG & Websphere - which they did - that "crap" allows them to rank a new site first page next to Amazon in a few weeks with only organic traffic and no social media, marketing or ppc costs.

      Again however, this isn't relevant to you as you have already done all your hard work over the past years - the only issue it does cause is that competitors can be up and running in weeks instead of years - so yes - we do understand that would cause some resentment - but that's business.
      Yes. Let's not hire a marketing team or in-house SEO team, because we can invest that money in hosting and reap the same benefits. It's all a load of baloney.
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  • Profile picture of the author LuckyIMer
    It can affect your website ranking, if the loading speed is slow, or if your website goes down.
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  • Profile picture of the author rajnishk418
    Yes bad hosting server effect website ranking.......and thanks for your experience

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    SEO Analyst- Akosha.com
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  • Profile picture of the author serpyre
    It's only "baloney" if you do not have the experience to do it or you have done it a different way in the first place so is not relevant to you.

    To the op, the thing is this, you have three core ways to generate income vs effort: 1to2:1 used by small business; 3to5:1 used by medium companies; 7to10:1 used by large corporates. With the first people use linear progression (as per the comments above), usually over many years (common) http://bpastudio.csudh.edu/fac/lpres...s/image002.gif. For the third they use logarithmic progression usually over months to a year or two (rare) - http://zone.ni.com/images/reference/...ithm_fit_1.gif. The medium will use some combination of the two (rare).

    So you can start with a cheap host but you have to work harder to generate the traffic via experience and effort over the medium to long term - there are no direct costs so it is in theory cheap. You can start with expensive hosting and it will do 80-95% of the work for you, but you will have upfront costs and that is directly expensive.

    In the end it all balances to the same, and Google knows this as it sees both direct and indirect aspects of the whole site over its duration. So you have to decide on your tradeoffs, there is no right or wrong way, just the way that suits your economic - time - experience balance.

    In the end hosting affects ranking and indexing but it is grey - not black and white - how grey it is depends on all the small details - unless you know how to neutralise that grey which is what the corporates and their hosting solutions excel at.
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    • Profile picture of the author Icematikx
      Originally Posted by serpyre View Post

      It's only "baloney" if you do not have the experience to do it or you have done it a different way in the first place so is not relevant to you.

      To the op, the thing is this, you have three core ways to generate income vs effort: 1to2:1 used by small business; 3to5:1 used by medium companies; 7to10:1 used by large corporates. With the first people use linear progression (as per the comments above), usually over many years (common) http://bpastudio.csudh.edu/fac/lpres...s/image002.gif. For the third they use logarithmic progression usually over months to a year or two (rare) - http://zone.ni.com/images/reference/...ithm_fit_1.gif. The medium will use some combination of the two (rare).

      So you can start with a cheap host but you have to work harder to generate the traffic via experience and effort over the medium to long term - there are no direct costs so it is in theory cheap. You can start with expensive hosting and it will do 80-95% of the work for you, but you will have upfront costs and that is directly expensive.

      In the end it all balances to the same, and Google knows this as it sees both direct and indirect aspects of the whole site over its duration. So you have to decide on your tradeoffs, there is no right or wrong way, just the way that suits your economic - time - experience balance.

      In the end hosting affects ranking and indexing but it is grey - not black and white - how grey it is depends on all the small details - unless you know how to neutralise that grey which is what the corporates and their hosting solutions excel at.
      This is ridiculous blabble once again. If I was to start an eCommerce site tomorrow, I would fire up some cloud hosting on Siteground. If I had $1,000 to invest, that $1,000 would go directly into acquiring links & content.

      You're the only person who claims that hosting is more relevant to search engine rankings than backlinks. You're the only person for a reason. Forget your multi-million consultants, because nobody knows they exist - we only hear you blabble on about them.

      Google has stated that site speed matters to some extent. Once you get below the 1 second loading time mark, I doubt there's any form of SERP increase at all.

      I can achieve the same results with Siteground cloud hosting as I can with a dedicated server plugged into an ethernet port. If you think Google ranks you based on what data center your server is in, then you're ridiculous. As I said, you're the only person blabbing this crap, and you seem to be doing it every post. It's getting annoying.
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  • Profile picture of the author npoint
    The speed of the website is one of the factors used by google so it has some influence on ranks.

    I am using hosting on OVH and Hostgator, dedicated, and also VPSes, they works pretty fast. I am especially satisfied with Hostgator cos their fantastic support ,they solve each problem via chat - at once. It`s bit a lot more expensive than OVH (in a price of VPS on OVH you can get dedi) but on OVH you will not have any support (only in case of hardware failures)
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  • Profile picture of the author fastreplies
    Originally Posted by zaykem View Post

    I wanna to know if a slow web hosting can affect google rankings ?
    NO, NO and NO
    Once Google crawl your site and placed it in SERP the only thing that will effect your site is: CONTENT

    Sure you will loose clients ans sell because of slow site but these two are Apples and Oranges



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