Abnormally High Amount of Backlinks?

by ROB321
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Hi Guys,

First timer here so go easy with the responces

I have recently started my own website and have ran it for around two months now.

I have Google Webmaster Tools for the site and today I have been checking the 'Links to Your Site' section.

Now most of the enteries are normal and I have around 80 websites listed there with with on average two links each.

There are two websites which have me listed as 4,500 links each which takes my total links to over 10,000 is this normal or is something astry ? And will this hurt me SEO?

Thanks Guys
#abnormally #amount #backlinks #high
  • Profile picture of the author fastreplies
    Originally Posted by ROB321 View Post

    There are two websites which have me listed as 4,500 links each which takes my total links to over 10,000 is this normal or is something astry ?
    That is because they're using script which places links on each and every page they have.
    Google normally ignores them.

    Originally Posted by ROB321 View Post

    And will this hurt me SEO?
    SEO and backlinks nothing but an oxymoron perpetuated by SEO illiterate "Pros"
    who use to sell and now cannot sell backlinks as PR factor any-longer so they are can
    to sell to week-minded at least something to help them to sell their services.



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  • Profile picture of the author SebastianAiden
    It is what fast replies said about the script linking to every page. It is most likely that you commented on one of their posts and they have a site wide recent comments widget that is on every single page, so it shows as a ton of links.

    I freaked out about the same things two months ago. I just stopped commenting and reading his site because of my paranoia and the backlinks dropped in the webmaster tools in a few weeks.
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    • Profile picture of the author ROB321
      Originally Posted by fastreplies View Post

      That is because they're using script which places links on each and every page they have.
      Google normally ignores them.



      SEO and backlinks nothing but an oxymoron perpetuated by SEO illiterate "Pros"
      who use to sell and now cannot sell backlinks as PR factor any-longer so they are can
      to sell to week-minded at least something to help them to sell their services.



      fastreplies

      Ah ok that's great thank you fastreplies!

      If I backlinks and SEO are an oxymoron, what other areas do you think I can work on to improve my SEO?


      Originally Posted by SebastianAiden View Post

      It is what fast replies said about the script linking to every page. It is most likely that you commented on one of their posts and they have a site wide recent comments widget that is on every single page, so it shows as a ton of links.

      I freaked out about the same things two months ago. I just stopped commenting and reading his site because of my paranoia and the backlinks dropped in the webmaster tools in a few weeks.
      Thanks for this Seb! So it's nothing to worry about then? Just leave it a few weeks and it should settle back down to normal then ?
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      • Profile picture of the author SebastianAiden
        Yeah it should unless you keep posting on there and being on the list or if it is a list of top commenters and you are on top. It eventually went away for me once I stopped commenting.
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      • Profile picture of the author fastreplies
        Originally Posted by ROB321 View Post

        Ah ok that's great thank you fastreplies!

        If I backlinks and SEO are an oxymoron, what other areas do you think I can work on to improve my SEO?
        I have one word for you:
        CONTENT

        Remember Field of Dreams: "If you build it, they will come."?



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        • Profile picture of the author danparks
          Originally Posted by fastreplies View Post

          I have one word for you:
          CONTENT

          Remember Field of Dreams: "If you build it, they will come."?



          fastreplies
          Just out of curiousity, after one builds this great content, how do people find out about it? I mean, considering it's fine and dandy to not have any links to the content.
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          • Profile picture of the author fastreplies
            Originally Posted by danparks View Post

            Just out of curiousity, after one builds this great content, how do people find out about it? I mean, considering it's fine and dandy to not have any links to the content.
            Ah, old, tired, useless: "we need backlinks garbage"...
            But why do we need them if all we need to get on top in SERP is Content and people will find you?

            Example.
            Google for: best free web directories and look for amray.com on page #1 and you tell me
            if we care a hell of a lot if people link to us.

            So, forget about backlinks and work on CONTENT.



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            • Profile picture of the author danparks
              Originally Posted by fastreplies View Post

              Ah, old, tired, useless: "we need backlinks garbage"...
              But why do we need them if all we need to get on top in SERP is Content and people will find you?

              Example.
              Google for: best free web directories and look for amray.com on page #1 and you tell me
              if we care a hell of a lot if people link to us.

              So, forget about backlinks and work on CONTENT.



              fastreplies
              Well, of course you don't care about getting backlinks. Now. You've got over 100,000 of them! And many of them are very nice - nice high PR. Here's a few of them in the following image. Are you trying to tell me those backlinks have nothing to do with ranking your site? Why not do a little test - disavow all of them, wait a while, and let's see where Google decides to rank your site based only on your great content.

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              • Profile picture of the author fastreplies
                LOL, it would be perfect if that data above come up from Google.
                We would have PR of 9 or even 10 and not according to Google:
                Google Back Links: 34
                Google Indexed Pages: 45,900


                I guess what need to be said:
                Don't trust everything you see and read on internet.



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                • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
                  Originally Posted by fastreplies View Post

                  LOL, it would be perfect if that data above come up from Google.
                  We would have PR of 9 or even 10 and not according to Google:
                  Google Back Links: 34
                  Google Indexed Pages: 45,900


                  I guess what need to be said:
                  Don't trust everything you see and read on internet.



                  fastreplies
                  Google never shows all or even more than a small fraction of the links that exist using the "link:" operator. It has been that way for years.

                  I'm not sure if you really believe what you are saying or if you are just trolling.
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  • Profile picture of the author st0nec0ld
    The best thing to do is to check on where are the backlinks coming from. If you think those are suspicious and negative backlinks then I think it will hurt your site. But if you think it is okay then there is nothing to worry about.
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  • Profile picture of the author danparks
    Originally Posted by fastreplies View Post

    LOL, it would be perfect if that data above come up from Google.
    We would have PR of 9 or even 10 and not according to Google:
    Google Back Links: 34
    Google Indexed Pages: 45,900
    The highest PR of a link I see is PR5, so it's pretty unlikely your site's home page would get a PR9 or PR10. Your site's home page is a PR4, which makes sense based on its backlinks. And by the way, how do you think a page gets a PR4? Obviously, from having some good backlinks directed to it - backlinks Google can see. Or do you think your home page would be a PR4 based entirely on "great content" and not on good backlinks that Google knows about.

    Originally Posted by fastreplies View Post

    I guess what need to be said:
    Don't trust everything you see and read on internet.
    I don't need to trust anything. I can simply visit any of the pages that are listed in SEO SpyGlass (or other backlink checker) and see the specified links. Below are the first three pages reported in the SEO SpyGlass image shown earlier. The backlinks are all there. Do you really think SEO SpyGlass, ahrefs, Majestic SEO, etc find all sorts of links that Google can't find?

    Your site's home page has PR because of backlinks. Your site's home page ranks because of backlinks. It's obvious to anyone. Exactly why you are so opposed to that idea is beyond me.

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    • Profile picture of the author fastreplies
      Originally Posted by danparks View Post

      The highest PR of a link I see is PR5, so it's pretty unlikely your site's home page would get a PR9 or PR10. Your site's home page is a PR4, which makes sense based on its backlinks. And by the way, how do you think a page gets a PR4?
      You're make me laugh.
      Our site has PR 6 (before G. slammed Directories in 2007) whereas the only links we had
      would come from brand new sites with PR of 0 or N/A. It might surprise you but amount
      of backlinks what is count before PR they have.

      Originally Posted by danparks View Post

      I don't need to trust anything. I can simply visit any of the pages that are listed in SEO SpyGlass (or other backlink checker) and see the specified links. Below are the first three pages reported in the SEO SpyGlass image shown earlier. The backlinks are all there. Do you really think SEO SpyGlass, ahrefs, Majestic SEO, etc find all sorts of links that Google can't find?
      Let me make it short and sweat for you.
      If Google cannot find backlinks, they simply don't exist and all that "SEO" garbage
      SEO SpyGlass, ahrefs, Majestic SEO exists only for people like you.

      Originally Posted by danparks View Post

      Your site's home page has PR because of backlinks. Your site's home page ranks because of backlinks. It's obvious to anyone. Exactly why you are so opposed to that idea is beyond me.
      Well, your problem is you're trying to prove to me something I knew before you learn that
      Backlinks = PR
      whereas I'm saying that
      Content = SERP

      Backlinks are the garbage Google are trying to clean from websites but you probably
      wouldn't know that because you're looking for answers in all wrong places.



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      • Profile picture of the author danparks
        Originally Posted by fastreplies View Post

        It might surprise you but amount of backlinks what is count before PR they have.
        You know it's very easy to quickly create 100s of thousands of PR0 backlinks using automated software, right? A lot of site owners do that. If it was quantity of links rather than PR quality, it would be incredibly simple for everyone to pump up the PR of their site pages. Doesn't work that way.

        Originally Posted by fastreplies View Post

        Let me make it short and sweat for you.
        If Google cannot find backlinks, they simply don't exist
        And if you think Google Webmaster Tools is showing you all the backlinks to your site that it knows about, you're quite mistaken. It's more of a representative sample. You really think Google can only find 34 of your 170,000 backlinks?

        Originally Posted by fastreplies View Post

        Well, your problem is you're trying to prove to me something I knew before you learn that
        Backlinks = PR
        So you do agree that backlinks bring about PR. Why does Google bother with PR? What do they use it for? They use it to assign worth to a page, and to determine which links are more powerful than others (in general, a backlink coming from a higher PR page has more worth than links coming from a lower PR page). Of what use is that information to Google? Google needs to have a use for that information or they wouldn't be calculating it. The use is, of course, to help rank web pages.
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        • Profile picture of the author fastreplies
          Originally Posted by danparks View Post

          So you do agree that backlinks bring about PR.
          Where did I ever said anything otherwise?
          Since the beginning 10+ years ago when Google and later paid prostitute G's mouthpiece
          Matt "Katz" started selling backlinks concepts like backlinks wheels and others, backlinks
          were the power behind PR.

          Originally Posted by danparks View Post

          Why does Google bother with PR? What do they use it for?
          Are you kidding me.
          Google totally neglected PR sometimes 3 years ago. Last time G. updated PR 9 month ago
          and before that G. wouldn't update PR for a whole year, and before that for 6 month.

          Why would anyone with brains trust PR based on bought and sold backlinks by thousands?
          Are you saying that G. has no idea that PR is as bogus as $7.00 bill?

          The only reason G. is keeping PR hanging around is to keep people like you have something
          to talk about like you're doing right now. G effectively abounded PR and a FACT that it running
          campaign to kill backlinks, eradicate present and to stop future should tell you at least something
          and give you a clue if G. bother with promoting backlinks any-longer.



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          • Profile picture of the author danparks
            Originally Posted by fastreplies View Post

            Google totally neglected PR sometimes 3 years ago. Last time G. updated PR 9 month ago and before that G. wouldn't update PR for a whole year, and before that for 6 month.

            G effectively abounded PR and a FACT that it running campaign to kill backlinks,
            Well aware that Google hasn't been *publicly* updating PR as displayed in the Google Toolbar. That has nothing to do with their internal updating and use of PR. If they aren't using PR internally any more, what are they using to determine rank? Oh yeah, just great content.

            Interesting that people still do rank pages with almost no content. There are countless examples of people who put up a thin page with maybe just an image or a sentence of text, toss a bunch of great backlinks at the page and rank for the keyword that matches the anchor text.
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