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Can anyone shed some light on this SEO strategy???

by sconlinemarketing
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Peter Garety has a program called HybridPBN in which he teaches you to use subdomains for all your t2 links.

He says to set up your PBN as follows.

Money site

5 or whatever number of t1 sites for your tier 1 links.

Subdomains of the above t1 sites linking to your t1 sites, these acting as your tier 2's

Web 2.0, blog commenting and whatever links linking to the above subdomains for your tier 3 links.

So my question. Is this a good strategy to use subdomains of your tier 1 sites for your tier 2 links?

Thanks for your input.
#light #seo #shed #strategy
  • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
    IF I am reading this "strategy" right I think he's pretty close to crazy
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    • Profile picture of the author Denise Patton
      Would love to hear the cons of this. It seems like it would give an added boost, but I am so newbie on this topic, so I'll sit and wait.
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    • Profile picture of the author patco
      Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

      IF I am reading this "strategy" right I think he's pretty close to crazy
      He is much closer than what you are thinking... I even don't get the point and what should we expect
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  • Profile picture of the author AndresNWD
    Sorry but I don't understand, what would be de advantage of creating a tier2 of subdomains of your Tier1?
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  • Profile picture of the author sconlinemarketing
    I don't know. That is why I started this thread. That is what he is teaching and I wanted to know if that is a good plan or not. It made no sense to me.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dr los3
      Subdomains are the same thing as subdirectories.

      cats.animals.com v animals.com/cats

      theyre the same thing, so in essence you're just..building..a...website..and linking..to..your...money site..
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by sconlinemarketing View Post

      I don't know. That is why I started this thread. That is what he is teaching and I wanted to know if that is a good plan or not. It made no sense to me.
      More detail to why I think its crazy.

      There are a ton of programs that easily recognize the root domain of a subdomain. Its easy. So when you blast your subdomain the links pointing to it can easily be seen to be all to the same root. Thats the first problem

      To claim thats similiar to a real PBN is a joke.

      second potential problem I see is that we often forget the internet at the computer level doesn't care a fig leaf about URLs we use. It goes by things like IP addresses and folders.

      I just can't see Google not being able to see that you are blasting essentially a folder on your hosting account. No one knows the tools Google has in house and this person is assuming that they cannot detect that you are link spamming your hosting account. Creating a subdomain is NOT exactly like having a separate website - not by a long shot.

      This to me is just a gimmick to save a few dollars a month on hosting and some domain registrations or you would keep the hosting space you are link blasting completely off your money site location
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    Does anyone else have any thoughts on this? Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author accessted
    I think he was saying you do not have to purchase domains or anything to do it with. So not sure if he is linking to your money site "directory" or not. I may have missed something. I only watched the video and did not buy in ...
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  • Profile picture of the author SEOWizard417
    Linking to your PBN sites with sub domains from the same PBN sites? Can't see how that would be effective.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by accessted View Post

      I think he was saying you do not have to purchase domains or anything to do it with. So not sure if he is linking to your money site "directory" or not.
      Originally Posted by SEOWizard417 View Post

      Linking to your PBN sites with sub domains from the same PBN sites? Can't see how that would be effective.
      Aaaaaaaah I misread it (haven't had the time to watch the video). I thought he meant subdomains on the money site were tier1s. Still he must be dealing withsome weak stuff. Real PBNs don't need to be juiced up .
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    I'm not sure why anyone would consider a sub-domain as a tiered link, the sub-domain is still part of a the root domain & can show up in a site:domain search on Google SERPs. If you have a reason other than PBN to use a sub-domain, fine, do it.

    Example, look at all the sub-domains while searching for a root domain:
    • site:about.com

    My bet is If the sub-domain becomes tainted from the crappy links it's getting passed over to the root domain during any slap. I haven't tested that scenario but I don't see any other way out of it (...again site:domain.com).

    At least with another domain you can shut down all the links & drop the connection between the two domains. The difference between dropping another domain & sub-domain (If needed) is Google knows 100% you own the sub-domain without even researching anything.
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Nguyen
      Why does anyone need to do tier links...so many seo's read into link wheels and crazy tier 3 thinking that a complex structure will actually make your seo good. Waste of time.

      In the time someone created 2 /3 tiers and ordered their web2.0 and blog comments, I've ordered 1 article guest post from a "strong" website (I have my metric which they must qualify) and I'm done.

      Don't complicate your SEO.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
        Originally Posted by Michael Nguyen View Post

        In the time someone created 2 /3 tiers and ordered their web2.0 and blog comments, I've ordered 1 article guest post from a "strong" website (I have my metric which they must qualify) and I'm done.
        But but but .....Isn't guest hosting supposed to be dead ????
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  • Profile picture of the author godoveryou
    Los3,

    Subdomains are not the same thing as subdirectories, they are treated completely differently in fact, which is why so many large sites moved from a subdomain structure to a subdirectory structure. Subdirectories, or anything to the right of the root domain shares pagerank assets with that root domain. Subdomains, or anything to the left of the root domain is a whole new asset. It's also the reason the most highly sought after web 2.0's are the ones with the page structure to the right of the root domain.

    That having been said, this "strategy" is nothing new. Link spammers have been doing it for years to artificially inflated the root domain's pagerank. I haven't done it in years myself but once upon a time you could inflate your root domain's pagerank up to 4 by using a few thousand autoblogs on the subdomains... Not sure that I would do that with a pbn site I cared about though and beyond that the formula for calculating pagerank has undoubtedly changed since that point in time.

    It could work in theory.... but I would go there unless we were talking about a "toy" site that I didn't care about.

    Is this guy out there selling a "trick" from 6 years ago as a new awesome technique. LOL
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