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It doesn't make sense at all that google "penalizes" bad links.

by Egyfitness
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I see a lot in SEO articles , that says google "punishes" or "penalizes" or "Devalues" websites that use un-natural links !!

First of all , I notice on Ahrefs that some junk forums spam my website articles all over thei websites. Yesterday I found new 300 inbound backlinks to my website!

And suppose that this is true.. Wouldn't it be easy to hire some guy from fiverr that spread my Competitor links on dozens of these link farms ?? So I can harm my competitor with $5. ?

Or google leaves this to websites owners morals and ethics ?

Does google say some where : "please don't spam ur competitor links , so we don't punish him for no reason" ?
#bad #google #links #make #penalizes #sense
  • Profile picture of the author paulgl
    There are only 2 real penalties, a deindex and drop in PR.

    Google does not just go around deindexing crap or stuff with crap links.
    It's much, much more than that. Like you said, it would then be easy to
    penalize wikipedia, amazon, etc. But they don't get penalized in that
    way. Why?

    Because they have built authoritative sites, as all other big authoritative sites.

    I set out long ago to emulate amazon, gasbuddy, etc. Why people
    are afraid to, I have no idea.

    You can be immune to people dong stupid stuff. That's what google tells you.
    Even when you do stupid stuff yourself, like jcpenney. They did not suffer a
    deindex. Google would have been stupid to do that. Instead, links were not counted,
    and the NATURAL result that followed was a direct result of losing links.

    It's rather stupid to waste time doing stupid stuff.

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    • Profile picture of the author Egyfitness
      Yes Paul , thats what I am saying. Google just ignores bad links. Theydon't penalize for it as people claim.
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      • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
        Originally Posted by Egyfitness View Post

        Yes Paul , thats what I am saying. Google just ignores bad links. Theydon't penalize for it as people claim.
        Yeah, well that is not true at all. Google clearly penalizes sites for bad links.
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        • Profile picture of the author Egyfitness
          Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

          Yeah, well that is not true at all. Google clearly penalizes sites for bad links.
          Google penalizes websites for bad inbound links ?
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          • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
            Originally Posted by Egyfitness View Post

            Google penalizes websites for bad inbound links ?
            Yes. It has been going on for a few years now. Since the first Penguin update.
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            • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
              2014 and people are still in denial

              Google Unnatural Links Manual Penalty: A Recovery Guide - SEW

              The Definitive Guide To Google Manual Actions And Penalties - Forbes


              I also have no idea what Paul is claiming

              There are only 2 real penalties, a deindex and drop in PR.
              Thats a ton load of pure nonsense. You can be penalized in search position. The reason why spammy links will not hurt many sites is because they have a good link profile BEYOND the spammy links. However for the average Imer who does not have ton loads of organic high authority links yes negative SEO is possible

              sheesh. Its like this thread and its posts were written 3-4 years ago when everyone swore Google would never allow negative SEO.
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            • Profile picture of the author Primeplus1
              Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

              Yes. It has been going on for a few years now. Since the first Penguin update.
              But is it so much "bad" inbound links as opposed to spam?

              For example, someone targeting the keyword "high performance sprints". They have this in their url and only use this one keyword in ALL anchor text with no diversity.

              Wouldn't it be the spam that is being penalized as opposed to bad links? or are you referring to them both as the same?
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          • Profile picture of the author sweezeter
            Originally Posted by Egyfitness View Post

            Google penalizes websites for bad inbound links ?
            Of course! Google tries to claim that you can't penalize a competitor but then goes to tell you that you can receive a penalty yourself.

            Google doesn't know the difference of whether or not I created a link to your site or you did. A competitor can make it look like you built the links and Google wouldn't know one way or another.

            So yes, as long as you can be penalized for inbound links a competitor in theory could cause a penalty for your links as well.
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    • Profile picture of the author danparks
      Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

      Google does not just go around deindexing crap or stuff with crap links.
      It's much, much more than that. Like you said, it would then be easy to
      penalize wikipedia, amazon, etc. But they don't get penalized in that
      way. Why?

      Because they have built authoritative sites, as all other big authoritative sites.

      I set out long ago to emulate amazon, gasbuddy, etc. Why people
      are afraid to, I have no idea.

      You can be immune to people dong stupid stuff.
      Sure, building an authority site is best. I agree, developing a great backlink profile makes a site much more immune to effects of many newly added bad links (negative SEO). But it takes time to create an authority site. What about the guy just starting a site? How long will it take him to develop a solid, powerful backlink profile that will dilute a splurge of bad backlinks? A long time. In the mean time, what if someone hits the site with many thousands of bad backlinks? What can that person do about that? Nothing. Sometimes negative SEO works, sometimes it doesn't. For the guy who has a young site, he might get burned by negative SEO and there's nothing he could have done about it. I've seen it happen.

      Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

      Yeah, well that is not true at all. Google clearly penalizes sites for bad links.
      They do, unquestionably. I think the people who don't believe this are people who never saw it happen first hand. I've seen it a couple of times. There was absolutely nothing either site owner could have done to prevent it happening. They didn't have time to build up thousands of quality links which may have been enough to shake off the effect of the negative SEO.
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  • Profile picture of the author TotalWebsiteControl
    There are in fact more then just 2 penalties for bad seo. And yes spammy backlinks with high OBL will result in negative seo if pointed directly to your money site. If you plan on using spammy backlinks (which you shouldn't if you value your website) is to point these links at like your tier 3 links or more.
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