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Forum: Copywriting 4th February 2013, 03:59 PM
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Posted By Rezbi
Re: Is NLP Utter Hogwash?

I have one of his courses.

What a voice. Makes Sylvester Stallone sound like a squeaky mouse.
Forum: Copywriting 4th February 2013, 04:46 AM
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Views: 13,755
Posted By Rezbi
Re: Is NLP Utter Hogwash?

Actually, now you mention it, that was a response to something else. Not meant for this thread.

What an idiot I am. I-yyam, I-yyam, I-yyam. :confused:
Forum: Copywriting 3rd February 2013, 04:25 PM
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Views: 13,755
Posted By Rezbi
Re: Is NLP Utter Hogwash?

12 Scientific Findings That Were Actually Faked

12 Scientific Hoaxes - Business Insider (http://www.businessinsider.com/12-scientific-hoaxes-2013-1)

Yes, science can be faked, depending on the...
Forum: Copywriting 3rd February 2013, 12:36 AM
Replies: 184
Views: 13,755
Posted By Rezbi
Re: Is NLP Utter Hogwash?

I'll admit it openly...

I'm being purposely aggressive. I don't really care one way or the other.

Each to their own.
Forum: Copywriting 2nd February 2013, 11:38 PM
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Views: 13,755
Posted By Rezbi
Re: Is NLP Utter Hogwash?

Aha. There you go.

Too many people put up references to other sources without bothering to check them out.

And here I thought copywriters were thorough in their research.

Maybe not.

Looks...
Forum: Copywriting 2nd February 2013, 11:11 PM
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Posted By Rezbi
Re: Is NLP Utter Hogwash?

Well, if that's anything to go by, there's a few there which seem to give NLP more credibility than wikipedia.

Have you read any of them?
Forum: Copywriting 2nd February 2013, 09:37 PM
Replies: 184
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Posted By Rezbi
Re: Is NLP Utter Hogwash?

If that's the type of rubbish 'grown-ups' write I don't want to site at their arrogance filled table.

You just have to look at all the rubbish that's been out in the media - 'backed up by science'...
Forum: Copywriting 2nd February 2013, 08:08 PM
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Views: 13,755
Posted By Rezbi
Re: Is NLP Utter Hogwash?

Actually, NLP in its original form - as far as I know - was used to model success.

What Bandler and Grinder did was to model Erickson. If you think about it, they would need to have come up with...
Forum: Copywriting 2nd February 2013, 04:09 PM
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Posted By Rezbi
Re: Is NLP Utter Hogwash?

Did I say you did?

Read my post again and see if you understand.

Although I started a thread defending NLP, I will say I've come across many NLP practitioners who are very arrogant and think...
Forum: Copywriting 2nd February 2013, 12:32 PM
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Posted By Rezbi
Re: Is NLP Utter Hogwash?

Maybe you should learn some NLP... and brevity for that matter.

First you say...



and then you call this thread a...
Forum: Copywriting 22nd January 2013, 03:45 AM
Replies: 184
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Posted By Rezbi
Re: Is NLP Utter Hogwash?

What do you mean by source material?

Are you saying someone has to say it's a science to make it so, or it's not?

That's not my understanding of how something is classified as a science. Unless...
Forum: Copywriting 21st January 2013, 04:41 PM
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Posted By Rezbi
Re: Is NLP Utter Hogwash?

Ah, but he is. You just have to read between the lines.

I did start such a thread - one I was going to continue with further articles - but it was moved to a different forum.

I thought it was...
Forum: Copywriting 21st January 2013, 04:30 PM
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Posted By Rezbi
Re: Is NLP Utter Hogwash?

And that's what makes it so fun.

Anyone who has a passion about anything will do the same. Whether it's martial, copywriting, NLP or... tiddlywinks.
Forum: Copywriting 21st January 2013, 03:22 PM
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Posted By Rezbi
Re: Is NLP Utter Hogwash?

I actually used to dislike Harlan for this reason. But it doesn't bother me anymore.

I'm more interested in what he, and others, have to say rather than how they say.

If they want to be the...
Forum: Copywriting 21st January 2013, 03:20 PM
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Posted By Rezbi
Re: Is NLP Utter Hogwash?

I already said that.

And my reason for the post was to promote discussion.

No one is ever going to agree on everything. And not everyone will ever agree on one thing.

You get this type of...
Forum: Copywriting 21st January 2013, 08:14 AM
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Views: 13,755
Posted By Rezbi
Re: Is NLP Utter Hogwash?

If a little research is enough, and makes up for years of study, then anyone should be able to research a particular market and write copy like Bencivenga.

Right?

I don't think anyone would...
Forum: Copywriting 18th January 2013, 04:41 PM
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Posted By Rezbi
Re: Is NLP Utter Hogwash?

Nah.

I know I've laid into you before, but I say it like I see it. And I'll continue to do so.

If I think you're doing something wrong I'll say so. Conversely, if I see you do something right...
Forum: Copywriting 18th January 2013, 02:57 AM
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Posted By Rezbi
Re: Is NLP Utter Hogwash?

So where in that post did I claim it's NLP, huh, clever clogs?

If you're going to accuse someone of trolling get your facts straight.
Forum: Copywriting 17th January 2013, 07:10 PM
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Posted By Rezbi
Re: Is NLP Utter Hogwash?

At the risk of ending this thread - it's long enough - the penny drops.

I used this subject with the specific intention of getting a lot of comments.

I knew this would get emotional responses...
Forum: Copywriting 13th January 2013, 05:40 PM
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Posted By Rezbi
Re: Is NLP Utter Hogwash?

There's a lot I could say here, but I'm tired and need to sleep.

However, I do want to thank you for pointing out Noam Chomsky on language.

I'm a fan of some of some of his work. I didn't know...
Forum: Copywriting 13th January 2013, 05:10 PM
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Posted By Rezbi
Re: Is NLP Utter Hogwash?

You're right.

Gary Bencivenga refused to do any courses or seminars until he was ready to retire.

Even I, a lowly copywriter, keep a few things back. Things I'll only be teaching in my upcoming...
Forum: Copywriting 13th January 2013, 05:04 PM
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Posted By Rezbi
Re: Is NLP Utter Hogwash?

From that same interview:



Kinda like what I've been saying.

I never said NLP is the be-all and end-all.

First and foremost I'm a copywriter who has studied pretty much all the greats...
Forum: Copywriting 13th January 2013, 04:57 PM
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Views: 13,755
Posted By Rezbi
Re: Is NLP Utter Hogwash?

Really?

I studied IT. I have ability in IT. And IT is a technology.

And I'm pretty sure that's not restricted to IT.

Try rethinking that sentence.

No one could come up with a one sentence...
Forum: Copywriting 13th January 2013, 07:01 AM
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Posted By Rezbi
Re: Is NLP Utter Hogwash?

Someone who gets my take on this whole thing.
Forum: Copywriting 12th January 2013, 09:49 PM
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Posted By Rezbi
Re: Is NLP Utter Hogwash?

And I'm just asking you to back up your claim that you've done your homework.

From past evidence, that would be a miracle, too.
Forum: Copywriting 12th January 2013, 07:42 PM
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Views: 13,755
Posted By Rezbi
Re: Is NLP Utter Hogwash?

You strength, as always, is that it's easy to deny and denigrate something without proof than it is to prove something without showing proof.

You're always expecting someone else to do your...
Forum: Copywriting 11th January 2013, 05:41 PM
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Views: 13,755
Posted By Rezbi
Re: Is NLP Utter Hogwash?

That is a fantastic thread.

If Rick Duris is okay with it, I'm going to compile all his posts from it and create a pdf of it for my own use.
Forum: Copywriting 11th January 2013, 05:35 PM
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Posted By Rezbi
Re: Is NLP Utter Hogwash?

Not you again.

Can't you think of something else to trash?

Leave NLP alone.
Forum: Copywriting 11th January 2013, 04:22 PM
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Views: 13,755
Posted By Rezbi
Re: Is NLP Utter Hogwash?

You make a valid point. Especially in the brackets, because that's exactly how I felt for a long time.

Even though I was exposed to NLP about 20 odd years ago, I dismissed it because of people...
Forum: Copywriting 11th January 2013, 03:19 PM
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Views: 13,755
Posted By Rezbi
Re: Is NLP Utter Hogwash?

Really?

Have you even bothered to read all of my posts?

I usually gather the evidence before making judgement.

You should try it.
Forum: Copywriting 11th January 2013, 08:15 AM
Replies: 184
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Posted By Rezbi
Re: Is NLP Utter Hogwash?

Isn't that what I've been saying?

All you've done is confirm that.
Forum: Copywriting 10th January 2013, 05:52 PM
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Views: 13,755
Posted By Rezbi
Re: Is NLP Utter Hogwash?

Maybe getting into semantics here, but weren't all the terms being used now non-existent at one time or another?

It's how it's all put together that makes the difference.

Personally, I think...
Forum: Copywriting 10th January 2013, 04:25 PM
Replies: 184
Views: 13,755
Posted By Rezbi
Re: Is NLP Utter Hogwash?

Got any examples of these proven con artists and hacks?

The thing to remember is there's nothing magic about NLP.

I find so many of the patterns in NLP already being used by the top...
Forum: Copywriting 10th January 2013, 09:23 AM
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Views: 13,755
Posted By Rezbi
Re: Is NLP Utter Hogwash?

In that case, if you go to the site, there's a guy, Clive Cable, who can answer that question for you. Just ask in the comments.

And I didn't mean you asked for an opinion here. I meant if you...
Forum: Copywriting 10th January 2013, 08:56 AM
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Views: 13,755
Posted By Rezbi
Re: Is NLP Utter Hogwash?

Any well constructed sales copy can do the same. It doesn't NLP by name.

Persuasion is persuasion regardless of what you call.

You can use it ethically or unethically. It's up to you.

And...
Forum: Copywriting 10th January 2013, 07:22 AM
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Views: 13,755
Posted By Rezbi
Re: Is NLP Utter Hogwash?

:D

Check out what I said about him and Grinder in the top post.
Forum: Copywriting 10th January 2013, 06:53 AM
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Posted By Rezbi
Re: Is NLP Utter Hogwash?

I agree.

But you can discriminate and keep away from them.

It's why I refuse to even listen to some of the dark side stuff.
Forum: Copywriting 10th January 2013, 06:52 AM
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Posted By Rezbi
Re: Is NLP Utter Hogwash?

Those are not opinions. They're questions about what NLP is and what patterns are.

Read it again.

And I wasn't having a go at him. Just advising some ways to learn.
Forum: Copywriting 10th January 2013, 05:34 AM
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Views: 13,755
Posted By Rezbi
Re: Is NLP Utter Hogwash?

The way I learn things is not by asking others. I learn by studying.

Like copywriting, if you ask for opinions, you will get opinions.

And not all those opinions will be informed.
Forum: Copywriting 10th January 2013, 04:16 AM
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Posted By Rezbi
Is NLP Utter Hogwash?

I wrote an article after an email exchange with Drayton Bird (with his permission, of course).

He insists there's nothing to NLP persuasion in copywriting. I, and a few others disagree.

There's...
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