Go Back   WarriorForum - Internet Marketing Forums > The Warrior Forum > Social Media Marketing Forum
Register Blogs FAQ Social Groups CalendarHelp Desk

Reply
 
Share
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 09-19-2012, 04:45 AM   #1
Cyberspace Cowboy
War Room Member
 
David Braybrooke's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Sydney, Australia.
Posts: 325
Thanks: 227
Thanked 83 Times in 55 Posts
Social Networking View Member's Myspace Profile  View Member's FaceBook Profile  View Member's Twitter Profile  View Member's YouTube Profile
Contact Info
Send a message via Skype™ to David Braybrooke
Default Marketing trends for 2013 & beyond. Email list extinctions as social media reigns!

This article fascinated me! Marketing Trends for 2013 and beyond 2013 « INSIDE A MARKETING MIND: BLOG BY GARETH CASE

Why am I ALWAYS being told to 'grow an email list' then!!???

David Braybrooke is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2012, 04:52 AM   #2
Success is a Choice
War Room Member
 
icoachu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 886
Thanks: 23
Thanked 127 Times in 108 Posts
Default Re: Marketing trends for 2013 & beyond. Email list extinctions as social media reigns!

Social media send decent traffic but people shouldn't limit themselves to those sources. The key is to build a massive traffic river from many small streams. Also, nothing COMES CLOSE to email's power to turn TEMPORARY traffic into a PERMANENT pool of message recipients (of course, many opt out but the pool remains as you replenish it constantly.)

icoachu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2012, 04:53 AM   #3
Online Entrepreneur
War Room Member
 
JoeyXoto's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: London
Posts: 187
Thanks: 1
Thanked 59 Times in 46 Posts
Social Networking View Member's FaceBook Profile  View Member's Twitter Profile 
Contact Info
Send a message via Skype™ to JoeyXoto
Default Re: Marketing trends for 2013 & beyond. Email list extinctions as social media reigns!

Hey cool article, however I don't know if I really agree.

"Goodbye E-Mail (well, almost)" ; exactly; well almost.

Facebook is never, EVER going to replace Email, neither is any other social platform IMO. Businesses will always need a professional platform to communicate. B2B companies need ways of communicating in a fast efficient matter daily; videos and social media isn't the way forward for that. (I no it's based on consumer marketing, but still.) So you might say "well we can have a professional social network then?" Nope, tried and tested and we still use Emails to this day (Linked In).

Maybe in 5-10 years something different might come along, but email marketing is a beast and still works very much so today like it did 5 years ago, and will do in 5 years. Everything is a numbers game really; if you have a 20,000 person list, your always going to make sales - if not with the first OTO, maybe the 2nd.

Just an opinion though. What do I no!

Are You A Struggling Newbie Trying To Make Money Online? If You're Not...
> DON'T CLICK THIS LINK <

JoeyXoto is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2012, 07:52 AM   #4
Foul mouth marketer...
War Room Member
 
Manie Amari's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: London/United Kingdom
Posts: 535
Thanks: 98
Thanked 158 Times in 118 Posts
Social Networking View Member's FaceBook Profile  View Member's Twitter Profile  View Member's YouTube Profile
Default Re: Marketing trends for 2013 & beyond. Email list extinctions as social media reigns!

Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeyXoto View Post
Everything is a numbers game really; if you have a 20,000 person list, your always going to make sales - if not with the first OTO, maybe the 2nd.
I agree, however, for those newcomers believing that bigger is better it really is not in regards to email marketing.

It's all about the relationships and the connection you build with your list.

A marketer with a 2,000 list size could make a lot more income with his/her list than another marketer with a 20,000 list size.

For exmaple the latter could make 1,000 for a $47 product and make close 50K, however the former could make 500 (half) sales for a $497 product and make 250K.


Just my 2 cents (or pence for you brits)


Manie


Simple Strategy that anyone can do<<<

look over my shoulder and copying what I do. Btw it's FREE...
Manie Amari is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2012, 08:28 AM   #5
ReviewSentry.Net
War Room Member
 
Rus Sells's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 3,093
Blog Entries: 3
Thanks: 915
Thanked 1,275 Times in 719 Posts
Social Networking View Member's FaceBook Profile 
Contact Info
Send a message via Skype™ to Rus Sells
Default Re: Marketing trends for 2013 & beyond. Email list extinctions as social media reigns!

Says the expert who has a blog on wordpress. Hmm. I can't agree with the author. Nothing beats a well engaged, targeted email list.
Rus Sells is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2012, 12:16 PM   #6
Senior Warrior Member
War Room Member
 
JMichaelZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: California Desert
Posts: 2,003
Blog Entries: 13
Thanks: 543
Thanked 404 Times in 354 Posts
Default Re: Marketing trends for 2013 & beyond. Email list extinctions as social media reigns!

Here is the most important line in this article:

"In my opinion, the future of successful marketing lies in the hands of social media. . . "

The rest of the article is stats from the past, and guesses about the future.

Get real fans that Facebook loves.
Click Here Now
Facebook Fanpage SuperCharger




JMichaelZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2012, 12:57 PM   #7
Dare To Be Different
War Room Member
 
ExRat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: U.K.
Posts: 9,140
Thanks: 1,559
Thanked 3,153 Times in 1,192 Posts
Default Re: Marketing trends for 2013 & beyond. Email list extinctions as social media reigns!

Hi David,

Quote:
Originally Posted by David Braybrooke View Post
This article fascinated me! Marketing Trends for 2013 and beyond 2013 « INSIDE A MARKETING MIND: BLOG BY GARETH CASE

Why am I ALWAYS being told to 'grow an email list' then!!???
It's not complicated - growing an email list is a good advice to give.

For example, I saw this quote recently on a blog which you yourself may be familiar with -

Quote:
Luckily for us, money making opportunities on the Internet are growing in number all the time.
The internet is full of different opportunities and differing opinions. Is it any surprise that some people end up confused when there are so many different opportunities and opinions?

Some (many) people choose to frame their opinions in a way which suggests that the growth of one thing has to mean the death of another.

They're just seeking attention and attempting to brand themselves as a thought leader, which of course (confusingly) is the only sensible approach. They're often making statements which are misleading or based on false assumptions, for a variety of reasons.

For example, in the article you linked to the author says -

Quote:
Our customers (on the whole) are social, so we must be also.
I think it depends what market you are in. I know of many markets where the customers are totally 'unsocial' when it comes to making purchases on the internet and so they should be.

If you take each article, comment or opinion online literally and as gospel truth (including mine) then you will end up confused by the inevitable mass of contradictions.

Everyone on the internet apparently 'knows the secret', 'has the answers', as well as 'the secret formula' and is just about to tell you 'why you are failing'. The internet is approximately 3% useful and 97% nonsense - therefore the only skill that really counts when seeking information is the ability to quickly sift through haystacks of dross to find a few needles of useful stuff.

Hope this helps.

Last edited by ExRat; 09-19-2012 at 12:58 PM. Reason: quoted the wrong post.....doh!
ExRat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2012, 01:00 PM   #8
HyperActive Warrior
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: NYC
Posts: 336
Thanks: 36
Thanked 53 Times in 41 Posts
Social Networking View Member's FaceBook Profile  View Member's Twitter Profile  View Member's YouTube Profile
Contact Info
Send a message via Skype™ to MarketingMinded
Default Re: Marketing trends for 2013 & beyond. Email list extinctions as social media reigns!

Articles like this are laughable.

Answer this, if social media is going to "kill" email then how do they all require your email when you sign up?

Email > Social Media

MarketingMinded is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2012, 01:05 PM   #9
Smooth Operator
War Room Member
 
JDIZM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Manchester, UK
Posts: 130
Thanks: 13
Thanked 13 Times in 13 Posts
Default Re: Marketing trends for 2013 & beyond. Email list extinctions as social media reigns!

Quote:
Originally Posted by MarketingMinded View Post
Articles like this are laughable.

Answer this, if social media is going to "kill" email then how do they all require your email when you sign up?

Email > Social Media
Exactly, I was just about to say the same thing. Every single website requires an email to login and until that changes people are still going to read those messages. You just need to make sure you get the message to the right inbox.

I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work. - Thomas A. Edison
JDIZM
JDIZM is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2012, 06:09 PM   #10
Cyberspace Cowboy
War Room Member
 
David Braybrooke's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Sydney, Australia.
Posts: 325
Thanks: 227
Thanked 83 Times in 55 Posts
Social Networking View Member's Myspace Profile  View Member's FaceBook Profile  View Member's Twitter Profile  View Member's YouTube Profile
Contact Info
Send a message via Skype™ to David Braybrooke
Default Re: Marketing trends for 2013 & beyond. Email list extinctions as social media reigns!

Quote:
Originally Posted by MarketingMinded View Post
Articles like this are laughable.

Answer this, if social media is going to "kill" email then how do they all require your email when you sign up?

Email > Social Media
Point taken, but I find that my email is so overloaded with postings that I automatically do my own filtering and ignore most emails. I'm arguing that people in general are becoming increasingly immune to email content. Feel free to disagree.

David Braybrooke is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2012, 06:46 PM   #11
HyperActive Warrior
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: NYC
Posts: 336
Thanks: 36
Thanked 53 Times in 41 Posts
Social Networking View Member's FaceBook Profile  View Member's Twitter Profile  View Member's YouTube Profile
Contact Info
Send a message via Skype™ to MarketingMinded
Default Re: Marketing trends for 2013 & beyond. Email list extinctions as social media reigns!

Quote:
Originally Posted by David Braybrooke View Post
Point taken, but I find that my email is so overloaded with postings that I automatically do my own filtering and ignore most emails. I'm arguing that people in general are becoming increasingly immune to email content. Feel free to disagree.
People are becoming increasingly immune to ALL content. It's a commodity.

The one thing that people will never become immune to? remarkable content

Remarkable (Value) is a universal currency that everyone recognizes no matter the medium. Crap will always be crap. You can't generalize email or anything like that for that matter.

MarketingMinded is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2012, 06:56 PM   #12
Cyberspace Cowboy
War Room Member
 
David Braybrooke's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Sydney, Australia.
Posts: 325
Thanks: 227
Thanked 83 Times in 55 Posts
Social Networking View Member's Myspace Profile  View Member's FaceBook Profile  View Member's Twitter Profile  View Member's YouTube Profile
Contact Info
Send a message via Skype™ to David Braybrooke
Default Re: Marketing trends for 2013 & beyond. Email list extinctions as social media reigns!

Quote:
Originally Posted by MarketingMinded View Post
People are becoming increasingly immune to ALL content. It's a commodity.

The one thing that people will never become immune to? remarkable content

Remarkable (Value) is a universal currency that everyone recognizes no matter the medium. Crap will always be crap. You can't generalize email or anything like that for that matter.
Email has had longer to establish its 'spam' reputation. Unsubscribing from multiple lists can be tiresome and ongoing. Facebook and Twitter and other social media? Unfriend, block, delete. Simple.

David Braybrooke is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2012, 07:07 PM   #13
Cyberspace Cowboy
War Room Member
 
David Braybrooke's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Sydney, Australia.
Posts: 325
Thanks: 227
Thanked 83 Times in 55 Posts
Social Networking View Member's Myspace Profile  View Member's FaceBook Profile  View Member's Twitter Profile  View Member's YouTube Profile
Contact Info
Send a message via Skype™ to David Braybrooke
Default Re: Marketing trends for 2013 & beyond. Email list extinctions as social media reigns!

Here is another page to consider. I'm still undecided overall but am happy to be persuaded. It

David Braybrooke is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2012, 07:15 PM   #14
Senior Warrior Member
War Room Member
 
JMichaelZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: California Desert
Posts: 2,003
Blog Entries: 13
Thanks: 543
Thanked 404 Times in 354 Posts
Default Re: Marketing trends for 2013 & beyond. Email list extinctions as social media reigns!

Quote:
Originally Posted by David Braybrooke View Post
Point taken, but I find that my email is so overloaded with postings that I automatically do my own filtering and ignore most emails. I'm arguing that people in general are becoming increasingly immune to email content. Feel free to disagree.
Perhaps your experience is not typical for most people. I am not finding this at all with my email lists. On occasion, not too often, though, I get people thanking me for sending them to buy a product I am recommending.

But I don't think that means that everybody is thanking me for sending them emails.

If you like social media, fine, have at it. But this article you are citing states specifically that it is the author's opinion, nothing more. He's got some reports of figures, but until you take a survey or a statistically significant group of people, as to what their habits are, you don't really have anything except some guy's opinion he wrote in February.

Get real fans that Facebook loves.
Click Here Now
Facebook Fanpage SuperCharger




JMichaelZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2012, 07:18 PM   #15
Advanced Warrior
War Room Member
 
Thomas Michal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Posts: 768
Thanks: 85
Thanked 253 Times in 126 Posts
Default Re: Marketing trends for 2013 & beyond. Email list extinctions as social media reigns!

Email dead? yeah... ok.

Read this Is Email Dead?

Thomas Michal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-20-2012, 07:14 PM   #16
HyperActive Warrior
War Room Member
 
sadneck's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 157
Thanks: 107
Thanked 29 Times in 22 Posts
Default Re: Marketing trends for 2013 & beyond. Email list extinctions as social media reigns!

Because it works buddy...

My list is a decent size, and whether I am sending out a notification on a webinar, OR a new product, I always get a good response.

I will grow my list forever and I treat those guys like gold, (I cry when one leaves me.)

If you want, I'll post a picture of the tears.... :P

Andrew

Quote:
Originally Posted by David Braybrooke View Post
This article fascinated me! Marketing Trends for 2013 and beyond 2013 « INSIDE A MARKETING MIND: BLOG BY GARETH CASE

Why am I ALWAYS being told to 'grow an email list' then!!???


Video Marketing Robot
- Upload to 100+ Video Websites!
sadneck is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply

  WarriorForum - Internet Marketing Forums > The Warrior Forum > Social Media Marketing Forum

Bookmarks

Tags
2013, email, extinctions, list, marketing, media, reigns, social, trends

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:22 PM.