Banned from twitter much?

oldgamesware

14 years ago

I don't use twitter much. I know some friends who are banned at their site without any prior reasons.

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grayambition

14 years ago

Originally Posted by jminkler

1) Multiple accounts - not sure how this pertained as some accounts from my domain didn't get banned so no idea.

2) Posting mostly the same link, no personal updates

Now, here's what I was doing .. I wrote a script to do three things ..
1) Add 15 followers per DAY based on hashtag
2) Unfollow anybody that didn't follow the next day
3) Tweet 5 items (the same items) over the course of a week

So, what I'm aggravated with is the way in which Twitter just "randomly" picks these accounts to ban rather than apply the rules to EVERYONE.

Anyone have any similar experiences or other thoughts? And by the way, I think twittering is probably the worst way to market something.

I'm sorry you're "aggravated." On second thought, not so much. :rolleyes:

Get a clue.

You blatantly violated Twitter's TOS. It's not complicated. They told you exactly why they banned you, and then you came in here and whined about it.

From Twitter Support : The Twitter Rules

You may not use the Twitter service for the purpose of spamming anyone. What constitutes “spamming” will evolve as we respond to new tricks and tactics by spammers. Some of the factors that we take into account when determining what conduct is considered to be spamming are:

# If you have a small number of followers compared to the amount of people you are following;
# If your updates consist mainly of links, and not personal updates;
# If you post misleading links;
# If a large number of people are blocking you;
# The number of spam complaints that have been filed against you;
# If you post duplicate content over multiple accounts or multiple duplicate updates on one account

You said yourself that your tweets were ALL links without personal updates. Not only all links, but all THE SAME link.

Given that, I would imagine that quite a few people have blocked you and/or issued spam complaints.

You're upset that there are accounts that do what you're doing that haven't been banned? You think it's all random?

It's not. Twitter is trying to clean up their system, just like Paul (and I assume others) are trying to do here at WF. It's a massive task, due to the sheer numbers of clueless twits who think rules are for others. As Paul has said many times, it's a process, and there are priorities. Why they got to you before others, I can't say. But that doesn't make it wrong or unfair that you were banned. Don't worry, they'll get to the others. And they'll get to the rest of yours, too, assuming you continue to use the same system.

Oh...and you think "twittering is the very worst way to market something." Very true, the way you've been doing it.

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jminkler

10 years ago

Originally Posted by grayambition

I'm sorry you're "aggravated." On second thought, not so much. :rolleyes:

Get a clue.

You blatantly violated Twitter's TOS. It's not complicated. They told you exactly why they banned you, and then you came in here and whined about it.

From Twitter Support : The Twitter Rules

You said yourself that your tweets were ALL links without personal updates. Not only all links, but all THE SAME link.

Given that, I would imagine that quite a few people have blocked you and/or issued spam complaints.

You're upset that there are accounts that do what you're doing that haven't been banned? You think it's all random?

It's not. Twitter is trying to clean up their system, just like Paul (and I assume others) are trying to do here at WF. It's a massive task, due to the sheer numbers of clueless twits who think rules are for others. As Paul has said many times, it's a process, and there are priorities. Why they got to you before others, I can't say. But that doesn't make it wrong or unfair that you were banned. Don't worry, they'll get to the others. And they'll get to the rest of yours, too, assuming you continue to use the same system.

Oh...and you think "twittering is the very worst way to market something." Very true, the way you've been doing it.

Somehow missed all these great replies. @grayambition :

Perhaps you don't know or realize how the entire internet operates. Let's start with Google. Google has a search engine, stay with me here

, and charges for placements on its engine, and ANY affiliate (publisher) site. Anyone who wants to run an ad here, can (and will), buy space. However, even the mighty Google up on its "no spam, spam is evil" pedestal spams on twitter (see its account for it's new venture Helpouts). Why? Social is the Buzz, but many of the "actual users" of twitter as @DogScout has pointed out, just aren't "real" or are doing what everybody else is doing and joining follow trains. Now, let's get back to the search engine they have, and adwords, and their old "Google Affiliate Network" -GAN

Why do businesses advertise? Why do businesses buy keywords for their own site name? To take up space of course, or get in the user's face of course. Here's where it gets complicated though, the GAN made people put up pages to promote products - landing pages. Yet, these pages would rarely get approved to buy keywords for, why? The other half of google considered it "spam".

Now, lets get back to Twitter and banning, applying what we learned. Why is twitter bad to market on (Even if done right?) ... nobody will ever "hear" your message, unless you @ them. But what does @'d someone get considered as? Yes, you guessed it - spam.

Many of the Affiliate networks and companies who offer affiliate programs have RSS feeds of jobs/coupons/deals .. What else is to be done with these? Would your really ever dream of making real income by writing a long winded blog post for every one of these? No, these are bit sized data bits, designed for drive-by marketing.

Proof? Look at MyLikes and the other twitter ad networks, do you really think these companies would survive if not for so called "spam" ? People click things, without thinking.

"Besides, buying 'stuff' does make the world go around and creating a micro blogging platform is almost perfect for that method."

If there was no "buying stuff" there wouldn't be a purpose for the internet, and thats all the big companies do, get you to buy their stuff ..

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ForumGuru Banned 10 years ago

Originally Posted by jminkler

If there was no "buying stuff" there wouldn't be a purpose for the internet

Wrong answer. Next time try following more closely the terms and conditions of the website whose members you are spamming.

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JayXtreme

14 years ago

You might wanna read this:

Twitter Support : The Twitter Rules

And remember... Third party sites can always shut you down at the click of a button. It's their site, and they make the rules. Just look what Blogger is doing to people.

I very much doubt Twitter is "randomly" doing this, they just can't review every account in a short space of time. They do have quite a few people using the system

Jay

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jminkler

10 years ago

Originally Posted by JayXtreme

You might wanna read this:

Twitter Support : The Twitter Rules

And remember... Third party sites can always shut you down at the click of a button. It's their site, and they make the rules. Just look what Blogger is doing to people.

I very much doubt Twitter is "randomly" doing this, they just can't review every account in a short space of time. They do have quite a few people using the system

Jay

When I said I could find thousands of account that are similar, I should have said, a script / program. It's really easy to find these accounts, and doesn't require any human intervention.

I have been creating accounts for years to find the "limits" - how else can you find out how hard you can push your social efforts, and have found that for the most part, after you have 2000 followers you are "in the clear" - or very hard to pass over some other ratio where you are considered spam (number of ppl of complain vs those who aren't)

Multiple IM and Social sites even recommend tweeting the "same message" at various times during the day to account for - optimal time zone tweeting, and volume of tweets on ppl's timelines. Nothing new here.

Tweets are drive-by messages - if you have a real reason to interact with potential customers, then do so, at best DM a landing page on follow. Even twitter itself doesn't know how to monetize the site while amazon is still perpetuating a steady stream of affiliate links with #AmazonCart ..

I find it hard to believe that anyone that's on twitter for "business" is there because they "want to be" ... its a horrible time suck unless you have a dedicated #custserv team that can respond to customer's needs. Otherwise, everyone, including google, its auto-botting the snot out of twitter.

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DogScout

14 years ago

How Many Twitter 'Followers' do You Have?
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If you have around 20,000 followers, Over half probably have not 'tweeted' in over 6 months. I assume the real world called and they went. over ½ of blogs (and web sites over all) appear to last less than 6 months to a year before they are abandoned. Same appears to be true with twitter accounts. It is said there are over 200,000 blogs on the net, yet 3/4ths of them have not had a post on them in 3-6 months. So do they count? If 3/4ths of my followers have not logged in for 30 days, do I really have 20,000 followers? (Or just empty accounts 'following me?) So even if you get a million followers in a month, within 6 months most have stopped logging in so don't read your messages anyway.
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So while Twitter says they have over 6 million users, what they mean is they have over 6 million accounts. I doubt there is much more than a million 'users'. Paying to get users or joining programs to get them seems like a temporary way to get a message out at best. In a short time, it is only mostly accounts that are 'following' you, not people. When I check the stats of my followers on an account a little over a year old, 3/4ths of them have not even logged into their accounts in over 30 days and ½ over 3 months ago (A lot haven't 'tweeted' for 6-12 months!). It is mostly smoke and mirrors, it would appear.
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Better to have a small number of followers and if what you say is interesting enough, they may bother to log in to read it. If not, then it is just empty accounts following you as Twitter apparently never deletes abandoned accounts, (although they clain they do after 6 months of inactivity). Just ones that someone takes the time to delete themselves. Even then the count shows up under your 'followers' for 30 more days.
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Of course, just like web sites and blogs, some will probably be around a while, but as with web sites and blogs, those appear to be the minority. (Except where you have a small intimate and like minded following and you create a value that is enough for followers to log in to read.)
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Of course, each of my 3 dogs has there own account! They just tweet inspirational or funny sayings. (You know how dogs can be.

) When Dempsey passed I 'told' his followers through tweets. I got over 100 pleas to not delete his account as they liked his dog wisdom and humor. (As well as even more sympathy messages). So I guess there is no telling. Dempsey still has his account as a result. Sometimes other dogs come by and 'sniff his butt' as well. So now you know I am nuts, (as if you didn't).
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I Have this Little Garden's Twitter Account apparently that has enough value, even though the website has been slow to evolve, that those followers are more active than the 'control group(s)'.
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Anyway, Twitter is an interesting experiment in micro blogging in spite of the fact it is mostly abused by those that do not understand marketing well. There are gems that can be gleaned, even from seemingly large followings that have been invaded by auto-marketers, (which must work enough that it is being done... so in a way, if that turns us off, we have no one to blame but ourselves; or at least those that are buying from them. Besides, buying 'stuff' does make the world go around and creating a micro blogging platform is almost perfect for that method. Could be that was what it's original intention might have been!)
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Hope you enjoyed the ramble. Haven't been banned yet. Sure it is just a matter of time.
Mark

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duia

14 years ago

Thanks for your sharing tips!
It is not wise to play a joke on Twitter. If one account has so many followers, it is really an annoying thing to get banned by Twitter.

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joseph7384

10 years ago

Wow, you must have read Jan's post with horse blinders on and replied with off the wall jargon that makes no sense and is completely unrelated to what she was stating.

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Arclite

10 years ago

Originally Posted by jminkler

I recently got a whole slew of accounts banned, and after a few weeks I finally got an answer (not a very good one) as to why.

1) Multiple accounts - not sure how this pertained as some accounts from my domain didn't get banned so no idea.

2) Posting mostly the same link, no personal updates

Now, here's what I was doing .. I wrote a script to do three things ..
1) Add 15 followers per DAY based on hashtag
2) Unfollow anybody that didn't follow the next day
3) Tweet 5 items (the same items) over the course of a week

Other accounts that got banned did 1 and 2 but were tweeting from a MUCH larger pool of messages, at the rate of 1 message every 45+ mins.

Now here's the thing, I could EASILY write a script that finds no less than 100,000 twitter accounts that do much much worse than this.

So, what I'm aggravated with is the way in which Twitter just "randomly" picks these accounts to ban rather than apply the rules to EVERYONE.

Anyone have any similar experiences or other thoughts? And by the way, I think twittering is probably the worst way to market something.

I am doing the same thing as you do I have about 150 accounts each account has about 1000 followers, so when you send out tweets with tweet scheduler, always make sure the text is unique, so for example:

pic.twitter.com/oroOTH2cYh advetising text http://tiny.cc/zew5fx coupon code: 2782 (<--random number)

I have been doing this for a few days now never had a problem, just be careful with adding people

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technician27

10 years ago

I am glad you banned

Originally Posted by jminkler

I recently got a whole slew of accounts banned, and after a few weeks I finally got an answer (not a very good one) as to why.

1) Multiple accounts - not sure how this pertained as some accounts from my domain didn't get banned so no idea.

2) Posting mostly the same link, no personal updates

Now, here's what I was doing .. I wrote a script to do three things ..
1) Add 15 followers per DAY based on hashtag
2) Unfollow anybody that didn't follow the next day
3) Tweet 5 items (the same items) over the course of a week

Other accounts that got banned did 1 and 2 but were tweeting from a MUCH larger pool of messages, at the rate of 1 message every 45+ mins.

Now here's the thing, I could EASILY write a script that finds no less than 100,000 twitter accounts that do much much worse than this.

So, what I'm aggravated with is the way in which Twitter just "randomly" picks these accounts to ban rather than apply the rules to EVERYONE.

Anyone have any similar experiences or other thoughts? And by the way, I think twittering is probably the worst way to market something.

Thanks

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