How to work around the $10 per action bid Facebook uses in optimized CPM ad campaigns

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Imagine going into an auction and bidding a million dollars to open. Now scale that to worldwide advertising on the largest social media platform and you can understand what it feels like to give Facebook a blank check by using optimized CPM ad campaigns instead of bidding for clicks or impressions. How did Facebook manage to sneak $10 per action bids into the ad campaigns of most advertisers without them knowing it?



Facebook was frustrated with the low cost per click their ads were generating with their original bid per click or bid per thousand impressions interface. To increase their revenue, they found a workaround to this called "optimized CPM" which they now use as the default setting. The key is that most do it yourself Facebook advertisers and even many seasoned veterans of Facebook ads had no idea what happened in the background with this change.

For those that paid close attention to the change, we noticed that sometimes campaigns using optimized CPM would work amazing and other times they would work unbelievably bad. With no way to understand how the system was generating the price, Facebook eventually added a tool in the power editor where you could both learn more about optimized CPM and control the results a bit better. Take another look at the screenshot above now.

Do you notice anything that looks out of place? How about a $10 per action bid? How likely are you to bid $10 on a specific action such as a like, a photo view, or a share? If you said never, you would be correct! The new optimized CPM system basically gives Facebook free reign to charge you whatever they want! If they get you good results sometimes then you will keep spending your money with them. If every few days per week when ad prices get more competitive you get absolutely awful results, you now know why!

This default bid leaves you exposed to any sudden shifts in advertising prices. Prior to introducing this advanced bidding tool, my campaigns in third world countries had days where the cost would be higher than US prices which are normally ten times the cost of running ads in emerging markets! What I liked even better was that I was guaranteed to waste the entire budget my first day as the maximum bid allowed Facebook to charge me top dollar for my ads. Hundreds of campaign budgets wasted the first day means I lost thousands of dollars unnecessarily bidding high.

What can you do to fix it? First, you have to have Google chrome, know how to use the power editor, and not pull your hair out from all the bugs it has. If you can get that far, you have a chance to fix the optimized CPM campaigns in the "pricing" tab. See below.



These are the bids I am now trying for my new campaigns to find the ideal settings. Instead of bidding $10 for someone in Indonesia to view my photo, now I have a max action cost of 5 cents. Magically, I get 40 to 100 likes per dollar now the first day of showing my ads instead of 5 or 10 using the exact same settings in other areas. I also do not have to worry about having a bad day where I basically throw my budget away with no results. I get the benefit of the increased potential of the optimized CPM campaigns without giving Facebook a blank check!

If you are using optimized CPM campaigns on Facebook, I hope this post helps you get better results!
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  • Profile picture of the author Remiband
    Hey, nice post! I would like your advice for something...i am a musician and im starting the whole facebook ad thing now, i ve read all about cpm and cpc for basic use. I am a busker which means i dont have much money to invest, im willing to save 100$ per month to give it a try, what would you think is an ideal setting using cpm or cpc? I know how to target the correct audience by choosing the right music genre etc, i just dont know how to set up the financial stuff, should i put a lifetime budget of 50 bucks? or 4$ a day or 10 a day$? and how are they different?
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    • Profile picture of the author banwork
      Originally Posted by Remiband View Post

      Hey, nice post! I would like your advice for something...i am a musician and im starting the whole facebook ad thing now, i ve read all about cpm and cpc for basic use. I am a busker which means i dont have much money to invest, im willing to save 100$ per month to give it a try, what would you think is an ideal setting using cpm or cpc? I know how to target the correct audience by choosing the right music genre etc, i just dont know how to set up the financial stuff, should i put a lifetime budget of 50 bucks? or 4$ a day or 10 a day$? and how are they different?
      Check out the tips on my blog at BanWork.com University. For what you want to invest, you want to get the most likes for the least cost. I would spend $5/day and try to get hundreds of likes out of it using optimized CPM with what I have shown OR $0.05 CPC bids in the countries I suggest on my blog. This will help you get the most popularity, engagement, and later gigs booked.
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  • Profile picture of the author kjamesnv
    Great Post. I am curious why you bid $0.00 for Social Impressions. Are they not relevant for your campaign?
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  • Profile picture of the author tdbgroup
    Maybe I can help. PM Me
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  • Profile picture of the author Lee M
    Thanks!! I use Optimized CPM all of the time and didn't know this!

    I just checked ... and sure enough ALL of my ads have the $10 bid set for actions! I experienced the same problem with campaigns working quite well ... then all of a sudden ... the results were very bad. This has happened on numerous occasions now.

    In my case, I'm using Page Post Ad ... targeting local area(s) ... and wanting people to click a LINK in the copy ... which lands them on a TAB ... where they fill out a FORM. Someone who fills out the form equals a LEAD. At times, I have had as many as 15 opt-in's in one day. Then ... it went down to zero or one opt-in if you can believe it. I never could understand why?

    I'm using "Conversion Specs" with an action type of "Link Clink." i.e. trying to get someone to click a link which leads them to a Tab.

    I'm now going to re-configure a few ads and manually bid on Actions and Clicks to see what happens. Any advice on those settings?

    I'll report back here!

    Thanks again!

    Lee

    Originally Posted by banwork View Post

    For those that paid close attention to the change, we noticed that sometimes campaigns using optimized CPM would work amazing and other times they would work unbelievably bad.

    Do you notice anything that looks out of place? How about a $10 per action bid? How likely are you to bid $10 on a specific action such as a like, a photo view, or a share? If you said never, you would be correct! The new optimized CPM system basically gives Facebook free reign to charge you whatever they want! If they get you good results sometimes then you will keep spending your money with them. If every few days per week when ad prices get more competitive you get absolutely awful results, you now know why!

    If you are using optimized CPM campaigns on Facebook, I hope this post helps you get better results!
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    • Profile picture of the author banwork
      Originally Posted by Lee M View Post

      Thanks!! I use Optimized CPM all of the time and didn't know this!

      I just checked ... and sure enough ALL of my ads have the $10 bid set for actions! I experienced the same problem with campaigns working quite well ... then all of a sudden ... the results were very bad. This has happened on numerous occasions now.

      In my case, I'm using Page Post Ad ... targeting local area(s) ... and wanting people to click a LINK in the copy ... which lands them on a TAB ... where they fill out a FORM. Someone who fills out the form equals a LEAD. At times, I have had as many as 15 opt-in's in one day. Then ... it went down to zero or one opt-in if you can believe it. I never could understand why?

      I'm using "Conversion Specs" with an action type of "Link Clink." i.e. trying to get someone to click a link which leads them to a Tab.

      I'm now going to re-configure a few ads and manually bid on Actions and Clicks to see what happens. Any advice on those settings?

      I'll report back here!

      Thanks again!

      Lee
      You're welcome Lee! This is so new to me that I am just starting to try the best ways to set the bids. The campaign bids I have above were working great until Facebook started running on only impression bids and showing my ads to all the wrong people. I went from 400 likes per day several days in a row to literally 40 yesterday and now 5 so far today without doing anything different.

      My thought is to bid only on actions since it appears Facebook uses whatever bid it finds most convenient for getting paid. If you leave the bid at zero, it seems to not use that category which means I will start leaving the "reach" bid at zero! I will post my findings on the optimized CPM bids soon as they appear to work a bit differently than just bidding for clicks or impressions.
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  • Profile picture of the author Meta04
    Hello Banwork,

    I was looking for an answer on why upon re-activating an ad, Facebook would quickly dump my money. Also, an explanation over the jump in prices of the same target.

    I found your topic very interesting but I cannot find the ''Manually set up bids'' option. I remember seeing it when I first started my campaign a month ago, but it's no longer available.

    Is it the same for you? Has anything changed?

    Thanks alot,

    - Meta04 from Montreal, Canada.
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  • Profile picture of the author billromer
    Any update on your tests, banwork?

    I'm trying to change the optimized CPM parameters in Power Editor, but it just doesn't seem to be saving them.
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    • Profile picture of the author Wendy Hearn
      Originally Posted by billromer View Post

      Any update on your tests, banwork?

      I'm trying to change the optimized CPM parameters in Power Editor, but it just doesn't seem to be saving them.
      I'm now having the same problem Bill. I'm fairly sure for the first couple of days the changes to the bidding were saved in Power Editor but not now.
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    • Profile picture of the author banwork
      Originally Posted by Meta04 View Post

      Hello Banwork,

      I was looking for an answer on why upon re-activating an ad, Facebook would quickly dump my money. Also, an explanation over the jump in prices of the same target.

      I found your topic very interesting but I cannot find the ''Manually set up bids'' option. I remember seeing it when I first started my campaign a month ago, but it's no longer available.

      Is it the same for you? Has anything changed?

      Thanks alot,

      - Meta04 from Montreal, Canada.
      The manually setup bids option is available in the power editor only using the pricing tab. On the first day of activating a new campaign or of changing the budget, Facebook pushes the ads into higher bidding which results usually in the budget being wasted for that day. The ads run most effectively when they have an entire day to space the daily spending out. As such, it is important to minimize changes to your daily budget to get the best results.

      Originally Posted by billromer View Post

      Any update on your tests, banwork?

      I'm trying to change the optimized CPM parameters in Power Editor, but it just doesn't seem to be saving them.
      The power editor is full of bugs. The Facebook CRM team will tell you to delete the plugin, clear your cache, and delete your cookies to remove errors. Sometimes this works and sometimes it does not. Of course when you do this, you lose your existing changes.

      My tests have had mixed results. For more expensive markets such as fashion ads in the US only, using the bids shown above will result in not having the ads shown at all. I had to raise my cost per action to $2.50 to even get the ads to show.

      For worldwide ad campaigns in lower cost countries, the results were both positive and disappointing depending on how the bids were set. When I put only the cost per action at $0.05, I was able to avoid the first day waste of my budget and get 400 likes out of $10 consistently for the duration of the campaign. On a similar campaign when I left the CPM bid in, my ads started running as if I had bid only on CPM which resulted in a lot of impressions for $0.01 CPM with ridiculously low CTR and almost no likes. I had to remove the CPM bid and just do actions. This fixed the problem but the CPM went up to a ridiculous level. Finally, I capped the CPM at $0.10 with the action bids at $0.05. This netted solid results in likes per dollar.

      I am making several courses to learn this. The easiest way is to just have me or someone else with this knowledge answer your questions and show you what you need to know. I have a WSO for this here: http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...questions.html
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  • Profile picture of the author billromer
    Yeah, Wendy, it's weird. I think my changes did take, since today I've gotten absolutely no clicks/likes at all. I had set clicks to $0.05, actions to $0.10 and the rest to $0 in Power Editor, and it seems I've stalled my campaign completely :-(
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    • Profile picture of the author Wendy Hearn
      Originally Posted by billromer View Post

      Yeah, Wendy, it's weird. I think my changes did take, since today I've gotten absolutely no clicks/likes at all. I had set clicks to $0.05, actions to $0.10 and the rest to $0 in Power Editor, and it seems I've stalled my campaign completely :-(
      Oh dear! Just out of curiosity Bill if you download those ads back into Power Editor does it show those same settings?

      Wendy
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    • Profile picture of the author Lee M
      Originally Posted by billromer View Post

      Yeah, Wendy, it's weird. I think my changes did take, since today I've gotten absolutely no clicks/likes at all. I had set clicks to $0.05, actions to $0.10 and the rest to $0 in Power Editor, and it seems I've stalled my campaign completely :-(
      I have been using Optimized CPM for a little while ... and had wondered why some of my campaigns had stalled.

      I read this post by Banwork (who is a sharp Facebook marketer) and have been testing the settings.

      In addition to placing values in Clicks and Actions (like you have done) ... I notice that when I place a value in REACH ... that gets my campaign moving again! In fact, from some early testing REACH seems to move the needle the most.

      Hope that helps. Report back if it works for you.

      Keep in mind I'm doing LOCAL campaigns, but it should work the same on international, national, regional, statewide etc.

      Lee
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      • Profile picture of the author banwork
        Originally Posted by Lee M View Post

        I have been using Optimized CPM for a little while ... and had wondered why some of my campaigns had stalled.

        I read this post by Banwork (who is a sharp Facebook marketer) and have been testing the settings.

        In addition to placing values in Clicks and Actions (like you have done) ... I notice that when I place a value in REACH ... that gets my campaign moving again! In fact, from some early testing REACH seems to move the needle the most.

        Hope that helps. Report back if it works for you.

        Keep in mind I'm doing LOCAL campaigns, but it should work the same on international, national, regional, statewide etc.

        Lee
        Lee,

        Thank you for the compliment! Placing a bid on reach does help to get the campaign moving again but it seems Facebook can use this bid to place ads in the undesirable spots that ads bidding manually on CPM generally get.

        After testing many different bid options over the last month, it seems to me the main difference in oCPM campaigns is that Facebook places the ads in front of people they know are more likely to click on ads to begin with. Since the majority of Facebook users are not actively engaged with most ads, the standard CPM bids are generally shown almost entirely to people that do not click on ads. My exact same ads in a manual bid CPM campaign were showing all for $0.01 and not getting hardly a click. Switch to the oCPM campaigns and now all the sudden the CTR and actions are through the roof.

        In summary, I have found it generally is best to just leave the bid at the max action or to use CPC manual bids. As disappointing as I find this, the time + effort to manually do the bids seems to be a waste of time in 90+ percent of cases.
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        • Profile picture of the author Wendy Hearn
          Originally Posted by banwork View Post

          In summary, I have found it generally is best to just leave the bid at the max action or to use CPC manual bids. As disappointing as I find this, the time + effort to manually do the bids seems to be a waste of time in 90+ percent of cases.
          Yes I agree the time + effort doesn't give the returns.

          What I've been testing at the moment is to start using oCPM on a new ad so that it targets those who do interact. Once I've got some interaction going and hence the number of likes and comments show under the ad (I'm using newsfeed ads) then I changing to CPC as this is reducing the cost and still seems to get a reasonable amount of interaction.

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          • Profile picture of the author banwork
            Originally Posted by Wet Wolf View Post

            I'm just now seeing this somehow. Either way I know my next campaign will be in good hands with you ; )
            Thank you!

            Originally Posted by Wendy Hearn View Post

            Yes I agree the time + effort doesn't give the returns.

            What I've been testing at the moment is to start using oCPM on a new ad so that it targets those who do interact. Once I've got some interaction going and hence the number of likes and comments show under the ad (I'm using newsfeed ads) then I changing to CPC as this is reducing the cost and still seems to get a reasonable amount of interaction.

            Wendy
            That's a clever solution and you are one of the few that understands that the average person prefers to interact with a well established post!
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  • Profile picture of the author billromer
    When I downloaded the ad again, the settings were back to the default. Wacko.
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    • Profile picture of the author Wendy Hearn
      Originally Posted by billromer View Post

      When I downloaded the ad again, the settings were back to the default. Wacko.
      Yes, that's what I'm still getting.

      Wendy
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  • Profile picture of the author Big Gee
    Can anyone recommend a course or WSO on how to learn this?
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  • Profile picture of the author Wet Wolf
    I'm just now seeing this somehow. Either way I know my next campaign will be in good hands with you ; )
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