Why can't WF put all NEW members posts in a PENDING approval forum?

Claude is busy running his business even though you might think he has time available.

Yes...he would clean this place up...

...but...

You wouldn't want to burden him with a task that can be outsourced to a more appropriate team or even software.

Self monitoring does work but I'd just add that delayed post layer to the new members because that is where it seems all the spam comes from.

Maybe all new members have to send $10 to Claude personally just to help with his upcoming retirement and because he deserves it

best regards,

Ozi

Do you know what stopped new spam in its tracks cold before (besides pre-moderation)? A small fee for all new accounts while all existing accounts were grandfathered in.

So, let's say you charged $1 to get an account.

Might that stop some legitimate guy just wanting to start a business for his family? Yes. But if he or she doesn't have $1 and either a credit card or a PayPal account they aren't going to be able to do anything to really help their family. Yes they can get a free site or a free this or that but that only lasts so far and the quality in many cases is lacking so they just aren't going to be able to do much of anything long term or significant.

I'm not being biased or cruel towards others I don't think because I was in that boat myself at a dark time in the past. Of course, I probably could have borrowed it but I was flat broke.

If there is an argument about hurting the poor guy (and it's been brought up plenty of times before), then we all should just shut down our paywalls and give up everything for free. The forum makes money when people buy things like a WR membership, pay for an ad, or buy through one of your affiliate links or Warrior Payment users. That's just the way life works.

Don't forget that they can still read the forum. They can still buy WSOs. They can click on signatures and buy or get in contact with existing Warriors.

The other argument is from those that argue they would never pay to join a forum. Some of them come to join the conversation and are helpful, some are permanent trolls, and some are spammers.

None of the current members would be effected but in the future new members would need to pay to post. If they don't want to or think it's fair there are plenty of other marketing forums they can go

What about stats as far as what advertisers see? The current number of members wouldn't go down unless they are banned (not sure if they are counted or not) or deleted.

Of course, numbers of new members might take a hit. But many of the new members, let's face it, are the ones doing the spamming.

The great majority of the blatant spam I report are by new members that joined just for the purpose of spamming. It's fairly rare to see blatant spam (Viagra, black magic, live streaming movies) from established members. Of course, many of them are posting the non blatant spam which is off topic for this thread about new members.

So the new visitor without $1 could still get their education for free except from the paid sections of the forum. They just can't post and ask questions. But, as many of us have said, there really aren't any new questions - it's just a matter of filling in the blanks with variables in a known question. For example, "I've tried A,B,C for X number of months/years and it hasn't worked. I'm ready to quit because I need $Y before ____ or I'm going to have to be on the street."

Many of the questions such as "what is Facebook's policy on creating multiple accounts" or "what is PayPal's contact phone number from Malaysia" can and should be found on those company websites or through a simple Google search.

Number of posts might go down but I think you'd need to look at the pattern. I've discovered, that many, many new users post one thread - typically a desperation thread - and then they never post again. So is losing that one or two new threads going to kill the bottom line? All of the current members would continue to post as they do now even though some of those that post their nonsense just for sig exposure may have less places to post.

This may create an environment where more quality is posted if the quantity goes down.

My point is this worked in the past. None of us understood why they stopped it. Maybe they wanted more numbers for some reason. We see how that change back turned out. We wouldn't be having this discussion, for the nth time if it wasn't abandoned before.

Mark