I can't find a fast easy way to log in - is there one?

by AffiliatePrograms 27 replies
Maybe it's different for people who visit WF on mobile, but I visit WF on desktop. When I come to WF, however, I am surprised and puzzled because so many lengthy steps are required to be able to log in, and I have not been able to find any faster or easier way. I've also searched for it.

When I arrive at WF, this is how I have to login:

1. Click "Register" link in upper left of screen because there is no log in link or feature.

2. Registration pop up overlay appears.

3. Scroll down the pop up.

4. Click "Already have an account?" link.

5. New log in pop up overlay now appears.

6. Now at last, I can do the log in.

Whew!

Just imagine when you like to come back a lot sometimes and you don't exactly like storing cookies... (Help!)

The WF implementation and development modifications to VBulletin here are really great, and as happened to me recently you could even wind up not being sure it's VB software any more. However, this really looooooooooong multi-step process just to log in via desktop is really puzzling and hard to bear. ("Must hold on, can't hold on much longer...")

In contrast, for instance, a lot of forums have moved from VB to XF, and with XF as soon as you arrive on the homepage of a forum the log in process is as fast and easy as Bruce Lee on steroids. But even with VB I'm sure you can still have a much faster easier log in.

Is it possible the team just hasn't noticed this issue because most people use mobile now?

In any event - PLEASE do add a quick easy log in feature that appears right away without having to dig for it. I'm confident that could also possibly add Big Time to the bottom line for WF, as in win-win for all.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
    ...or just click Log in like everyone else.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
    Really?



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  • Profile picture of the author AffiliatePrograms
    Really.

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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
    The problem is obviously on your end.

    Your image is too small (don't host images on WF). What browser are you using? I'm using Chrome and Firefox.
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  • Profile picture of the author AffiliatePrograms
    I'm using the most current version of Firefox. That would make the problem at WF's end, not mine, unless they want to make the site that way for all people using the most current FF, which I seriously doubt.

    As for hosting images on WF, I'm using the attach feature here.
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  • Profile picture of the author AffiliatePrograms
    Okay, here we go for larger image:

    forum image hosting
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
    My screenshot showing the log in link is from Firefox (51.0.1).
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  • Profile picture of the author AffiliatePrograms
    Mine is from "51.0.1 (32-bit)."
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
    ...again, your problem because the link obviously exist or I wouldn't be commenting.
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  • Profile picture of the author AffiliatePrograms
    Really? That's jumping to unwarranted conclusions. You haven't said whether your Firefox is 32 or 64 bit either.

    I just tested IE 11 and the log in link shows up there. But who uses IE any more?
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  • Profile picture of the author nmcalabroso
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    First, thank you for reporting this lengthy process from your end.

    Second, this is weird since we're also testing using firefox. I'm thinking that this has something to do with your display. What resolution are you on? What operating system?
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  • Profile picture of the author AffiliatePrograms
    Thanks for your reply. My screen res is 1024 x 768. If you see my screen shot I'm scrolled all the way to the right side end of the page where the "Log in" should be. I will send you a PM now telling you my OS because I don't want to say my OS publicly.
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  • Profile picture of the author nmcalabroso
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    AffiliatePrograms I got your PM and we have successfully replicated the problem. We will add this to our backlog and will get back to you ASAP.

    Shout out to yukon for helping another Warrior today. Appreciated!
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  • Profile picture of the author nmcalabroso
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    AffiliatePrograms, we just deployed a fix for this
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  • Profile picture of the author AffiliatePrograms
    Uh oh, looks like I spoke too soon. It's back to sending you to All Topics | Feed | Warrior Forum when you log in instead of letting you stay on the WF homepage. So then you have to click the Forum link to return to the homepage. Still a big improvement though, but would like to be able to stay at the homepage after logging in.
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    • Profile picture of the author yukon
      Originally Posted by AffiliatePrograms View Post

      Uh oh, looks like I spoke too soon. It's back to sending you to All Topics | Feed | Warrior Forum when you log in instead of letting you stay on the WF homepage. So then you have to click the Forum link to return to the homepage. Still a big improvement though, but would like to be able to stay at the homepage after logging in.


      That Feed redirect on login has been like that since the Feed first existed... and everyone has complained about it since the Feed first existed.

      I'd bet my last dime most traffic clicks away from the Feed to the Forum after login.

      Freelancer, look at your analytics once in a while. Everything about the Feed is a bad user experience. You're not Twitter.
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  • Profile picture of the author timokeefe
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    We're intending to push some feed/forum switching improvements this week.
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  • Profile picture of the author timokeefe
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    It's clear that most older users are not fans of the feed view, so as I mentioned we're aiming to push some changes this week so that you'll hopefully never need to see it.

    As for the analytics, it's a lot more mixed than you'd imagine...
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    • Profile picture of the author yukon
      Originally Posted by timokeefe View Post

      It's clear that most older users are not fans of the feed view, so as I mentioned we're aiming to push some changes this week so that you'll hopefully never need to see it.

      As for the analytics, it's a lot more mixed than you'd imagine...


      You literally have two versions of the same website on one domain which is a confusing user experience... well, not for me personally because I avoid the Feed but imagine your new traffic when they eventually realize the same content is on the Feed and the Forum.

      I hope you're not counting the login redirect on the analytics as a positive since your forcing forum login traffic to view the Feed even If all they want is the Forum.

      Not only is the Feed a bad user experience it's killing Warrior Forum as far as SEO. Do you realize Warrior Forum ranks #54 on Google Search (US - East Coast) for the keyword internet marketing? This is a keyword you're targeting and this is a well established site. You're still #54 on Google Search.

      The screenshot/list below are keywords Warrior Forum is targeting (Warrior Forum meta keywords in HTML source code), the red box shows the current Google position. None of it's any good, it's terrible for a well established site. The dashes on the Google column means you have no pages even indexed for those keywords (seo, make money online). That means Warrior Forum isn't even at position 1,000 for those keywords (bad).

      Believe it or not I'm actually trying to be constructive here and help you by pointing out the mess like the Feed and not ranking on Google for obvious keywords you should be ranking.

      I'm sure you've inherited the mess and I do see you posting on the forum in regular forum threads, not just rant threads or support, so good job being active on the forum.



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      • Profile picture of the author timokeefe
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        Originally Posted by yukon View Post

        You literally have two versions of the same website on one domain which is a confusing user experience... well, not for me personally because I avoid the Feed but imagine your new traffic when they eventually realize the same content is on the Feed and the Forum.
        We're implementing changes to the main navigation this week which should fix this. Essentially the view will be a toggle rather than two main nav items. The main nav will be content-focused rather than view-focused.

        I hope you're not counting the login redirect on the analytics as a positive since your forcing forum login traffic to view the Feed even If all they want is the Forum.
        No we don't count that. We'll also be fixing that as part of the nav changes. If you've set the toggle to the forum view we'll cookie you and respect that setting where possible, so you shouldn't be redirected to feed if you've set your preference to forum.

        Not only is the Feed a bad user experience it's killing Warrior Forum as far as SEO. Do you realize Warrior Forum ranks #54 on Google Search (US - East Coast) for the keyword internet marketing? This is a keyword you're targeting and this is a well established site. You're still #54 on Google Search.

        The screenshot/list below are keywords Warrior Forum is targeting (Warrior Forum meta keywords in HTML source code), the red box shows the current Google position. None of it's any good, it's terrible for a well established site. The dashes on the Google column means you have no pages even indexed for those keywords (seo, make money online). That means Warrior Forum isn't even at position 1,000 for those keywords (bad).
        SEO is on the long list of things that need fixing, and the feed vs forum toggle is one of the first steps we're taking to sort it out. As long as there's a toggle, Google and co should only be able to see one version of the forum, and the usability should be improved as there'd be less crazy switching and less confused users seeing the same content twice.

        The way we're working right now is that we're setting a broad focus for each week, so that we can all work on getting something significant fixed or improved every week. So far we haven't had an SEO focused week, but it's likely we'll have one soon (I know we can't fix it one in a week, but we can at least knock out some of the worst issues).

        Believe it or not I'm actually trying to be constructive here and help you by pointing out the mess like the Feed and not ranking on Google for obvious keywords you should be ranking.

        I'm sure you've inherited the mess and I do see you posting on the forum in regular forum threads, not just rant threads or support, so good job being active on the forum.
        Frankly we all love posts like this, because it helps highlight the things we should be fixing next (and it's clear that you're being constructive here). If I stop seeing posts like this then I'll be really worried
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  • Profile picture of the author AffiliatePrograms
    Well as of right now after logging in at the homepage it took me to http://www.warriorforum.com/ with a "#" on the end, so that's a welcome thing.
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  • Profile picture of the author AffiliatePrograms
    Well for a nice but short while it was staying on the homepage when I log in, but now it is back to sending me to the Feed view, from which I have to link over to Forum.
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  • Profile picture of the author timokeefe
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    We'll have that fixed when the nav changes go out.
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