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Perhaps Properly Moderate Instead Of This...

by iAmNameLess
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So... There's plenty of spam, and that happens with forums of this size and even tiny forums. Spam is not the fault of the moderators, and is not my complaint.

However...

One suggestion would be better moderation. Instead of closing threads that someone thinks is in the wrong section (when it isn't in the wrong section) maybe MOVE the thread to where you think it should go instead of cutting out any discussion.

Take a look at this:

http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...e-website.html

Thread was closed, because it should have been in the SEO forum?
1.) Bounce rate is an internet marketing issue not an SEO issue
2.) If it were supposed to be in another forum, then why not move it instead of close the thread?
3.) So if someone mentions any topic of SEO or mentions PPC as a traffic generation method in the main discussion forum, that should be closed too? That's a bit ridiculous.

I hope this was maybe an oversight but I've seen a lot of valuable threads closed that never should have been closed.


No need to flex your super power muscles... if something is in the wrong place and has a conversation going, think twice about closing it... or even moving it. Usually there is a reason why someone posts something in a certain area... especially if they've been around for a while.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

    One suggestion would be better moderation. Instead of closing threads that someone thinks is in the wrong section (when it isn't in the wrong section) maybe MOVE the thread to where you think it should go instead of cutting out any discussion.
    That's not better moderation. That's babysitting. The forums are listed on the front page. The main forum is not the only forum to post in, although it would seem some people think it is. Moving threads rather than closing or deleting them does nothing but encourage people to just continue to post in the wrong threads, including members who have been around long enough that they should know where to post.
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  • Profile picture of the author Patrician
    What makes no sense is the way the whole moderation/spam issue is being handled.

    Making the forum free opens it wide open to every miscreant on the planet. Some you can't even blacklist via IP address since they use proxy servers to spread their #$@!$2.

    So it is a double whammy where for example the Off Topic forum is being flooded daily with spam - and then you make some stupid rule that someone has to wait 60 seconds to report a second spam post. Why make it so difficult to get rid of the garbage?
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  • Profile picture of the author RobinInTexas
    If a thread is started in the wrong forum, as I see it there are 2 good choices, delete the thread or move it, to flag and lock it simply clutters up the forum.

    Once upon a time Istvan, one of the mods who seems to be on hiatus, took the time to lay out some rules and good information in sticky threads at the top of the Website Design forum. Those rules probably should apply, perhaps with some changes and adaption for the context in all the forums.

    Why management never looked at that and applied them is beyond my comprehension..
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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
      Nameless,

      It's easy to criticize when it's not hours of your life being chewed up every day by people who are too lazy or insensate to bother reading the rules and learning the customs of the community they intend to use.

      And yes, that last was precisely the correct word for such situations.

      I just looked at the history, and no less than 6 posts were removed from that thread. The topical mismatch was not the only reason it was closed. And that doesn't begin to factor in the record of the OP in that thread for posting nearly illegible questions, often making no sense even when deciphered, and placing threads in the wrong sections.

      He is the classic example supporting Suzanne's comment about babysitting.

      Perhaps you might consider choosing better flags to wave before suggesting that "moderation I don't agree with based on limited data" is the same as "improper moderation."

      I can't speak for the new moderators brought in by Freelancer, but the folks who've been modding here for a while have exactly zero interest in "flexing their super powers." That kind of baseless and inflammatory rhetoric shouldn't come from someone as intelligent as you.

      From dummies, I assume it's just pique. You ain't no dummy. So why the spin, doctor?


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      • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
        Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

        That's not better moderation. That's babysitting. The forums are listed on the front page. The main forum is not the only forum to post in, although it would seem some people think it is. Moving threads rather than closing or deleting them does nothing but encourage people to just continue to post in the wrong threads, including members who have been around long enough that they should know where to post.
        Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

        Nameless,

        It's easy to criticize when it's not hours of your life being chewed up every day by people who are too lazy or insensate to bother reading the rules and learning the customs of the community they intend to use.

        And yes, that last was precisely the correct word for such situations.

        I just looked at the history, and no less than 6 posts were removed from that thread. The topical mismatch was not the only reason it was closed. And that doesn't begin to factor in the record of the OP in that thread for posting nearly illegible questions, often making no sense even when deciphered, and placing threads in the wrong sections.

        He is the classic example supporting Suzanne's comment about babysitting.

        Perhaps you might consider choosing better flags to wave before suggesting that "moderation I don't agree with based on limited data" is the same as "improper moderation."

        I can't speak for the new moderators brought in by Freelancer, but the folks who've been modding here for a while have exactly zero interest in "flexing their super powers." That kind of baseless and inflammatory rhetoric shouldn't come from someone as intelligent as you.

        From dummies, I assume it's just pique. You ain't no dummy. So why the spin, doctor?


        Paul
        Fair enough... You're right, definitely limited info on my end. I just figured from what I saw, that it really wasn't in the wrong area.

        I understand closing threads or even deleting them that are in the wrong area, I have no pickle with that. It just seems that in the last couple weeks, threads that actually are posted in the proper forum are getting closed for it not being in the right forum.

        I will often make a thread about a topic that could be in another forum, and I acknowledge that in my OP, and explain why I'm asking in a particular forum instead of the other.

        Good points made.
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    • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
      Originally Posted by RobinInTexas View Post

      If a thread is started in the wrong forum, as I see it there are 2 good choices, delete the thread or move it, to flag and lock it simply clutters up the forum.
      Yes, I agree with that and have no problem with those choices. It just seems in the last couple weeks threads that are posted in the proper forum get locked. Perhaps there were other factors I'm not aware of, like Paul said.
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      • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
        It just seems that in the last couple weeks, threads that actually are posted in the proper forum are getting closed for it not being in the right forum.
        Entirely possible.

        We have a few people who regularly report threads they think are in the wrong section and aren't, based on mistaken assumptions about what goes where. Those same people also report a lot of things that are misplaced or otherwise in need of attention. With the spam filters being broken or ineffective for the past month or so, it wouldn't surprise me a bit to find that the mods are letting trigger phrases like "bounce rate" decide such calls. The time demands have been much higher recently, so the amount of slack given any post or thread is going to be lower.

        Doesn't have anything to do with the thread in question, but others might fit the impression you've formed.

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