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| Holly Cotter War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Shady Side, MD, USA.
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| CLOSED I am posting this WSO on behalf of my friend, and well-known internet marketer, Len Thurmond... Where Else Can You Get 71 Attorney-Written FTC Compliant Legal Documents Specifically Designed For Internet-Based Businesses ... For A Steal? Only "AutoWebLaw Pro" Fits The Bill! AutoWebLaw Pro has been around since 2003, and is considered to be the STANDARD in legal documents for internet-based businesses. It is the most popular, most comprehensive, and most affordable package of legal documents you will find... guaranteed, or your money back. AutoWebLaw Pro has just been updated to ensure every document meets current FTC Guidelines. A Quick Peek Inside AutoWebLaw Pro:
CLOSED The terms for this product are: [NO] Can be resold [NO] Can be added to paid membership sites [NO] Can be edited, revised or modified [NO] Can be used as web content [NO] Can be broken down into smaller articles [NO] Can be added to an e-Course or autoresponder as content [NO] Can be packaged with other paid products [NO] Can be offered as a bonus to a paid product [NO] Can be offered through auction sites [NO] Can sell private label rights This product is for PRIVATE USE ONLY!! |
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| Sam The Eagle War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Durham, NC, USA.
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Hi Holly, Is this the same software that caused a stir here on the forum a few years back? I would assume all of the contract are original and drafted specifically for this tool... is that so? Many thanks, Sam |
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| Holly Cotter War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Shady Side, MD, USA.
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This is absolutely NOT the legal docs package that caused all the problems. I can't remember what the name of that product was... but it was a knock-off of AutoWebLaw Pro (after they saw how well AutoWebLaw Pro was selling, they decided to create a "me too" product... unfortunately they did it by plageurizing legal documents written by other attorneys for other clients). AutoWebLaw Pro is the first package of legal documents that was created specifically for internet-based businesses. Every document in AutoWebLaw Pro is original, and was written for AutoWebLaw Pro by an attorney who is very familiar with internet-based businesses and the laws surrounding them. I have personally been using AutoWebLaw Pro documents since 2003, and continue to do so. I also recommend this legal document package to every one of my students. Short of spending thousands of dollars for an attorney to draft original legal documents for each of your websites/products, AutoWebLaw Pro is the smartest and safest choice you can make. :-) | |
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| Warrior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: , , USA.
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Just curious as to how these docs are FTC compliant. Len's a nice guy but he's not an Internet lawyer. Unlike the docs on the AutoWebLaw Pro website (which claim California as jurisdiction), does the privacy policy comply with California's 2005 law concerning privacy policy requirements? The new copy of the free FTC Guidelines? That's great too. Can get those at FTC.gov for free. How about docs that actually provide the material connection disclosures per those Guidelines? Has Len's attorney drafted something for that yet? Yes, I'm a competitor of Len in this market with an alternative software package (disclosing but not mentioning software name because that isn't the point of this post). And I have no doubt that some of the legal forms he has are good. My concern is selling something as "FTC compliant" by a non-lawyer when there's no evidence to support those claims, particularly in light of the new FTC guidelines. Sometimes doing a favor for a friend is no favor. Best wishes, -Mike |
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| Holly Cotter War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Shady Side, MD, USA.
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Hi Mike, I think it's interesting that you are asking questions that I - NOT an attorney myself - would have no ability to answer. Have you been to Len's website (link is in the WSO above)? Have you contacted Len directly to ask him these questions? No, Len is not an attorney. But, an attorney has drafted all the legal documents AND updated everything so it is FTC compliant. As to California laws... you'll have to ask Len yourself. AutoWebLaw Pro has been used by internet entrepreneurs in many countries around the world... it contains documents not just for the U.S. My answer to you would be this... If someone lives in California and is looking for documents specifically for California, then maybe your package would be the best choice. However, if someone lives anywhere in the U.S. (and several countries outside of the U.S.... don't ask me, go to Len's website and see what it says and/or contact him directly to find out WHAT countries) then AutoWebLaw Pro would be the correct choice. BTW, I want to point out a couple of things: 1. I never said Len was an attorney, and Len has never presented himself to be an attorney. However, the documents in AutoWebLaw PRO WERE written by an attorney. 2. AutoWebLaw Pro was the FIRST package of legal documents to be created for internet-based business, and it continues to provide the largest number of legal documents than any other package... at half the cost. 3. I, and many other well-known internet-based entrepreneurs, have been using AutoWebLaw Pro for years... with never a problem. I stand by what I said in the original post... You can spend thousands of dollars to hire an attorney to draft original documents for each of your web properties, or you can use the AutoWebLaw Pro documents to generate customized legal documents for your web properties... for just pennies on the dollar. Oh, and one more thing... I've been online since 1998, and have built a reputation for honesty and integrity. One of the ways I have maintained my good reputation is by ONLY recommending products I have personally reviewed and believe in. I have turned down JV's with several "good friends" because (a) I didn't feel their product was something the people on my list would benefit from, as well as because (b) I just didn't think their product was good enough quality. Yes, Len is a friend... but AutoWebLaw Pro ROCKS! Which is why I nagged him until he agreed to offer it at a discount to my fellow warriors. :-) |
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Holly, As I said, I'm sure that some of the forms are good. My quibble is with a non-lawyer piking for another non-lawyer's product using the unsubstantiated claim "FTC compliant," particularly with the requirements of the new guidelines. Regarding the 2005 California privacy law, the scope of that law exceeds the boundaries of that state and affects online retailers based elsewhere who sell to California residents. To reiterate, this is NOT about promoting one product over another. It is simply noting the dangers of slinging around the unsubstantiated term "FTC compliant." That's a dangerous representation to make with the FTC now focusing on Internet marketers. Best wishes, -Mike P.S. Don't have Len's contact info, but he's always welcome to e-mail me via the contact form on my law firm site. P.P.S. Hope you're enjoying your "retirement." |
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| Holly Cotter War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Shady Side, MD, USA.
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I agree you have to be careful with the new FTC regulations. That is why AutoWebLaw Pro was updated... to ensure the documents meet current regulations (and not regulations from 2003). I am simply trying to share the word with fellow warriors... that, if they want to buy a package of legal documents, they can get a huge discount here. It has nothing to do with whether or not I am an attorney. I am sharing a resource I personally use... and have worked out a deal for my fellow warriors so they can use this same resource and not have to pay full price. I never expected I would have to defend the product or my reasons for using my influence to get a great discount for my fellow warriors... and I'm no longer going to try. If someone has a REAL question, then I will answer it. Otherwise, I'm going to focus my valuable time and attention on running my own business. I suggest you do the same. |
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| Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Florida
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Hi Holly, Sitting on the fence owed to all of that rigmarole. With all due respect I have a question and a "find" for lack of better term. The "find" led me to a question. As you know there are upsales. When I went to purchase I saw the link "I have Read and Agree to the Purchase License Terms." The link is dead. Found a good link by going to the home page: LICENSE AGREEMENT FOR USE OF AUTOWEBLAWPRO DOCUMENTS LICENSE AGREEMENT FOR USE OF AUTOWEBLAW PRO DOCUMENTS AND/OR SOFTWARE I assume that is the correct link? If it is correct my question is about the relationship with LAWVEST SERVICES, INC. It states... The parties to this Agreement are that party purchasing a license and downloading document packages and/or software through our web site (defined herein as 'YOU') and LAWVEST SERVICES, INC., a California Corporation (herein designated as 'LAWVEST'). We WILL NOT represent you in any specific legal matter. We will only sell you a license to use our document package and/or software ("products") in generic form, much like you may purchase a book from a bookstore that includes form documents. Our documents are of a general nature and may not address your specific transaction or relationship. The AutoWebLaw Pro Package is NOT intended to be a substitute for competent legal advice. We suggest you seek the advice of a local competent Attorney before making any of the documents created from AutoWebLaw Pro a binding agreement. Should you decide to use the documents from AutoWebLaw Pro without the advice of a competent Attorney, you do so at your own risk. Does that mean I must also obtain the legal services of an attorney like LAWVEST before I can use the documents on my websites? Jeffery 100% :-) |
| 8 Years Selling Websites Here At The Warrior Forum Last edited by Jeffery; 10-23-2009 at 03:12 AM. Reason: BIG Thumbs :-) | |
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| GO Cubs! War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Chicago, IL USA
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Holly, You took the time to post this. Then someone asks you a question and right away you play the "I'm not a Lawyer" card. Then you you're asking fellow Warriors to contact Len directly? At least be a professional about it and answer the question(s). If anything, PM the person instead of getting defensive. To take it even further, you make a comment that "I'm going to focus my valuable time running my business" Regards, Dennis |
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| Holly Cotter War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Shady Side, MD, USA.
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Hi Jeffery, Any time you buy anything that an attorney hasn't written specifically for you, they are going to cover their butts with a disclaimer. No, you don't have to consult an attorney... but, Len's company doesn't want to be liable if you use the documents improperly. |
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| Holly Cotter War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Shady Side, MD, USA.
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Hey Dennis, Sorry you feel that way. I put up this WSO as a way to help my fellow warriors. I am NOT a lawyer (so, I don't know how saying that is wrong) and am therefore not qualified to answer the questions that person asked. In that particular case, the questions that were asked were extremely detailed about legal minutae and - since this isn't my product - I don't have the ABILITY to answer his questions... and told him the truth - that he would have to contact Len for the answer. If you re-read his post, I think you'll see why I felt attacked and why I had to defend myself. Honestly, I am surprised at the negativity I've received and the amount of time I've had to spend defending myself (responding to your post included), and will never again use my influence with well-known internet marketers to get them to offer reduced deals to warriors... it's just not worth the hassle. |
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| Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Gulf Coast, USA.
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There is a condescending tone to this entire thread that is unnecessary. Influence or not - a WSO must be something you create. Due to that rule, members expect to ask questions about an offer and have them answered. kay |
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| Holly Cotter War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Shady Side, MD, USA.
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OK, I give up. I wasn't trying to be condescending, and I have no problem answering real questions. However, I have been feeling attacked... by several people now. I guess no good deed goes unpunished. This WSO is closed. |
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Good answer and kindly appreciated. Jeffery 100% :-) | |
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Hi, I've received the same promotion from Mike Filsaime with regard to AutoWeb Law Pro? Any suggestion then what would be the best and most affordable product to cover small and start-up online business with regard to this legal requirements? Thanks for the info though. |
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One can always drop a few Benjamins in an Internet lawyers lap located in your jurisdiction to perform a document review if you so wish. Its pretty easy work for them and they can make any suggestions for changes. Lot cheaper than drafting docs from scratch!
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