Create Native Apps for Android, iPad/iPhone, and Kindle, without the huge expenses of doing so.

[MissTR]

Hi Amber,

You read my mind (and a lot of others I suppose). I've looked at every single one of those "resources" you mentioned and ended up not buying into ANY of them because of the pricing, and limitations. Yes, I was pulling my hair out.

This was perfect timing. I have a question for you though, as I know you can't mention every single feature. Does your system provide the customer loyalty program (i.e.-"punch card" system) whereby the customer can buy x number of something over a time and then they get something free?

All else looks very promising.

Thanks,
-MissTR

[NickMann]

Amber... This looks AWESOME..

Just a few questions I've seen come up, I thought I'd put them all in one place to answer.. I didn't see them addressed anywhere, knowing would help me make a decision.

1) Are there Push Notifications available as one of the features?

2) Is there a Loyalty Program function as an available feature?

3) Can You Download (or send) the Apps Directly from the Platform (bypassing Apple and Android marketplace approval)?

4) Can my client access an (unbranded) admin area/page to update their own app?

5) QR'd Demos available?


I have to agree with some saying this could be the Mobile WSO of the Year..

Great Job!

[Cruizer]

Here is my quick take:

I bought this early. Seemed like a no brainer to me because I was in "another" app builder service that was sold here. In comparison. I was going to pay what seems now to be an extraordinarily outrageous monthly fee for....not much.

After seeing that one, and now looking at the capabilities of this one. I am happy with what I am getting at my price point. What Ive paid now, in comparison to what I would have been paying, leaves me a bit of breathing room. Breathing room, to learn how to build, how to market, and to get more clients. That's big in itself for me.

Here is my caveat: This platform has soooo much more functionality then the "other" one that its almost overwhelming. You have to put your think caps on to start picking it up. However, there are videos that SC has put out that explain a lot, and get you on the right path.

Seems to me the only limit here, bar being an actually programmer, is your own technical abilities. The more you learn, the better your APPS will be. With the "other", I was already thinking of things that the platform just couldn't do. (I reached its limit in just hours!)

The members/building area still needs work as far as some graphics and adding in helpful tuts etc...but you can start building right away.

So as long as Amber et. al...continue to build on top of this platform, adding in more and more functionality...making it easier for users to build and submit quickly...and you are interested in building apps for whatever reason....its worth a shot IMO.

The guys who came over from the "other" APP platform already, know what I'm talking about.

May the Internet smile on you.

[CatServant]

Originally Posted by NickMann

Amber... This looks AWESOME..

Just a few questions I've seen come up, I thought I'd put them all in one place to answer.. I didn't see them addressed anywhere, knowing would help me make a decision.

1) Are there Push Notifications available as one of the features?

2) Is There a Loyalty Program function as an available features?

3) Can You Download (or send) the Apps Directly from the Platform (bypassing Apple and Android marketplace approval)?

4) Can my client access an (unbranded) admin area/page to update their own app?

5) QR'd Demos available?


I have to agree with some saying this could be the Mobile WSO of the Year..

Great Job!

Wow! He read my mind with every question! I sooo look forward to hearing more! I have already been through 2 of the other "resources" mentioned and was not very happy...in fact, completely pissed off by one of them.

I do have an additonal question. What type of Customer Service will you be offering besides the forum? Phone? Just email? I know that you mentioned that you would have really fast, helpful, CS. I was just wondering which types would be available.

[britannia]

i purchased this on friday its now tuesday and theres no sign of any new templates I still only see 4 pages, wheres the rest that were promised?

[soup7564]

Originally Posted by britannia

i purchased this on friday its now tuesday and theres no sign of any new templates I still only see 4 pages, wheres the rest that were promised?

I think they are still being uploaded

[sipero]

Originally Posted by anthonyrude

Im assuming these apps can be downloaded directly from your platform?

In othe words, we do not need to have them listed on play or itunes for our customers to start promoting their own apps.

Thanks for all you help.

While Apps can be downloaded this is only by the account holder. With Andriod this is less of a problem as you can distribute these files yourself and can be installed on Android devices as outlined several times in this thread. However the same does not apply with iphone/ipad.

So certainly in respect of iphone/ipad what you state is not true and really you need these approved in appstore.

[sipero]

Originally Posted by NickMann

Amber... This looks AWESOME..

Just a few questions I've seen come up, I thought I'd put them all in one place to answer.. I didn't see them addressed anywhere, knowing would help me make a decision.

1) Are there Push Notifications available as one of the features?

2) Is there a Loyalty Program function as an available feature?

3) Can You Download (or send) the Apps Directly from the Platform (bypassing Apple and Android marketplace approval)?

4) Can my client access an (unbranded) admin area/page to update their own app?

5) QR'd Demos available?


I have to agree with some saying this could be the Mobile WSO of the Year..

Great Job!

1) Push notifications are included
2) Loyalty program included
3) Not possible with Apple due to the limitations that Apple have as part of their system (read other posts on this thread for greater detail) but with Android you can download your app
4) No access for client to update their app. You could give client ability to update a mobile site for example if this forms the changeable content
5) Not at this time but can be added

[dezfutak]

Originally Posted by sipero

1) Push notifications are included
2) Loyalty program included
3) Not possible with Apple due to the limitations that Apple have as part of their system (read other posts on this thread for greater detail) but with Android you can download your app
4) No access for client to update their app. You could give client ability to update a mobile site for example if this forms the changeable content
5) Not at this time but can be added

As ever, Mr Sipero - hot on the support!

Many thanks,

Dez.

[jubilee]

Originally Posted by soup7564

I've also signed up with this, thanks Amber!

I have a question for people who have been selling apps to business owners, in particular Jubilee and Jeremy, do you also charge a monthly fee on top of the one-off set up charge? I've seen people suggesting to charge $69-$99 per month for "hosting, updates and push notifications". This seems a bit prohibitive. Are business owners paying these kinds of amounts?

We do both routes soup7564. There are some clients that we charge an upfront fee and a monthly fee but then there are those who pay a lot more upfront plus order other services from us so we don't nickel and dime them. When you're closing deals for $1,997, $2,497, $3,750 and $11,000 you can afford to throw in some things like hosting or monthly maintenance of their apps.

Now before everyone gets excited (or as my husband would say "a techno woody") about the $11,000 deal those are not as common but they are out there. Our lowest we've sold mobile apps for is $697 with a minimum monthly hosting/maintenance fee of $67. Those monthly fees can go as high as you want but we typically are charging $77 to $97 per month. Any monthly fees above that involves bundling our services with SMS Text Messaging, QR Code Marketing Campaigns with Monthly Reporting, SMO (Social Media Optimization), SMM (Social Media Management), Online Rep Management, etc. etc. etc.

My best advice to you is to stop thinking for the client and worrying about them not wanting to pay the monthly fees. That isn't the only money there is to make here. Get a bigger upfront fee or finance the deal and make more money long-term. That way you have monthly payments coming in from the clients plus a little bit of finance charges. Sure you may have some who try to stop paying but all you do is take their site down, disable their SMS account or take down their app. Now we insure that we're getting at least a decent "down payment" from them before we're willing to allow them to make monthly payments. Usually it's half down.

Then there are times when we can barter for deals. If you need new windows in your home and approach a Window Installation company you can probably work something out with them so that you pay very little or nothing at all while trading them for an app creation package especially if you're customizing it for them with their logos and such. God knows that's a lot of hard work and hours of coding you have to stress to them. Wink Wink

Here's a picture of the custom six figure pool we installed last year that we paid cash for and bartered some of our talents for some of the custom hand made rock work:



Here are our reasons why we do what we do:


My husband Mark, me, daughter Isis, son Kiah and babygirl Sabrea.

I'm not sharing this stuff with you all to show off or gloat. I'm trying to motivate and inspire you. Don't focus on the negative. Think positive and be confident when approaching business owners about this stuff. As Mark always says "KNOW your products and services! Potential clients can smell your fear a mile away and these business owners want to work with someone who is confident! If you don't know this stuff you can always outsource!!"

I can't say for certain that folks reading this thread can all ask for and get the same amount of money. We all live in different areas and if the cost of living is cheaper than usually the service rates are cheaper in that area. Is that true 100% of the time? Certainly not but even here in Southern California we charge different rates in different areas. We charge much more in Los Angeles County and Orange County than we do in San Bernardino County or Riverside County. It's a different demographic and geographic location. Real Estate's cheaper in certain areas and in those areas usually the cost of living is cheaper so you have to take that into account. You also want to take into account is that client going to be a pain in the rear to work with or easy to get along with. Those that are kind to us get the same treatment from us. Those who think they're going to pay us thousands to start yelling at us or tell us what to do we fire!

Bottom line is find your reason why and just do it. The more rejection you face the thicker your skin will get, you'll start to learn how to handle objections and begin to become a better closer. It takes time to master these skills. You can't go out overnight and begin to close $10K to $20K per month out the gate. If it were that easy everyone would be on it.

Hope that helped soup7564.

Originally Posted by jharri

Hi Jubilee. My concern is that I go out and start getting orders for apps for my offline clients and then I can't get them published. Since you sell alot of these, I am wondering how you deal with apps that are rejected (or have you been able to get every app you sold published?). I know you can tweak the app and resubmit, but have you got to the point where you have had to refund the client because you couldn't deliver?

Any advice/ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,
Jim

We never do refunds. Period! We always find a way to get whatever job or project we've committed to done and accomplished even if we have to outsource part or all of the job. This sometimes means convincing the owner that our way will get the app through and that they need to let us do our job. They hired us for a reason and should let us focus on what we do.

It's all about setting the level of expectation. We let the customers know upfront that Apple apps cost more than the Android apps because they take more time and effort to get them through into the marketplace. If they choose not to pay the extra fee or can't afford it some business owners fore go the Apple version and just start with the Android version of their app.

There are always work arounds too. You can leverage the Ad Hoc version of the Apple app for Beta testing and installs on up to 100 devices but that is outside the scope of this conversation. We use to do that a lot when we use to create apps with BuzzTouch but this platform that Amber rolled out is much nicer. The other way requires you to sign the app, compile on a MAC, identify the devices you'll be installing on, using a third-party site to install from, etc. etc. I prefer the SC way or CreateCoolApps way better because now they do the heavy lifting for you after you've created your apps and added your Apple Developer's cert to your account.

I wouldn't stress too much. Close the deal first. Make sure the check clears and I'm sure you'll figure it out as you go. Apple isn't always saying no. There are tons of example apps to look at in the Apple marketplace to get inspiration from. That is how we started. There was no one there to hold our hands so we depended on forum communities out there and doing our own trial and errors. Mark got so upset a couple years ago when he first started creating apps that figuring out the whole MAC way of doing it was driving him nuts. He almost tossed the office iMac 24 inch he was working on. Thank God he got it all figured out but now with CreateCoolApps you all don't have to go through that.

Okay this post is long enough. Hope this helps you Jim a.k.a. jharri.

Jubilee

[dh007]

I do know exactly what you mean.

I've managed to develop 14 app on that platform though which I'm happy with but the power here is just so far advanced that my mind is once again spinning with ideas.

Amber did a great job and as Billynick says the monthly is nothing compared to what you could do with this. You won't find anything this good for less.

Come to think of it I'm mad at Amber too for not saving me money by launching earlier. Don't do that again Amber ; )

Bottom line - If you really want to get into apps jump on it and if you don't think its for you what have you lost? A few dollars but not the $997 Billynick and I have huh!

Originally Posted by Billynick

Yes Unfortunately several of us have! We are basically being held hostage while waiting on 1/8 of the functions Amber's system has.

I'm only mad at Amber for not coming out with this 2 weeks earlier so I could possibly get my money back from the Gustapo ... !!

I haven't looke dthat close but if we had a HTML5 option to post to clients websites for direct downloads....that would complete the perfect platform! If Apple won't approve an app you can still offer direct dl's ... Just thinking of the customer here!

Thanks dh007 for your input as well....!!!!...glad I wasn't dreaming! And Found this Platform! I'm super excited!!!! And there are soo many people on this thread asking horrifying questions about a $37 monthly fee! Those of you that are ignorant of the different Platforms...Amber has givin you the keys to something BIG! I've wasted $300.00 on learning how to build a Rihanna App....and a Dentist App...as far as I'm concerned! dh007 will know what I'm talking about! :0

Thanks Amber!

[dh007]

Originally Posted by britannia

i purchased this on friday its now tuesday and theres no sign of any new templates I still only see 4 pages, wheres the rest that were promised?

Hi Britannia

Did you click on the next / previous button below the templates?
There are 4 pages of templates
Very Cool!

[britannia]

Originally Posted by dh007

Hi Britannia

Did you click on the next / previous button below the templates?
There are 4 pages of templates
Very Cool!

yeh 4 pages is what I have...we were all promised a lot more id love to know why its taking so long to add them thats all.

[dh007]

Originally Posted by britannia

yeh 4 pages is what I have...we were all promised a lot more id love to know why its taking so long to add them thats all.

Hi Britannia

There are enough there to get going though. I'm doing a coffee shop app right now.

What is it you want to do?

[Anjan Kumar]

hi , its the fourth day now and i dont see any new templates added to the members area and also the video tutorials.. the broken screenshots still there....please update here..

[Amber Jalink]

Originally Posted by britannia

yeh 4 pages is what I have...we were all promised a lot more id love to know why its taking so long to add them thats all.

Originally Posted by Anjan Kumar

hi , its the fourth day now and i dont see any new templates added to the members area and also the video tutorials.. the broken screenshots still there....please update here..

Hi Britannia and Anjan,

We had loaded (from an original 4) to now it should be at least 15...

Please bear with us, I was really focused/swamped with answering support requests over the past two days, so I didn't get in to finish uploading new apps.

As mentioned, I've got a few new people starting to help for the support desk as of today, so that will help free me back up for finishing a lot.

I even recruited my hubby to help get the rest of the templates uploaded lol - he is out on a contract job during the day (he's a network admin/programmer) so he won't be able to help till tonight, but he's all ready to help. Heck, he's even saying he wants to come back to programming to help us build out the features and enhancements on the system even further (He's got an INSANE nack for troubleshooting and debugging, which is why he's great at what he does).

Yes, I know about the broken images, it's an issue with the template images folder not being called completely right in the system, but I have already put in a request to get that fixed. (I don't have access to do that tidbit otherwise it would have been done by now!) But believe me, they know and they'll have it fixed I expect today.

Going to answer 2-3 more questions then I'll be uploading more again today!

[Amber Jalink]

Originally Posted by Hectorjayat

Hello Amber:
Make I build ebook-alike applications ?
Thanks

Hi Hector - absolutely

Originally Posted by Hectorjayat

Hello Amber:
What will be your site launching date?
I see no promos yet on it.
Please advise
I just want to give you a try.
I'm not that much agree with have to wait for half a day to have access. I hope you get a fix to it in the mean time.

Thanks

I haven't put promos on the public site because honestly at first, my focus was to make this as a much more reasonable solution for Warrior members. It is live and open now, we're just adding in more templates, and the tutorials are coming shortly.

Most won't have to wait a half day for access. Here's how that works.

When you complete payment, you are taken back to a special private page with instructions to register for 2 areas:

- the members area/forum
- the app building access

While you have registered for the members area/forum and are awaiting the approval on that, you CAN immediately go to the app building area and start creating your apps. So really you will barely notice having to wait for the approval on the members area.

As I said, I've added more to the support team (poor Marius is being swamped too LOL) - so this will drastically speed things up as of today.

Originally Posted by MissTR

Hi Amber,

You read my mind (and a lot of others I suppose). I've looked at every single one of those "resources" you mentioned and ended up not buying into ANY of them because of the pricing, and limitations. Yes, I was pulling my hair out.

This was perfect timing. I have a question for you though, as I know you can't mention every single feature. Does your system provide the customer loyalty program (i.e.-"punch card" system) whereby the customer can buy x number of something over a time and then they get something free?

All else looks very promising.

Thanks,
-MissTR

Hi MissTR - Yes it can do the loyalty programs as you are asking

Amber

[soup7564]

I'm really glad that Amber is adding more templates to her platform because I've been using Seattle Clouds and thought that their templates looked clunky, had ugly graphics and just generally looked weird

Thanks Amber!

[Amber Jalink]

Originally Posted by NickMann

Amber... This looks AWESOME..

Just a few questions I've seen come up, I thought I'd put them all in one place to answer.. I didn't see them addressed anywhere, knowing would help me make a decision.

1) Are there Push Notifications available as one of the features?

2) Is there a Loyalty Program function as an available feature?

3) Can You Download (or send) the Apps Directly from the Platform (bypassing Apple and Android marketplace approval)?

4) Can my client access an (unbranded) admin area/page to update their own app?

5) QR'd Demos available?


I have to agree with some saying this could be the Mobile WSO of the Year..

Great Job!

Hi Nick - thanks for your comments I know Sipero answered (Thanks Sipero!), but I thought I'd just add on a bit here.

- Yes there are absolutely push notifications

- Yes there are full loyalty features

- As mentioned, I understand yes you can do it with Android, but to do it with Apple it is my understanding that you have to do it like a demo without using the store. (Apple is very proprietary - this is why many are focusing mostly on the Android)

- For your client question: I'm working on putting this in place as I realize this is a very important thing... however, just remember that 90% of most offline clients (if that's who you focus on) will never care to come in and do it themselves, they'll just prefer to pay you to do it. Saves them having to learn something "techy" when their time is better spent on their own business. (Just saying

- QR Demos... the system totally does it, has its own QR scanner and everything - I'll flag this to get demos in for it too

Originally Posted by CatServant

Wow! He read my mind with every question! I sooo look forward to hearing more! I have already been through 2 of the other "resources" mentioned and was not very happy...in fact, completely pissed off by one of them.

I do have an additonal question. What type of Customer Service will you be offering besides the forum? Phone? Just email? I know that you mentioned that you would have really fast, helpful, CS. I was just wondering which types would be available.

Hi CatServant - hopefully my answers along with Sipero help

For the moment, the customer service is support desk and email, but we'll probably add in phone support soon. That one will take some time though, as we'll need to train CS staff to have more knowledge on using the system before I have them answering calls

On the support desk or by email, it can be handled / transferred to someone more knowledgeable depending on what the question/issue is.

While we do answer some by email, we do prefer the support desk mostly, because it's 1) quickest, 2) doesn't bog down email, and 3) is fully trackable for everyone, including you the customer.

Hope this helps!

Amber

[Amber Jalink]

Originally Posted by soup7564

I'm really glad that Amber is adding more templates to her platform because I've been using Seattle Clouds and thought that their templates looked clunky, had ugly graphics and just generally looked weird

Thanks Amber!

Just took a peek at the image folders I got back from one person doing a bunch of backgrounds for me...

396 cool backgrounds that will be added
36 new niche backgrounds (for specific business types)...

and another 400 coming LOL

Okay - I'm off to upload more templates

Amber

[britannia]

Originally Posted by Amber Jalink

Hi Britannia and Anjan,

We had loaded (from an original 4) to now it should be at least 15...

Please bear with us, I was really focused/swamped with answering support requests over the past two days, so I didn't get in to finish uploading new apps.

As mentioned, I've got a few new people starting to help for the support desk as of today, so that will help free me back up for finishing a lot.

I even recruited my hubby to help get the rest of the templates uploaded lol - he is out on a contract job during the day (he's a network admin/programmer) so he won't be able to help till tonight, but he's all ready to help. Heck, he's even saying he wants to come back to programming to help us build out the features and enhancements on the system even further (He's got an INSANE nack for troubleshooting and debugging, which is why he's great at what he does).

Yes, I know about the broken images, it's an issue with the template images folder not being called completely right in the system, but I have already put in a request to get that fixed. (I don't have access to do that tidbit otherwise it would have been done by now!) But believe me, they know and they'll have it fixed I expect today.

Going to answer 2-3 more questions then I'll be uploading more again today!

ok no problem

[NetMediaGeek]

Hi Amber

I tried Skybuilder for a few days and while it wasn't a bad builder it was a little expensive. Does your platform work in a similar way ? I was able to create small business APPs in around 20mins with it would I be looking at a similar timescale with your builder. Do you have a demo of the builder in action ?

[bluecoyotemedia]

Amber


how many templates are currently loaded in the system??

thanks

eddie

[Amber Jalink]

Originally Posted by NetMediaGeek

Hi Amber

I tried Skybuilder for a few days and while it wasn't a bad builder it was a little expensive. Does your platform work in a similar way ? I was able to create small business APPs in around 20mins with it would I be looking at a similar timescale with your builder. Do you have a demo of the builder in action ?

At first it might take you longer, but in a short period of time yes, I do believe you could do one in 20 min. The first time I did it, it took me around an hour (just getting used to where everything was, how to change things etc), but now I can build one in about 15 min if I have everything ready (the content I want in etc). I've found the graphics take the longest (i.e., the app icons) - I started outsourcing some of that stuff though so now I don't worry about it. (I'm not a pro at creating rounded corners LOL).

Jeremy Kelsall created a demo walk through, it's on one of the previous pages here - we have one coming shortly too, not sure when it'll be up if its today or tomorrow.

Originally Posted by bluecoyotemedia

Amber


how many templates are currently loaded in the system??

thanks

eddie

I just counted - so far 14, but by the end of today, should be closer to 40.

Amber

[artshinobi]

Hi Jubilee, That's an inspiring motivational messages in #417, its like a push notification on me to hurry up and move the cheese Lol So would like to ask you a question if you don't mind:

How can I approached a question like this from a client (This business woman is ready to give a kick on my product as long as I able to deliver the right and exact word she need to hear.)

Business woman: " How on earth will my business earned revenue from Mobile apps?"

Thanks in advance Jubilee ^^

[keung0109]

Hi
Maybe I miss something !
Is the apps hosting by you or we have to host by ourselves

Thanks

[callmefay]

Hi Amber,

I've purchased the Business level quickly before the price going up but after I read the posts here I realized that what I need is actually a personal level. The payment has been marked as completed.

Can you change my subscription to personal level or should we go all over again by you refunding my $37 and then I purchase the $17 personal again?

What info I should provide to change my subscription level to personal and where should I send the info to?

PS: This is my first time purchase with recurring payment via Paypal and my first time purchase via JVZoo so I'm a bit confused...

Appreciate your help,
Fay

[sipero]

Originally Posted by keung0109

Hi
Maybe I miss something !
Is the apps hosting by you or we have to host by ourselves

Thanks

You usually upload to appstore, google play, and/or amazon to host the apps. The platform is for building not hosting the apps.

[jimbo61]

I ahve paid the $37 and have access to the app making dashboard, but to be honest it is a little overwhelming and pretty much impossible without any help files or manual of any description. I click on the forum link and get taken to the home page what is going on there?

I have to say that this product should not have been launched on a monthly recurring basis as currently it simply isn't fit for purpose as it stands.

It is all well and good saying 'hey we are busy, we are run off our feet yaday yada yada, but reality is people have paid you for a service, and that service really isn't ready for release.

I would like to see some solid deadlines in place here, none of this wishy washy empty promises thing that has been going on since launch. I put it to you that this product simply ain't ready to launch yet.

Before people start throwing stones at me I am not a noob, I already have a successfull business that makes me well over 6 figurtes £ not $ . I already have a mobile marketing system, and was looking to slot this one in, but it just aint ready, and in its current form, I believe it is wrong to launch a monthly recurring payment system on its back.

THAT SAID. IF all the issues are sorted it will be great I have no doubt, and well worth the money. currently unless you really know what you are doing with apps, this system is worthless due to the fact there is not a turorial in sight. Or at least not anywhere to be found.

Damn shame, and sorry to rain on the parade here, but I don't do the back patting that many seem to go for.

[jimbo61]

Originally Posted by artshinobi

Hi Jubilee, That's an inspiring motivational messages in #417, its like a push notification on me to hurry up and move the cheese Lol So would like to ask you a question if you don't mind:

How can I approached a question like this from a client (This business woman is ready to give a kick on my product as long as I able to deliver the right and exact word she need to hear.)

Business woman: " How on earth will my business earned revenue from Mobile apps?"

Thanks in advance Jubilee ^^

I am not Jubillee, but my reply to that would be.

Every day desktop search is dropping, and every day mobile search is rising. within 12 months, more search will be on Mobile than desktop. people searching on mobile want mobile content, by giving them what they want, they will use YOU rather than a competitor who doesn't!

Mobile apps will allow you to give your customers exatly what they are looking for.

of course you can choose not to and sit by and watch while your competitors give them what they want!

[aldin30]

Originally Posted by mross55

Amber, apologies if this has already been answered....

Once you've set up a client's app, will they be able to have access to do updates and push notifications without them seeing my other clients accounts or personal info?
thanks

I'd also like to know about the push notifications

regards

Aldin

[Craig Johnson]

Originally Posted by jimbo61

I ahve paid the $37 and have access to the app making dashboard, but to be honest it is a little overwhelming and pretty much impossible without any help files or manual of any description. I click on the forum link and get taken to the home page what is going on there?

I have to say that this product should not have been launched on a monthly recurring basis as currently it simply isn't fit for purpose as it stands.

It is all well and good saying 'hey we are busy, we are run off our feet yaday yada yada, but reality is people have paid you for a service, and that service really isn't ready for release.

I would like to see some solid deadlines in place here, none of this wishy washy empty promises thing that has been going on since launch. I put it to you that this product simply ain't ready to launch yet.

Before people start throwing stones at me I am not a noob, I already have a successfull business that makes me well over 6 figurtes £ not $ . I already have a mobile marketing system, and was looking to slot this one in, but it just aint ready, and in its current form, I believe it is wrong to launch a monthly recurring payment system on its back.

THAT SAID. IF all the issues are sorted it will be great I have no doubt, and well worth the money. currently unless you really know what you are doing with apps, this system is worthless due to the fact there is not a turorial in sight. Or at least not anywhere to be found.

Damn shame, and sorry to rain on the parade here, but I don't do the back patting that many seem to go for.

Hey jimbo61,

Your best bet is to head over to Seattle Clouds mate and check out the tutorials there. You can create a free account and its the same system as Ambers. Obviously there should be tutorials available in CCA but until then its a good place to start.

[Amber Jalink]

Originally Posted by callmefay

Hi Amber,

I've purchased the Business level quickly before the price going up but after I read the posts here I realized that what I need is actually a personal level. The payment has been marked as completed.

Can you change my subscription to personal level or should we go all over again by you refunding my $37 and then I purchase the $17 personal again?

What info I should provide to change my subscription level to personal and where should I send the info to?

PS: This is my first time purchase with recurring payment via Paypal and my first time purchase via JVZoo so I'm a bit confused...

Appreciate your help,
Fay

Hi Fay,

I'll go in and refund the payment and cancel the subscription - then you should see it (I'll let you know though) and you can rejoin through the $17 level

Just give me a sec.

Amber

[jimbo61]

Originally Posted by Craig Johnson

Hey jimbo61,

Your best bet is to head over to Seattle Clouds mate and check out the tutorials there. You can create a free account and its the same system as Ambers. Obviously there should be tutorials available in CCA but until then its a good place to start.

Thanks,

It isn't me that will be using the system it will be an empolyee, I wanted to look at it and evaluate it first, to see how it compares to the systems we are using right now.

Appreciate the answer though

[Amber Jalink]

Originally Posted by jimbo61

I ahve paid the $37 and have access to the app making dashboard, but to be honest it is a little overwhelming and pretty much impossible without any help files or manual of any description. I click on the forum link and get taken to the home page what is going on there?

I have to say that this product should not have been launched on a monthly recurring basis as currently it simply isn't fit for purpose as it stands.

It is all well and good saying 'hey we are busy, we are run off our feet yaday yada yada, but reality is people have paid you for a service, and that service really isn't ready for release.

I would like to see some solid deadlines in place here, none of this wishy washy empty promises thing that has been going on since launch. I put it to you that this product simply ain't ready to launch yet.

Before people start throwing stones at me I am not a noob, I already have a successfull business that makes me well over 6 figurtes £ not $ . I already have a mobile marketing system, and was looking to slot this one in, but it just aint ready, and in its current form, I believe it is wrong to launch a monthly recurring payment system on its back.

THAT SAID. IF all the issues are sorted it will be great I have no doubt, and well worth the money. currently unless you really know what you are doing with apps, this system is worthless due to the fact there is not a turorial in sight. Or at least not anywhere to be found.

Damn shame, and sorry to rain on the parade here, but I don't do the back patting that many seem to go for.

Hi Jimbo,

First off - the forum link - if you're logged in, simply click the "Forum" link in the top menu. (Won't appear until logged in). That is a full members/cms system, so when you log in it won't take you to the forum directly upon login unless you click it.

The help files and tutorials ARE being added (click around in the members area), some already have been but mainly everything will be done THIS week. (As in over the next 3 days).

Done by Friday. (Can't promise all videos in that time though!)

Not sure why you think there's been "wishy washy promises" through out the launch though on getting things done, nothing was wishy washy - we didn't expect so many people to love it so quickly - AND we have to wait on support for a few issues just like everyone else.

For some things (like broken images) - I have no control over, and they do not answer support issues at all over the weekend... we do.

As has been mentioned in other posts, we've added more support staff to ensure we're freed up to FINISH the templates and tutorials this week.

And (just for the record), many people have already been creating AND publishing apps... and others have already been getting clients, so to say it's not ready, just isn't true. It's just not perfected yet, but those who have been getting through and releasing have been cross-referencing with the SC tutorials as suggested.

Sorry for your frustrations - we'll be up to par momentarily.

Amber

[artshinobi]

Originally Posted by jimbo61

I am not Jubillee, but my reply to that would be.

Every day desktop search is dropping, and every day mobile search is rising. within 12 months, more search will be on Mobile than desktop. people searching on mobile want mobile content, by giving them what they want, they will use YOU rather than a competitor who doesn't!

Mobile apps will allow you to give your customers exatly what they are looking for.

of course you can choose not to and sit by and watch while your competitors give them what they want!

Wow, That's a nice Line Jimbo, Thanks

Though, hope to hear also from Jubilee

[Amber Jalink]

Sent you a PM with instructions on sending me an email so I can match up your account with your payment.

Amber

Originally Posted by callmefay

Hi Amber,

I've purchased the Business level quickly before the price going up but after I read the posts here I realized that what I need is actually a personal level. The payment has been marked as completed.

Can you change my subscription to personal level or should we go all over again by you refunding my $37 and then I purchase the $17 personal again?

What info I should provide to change my subscription level to personal and where should I send the info to?

PS: This is my first time purchase with recurring payment via Paypal and my first time purchase via JVZoo so I'm a bit confused...

Appreciate your help,
Fay

[ZNICK]

Originally Posted by 6879768

I have to say that this product should not have been launched on a monthly recurring basis as currently it simply isn't fit for purpose as it stands.

It is all well and good saying 'hey we are busy, we are run off our feet yaday yada yada, but reality is people have paid you for a service, and that service really isn't ready for release.

I put it to you that this product simply ain't ready to launch yet.

Before people start throwing stones at me I am not a noob, I already have a successfull business that makes me well over 6 figurtes £ not $ . I already have a mobile marketing system, and was looking to slot this one in, but it just aint ready, and in its current form, I believe it is wrong to launch a monthly recurring payment system on its back.

THAT SAID. IF all the issues are sorted it will be great I have no doubt, and well worth the money. currently unless you really know what you are doing with apps, this system is worthless due to the fact there is not a turorial in sight. Or at least not anywhere to be found.

ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND?

There's HUNDREDS... if not thousands of people paying $99 A MONTH for the EXACT same service you're paying under forty bucks for. It's been around for years.

It's finished. Complete... and better than anything on the market. You obviously haven't looked around.

You want hand-holding? Google the dozens of Seattle Clouds videos that show you step by step how to use the software. (or send me a PM and I'll send you a link to a program that teaches you step by step how to do it... but it costs a few $)

And the few people who are whining that there's not enough templates, your priorities are out of whack. How many businesses have paid you to make an app for them? How many apps do you have for sale? That's what I thought...

What you should do, is create a "template" for an info app and a small business app, then when you're ready to build, copy that app and copy and paste to fill in the blanks.

Sheesh.

Negative people piss me off, I apologize if I hurt anyone's feelings... I think.

Z

[artshinobi]

Just an opinion...
What's the difference on Seattle Clouds and Amber Clouds? lol
Nothing. It's just that Amber got the $$$ publisher subscription of SC and mark it down so low that everyone may avail it ( ofcourse there's a buffer period, all business came in into this...)

To find this best offer is like hearing the sweetest song in the alley

[sipero]

Originally Posted by artshinobi

Just an opinion...
What's the difference on Seattle Clouds and Amber Clouds? lol
Nothing. It's just that Amber got the $$$ publisher subscription of SC and mark it down so low that everyone may avail it ( ofcourse there's a buffer period, all business came in into this...)

To find this best offer is like hearing the sweetest song in the alley

You are largely right when you say there is no difference with Seattle Clouds but you are missing out the fact that Amber is adding in a whole lot more in terms of templates and graphics for example. Additionally there are extra options that Amber is including at either low cost or no cost. (check out what Seattle Clouds charge for an app buy out for example)

AdHoc Distribution Build for iphone Seattle Clouds charge $69.99 for this Amber makes no extra charge, not something everyone needs but yet another example of the exceptional value you get

[artshinobi]

Originally Posted by sipero

You are largely right when you say there is no difference with Seattle Clouds but you are missing out the fact that Amber is adding in a whole lot more in terms of templates and graphics for example. Additionally there are extra options that Amber is including at either low cost or no cost. (check out what Seattle Clouds charge for an app buy out for example)

AdHoc Distribution Build for iphone Seattle Clouds charge $69.99 for this Amber makes no extra charge, not something everyone needs but yet another example of the exceptional value you get

Sorry to missed out that mate, though I just want to emphasized the functionality between the two has no difference, We just need little more time and patience to achieved cool apps best functionality -- + a lot lot more! Haha

Knowing how expensive and best functionality Seattle Clouds could have, having this offer is a Party

[Always-A-Warrior]

Does anyone have any samples?
If I purchase the $17 deal, can I later upgrade to $27 for business?.

2 birds with 1 stone.

[sipero]

Originally Posted by Always-A-Warrior

Does anyone have any samples?
If I purchase the $17 deal, can I later upgrade to $27 for business?.

2 birds with 1 stone.

Yes you can upgrade from personal to business (currently $37 not $27) as already stated by Amber a few times in this thread. There are a few samples already posted by members and additionally you'll see the type of thing you create by checking out the Seattle Clouds portfolio with several hundred apps

[Amber Jalink]

Great news for those who want to know....

YES You CAN give your clients a private log in to send their push notifications

And we finally got to the bottom of the images issues, and I'm fixing it now... (THEN we'll add more templates). It didn't make sense to keep adding them if there was an issue so we tackled that first.

[shrivasv]

Personally, I like $37/mnth price for unlimited apps, all white labeled and ability to put ads... I will recommend to any one .. I am still playing aroudn with this will post my apps building experience and demo app soon.

[jubilee]

Originally Posted by artshinobi

Hi Jubilee, That's an inspiring motivational messages in #417, its like a push notification on me to hurry up and move the cheese Lol So would like to ask you a question if you don't mind:

How can I approached a question like this from a client (This business woman is ready to give a kick on my product as long as I able to deliver the right and exact word she need to hear.)

Business woman: " How on earth will my business earned revenue from Mobile apps?"

Thanks in advance Jubilee ^^

artshinobi I believe that 's a little tough to answer without knowing what type of business this person is involved in or having more background information on her but going to take a stab at it anyways!

First feel confident in knowing you already know more than 95% of business owners know about Mobile Marketing/Mobile apps.

Second statistically speaking I've seen reports and articles state that there are roughly 7 smartphones out there per every PC in the world. So why not reach your customers where they are at... on their phones. We never leave home without our cellphones, keys or wallets right? Well most of us don't

Third a Mobile app can do so much more than just display a web site or coupon. It can engage a customer or potential customer. You can leverage your mobile app to educate your customer. You can use it to offer support or special discounts for VIPs who download and install the app. It's not only a marketing tool but communication tool as it allows for everything to be balled up into one device where she can reach her customers first before anyone else. It is as my husband would say "The most valuable real estate you can own... an icon on the home screen of someone's phone because there you are always top of mind! You are the first person they think of when they go to make a call or go to search for a business that provides the services you do!!" My husband is a pretty smart guy if I do say so myself.

I believe it was last year that Google reported around Black Friday that 60% of all search was being conducted on mobile devicez. Another report that I read back in 2011 stated that by 2013 more folks will be searching on their mobile devices than on their PC's. Personally I believe we're already there but who am I to say.

Well don't want this being a huge long post because (A) don't want to be hogging up the thread and (B) have a huge project I'm working on with my husband.

Take care and hope this helped.
J

UPDATE:

Came across these stats so thought I would share them with everyone...



As you see different reports from different resources will say different things but the bottom line is one needs to at least start putting some thought into positioning themselves to leverage Mobile Marketing period!

Originally Posted by jimbo61

I ahve paid the $37 and have access to the app making dashboard, but to be honest it is a little overwhelming and pretty much impossible without any help files or manual of any description. I click on the forum link and get taken to the home page what is going on there?

I have to say that this product should not have been launched on a monthly recurring basis as currently it simply isn't fit for purpose as it stands.

It is all well and good saying 'hey we are busy, we are run off our feet yaday yada yada, but reality is people have paid you for a service, and that service really isn't ready for release.

I would like to see some solid deadlines in place here, none of this wishy washy empty promises thing that has been going on since launch. I put it to you that this product simply ain't ready to launch yet.

Before people start throwing stones at me I am not a noob, I already have a successfull business that makes me well over 6 figurtes £ not $ . I already have a mobile marketing system, and was looking to slot this one in, but it just aint ready, and in its current form, I believe it is wrong to launch a monthly recurring payment system on its back.

THAT SAID. IF all the issues are sorted it will be great I have no doubt, and well worth the money. currently unless you really know what you are doing with apps, this system is worthless due to the fact there is not a turorial in sight. Or at least not anywhere to be found.

Damn shame, and sorry to rain on the parade here, but I don't do the back patting that many seem to go for.

jimbo61 I wouldn't throw stones at anyone but I have to say I disagree with "currently it simply isn't fit for purpose as it stands." I do not work for Amber nor am I being paid to say this...

I've been using the system just fine. I've created apps and already sold a few. Are there some gremlins giving Amber a hard time here and there? Maybe but I honestly have to say I can't beat the support and community. Not trying to pat her or anyone on the back. It is what it is. I'm easily creating apps with the system even though there may be some images missing but those are just small screen capture examples to show what the app screen looks like during the choosing of templates but the main image is there. The first image and that is all I need. If I want to see more of the images I just hop on over to Seattle Clouds and use my free account to preview the templates.

Now speaking of templates IMHO there is no need for hundreds or thousands of templates because most of the time we'll be customizing the app for the individual clients and once you create a template that you like you can just clone it to use it over and over again. This platform makes it super easy to just choose a template and modify the heck out of it til you get the desired outcome so not sure why folks would feel they need pages upon pages of templates. Folks again worrying about who moved their cheese instead of playing with the system and becoming familiar with it. I can spit out apps with this thing in 20 minutes if I wanted to. Probably even less because it's truly easy. Again not trying to blow smoke up anyone's rear.

The above about templates wasn't necessarily referring to you jimbo61. Just had to address that really quick.

Personally I have not experienced anything that will stop me or slow me down from creating apps with the system. It's a private label version of Seattle Clouds and between Amber's support, the forum and the Seattle Clouds site one should be able to navigate through the system to accomplish whatever it is they're trying to accomplish in my humble opinion which just like you I'm entitled too.

Oh yeah and you can't beat the price

Stay blessed
J

Originally Posted by jimbo61

I am not Jubillee, but my reply to that would be.

Every day desktop search is dropping, and every day mobile search is rising. within 12 months, more search will be on Mobile than desktop. people searching on mobile want mobile content, by giving them what they want, they will use YOU rather than a competitor who doesn't!

Mobile apps will allow you to give your customers exatly what they are looking for.

of course you can choose not to and sit by and watch while your competitors give them what they want!

Thanks for contributing jimbo61. We're all kind of in this together I suppose and I do not always have the time to come read the thread and answer questions for folks so glad when others help out. It shows that we are sort of like a community helping each other along. We all started at the ground level in our business at some point right? Unless we were born with silver spoons in our mouths or as we say where we're from "Bling"

Originally Posted by artshinobi

Wow, That's a nice Line Jimbo, Thanks


Though, hope to hear also from Jubilee

artshinobi I hope my above reply helped!

Stay blessed
Jubilee

p.s..
Working on a huge project today with my husband so may not be back all that regularly as that and other projects due out this week. Plus I'm a mother of 2 in college, 1 in high school and 1 in third grade so my mommy schedule alone keeps me busy. Heck it's high school football season people!! FRIDAY NIGHT LIGHTS!!

[jimbo61]

Originally Posted by ZNICK

ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND?

There's HUNDREDS... if not thousands of people paying $99 A MONTH for the EXACT same service you're paying under forty bucks for. It's been around for years.

It's finished. Complete... and better than anything on the market. You obviously haven't looked around.

You want hand-holding? Google the dozens of Seattle Clouds videos that show you step by step how to use the software. (or send me a PM and I'll send you a link to a program that teaches you step by step how to do it... but it costs a few $)

And the few people who are whining that there's not enough templates, your priorities are out of whack. How many businesses have paid you to make an app for them? How many apps do you have for sale? That's what I thought...

What you should do, is create a "template" for an info app and a small business app, then when you're ready to build, copy that app and copy and paste to fill in the blanks.

Sheesh.

Negative people piss me off, I apologize if I hurt anyone's feelings... I think.

Z

And smart asses piss me off, so that makes us even I guess.

Look lets get this striaght, a product is being sold right at this moment in time, the product owner has in this thread stated it isn't ready, yet you and others thank them and criticise me.

Sorry i dared to be critical. A bit of reality is needed I feel.

I had to come to a forum to be told to go to a competitors website to learn how to use the product I have bought. doesn't THAT tell you it isn't quite ready to launch

For the record I am not a negative person, and i don't care if I pay £2 or £2000 if the product isn'[t right, i will complain. and that IMo is the case here, backed up by the product owner who has posted many times stating the product isn't complete.

As I said, when completed it will likely be ace and top notch, but finished it certainly isn't. I do find it laughable that you state a product review as negative. maybe I should just join the back patting crowd and endorse everything (with an afffiliate link of course )

I am not grinding an axe here. here is the funny thing, this is an honest review, but because it doesn't pat backs and rub egos some all shitty. makes me smile does that. people who don't like honesty but probably wallow in BS and coporate speak.

I have said what I have said, it is an honest appraisal of how i see it, for whatever reason, things are as they are. I didn't realise this was a popularity contest, I thought it was a forum, a place where people are allowed to post honestly and openly about things. We live and learn i guess.

[suekulpinski]

Would love to see someone answer the frequently asked question: can clients do their own push notifications without accessing our platform?

Also, is the system sophisticated enough to do online ordering for restaurants? Fan Wall? Email photo in (insurance, lawyers).

Thanks!!!

[jubilee]

Originally Posted by suekulpinski

Would love to see someone answer the frequently asked question: can clients do their own push notifications without accessing our platform?

Also, is the system sophisticated enough to do online ordering for restaurants? Fan Wall? Email photo in (insurance, lawyers).

Thanks!!!

Are folks even reading this thread???

The answer you seek was just posted by Amber in large bold lettering at the top of this page. It's just a few posts above yours.

Folks really need to take the time to read the thread and post their questions on the HelpDesk. It would sure make things more streamlined here that's for sure.

In case you still can't see the answer to your question suekulpinski here it is quoted directly from Amber:

Originally Posted by Amber Jalink

Great news for those who want to know....

YES You CAN give your clients a private log in to send their push notifications

And we finally got to the bottom of the images issues, and I'm fixing it now... (THEN we'll add more templates). It didn't make sense to keep adding them if there was an issue so we tackled that first.

And this system is sophisticated enough to handle pretty much anything because if it is not a part already built into the system there is a way to add your own code to a page so if you're a hard coder you can go to town with it. Plus in an earlier post Amber posted a lot of this system's capabilities which are too many to list here again. I would say rest assured that it can handle whatever it is you're trying to do. You can always outsource the coding for something custom if it's not already built into the system.

Hope that helps.
Jubilee

Here's where folks can seek support:
Support

I know this thread is long... believe me I've read every post but that doesn't mean that folks should be lazy and not at least skim through to see if the answers you seek are already in here some where. One of the reasons for the delay to Amber getting a lot of the stuff done is because folks are asking the same questions over and over and no matter how many times Amber, myself or the other Warriors answer them folks keep asking them again.

If this is any indication in how some folks run their business then I fear they may be in trouble or at least know the cause of why they are in trouble. No one's time is more important than Amber or the other Warriors on here who continue to answer questions and support this thread so it would be nice if you have questions skim the thread to see if it has not been answer 10 different times and in 10 different ways.

Please don't be upset with me but someone needs to remind folks that 80 to 90% of the questions being asked here have already been answered. Just perform a search on the page and find what you're looking for. Both Internet Explorer and Firefox have that ability to on a page and hit on a word. You may come across some interesting posts that give you so much more information and ideas that you were not even seeking or thinking of.

Okay gotta go now because kids are getting out of school and have a Cheer Mom's meeting.

Take care.

[peterj]

Originally Posted by suekulpinski

Would love to see someone answer the frequently asked question: can clients do their own push notifications without accessing our platform?

Thanks!!!

Read the first post on this page!