Warrior Forum Rules

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Hey Warriors,

We've decided to collate all the forum rules in one place to reduce confusion and make it easier for everyone to know what is and is not allowed on the forum.

We've also made small changes to the rules where we've seen a need, these changes will be gradually enforced over the coming weeks.

These will be updated when necessary.
  1. General
    1. You are only permitted one account per person.
    2. Username changes are not permitted.
    3. Do not harass, personally attack, blackmail, spam or bully buyers and/or other Warrior Forum members.
    4. The selling of accounts is prohibited
    5. Shameless self promotion such as 'see my sig' or 'pm me for more details' is prohibited.
    6. In line links are allowed and even encouraged as long as they are not selling anything and expand specifically on the concept being discussed. Marketplace listings are of course exempt from this rule.
    7. If you have a problem with anyone, take it up with them privately. No naming or shaming here since there are two sides to every story.

  2. Contributing to the Forum
    1. Excessive use of capitalization, special characters, colours or font/image size will result in deletion/editing by an admin of the title and/or body of the post.
    2. We retain the right to move threads to more suitable sub forums where applicable.
    3. Posting must add value to the relevant discussion. To thank someone for a contribution use the ‘thanks’ button or upvote the discussion.
    4. Excessive consecutive posts in a single thread by the same author may be merged into one post.

  3. Signatures
    1. Excessive use of capitalization and/or special characters will result in deletion/editing by an admin. If you want to be safe don't use any, however, If it's done tastefully we won't mind. Tastefulness is subjective and up to our discretion.
    2. Sig files may only be written in the normal standard font size.
    3. Sig file text may only be black.
    4. You may bold or italicize it.
    5. Maximum length of sig file is 2 lines which includes any blank lines used for spaces. This excludes an image.
    6. Your signature must link to your own domain or a listing owned by you on any of the Warrior Market Places. If you have paid for an image signature you are exempt from this rule.
    7. Your signature cannot link to any of the blacklisted content types as detailed in Rule 4.10 below.

  4. Sellers (Applies to entire sales funnel)
    1. No income guarantees.
    2. Money back guarantees may or may not be offered. If offered guarantees must adhere to the following.
      1. Guarantees can be limited to a window of time after the point of sale.
      2. Guarantees can be conditional on fulfilment of deliverables by the seller.
      3. Guarantees cannot be conditional on the buyer actioning, undertaking or completing anything.
    3. Sellers must not post blind ad/copy. This is an ad/copy where you advise what the product is not rather than what it is. Your product should be clearly understood by both moderators and members.
    4. Resale of MRR/PLR/RR is prohibited apart from in the Classified Marketplace.
    5. Sellers are not permitted to use the Warrior Forum logo, branding or name in their sales copy. The name of your product should not imply that the product is affiliated with the Warrior Forum in any way.
    6. You may use whatever payment provider you wish in order to sell your product.
    7. Sellers are not to make claims around income that has been made unless this income can be verified through Warrior Payments. Sellers are not permitted to make claims about or imply that income will result from purchasing a WSO.
    8. All listings must have a clear deliverable. This can be but is not limited to software, products or services. Services should also have a clear eta on the deliverables.
    9. All rules in section 2 apply in all marketplaces.
    10. All listing are subject to moderator approval before going live. We reserve the right to not approve/delete any threads which may be deemed fraudulent or spam related.
      These include but are not limited to
      • Mass Account Creators
      • E-Mail Harvesters
      • Lead Scrapers
      • Cookie Stuffing Scripts
      • Mass Automation Tools
      • SEO Spam Tools
      • Blog Commenting Tools
      • Wiki Poster Tools
      • Spamming Tools
      • Automation Bots
      • Forum Posting Tools
      • Classified Ad Posters
      • Email Lists
    11. No signatures on marketplaces are allowed.
    12. No fraudulent behaviour such as but not limited to paid testimonials.
    13. No off-site reviews or testimonials. Including but not limited to screen grabs from external conversations.
    14. All testimonials must pertain specifically to the product being sold.
    15. Sellers are not to force email opt ins from customers to gain access to their product. While you are allowed to request the customer to subscribe to your mailing list, this should not be the only way the customer may gain access to your product or service.
    16. All listings must comply with forum rules, the laws of Australia and the laws of your geographic location. Sellers must comply with all legal requirements for advertising, both under the laws of Australia and the country in which you live or predominantly reside.
    17. Legal compliance is strictly your responsibility as the seller of the product.

  5. Buyers
    1. Don’t solicit review copies.

  6. Conflict Resolution
    1. If an accused or suspect fraudulent review is posted an example proof of purchase may be required by the sellers and the buyer. Upon match a course of action will be decided. Any attempt gaming this by either party will result in a permanent ban.
    2. If a guarantee is offered and not honoured within a reasonable time this will result in a permanent ban.
    3. When offering a service, quotes on price and ETA must be provided in the original thread or through private message. If no correspondence occurs, in absence of sufficient evidence of the works completion. Warrior Forum will side with the buyer.


Violation of any of these rules by a user can result in a warning up to permanent account suspension. The course of action will depend upon the severity of the situation, the nature of the violation and past behaviour.

Change Log:
[2016-09-2 9:35]
[2016-06-15 12:30]
  • Added old Rule #1 which is now Rule 1.7


[2016-06-10 16:20]
  • Clarification surrounding self promotion.
  • Clarification around external links.
  • Clarification surrounding sig special characters.

[2016-06-10 16:00]
  • Clarification surrounding what is allowed in Guarantees

[2016-06-09 14:25]
  • Added prohibited content as detailed in 4.10 to signature links.
  • Clarified exemption of Warrior Market Place listing links in signatures.
  • Clarified exemption of the Warrior Classified Market place in PLR ban.
  • Clarified testimonial to pertain only to the product being sold.
#warrior forum news #forum #rules #warrior
  • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
    Thanks, Moss and forum team. Looks like there is a lot to chew on there.

    A couple questions/comments (if this isn't the appropriate place for questions, maybe you should start a thread where they can be asked because I'm sure there will be a lot of feedback):

    1. It would be great if the no-no items in 4.10 were also included in the sig rules.
    2. Does 3.6 apply to Fiverr, our own WSO, a lead page on a 3rd party provider such as leadpages.net?
    3. Is the blatant violation of rule 2.3 reportable when we see them or not?
    4. Rule 4.4 will eliminate a lot of offers in the Classified section. Previously the WSO section had to be unique offers but things like PLR could be posted in the Classified area. Is that the intention?
    5. Testimonials and reviews should apply to the current offer not previous products in my opinion. Without this being in place, it would seem that a brand new offer that may be awful has a lot of positive feedback.

    Mark

    Edit: Is there or is there not a rule against self-promotion such as "see my sig", "PM me for more details", etc?
    • Profile picture of the author moss
      Hey Mark,

      Really appreciate your prompt input.

      I'm happy to continue this conversation here, the caveat is that we'll be strict with removing off topic contribution. Considered feedback is welcomed though.

      With respect to your feedback:
      1. Agree completely.
      2. 3.6 does apply to Fiverr. WSO's under your username are an exception. Anything hosted on a domain you own is also allowed.
      3. Yes, feel free to report it. It'll be at the discretion of the team as to whether or not it'll be actioned. I imagine we'll end up seeing some edge cases where there's disagreement on what is value and what isn't, however we should be able to start removing some useless one liner responses.
      4. PLR will continue to be allowed in the Classified section for now.
      5. Agreed, it can be misleading. Testimonials should pertain to the relevant product.

      I've updated the rules to reflect these changes.

      Thanks again for the constructive input.

      Moss
    • Profile picture of the author ForumGuru
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      @moss

      I'm bumping this as I noticed that you responded to Mark's original suggestions, but you may have missed his edit.

      This one most definitely needs to be in there, and it's been strictly enforced in the past.

      Originally Posted by Mark Singletary View Post

      Edit: Is there or is there not a rule against self-promotion such as "see my sig", "PM me for more details", etc?
      The restriction is a no-brainer... If you can't (or don't know how to) contact a member discreetly, or personally, then you probably don't need to be posting anyway.

      Cheers

      -don
  • Profile picture of the author vedremo
    Originally Posted by moss View Post

    Guarantee may or may not be offered. If offered they must be non conditional.
    Does this apply to service offers?

    Should this not be at discretion of sellers and the market decides?
    • Profile picture of the author moss
      Originally Posted by vedremo View Post

      Does this apply to service offers?

      Should this not be at discretion of sellers and the market decides?
      Yes, it applies to all offers.

      It is the sellers discretion whether or not to offer a guarantee.

      The issue with allowing conditional guarantees is the slippery slope that it creates with increasingly convoluted conditions.
  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    A most excellent clarification of the rules! Especially pleased to see the "not allowed" items and the tightening of sig rules and enforcement. The WF has been advertising Fiverr far too much.

    I think the important points of refunds were covered. A refund is not a guaranteed option - but if a seller uses "refund" as a sales tool he has to honor it. At the same time, buyers need to realize "a refund" isn't guaranteed for everything they buy on the WF.

    The way the rules are laid out here - there is no excuse to say "I didn't know".

    Mark covered my thoughts in his initial post and it's great to see such a quick response to his concerns.

    kay
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  • Profile picture of the author ForumGuru
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    Great thread and a great rules update, moss! This has been much needed, and thanks for taking our suggestions.

    One point:

    Originally Posted by moss View Post

    Posting must add value to the relevant discussion. To thank someone for a contribution use the ‘thanks’ button or upvote the discussion.
    I agree with this 100% --> but what happened to my upvote option? It's been gone for months. Alaister insured that I had the upvote button early on, but sometime over the past few months it has disappeared.

    Is it a bug? It's hard to upvote threads when we either don't have the option, or a bug has removed the option. So who is supposed to have access to the upvote function? Everyone, I expect...

    I'll post in suggestions...a suggestion that you guy's fix the Upvote buttons --> and I will file a ticket if I don't see it soon.

    Thanks again for the great rules update, it's been sorely needed for a long while.

    Best of luck!

    -don
  • Profile picture of the author lgibbon
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    [QUOTE=moss;10715911]
    1. Signatures
      1. Excessive use of capitalization, special characters will result in deletion/editing by an admin.
      2. Sig files may only be written in the normal standard font size.
    Hi Moss,
    Much needed set of rules there.
    You might want to clarify the sig file rule to something like:
    "Sig files may only be written using letters of the alphabet"
    Already there is a little confusion for some over the use of special characters.
    • Profile picture of the author ForumGuru
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      Originally Posted by lgibbon View Post

      You might want to clarify the sig file rule to something like:
      "Sig files may only be written using letters of the alphabet"
      @moss

      Respectfully, I am not in favor of the suggestion that was just made.

      Example: I have 3 little asterisks on either side of my link to your rules, and I have two six character arrows pointing to my WSO.

      IMO, the rule should stay with the "excessive" wording or maybe a 20 or 26 (or whatever number) special character limit, if the rule is to be revised. It's pretty obvious that what I am using is not excessive.

      Cheers

      -don
  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    IMO, the rule should stay with...
    ....the way I choose to interpret it


    No, it shouldn't....
    Yes, it should...

    Come on, guys - let the mods sort it out. THEY will decide what can and can't be used and THEY can decide who is violating rules and who isn't.
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  • Profile picture of the author ForumGuru
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    Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

    ....the way I choose to interpret it
    No, it shouldn't....Yes, it should...
    Come on, guys - let the mods sort it out. THEY will decide what can and can't be used and THEY can decide who is violating rules and who isn't.
    Seriously?

    Moss is taking revision suggestions...I know you have noticed a few of those above, eh?

    Maybe you should have let the mods decide if we were violating the rules when we made our revision suggestions... Heck, your latest reply may have even violated the no bullying rule [1.3].

    LG is clearly making a revision suggestion, and it's a suggestion that does make some sense.

    Without a clearly defined sig special character limit ---> it may make more work for the mod team fielding the illegal sig reports. It also makes more work for member mods as we don't really know what "characters" to report or not report. Sure, something outrageous is easy to spot. Others, not so much. One thing that I do know, it would provide more consistency in the way the sig reports are acted upon.

    My point of posting is to make the suggestion that the rule should be revised to include a specific special character limit, if the rule is going to be revised at all. Obviously, myself and many others do not want to see the use of ALL special characters eliminated - which is exactly what LG has proposed.

    My suggestion is another example of a perfectly legitimate revision suggestion.

    Both of our replies are appropriate for this thread...moss can decide to leave the rule as is, or he can accept either of our revisions.

    His suggestion makes sense, and so does mine. As you have seen with your own eyes, I have already been jumped for *supposedly* having too many special characters in my sig. LMAO

    Both of us basically want much of the same thing --> a bit more clarity on what will be allowed and what will not.

    Cheers

    -don
  • Profile picture of the author JC Web
    Regarding this rule:

    Signatures
    "6. Your signature must link to your own domain or a listing owned by you on any of the Warrior Market Places. If you have paid for an image signature you are exempt from this rule."

    I would really encourage you to rethink allowing affiliate links in signatures with paid images. There is already a ton of low quality sig-spamming posts by people with image sigs and allowing aff links in signatures of people who paid for image sigs is only going to make it much worse.
    • Profile picture of the author dansilvestre
      Originally Posted by JC Web View Post

      I would really encourage you to rethink allowing affiliate links in signatures with paid images. There is already a ton of low quality sig-spamming posts by people with image sigs and allowing aff links in signatures of people who paid for image sigs is only going to make it much worse.
      If you are paying to have an image signature then it's only fair that you decide where it redirects to.

      This rule will stay as it is now.
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    • Profile picture of the author lgibbon
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      Originally Posted by JC Web View Post


      I would really encourage you to rethink allowing affiliate links in signatures with paid images. There is already a ton of low quality sig-spamming posts by people with image sigs and allowing aff links in signatures of people who paid for image sigs is only going to make it much worse.
      Yes it's total madness.
      There has been a constant battle for years getting rid of the affiliate
      link spammers sent here in their droves.
      Once they hear about this turn around one can't begin to imagine the effect it will have.

      $5 a month for unlimited spamming must be a pretty good deal for them.
  • Profile picture of the author dansilvestre
    Originally Posted by lgibbon View Post

    You might want to clarify the sig file rule to something like:
    "Sig files may only be written using letters of the alphabet"
    Already there is a little confusion for some over the use of special characters.
    Originally Posted by ForumGuru View Post

    IMO, the rule should stay with the "excessive" wording or maybe a 20 or 26 (or whatever number) special character limit, if the rule is to be revised. It's pretty obvious that what I am using is not excessive.
    Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

    Come on, guys - let the mods sort it out. THEY will decide what can and can't be used and THEY can decide who is violating rules and who isn't.
    This will be decided by mods on a sig by sig basis.

    The easier way to not get your sig edited is to not have any special characters or capitalization at all.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brent Stangel
    You are only permitted one account per person.
    Some "members" have numerous shill (an accomplice of a hawker, gambler, or swindler who acts as an enthusiastic customer to entice or encourage others.) profiles. How are you going to decide which one stays?

    Do not harass, personally attack, blackmail, spam or bully buyers and/or other Warrior Forum members.
    So, no calling out liars, scammers and other assorted low-lifes who will rob your less experienced members blind if given half a chance, fill the forum with mis-information, and generally detract from it's usefulness?

    Good luck with that.

    Shameless self promotion such as 'see my sig' or 'pm me for more details' is prohibited
    I gave up reporting these a while ago because it did no good. Rules are meaningless without competent moderators to enforce them.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    Very serious question, Moss...

    Is Rule #1 gone? If so, that means it's open season to name names and rant rants?

    Always thought that was one of the most useful rules here - because you only get one side of the story...

    kay
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    My question may have gotten lost in discussions so I'm repeating it here....

    Very serious question, Moss...

    Is Rule #1 gone? If so, that means it's open season to name names and rant rants?
    Rule #1 has stopped people from joining here only to rant about money they lost or a service that was (in their view) inferior...or another member they feel took advantage of them.
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
    Originally Posted by ForumGuru View Post

    IMO, the rule should stay with the "excessive" wording or maybe a 20 or 26 (or whatever number) special character limit, if the rule is to be revised. It's pretty obvious that what I am using is not excessive.

    Cheers

    -don
    Originally Posted by ForumGuru View Post

    No, it's not as easy as as saying we are eliminating all use of special characters, I fully realize that. And don't forget, you have still have an extra line in your sig --> we certainly don't want someone reporting you!

    Cheers

    -don
    [quote]***Read The New Forum Rules Prior To Posting***
    -----> This Guru Delivers the Goods <-----
    [/quote]

    Or violating the rule about using bold, to say nothing of one link implying endorsement by the forum by linking to the new rules and then one's WSO...

    @moss

    I understand the need to comply with Australian laws regarding advertising, but if you are going to require that, perhaps you could also provide links to resources similar to the FTC's in the USA that try to simplify hundreds of pages of legalese into practical guidelines.

    Re: affiliate links

    I interpreted the exemption for paid images in sigs as an exemption from the rule prohibiting images, not affiliate links. Allowing affiliate links and their cousins, links to company provided MLM pages, would land this place back in the state that nearly did it in a few years ago.

    Please say it isn't so.

    Other input:

    > I agree with Kate, the old RULE 1 blanket about venting private disputes or feuds on the public forums kept a lot of the confrontational crap off the boards.

    > I'd like to see a rule against treating the forum as the universal support site for every software, service, theme, plugin, script, etc. used out there by people too lazy to use that thing's support functions. For example, Wordpress has an extensive forum system of their own, as do Aweber, Leadpages, etc.
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    • Profile picture of the author ForumGuru
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      Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

      Or violating the rule about using bold, to say nothing of one link implying endorsement by the forum by linking to the new rules and then one's WSO...
      LMAO --> You may want to read the rules again! Specifically rule 3.4.



      If Moss or Dan thought something was wrong with my sig I figure they would have said something to me when I used my signature as an example in an earlier reply.

      Pointing people to the rules is a good thing as it's pretty obvious that the vast majority of the people on here have not read them, especially the new members, and especially the new rules.

      As you can see from the whopping view count on this thread, this baby is not all that hot. Especially considering the fact that:

      #1) Warrior Forum had some sort of announce bar at the top of some of the forum pages for a while.

      #2) A notification thread with this link is posted in the main discussion forum

      #3) A notification thread with this link is posted in the off topic discussion forum

      #4) I have made probably a dozen posts or more since putting the link in my sig.

      #5) The link now appears on all of my previous posts.

      Wow....without these links to the new rules what view count do we have down here? Either way, the view count is a lot lower than what I'm sure many would like to see.

      What good does it do to take the time and effort to craft a new set of rules if nobody sees them? Yeah, that's what I thought.

      It's a great thing to inform the forum members of the rules. If everyone reads the rules a couple of times before they start firing away this place will be a whole lot better off.

      Cheers

      -don
  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    Here is a question.

    I get a good bit of spam email from this forum lately. Why didn't they blast one out to announce the new rules? Wouldn't that be a smart way to let members know about them?
    • Profile picture of the author ForumGuru
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      Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

      Here is a question.

      I get a good bit of spam email from this forum lately. Why didn't they blast one out to announce the new rules? Wouldn't that be a smart way to let members know about them?
      They should consider a New Members Start Here top section just like you have at the very top of your competing internet marketing forum.



      I gotta say this --> you sure are using some pretty colors for mods, admins, and inner circle members!









      I suppose some folks could consider this to be a pretty impressive 8-11AM (CST) attendance this morning for a WF clone built in 2014. Hey, if you lost anything during that major cleanup you had in your OT section the other day, I'm pretty sure I can help you find what went missing.

      Of course an email blast should be sent out when the rules are completed, that's a no brainer. On top of that, they really should consider moving the start here stuff to a more prominent location.

      Another thing they can consider doing --> they can force members to open the rules prior to making their initial post to the forum, and make them tick a box that says they will comply before being directed to the post editor. Heck, if they wanted to do it, they could force every member to the rules prior to submitting their next thread or reply.

      A couple more suggestions...

      If it's not happening now, every new member that registers should receive a welcome email with the rules and/or a link to the rules.

      Upon registration you can redirect the new members to the rules...a good option if you are not going to force members to a rules page prior to making their initial contribution to the forum.

      Cheers

      -don
    • Profile picture of the author Importexport
      Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

      Here is a question.

      I get a good bit of spam email from this forum lately. Why didn't they blast one out to announce the new rules? Wouldn't that be a smart way to let members know about them?
      What a great idea!

      Not having seen the small notice about new rules, because it doesn't appear on the sub-forum I always open up on, I was not amused to receive this PM:

      "This is to inform you that we have removed your signature as it violates our 2 line guideline. Please refer to the link below.

      Warrior Forum Rules

      Let this serve as a warning. Future violations may cause your account to get sanctions."

      Not a very pleasant introduction to new rules!

      Having said that, I believe that rules are rules and I try to comply, but that's impossible to do when you aren't informed of rule changes. Simple courtesy would go a long way, and an email blast is well within WF's capability, as @MikeFriedman pointed out.

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    Edit: Nevermind. I don't care.
    • Profile picture of the author ForumGuru
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      Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

      That forum was 100% private for most of its existence.

      Either way, someone is not going to be happy you mentioned that place here.
      I did not name the forum and several of your members have been PMing me and many other Warriors to join for months. In-fact your members that PMed me to join have some of the highest post (and thanks) counts on Warrior Forum.

      Cheers

      -don
  • Profile picture of the author Robscom
    Why is there a b*tchfest about some apparent Forum Who Must Not Be Named in a discussion about the Warrior Forum Rules?
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  • Profile picture of the author ForumGuru
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    Another great idea would be to PM every member the rules with an active compliance button once revisions are closed, and the new rules are completed.

    Cheers

    -don
  • Profile picture of the author moss
    There's been some great discussions, I'll try and provide a bit more clarification where possible.


    Multiple Accounts
    Originally Posted by Brent Stangel View Post

    Some "members" have numerous shill (an accomplice of a hawker, gambler, or swindler who acts as an enthusiastic customer to entice or encourage others.) profiles. How are you going to decide which one stays?
    [Edited reply to this 2016-06-15 21:46]

    Any user conducting in fraudulent activities including but not limited to using additional accounts to entice users to purchase a product will have all associated accounts banned.

    What we're trying to do is to create a set of rules that everyone understands that gives us a framework to enforce what is mostly common sense behaviour in a repeatable way.


    Rule #1
    Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

    Is Rule #1 gone? If so, that means it's open season to name names and rant rants?
    Thanks for bringing this to my attention Kay, it's Rule 1.7 now.


    Signature Special Characters
    Re:The discussion around an analytical limit on special characters. We don't want to be super picky around this. Would we ban exclamation marks? What about full stops? I encourage you to think about the purpose of these rules. If you want to push the boundaries, you'll do it anyway. Just be prepared to get a message from a moderator asking you to change it. Maybe sometimes you'll even get more characters if you keep trying. Annoy them enough and they'll probably just take away your signature privileges. If you want to play that game go for it, is it really worth your time though?


    Market Place Rules
    Originally Posted by ForumGuru View Post

    #1) What about free WSOs? Are they still going to be sent to classifieds?

    #2) Are $1 WSOs the lowest priced offer that will remain in the main WSO section?

    #3) The overall applicability of the WSO section rules --> are they still in force? If so, will they be added to this rules collation?
    -don
    1. WSO section still prohibits free offers.
    2. Interesting point, I haven't got a firm answer on this yet.
    3. This still aims to be the single source of truth for rules. Yes, marketplace rules should be here. If you've got thoughts on marketplace specific rules that aren't here that should be please let me know. I'll go through today and migrate any that I find.


    Enforcement of Rules
    With regards to enforcing the signature rules.
    • Fiverr rule is now being enforced.
    • I believe when greater than 2 line signatures are being noticed people are being given a period of time to change. After that they're being manually altered.


    Image Signature Affiliate Links
    Originally Posted by SteveJohnson View Post

    By that logic, Google Adwords, Bing, and Facebook shouldn't care about the landing page I send paid ads to...but they do.
    I understand this is a sensitive issues. By your logic if we were Google, bing or Facebook we wouldn't send traffic there, but we're Warrior Forum, which is completely different entity.

    Let's see how this plays out. If a surge of people suddenly start buying sigs and promoting affiliates we'll revisit it. If it's a minority of people it'll probably stay the same.


    Distribution of the New Rules
    Now with regard to why this hasn't been pushed harder. This is exactly the discussion I wanted to have first. The people that care a lot about these rules (you guys) are here and discussing it.

    I think we're making beneficial changes and clarifying things where required. This means that when we do email out it'll be a more complete and polished set of rules.

    Finally, we'll tackle the distribution of the rules once we are all on a relatively common ground.
    • Profile picture of the author Importexport
      Originally Posted by moss View Post


      Enforcement of Rules
      With regards to enforcing the signature rules.
      • I believe when greater than 2 line signatures are being noticed people are being given a period of time to change. After that they're being manually altered.
      I was given no time to make the change. I was just informed that my signature had been deleted, and as I posted above, the little rule change notice doesn't even appear on the sub-forum at which I always open WF.

      If the rules are not yet competed, and notices don't appear on every sub-forum, why are they being so ruthlessly enforced?

      I have changed my signature to comply with the 2 line rule, but it does not appear on my posts.

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      Originally Posted by moss View Post

      Multiple Accounts
      This would be a case by case scenario.
      • If someone comes on and creates 30 new accounts we'll probably permanently ban them all.
      • If an older member creates a single additional account and starts misusing it we'll probably ban the new account and give a warning to the user. If it happens again we'd probably ban both.
      • If someone creates two accounts that both make fantastic contribution we'd probably overlook it. Maybe that person just has multiple personalities.
      Market Place Rules
      1. This still aims to be the single source of truth for rules. Yes, marketplace rules should be here. If you've got thoughts on marketplace specific rules that aren't here that should be please let me know. I'll go through today and migrate any that I find.
      Hi Moss,

      If you are allowing multiple accounts then you should place something in the Marketplace rules that specifically says --> Anyone that is caught using a second account to bump any listing with a BS positive review or any other BS posts will be banned. Both accounts (or more) will be banned, the thread(s) will be closed, and the buy buttons and contact information will be removed from the listing.

      You should to cover this as well...

      Members using a second account to post negative reviews on the competition's threads. In this case only the member using the second account should be banned, if he or she has an active listing on either account, close it.

      I believe this may open a big can of worms that you don't need to open. You just can't allow one person to run around the marketplace section with multiple accounts "reviewing" his friends, his enemies, and his own listings.

      Secondarily, if you have an account banned for a major marketplace violation you should never be allowed to place a listing here again.

      Just a few examples of the many:

      I have personally caught the multi-banned member Precious twice on here running fake reviews on his off-site listings in the reviews section. I also caught a shill or two of his as well, and I believe I may have busted his second or third marketplace account, maybe both. I've caught so many image pirates, software pirates and fraudulent members on here I have lost count.

      I have busted the same member Eduardo something or other selling on here two more times after I had him banned the first time. A different member name and he was good to go. The guy was selling blackhat style tools. A few months later I exposed him selling a Warrior Forum email scraper off-site.

      Paul Myers took it from me and tried to get something done with his email service and possibly the payment processor.

      Point being, you need to be very stern with the multiple account BS that can go on in the marketplace and the review section.

      If you are not acutely aware, soon you will have a bunch more WSO sellers that have a long list of bogus glowing reviews on their Marketplace threads. In-fact it would not surprise me to see member account craft masters go to work on their threads right away. Like the moment they know they can "legally" build a new persona with another account.

      You should tread very carefully with such liberal multiple account rules, this is one decision that may be a step too far. Please consider adding something to strengthen the Marketplace from shills, and the multiple account thread bumping fraudulent review posts, if indeed you are going to allow multiple accounts.

      One last thing, if multiple accounts are allowed, I suspect the Warrior Forum account selling marketplaces will have a few new special offers on aged Warrior Forum accounts sooner rather than later.

      Once you get the marketplace rules migrated I'll have another look. Whenever you can get it, I will be looking forward to the clarification on the $1 marketplace minimum thing. Thanks again for taking our input.

      Note: You may want to fix your change log date on what was formerly rule #1.



      Cheers

      -don
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  • Profile picture of the author ForumGuru
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    @Moss

    You may want to do something with the Warrior Forum Terms of Use guidelines They have some great information on what type of content that members can and can not provide, and some other good legal stuff. Specifically the Regarding the Content You Provide and Prohibited Activities sections.

    WarriorForum - Terms of Use

    Maybe excerpt some things, and possibly also provide a link to the ToC page as well. I have seen at least one old-timer complaining that plagiarism is not listed specifically in Section 2 of the new rules.

    You should place something in there that says you can't post stolen content and probably PLR/RR articles too, and whatever else you think best.

    There are many other good guidelines scattered throughout that page that may prompt a few more revisions/additions. They are a bit messy and may need some cleanup, but if you have not yet done so, they are well worth the look.

    Cheers

    -don

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