Warrior Forum Rules

by moss 66 replies
Hey Warriors,

We've decided to collate all the forum rules in one place to reduce confusion and make it easier for everyone to know what is and is not allowed on the forum.

We've also made small changes to the rules where we've seen a need, these changes will be gradually enforced over the coming weeks.

These will be updated when necessary.
  1. General
    1. You are only permitted one account per person.
    2. Username changes are not permitted.
    3. Do not harass, personally attack, blackmail, spam or bully buyers and/or other Warrior Forum members.
    4. The selling of accounts is prohibited
    5. Shameless self promotion such as 'see my sig' or 'pm me for more details' is prohibited.
    6. In line links are allowed and even encouraged as long as they are not selling anything and expand specifically on the concept being discussed. Marketplace listings are of course exempt from this rule.
    7. If you have a problem with anyone, take it up with them privately. No naming or shaming here since there are two sides to every story.

  2. Contributing to the Forum
    1. Excessive use of capitalization, special characters, colours or font/image size will result in deletion/editing by an admin of the title and/or body of the post.
    2. We retain the right to move threads to more suitable sub forums where applicable.
    3. Posting must add value to the relevant discussion. To thank someone for a contribution use the ‘thanks’ button or upvote the discussion.
    4. Excessive consecutive posts in a single thread by the same author may be merged into one post.

  3. Signatures
    1. Excessive use of capitalization and/or special characters will result in deletion/editing by an admin. If you want to be safe don't use any, however, If it's done tastefully we won't mind. Tastefulness is subjective and up to our discretion.
    2. Sig files may only be written in the normal standard font size.
    3. Sig file text may only be black.
    4. You may bold or italicize it.
    5. Maximum length of sig file is 2 lines which includes any blank lines used for spaces. This excludes an image.
    6. Your signature must link to your own domain or a listing owned by you on any of the Warrior Market Places. If you have paid for an image signature you are exempt from this rule.
    7. Your signature cannot link to any of the blacklisted content types as detailed in Rule 4.10 below.

  4. Sellers (Applies to entire sales funnel)
    1. No income guarantees.
    2. Money back guarantees may or may not be offered. If offered guarantees must adhere to the following.
      1. Guarantees can be limited to a window of time after the point of sale.
      2. Guarantees can be conditional on fulfilment of deliverables by the seller.
      3. Guarantees cannot be conditional on the buyer actioning, undertaking or completing anything.
    3. Sellers must not post blind ad/copy. This is an ad/copy where you advise what the product is not rather than what it is. Your product should be clearly understood by both moderators and members.
    4. Resale of MRR/PLR/RR is prohibited apart from in the Classified Marketplace.
    5. Sellers are not permitted to use the Warrior Forum logo, branding or name in their sales copy. The name of your product should not imply that the product is affiliated with the Warrior Forum in any way.
    6. You may use whatever payment provider you wish in order to sell your product.
    7. Sellers are not to make claims around income that has been made unless this income can be verified through Warrior Payments. Sellers are not permitted to make claims about or imply that income will result from purchasing a WSO.
    8. All listings must have a clear deliverable. This can be but is not limited to software, products or services. Services should also have a clear eta on the deliverables.
    9. All rules in section 2 apply in all marketplaces.
    10. All listing are subject to moderator approval before going live. We reserve the right to not approve/delete any threads which may be deemed fraudulent or spam related.
      These include but are not limited to
      • Mass Account Creators
      • E-Mail Harvesters
      • Lead Scrapers
      • Cookie Stuffing Scripts
      • Mass Automation Tools
      • SEO Spam Tools
      • Blog Commenting Tools
      • Wiki Poster Tools
      • Spamming Tools
      • Automation Bots
      • Forum Posting Tools
      • Classified Ad Posters
      • Email Lists
    11. No signatures on marketplaces are allowed.
    12. No fraudulent behaviour such as but not limited to paid testimonials.
    13. No off-site reviews or testimonials. Including but not limited to screen grabs from external conversations.
    14. All testimonials must pertain specifically to the product being sold.
    15. Sellers are not to force email opt ins from customers to gain access to their product. While you are allowed to request the customer to subscribe to your mailing list, this should not be the only way the customer may gain access to your product or service.
    16. All listings must comply with forum rules, the laws of Australia and the laws of your geographic location. Sellers must comply with all legal requirements for advertising, both under the laws of Australia and the country in which you live or predominantly reside.
    17. Legal compliance is strictly your responsibility as the seller of the product.

  5. Buyers
    1. Don’t solicit review copies.

  6. Conflict Resolution
    1. If an accused or suspect fraudulent review is posted an example proof of purchase may be required by the sellers and the buyer. Upon match a course of action will be decided. Any attempt gaming this by either party will result in a permanent ban.
    2. If a guarantee is offered and not honoured within a reasonable time this will result in a permanent ban.
    3. When offering a service, quotes on price and ETA must be provided in the original thread or through private message. If no correspondence occurs, in absence of sufficient evidence of the works completion. Warrior Forum will side with the buyer.


Violation of any of these rules by a user can result in a warning up to permanent account suspension. The course of action will depend upon the severity of the situation, the nature of the violation and past behaviour.

Change Log:
[2016-09-2 9:35]
[2016-06-15 12:30]
  • Added old Rule #1 which is now Rule 1.7


[2016-06-10 16:20]
  • Clarification surrounding self promotion.
  • Clarification around external links.
  • Clarification surrounding sig special characters.

[2016-06-10 16:00]
  • Clarification surrounding what is allowed in Guarantees

[2016-06-09 14:25]
  • Added prohibited content as detailed in 4.10 to signature links.
  • Clarified exemption of Warrior Market Place listing links in signatures.
  • Clarified exemption of the Warrior Classified Market place in PLR ban.
  • Clarified testimonial to pertain only to the product being sold.
#warrior forum news #forum #rules #warrior
  • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
    Thanks, Moss and forum team. Looks like there is a lot to chew on there.

    A couple questions/comments (if this isn't the appropriate place for questions, maybe you should start a thread where they can be asked because I'm sure there will be a lot of feedback):

    1. It would be great if the no-no items in 4.10 were also included in the sig rules.
    2. Does 3.6 apply to Fiverr, our own WSO, a lead page on a 3rd party provider such as leadpages.net?
    3. Is the blatant violation of rule 2.3 reportable when we see them or not?
    4. Rule 4.4 will eliminate a lot of offers in the Classified section. Previously the WSO section had to be unique offers but things like PLR could be posted in the Classified area. Is that the intention?
    5. Testimonials and reviews should apply to the current offer not previous products in my opinion. Without this being in place, it would seem that a brand new offer that may be awful has a lot of positive feedback.

    Mark

    Edit: Is there or is there not a rule against self-promotion such as "see my sig", "PM me for more details", etc?
    • Profile picture of the author moss
      Hey Mark,

      Really appreciate your prompt input.

      I'm happy to continue this conversation here, the caveat is that we'll be strict with removing off topic contribution. Considered feedback is welcomed though.

      With respect to your feedback:
      1. Agree completely.
      2. 3.6 does apply to Fiverr. WSO's under your username are an exception. Anything hosted on a domain you own is also allowed.
      3. Yes, feel free to report it. It'll be at the discretion of the team as to whether or not it'll be actioned. I imagine we'll end up seeing some edge cases where there's disagreement on what is value and what isn't, however we should be able to start removing some useless one liner responses.
      4. PLR will continue to be allowed in the Classified section for now.
      5. Agreed, it can be misleading. Testimonials should pertain to the relevant product.

      I've updated the rules to reflect these changes.

      Thanks again for the constructive input.

      Moss
    • Profile picture of the author ForumGuru
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      @moss

      I'm bumping this as I noticed that you responded to Mark's original suggestions, but you may have missed his edit.

      This one most definitely needs to be in there, and it's been strictly enforced in the past.

      Originally Posted by Mark Singletary View Post

      Edit: Is there or is there not a rule against self-promotion such as "see my sig", "PM me for more details", etc?
      The restriction is a no-brainer... If you can't (or don't know how to) contact a member discreetly, or personally, then you probably don't need to be posting anyway.

      Cheers

      -don
  • Profile picture of the author vedremo
    Originally Posted by moss View Post

    Guarantee may or may not be offered. If offered they must be non conditional.
    Does this apply to service offers?

    Should this not be at discretion of sellers and the market decides?
    • Profile picture of the author moss
      Originally Posted by vedremo View Post

      Does this apply to service offers?

      Should this not be at discretion of sellers and the market decides?
      Yes, it applies to all offers.

      It is the sellers discretion whether or not to offer a guarantee.

      The issue with allowing conditional guarantees is the slippery slope that it creates with increasingly convoluted conditions.
  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    A most excellent clarification of the rules! Especially pleased to see the "not allowed" items and the tightening of sig rules and enforcement. The WF has been advertising Fiverr far too much.

    I think the important points of refunds were covered. A refund is not a guaranteed option - but if a seller uses "refund" as a sales tool he has to honor it. At the same time, buyers need to realize "a refund" isn't guaranteed for everything they buy on the WF.

    The way the rules are laid out here - there is no excuse to say "I didn't know".

    Mark covered my thoughts in his initial post and it's great to see such a quick response to his concerns.

    kay
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  • Profile picture of the author ForumGuru
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    Great thread and a great rules update, moss! This has been much needed, and thanks for taking our suggestions.

    One point:

    Originally Posted by moss View Post

    Posting must add value to the relevant discussion. To thank someone for a contribution use the ‘thanks’ button or upvote the discussion.
    I agree with this 100% --> but what happened to my upvote option? It's been gone for months. Alaister insured that I had the upvote button early on, but sometime over the past few months it has disappeared.

    Is it a bug? It's hard to upvote threads when we either don't have the option, or a bug has removed the option. So who is supposed to have access to the upvote function? Everyone, I expect...

    I'll post in suggestions...a suggestion that you guy's fix the Upvote buttons --> and I will file a ticket if I don't see it soon.

    Thanks again for the great rules update, it's been sorely needed for a long while.

    Best of luck!

    -don
  • Profile picture of the author lgibbon
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    [QUOTE=moss;10715911]
    1. Signatures
      1. Excessive use of capitalization, special characters will result in deletion/editing by an admin.
      2. Sig files may only be written in the normal standard font size.
    Hi Moss,
    Much needed set of rules there.
    You might want to clarify the sig file rule to something like:
    "Sig files may only be written using letters of the alphabet"
    Already there is a little confusion for some over the use of special characters.
    • Profile picture of the author ForumGuru
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      Originally Posted by lgibbon View Post

      You might want to clarify the sig file rule to something like:
      "Sig files may only be written using letters of the alphabet"
      @moss

      Respectfully, I am not in favor of the suggestion that was just made.

      Example: I have 3 little asterisks on either side of my link to your rules, and I have two six character arrows pointing to my WSO.

      IMO, the rule should stay with the "excessive" wording or maybe a 20 or 26 (or whatever number) special character limit, if the rule is to be revised. It's pretty obvious that what I am using is not excessive.

      Cheers

      -don
  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    IMO, the rule should stay with...
    ....the way I choose to interpret it


    No, it shouldn't....
    Yes, it should...

    Come on, guys - let the mods sort it out. THEY will decide what can and can't be used and THEY can decide who is violating rules and who isn't.
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  • Profile picture of the author ForumGuru
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    Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

    ....the way I choose to interpret it
    No, it shouldn't....Yes, it should...
    Come on, guys - let the mods sort it out. THEY will decide what can and can't be used and THEY can decide who is violating rules and who isn't.
    Seriously?

    Moss is taking revision suggestions...I know you have noticed a few of those above, eh?

    Maybe you should have let the mods decide if we were violating the rules when we made our revision suggestions... Heck, your latest reply may have even violated the no bullying rule [1.3].

    LG is clearly making a revision suggestion, and it's a suggestion that does make some sense.

    Without a clearly defined sig special character limit ---> it may make more work for the mod team fielding the illegal sig reports. It also makes more work for member mods as we don't really know what "characters" to report or not report. Sure, something outrageous is easy to spot. Others, not so much. One thing that I do know, it would provide more consistency in the way the sig reports are acted upon.

    My point of posting is to make the suggestion that the rule should be revised to include a specific special character limit, if the rule is going to be revised at all. Obviously, myself and many others do not want to see the use of ALL special characters eliminated - which is exactly what LG has proposed.

    My suggestion is another example of a perfectly legitimate revision suggestion.

    Both of our replies are appropriate for this thread...moss can decide to leave the rule as is, or he can accept either of our revisions.

    His suggestion makes sense, and so does mine. As you have seen with your own eyes, I have already been jumped for *supposedly* having too many special characters in my sig. LMAO

    Both of us basically want much of the same thing --> a bit more clarity on what will be allowed and what will not.

    Cheers

    -don
  • Profile picture of the author JC Web
    Regarding this rule:

    Signatures
    "6. Your signature must link to your own domain or a listing owned by you on any of the Warrior Market Places. If you have paid for an image signature you are exempt from this rule."

    I would really encourage you to rethink allowing affiliate links in signatures with paid images. There is already a ton of low quality sig-spamming posts by people with image sigs and allowing aff links in signatures of people who paid for image sigs is only going to make it much worse.
    • Profile picture of the author dansilvestre
      Originally Posted by JC Web View Post

      I would really encourage you to rethink allowing affiliate links in signatures with paid images. There is already a ton of low quality sig-spamming posts by people with image sigs and allowing aff links in signatures of people who paid for image sigs is only going to make it much worse.
      If you are paying to have an image signature then it's only fair that you decide where it redirects to.

      This rule will stay as it is now.
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    • Profile picture of the author lgibbon
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      Originally Posted by JC Web View Post


      I would really encourage you to rethink allowing affiliate links in signatures with paid images. There is already a ton of low quality sig-spamming posts by people with image sigs and allowing aff links in signatures of people who paid for image sigs is only going to make it much worse.
      Yes it's total madness.
      There has been a constant battle for years getting rid of the affiliate
      link spammers sent here in their droves.
      Once they hear about this turn around one can't begin to imagine the effect it will have.

      $5 a month for unlimited spamming must be a pretty good deal for them.
  • Profile picture of the author dansilvestre
    Originally Posted by lgibbon View Post

    You might want to clarify the sig file rule to something like:
    "Sig files may only be written using letters of the alphabet"
    Already there is a little confusion for some over the use of special characters.
    Originally Posted by ForumGuru View Post

    IMO, the rule should stay with the "excessive" wording or maybe a 20 or 26 (or whatever number) special character limit, if the rule is to be revised. It's pretty obvious that what I am using is not excessive.
    Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

    Come on, guys - let the mods sort it out. THEY will decide what can and can't be used and THEY can decide who is violating rules and who isn't.
    This will be decided by mods on a sig by sig basis.

    The easier way to not get your sig edited is to not have any special characters or capitalization at all.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brent Stangel
    You are only permitted one account per person.
    Some "members" have numerous shill (an accomplice of a hawker, gambler, or swindler who acts as an enthusiastic customer to entice or encourage others.) profiles. How are you going to decide which one stays?

    Do not harass, personally attack, blackmail, spam or bully buyers and/or other Warrior Forum members.
    So, no calling out liars, scammers and other assorted low-lifes who will rob your less experienced members blind if given half a chance, fill the forum with mis-information, and generally detract from it's usefulness?

    Good luck with that.

    Shameless self promotion such as 'see my sig' or 'pm me for more details' is prohibited
    I gave up reporting these a while ago because it did no good. Rules are meaningless without competent moderators to enforce them.
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