Warrior Forum Going Back To Paid Status

[MarkAndrews IMCopywriting]

An excellent move in the right direction...

It winds me up no end these days, that so many new
people in business think that everything can be just
handed to them on a plate, for free.

Before the days of the internet, which I well remember,
being in business for yourself, as I have been since the
very first day I left school at 16 - if you wanted your
business to succeed -- you had to be truly imaginative
to get word out about your products and services.

It wasn't free back then, if you wanted to market yourself,
you had to holler from the rooftops and of course, you
had to pay for the priviledge.

The trouble with this younger generation for a good part is
that they think being in business for yourself, should be easy.

Well... Wake Up and Smell The Roses

Being self employed, running your own business was never
supposed to be easy. It takes dedication, long hours 7 days
a week and a commitment to deliver high quality customer
service for the long term to succeed in business. And that's
just the beginning.

Whatever you want in life, someone, somewhere is paying
for you to lead the life that you think should be just handed
to you on a plate.

Get real! $37 is an absolute pittance, especially now that
the internet has levelled the playing field globally, giving
pretty much anyone, anywhere, the opportunity to learn
and serve the needs of other people well.

If You Cannot Invest $37 in Your Own Future...There is
Something Seriously Wrong With You

This forum, from a consultation perspective, has nuggets
of gold all over the place, just waiting to be picked up for
free. If you are too lazy to take action to go pick up those
nuggets of gold that are lying around everywhere, and you
think that you deserve a free ride - I'm sorry to say it, but
you've got a big problem and that is, your attitude - yourself.

"How much effort can it possibly take to use your mouse,
to click a few keys on a keyboard and have the opportunity
right in front of your eyes, whilst you sit down on your fat
arse, to make some serious money online?"

Without a shadow of doubt, this forum is one of a kind
and it's a forum where the members are truly concerned for
each others welfare and will bend over backwards to help
you, if you just have the desire and the commitment to
learn how to implement a winning strategy... to help
yourself and in turn help others here also. That is the
true spirit of this forum.

One Gentleman Brought This About
His Name is Allen...

Without his vision, without his initial action plan, his ready
and willing spirit to give to others, this forum and your
income producing ability, simply would not be the same.

How anyone can possibly say that they are not getting
tremendous value for money here, truly beats me!

Get off your blinkin' asses and pay up!

You don't mind squandering a few dollars on a coke and a
pizza, or a night on the town drinking a few beers which
you'll piss up against the wall an hour later, your reward a
whopping great hangover in the morning.

You don't mind paying for your latest games online, just to
twiddle your thumbs as you knock out your imaginary
opponent.

You don't mind paying for those music tracks or whatever
else you are spending your money on these days - so why
not adopt the same attitude to invest in your future with
the incredible mind boggling goldmine of information - available
right here at your very own fingertips!

Think about it!

[Josh Anderson]

Funny thing is that I did not even notice this notice... and just today I paid for one of my associates to join the war room and I convinced a second to upgrade...

Both because I wanted both to see just one valuable thread in the war room.

Anyone who is blind enough to not realize the sheer value of becoming a paid member should hang up their hat because they will never have the sense to make it in online business.

[sashas]

I paid $350 for an exclusive membership to DNF.com

So $37 doesn't seem that big a deal..

[suimiche]

Sir! I'm new to forums so, I haven't clear idea about changes. But the thing what I want to know is "Do you allow free members to put a singnature?"

[VegasVince]

Beautiful!

And nothing cleans out a closet full of moochers, leeches, and looters....quicker then forcing these bottom feeders to cough up a few bucks.

Too many of them were using the Warrior Forum like a gypsy carnival.....and it about time they pulled up stakes and move their dog and pony show elsewhere.



xxx Vegas Vince
Legend.

[BIG Mike]

This is just too cool for words...way to go Allen!

[Matt Fulger]

Originally Posted by raiko

LOL. You must have Safe Search on.

ROFL - DOH! You're right. Well, I guess that just goes to show
that NOT everyone has their mind in the gutter. I never put it
together until you pointed it out for me. Now I get it.

Originally Posted by Josh Anderson

Funny thing is that I did not even notice this notice... and just today I paid for one of my associates to join the war room and I convinced a second to upgrade...

Both because I wanted both to see just one valuable thread in the war room.

Anyone who is blind enough to not realize the sheer value of becoming a paid member should hang up their hat because they will never have the sense to make it in online business.

Josh,

I don't think that people are BLIND to the VALUE of this forum.
It's just that some don't think they can afford it.
Hopefully, those people will read some of the comments here and
take the advice given and skip a night out, or go for a month w/o
cable or something to come up with the measly $37 bucks.
I know I'll be upgrading before the end of the week.

But not everyone can come up with the $37. Or at least they
don't think they can.

[The IM Prodigy]

Good work Allen! You have a great forum, here.

[Metronicity]

Well done! The spam and BlackH*t stuff was getting well out of order.

[Richelo Killian]

Allen, everyone else has said just about everything there is to say on this subject.

I will just say thanks, and, about time! ;-)

[ademartin]

A positive step forward Allen. Thanks.

[zerofill]

Cool...maybe this will keep Jeremy out....
...nevermind he already paid...blah

Man Riley already paid too? ughhh....

Oh well...be able to keep some of the undesirables out I guess...

[yoshiko]

I second the decision. Thank you for cleaning up this space. We all need clean "air" to grow!

[JayXtreme]

Allen....

Thank you

Jay

[Mubarak Waseem]

Guys - The monmey is not an issue! The war room is worth FIFTY times more than Alan is charging, and it should be a monthly subscription too!

[Steve Peters Benn]

Ahhh! This is fantastic news! The quality of WF versus the 'others' is what keeps me coming back.

[Katie Rich]

Originally Posted by MarkAndrews IMCopywriting

An excellent move in the right direction...

It winds me up no end these days, that so many new
people in business think that everything can be just
handed to them on a plate, for free.

Before the days of the internet, which I well remember,
being in business for yourself, as I have been since the
very first day I left school at 16 - if you wanted your
business to succeed -- you had to be truly imaginative
to get word out about your products and services.

It wasn't free back then, if you wanted to market yourself,
you had to holler from the rooftops and of course, you
had to pay for the priviledge.

The trouble with this younger generation for a good part is
that they think being in business for yourself, should be easy.

Well... Wake Up and Smell The Roses

Being self employed, running your own business was never
supposed to be easy. It takes dedication, long hours 7 days
a week and a commitment to deliver high quality customer
service for the long term to succeed in business. And that's
just the beginning.

Whatever you want in life, someone, somewhere is paying
for you to lead the life that you think should be just handed
to you on a plate.

Get real! $37 is an absolute pittance, especially now that
the internet has levelled the playing field globally, giving
pretty much anyone, anywhere, the opportunity to learn
and serve the needs of other people well.

If You Cannot Invest $37 in Your Own Future...There is
Something Seriously Wrong With You

This forum, from a consultation perspective, has nuggets
of gold all over the place, just waiting to be picked up for
free. If you are too lazy to take action to go pick up those
nuggets of gold that are lying around everywhere, and you
think that you deserve a free ride - I'm sorry to say it, but
you've got a big problem and that is, your attitude - yourself.

"How much effort can it possibly take to use your mouse,
to click a few keys on a keyboard and have the opportunity
right in front of your eyes, whilst you sit down on your fat
arse, to make some serious money online?"

Without a shadow of doubt, this forum is one of a kind
and it's a forum where the members are truly concerned for
each others welfare and will bend over backwards to help
you, if you just have the desire and the commitment to
learn how to implement a winning strategy... to help
yourself and in turn help others here also. That is the
true spirit of this forum.

One Gentleman Brought This About
His Name is Allen...

Without his vision, without his initial action plan, his ready
and willing spirit to give to others, this forum and your
income producing ability, simply would not be the same.

How anyone can possibly say that they are not getting
tremendous value for money here, truly beats me!

Get off your blinkin' asses and pay up!

You don't mind squandering a few dollars on a coke and a
pizza, or a night on the town drinking a few beers which
you'll piss up against the wall an hour later, your reward a
whopping great hangover in the morning.

You don't mind paying for your latest games online, just to
twiddle your thumbs as you knock out your imaginary
opponent.

You don't mind paying for those music tracks or whatever
else you are spending your money on these days - so why
not adopt the same attitude to invest in your future with
the incredible mind boggling goldmine of information - available
right here at your very own fingertips!

Think about it!

I did!!

Whilst I appreciate that you seem to think anyone here who has income problems is a pointless waste of time, step back and think a minute.

Sometimes circumstances can cause untold financial problems. This is not a whine.

fact 1. I was made redundant, like countless others recently. My real life income gone.

fact 2. Divorce removed another income source.

fact 3. You live to your means. I now have a £640 a month mortgage and an income of £100 a month unemployment benefit.

fact 4. I can't write to save my life, and need a CV which will cost £59.

I don't buy pizza and coke. I don't have nights on the town, pissing anything against a wall (sort of physically impossible really) and I don't buy online games. BUT, I do have to decide whether I eat this month or buy my CV layout so that I at least have a chance of obtaining an income whilst I work my way around the excellent advice I have received from a forum member.

Finding another $37 this month is nigh on impossible. So, not everyone is here to waste your time just because they 'will not take their business seriously' Some are taking the advice they have been given, implementing it and knowing it will take some weeks to see results, are trying to stay afloat!

Blanket insults are not helpful.

[Steadyon]

Dear Non War Room Members,

Are you serious about your internet business?

Are you more interested in learning how to make money or just learning for the sake of it?

I am not trying to sound condescending, but you need to listen carefully:

If you are serious about your attempts to make money online then you should join the War Room.

It only costs $37.

If that seems like too much for you then think again.

If you are just a kid and don't earn any money, get your mom or dad to buy it for you.

Better yet, wash some cars for the weekend and pay for it yourself. This will do you a world of good. You will be putting in place the right mindset about investing in your own future.

If you really don't want to pay $37 then please look at where you waste this amount or more each week in your life.

The War Room isn't perfect, nothing is, but there are many golden nuggets of knowledge in there.

Do yourself a favour and get serious or move onto fresh pastures. No one will hold it against you if you are being honest with yourself. Just make a decision and either way, take ACTION.

Steadyon

[lisag]

Originally Posted by admin

It won't really be a problem. The War Room is moderated so only the type of posts that are ok will make it in. Plus I think once a lot of the new members see how things go in there they will also have some great things to contribute.

True on the moderated posts, but how about the giveaways and the occasional access to WSO without having to pay? Those things will be somewhat devalued if everyone has access to them; especially the free WSO. No one is going to want to offer that because it kills the ability to sell it to non-WR members.

I offer for consideration a two-tier membership. One gets you enhanced WF access and then you still sell the WR access as a separate item as you do now. That keeps the WR somewhat exclusive and looks good to you as a revenue model as well.

Just a thought...

[CDarklock]

Originally Posted by Matt Fulger

Care to enlighten me?

In a certain industry, DP means "Double Penetration."

[MeTellYou]

The forum is WELL worth it. Thakns Allen.
Sebastian

[CDarklock]

Originally Posted by Katie Rich

Sometimes circumstances can cause untold finacial problems.

Check out this thread:

Renting Out Your Voice

Pay particular attention to Mark Riddle's post from yesterday.

All the market research I've seen on the subject says the most engaging and attractive type of voice to Americans is a female voice with a British accent.

Sound like anyone you know? Like, maybe, you?

Opportunity is everywhere.

[Paul Myers]

Yo, Dadmin!,

Love it.

This will definitely cut down somewhat on the BS one-liners. Me likey. Domo arigato, or whatever the hell Riley says when someone is nice to him. (Does that really happen?)

Like any change, this will fix some problems and create others. I think it will be, overall, very positive. If I might make a suggestion, and assuming it's technically not a nightmare, put in a delay between date of joining and date allowed to post a WSO. Minimum, 2 months. I have some other suggestions, but they'll have to wait until I'm not falling asleep...

Matt,

It also proves that not ALL lawyers are heartless.

As my friend Annie (a lawyer) says, "98% of lawyers give the other 2% a bad name."

Bob's one of the 2%. Except to folks that screw with him.

Don,

Oh well...be able to keep some of the undesirables out I guess...

Nope. Taylor and I are members, too. It's all over but the crying...


Paul

[sannyman]

Dear Allen, the only thing that scares me is that the War Room will be too crowded

For our fellow warriors that complain about the amount to be paid, I can only tell this: nobody forces you to pay, it is your decision if YOU NEED paid member's features or not. Do you smoke or drink? I bet you will find a way to get money for this... Are you WF forum addicted? Well, we will see...

[Katie Rich]

Originally Posted by CDarklock

All the market research I've seen on the subject says the most engaging and attractive type of voice to Americans is a female voice with a British accent.

Sound like anyone you know? Like, maybe, you?

Opportunity is everywhere.

OOOHHHH! engaging AND attractive, well, even if it's not true it sure boosted my self esteem Checking now, thanks.

[TristanPerry]

Sounds good With such a massive forums I guess there will always be a problem with people spam-linking their site. Will aim to upgrade a bit later on today.

[WritingMadwoman]

Wow, after that talking to, I'm ready to pay again Mark! (Were you ever a drill sergeant by any chance??) LOL

Seriously, I think this is a great move for the forum Allen.

Wendy

Originally Posted by MarkAndrews IMCopywriting

Get off your blinkin' asses and pay up!

You don't mind squandering a few dollars on a coke and a
pizza, or a night on the town drinking a few beers which
you'll piss up against the wall an hour later, your reward a
whopping great hangover in the morning.

You don't mind paying for your latest games online, just to
twiddle your thumbs as you knock out your imaginary
opponent.

You don't mind paying for those music tracks or whatever
else you are spending your money on these days - so why
not adopt the same attitude to invest in your future with
the incredible mind boggling goldmine of information - available
right here at your very own fingertips!

Think about it!

[Fernando Veloso]

Thanks Allen, great news!! I was getting tired of hitting report button last weeks.

[visit_faraz]

Wow, I am glad I had already joined the war room.

Faraz

[JohnHuizinga]

Originally Posted by Katie Rich

fact 4. I can't write to save my life, and need a CV which will cost £59.

If you wrote this post then you're not giving youself nearly enough credit on your writing abilities.
It doesn't take enormous talent to write up an informative article and attach a resource box that will get people to click through to your presell or the vendor's sales page - just the ability to write clearly. Writing with conviction helps as well and you can obviously do that.
It's possible you may just hate it, in which case it's not the thing for you, but don't let your fifth grade English teacher's opinion of your writing ability stop you from trying.

[milan]

This is great news. Way to go.

[EndGame]

This is awesome!

On a selfish and personal level, I am extremely happy I had the good sense to lock into the War Room when it was being offered at such a generous price in the early days.

I think this is such a great way to protect the quality of the forum whilst still giving free members some access.

[Adam Sussman]

Thank you Allen! It was needed.

Adam

[abelacts]

This is the way forward! I can't agree more that when you said those who pay for something will appreciate what you have paid. Excellent decision to weed out spammers and to protect those who are serious and genuine.

[Imran Naseem]

A Complete masterstroke of genius Allen. Great call there. I was beginning to think these "spammers" want to turn WF into another DP...and yet you have shown once again that you truly care about this forum as a whole.

Thankyou Allen

Best news in years !!!!!!

[Suzanne Morrison]

Thanks Allen. I think $37 is very small price for access to this great forum and all its benefits!

Cheers,
Suzanne

[Gene Pimentel]

Allen, thanks a million for making this move. It can only improve the quality of information while helping to eliminate nonsense. THANK YOU!

[TristanPerry]

Originally Posted by Imran Naseem

A Complete masterstroke of genius Allen. Great call there. I was beginning to think these "spammers" want to turn WF into another DP...and yet you have shown once again that you truly care about this forum as a whole.

Thankyou Allen

Best news in years !!!!!!

Definitely worth the $37 fee just to avoid this happening

[Fernando Veloso]

Originally Posted by VegasVince

Too many of them were using the Warrior Forum like a gypsy carnival.....and it about time they pulled up stakes and move their dog and pony show elsewhere.

You can read minds too? You just did.

[SRLee]

Hi there Sam, I know I earn it easier, but the things here in my country is almost the same as in the US. $37 can buy an average of 13 McD-RM10 meals. And the meals are exactly the same as they are being sold in the US.

To all others that say "$37 is a good investment". I do agree, but I'll have to fork out another RM130 from my parents. Which is like, hard you see. "-_-

-Shaun

[Chuck Evans]

Allen, like Steven I was "grandfathered" into the War Room. I'd like to anty up as well...please let us know how we can do so without screwing up the works!

Thanks,

chuck

[MikeHumphreys]

Originally Posted by Pete Egeler

All the best with your new forum.

I paid to join in the first place. Won't do it again.

Pete

Allen, if I can make a suggestion? I'm already a War Room member and my suggestion doesn't gain me a thing but I'm still going to say it because I think it's an idea worth considering.

Perhaps your longest standing members, especially those that joined when this was a paid-only forum, have earned the right to a free War Room upgrade or a different title like 'Legacy Member' or 'Charter Member'?

I'm thinking of folks like Robert Puddy, Willie Crawford, Marlon, Paul Myers, and many others that have shared their priceless advice with all those that have since followed in their footsteps.

It's folks like the original Warriors who helped many of the current "top" Warriors (whatever top means to you) when they were wet behind the ears beginners themselves. Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing them getting some additional props for all of their years of helping the rest of us.

Take care,

Mike

[Kat Bartone]

Hi Allen,

I'm so happy that you've made this move. You're right - we've been heading in the wrong direction for awhile. In fact, I've been hanging out here much less frequently of late precisely because of some of the seediness that I've seen growing here. Yes, those seeds begin to take root, and before you know it, we're overrun with weeds.

I'm just hoping that this will serve as enough of a deterrent to the undesired element. Already I noticed one fellow in the WR had been offering something free to WR members that he had running as a $10 WSO. Well, he started seeing it out on the 'net, freely available. Doesn't mean it necessarily came from a WR member, but it's possible. So he's started to charge for it - a nominal amount, grant you, but the idea is that he's realized that even in the WR, he has to do some 'filtering'.

Bottom line, I wonder if the low price point for the WR will serve as enough of a deterrent? If someone is going to repeatedly throw out twenty bucks for a scammy WSO, they may not hesitate to lay out a measly $37 bucks to continue to have the right to do so.

Ultimately, I have complete confidence in the decisions you make. Thanks for doing this.

- Kat

[Steven Wagenheim]

Originally Posted by MikeHumphreys

Allen, if I can make a suggestion? I'm already a War Room member and my suggestion doesn't gain me a thing but I'm still going to say it because I think it's an idea worth considering.

Perhaps your longest standing members, especially those that joined when this was a paid-only forum, have earned the right to a free War Room upgrade or a different title like 'Legacy Member' or 'Charter Member'?

I'm thinking of folks like Robert Puddy, Willie Crawford, Marlon, Paul Myers, and many others that have shared their priceless advice with all those that have since followed in their footsteps.

It's folks like the original Warriors who helped many of the current "top" Warriors (whatever top means to you) when they were wet behind the ears beginners themselves. Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing them getting some additional props for all of their years of helping the rest of us.

Take care,

Mike

I agree with Mike. I think the real old timers deserve something for all
they've given to this forum. I can't begin to tell you how many of those
members have helped me since I've joined just a few short years ago.

Thanks for the great suggestion Mike.

[yezbick99]

Originally Posted by john_kennedy

See above. Per Allen's last post, the fee still applies. The $37 makes you a member and gives you the ability to post a WSO. Nonmembers can no longer post a WSO.

Ok, thank you for pointing this out.

[David McKee]

Welcome everyone I have upgraded and the reason is clear - this forum is worth its weight in gold - and I mean literal gold.

I believe this will make it even more valuable. Thanks Allen!

David T. McKee

[Melody]

This is terrific! I was a paid member, as a hosting client of Allen, and then paid to join the WarRoom. I have never minded paying when asked here, because I have ALWAYS received far more value than Allen has ever asked monetarily.

Kudos on this decision!!

Melody

[JustinK]

20 years subscription o.0 for 37$?
So does this mean we cant post in wso with the regular 20$ but if we are members we get to post them for free?

[MichaelHiles]

"This town needs an enema...."

[R Hagel]

I like what Allen said in another post:

We're already getting help desk complaints that are very ironic.

Someone doing enough action and business on here to be dealing with tons of PM's a day is going to gripe about this?

Let me get this straight - you are making money here and doing good business but yet you don't want to be a full member?

Couldn't have said it better myself.

And for those folks who don't have the $37 ... I can understand that. I was once in a position where I literally had to look for change in my couch just to come up with the few dollars to buy milk. It's embarrassing to buy milk with pennies. Eventually I even ran out of change.

So, I've been there, done that... and I KNOW it's possible to overcome it.

First, shake off any notion that it's impossible. Start by going to the Mind Warriors section. Make some goals -- some as small as the $37 needed to upgrade, and other larger goals (e.g., how much you want to make per month). Write them down. Commit to them.

Then come back to the main discussion forum and figure out a plan to achieve those goals. Read through all the "I need to make $XXXX" posts, as they tended to be loaded with plans for quick money-makers. If you put your mind to it, create a plan AND take action... you could have the $37 to upgrade by the end of today.

BTW -- if you just read that above line and disagreed with me -- if you had a knee jerk "no way!" reaction -- please proceed to the Mind Warriors forum. Don't pass Go. Don't collect $200.

Cheers,
Becky

P.S. Once you get the cash injection you need to have a little breathing room, then start building a business. In other words, don't do "money makers" forever, as that's exhausting. It's much easier to leverage your assets (such as a list) by building a business.