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For some this might be the ultimate JV.

I have a proven system, but I can't grow fast enough.

Here is what I'll provide in this JV:

1. Autoresponder service along with setup of autoresponder sequence and all other maintenance involved.

2. Blog software along with installation and operation of the blogroll and other non-posting areas of the blog.

3. Multivariate testing software along with setup and operation to maximize our sales.

4. Automated system for promoting Clickbank products in the niche of your choice.

5. Automated system for putting Adsense code on the most profitable pages of the blog.

6. Some automated traffic building systems and their maintenance.

Here is what you will provide in this JV:

1. A registered and hosted domain on a cpanel, plesk or ensim powered host.

2. A passion for some profitable niche (tell me your niche in your PM to me... no IM niches! dating, forex, stock options, bodybuilding, weight loss, diet, beauty, marriage, scrapbooking, etc are great.).

3. Your own Clickbank affiliate account.

4. Your own Google Adsense account.

5. Your own PayPal account. You don't have to trust me with money. All earnings from our JV will be going directly to you and you will then pay me my 50% at the end of each month.

6. The ability to write at least one article per day Monday-Friday excluding holidays on the topic of the niche of your own passion (the niche that matches the above domain).

7. The ability and willingness to post that article on the blog that will be running on your domain.

8. The ability and willingness to submit that article to at least three different syndication web-sites every day.

9. The ability and willingness to respond to comments left on your blog.

10. The ability and willingness to pay me 50% of the Clickbank, Adsense and PayPal earnings from the domain you own and we are working on together.

Termination conditions:

Either of us can cancel our JV at any time for any reason. If we cancel, we will notify the other person. At the time of cancellation, you pay me the 50% of Clickbank, Adsense and PayPal earnings that are owed at the time of cancellation.

You keep your domain and accounts. You remove my software from your host. You continue to own all of the articles you wrote and submitted.

PM me if you are interested. I'm only taking three people right now.

Demonstrate your ability to write in your PM to me or it will be deleted without response.

Mention any other promotion techniques you are an expert in and would be willing to do in addition to the above for the site we work on together.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ken Preuss
    Kristi,

    I've been at this game a while and have done extremely well in the grand scheme. But I have to admit, there are a few topics I've always wanted to pursue were it not for the "machinery" needed to sustain them on top of what I'm already doing. For this reason your JV offer is most intriguing.

    I'll be offline for most of the evening and morning. But you may well get a PM from me in the next day or two. Fascinating offer to say the least.

    Ken
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  • Profile picture of the author KristiDaniels
    I think I have one other than Ken (still confirming details). Ken would make two. I still have one more slot definitely available.
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  • Profile picture of the author flexalong
    Originally Posted by KristiDaniels View Post

    For some this might be the ultimate JV.

    I have a proven system, but I can't grow fast enough.

    Here is what I'll provide in this JV:

    1. Autoresponder service along with setup of autoresponder sequence and all other maintenance involved.

    2. Blog software along with installation and operation of the blogroll and other non-posting areas of the blog.

    3. Multivariate testing software along with setup and operation to maximize our sales.

    4. Automated system for promoting Clickbank products in the niche of your choice.

    5. Automated system for putting Adsense code on the most profitable pages of the blog.

    6. Some automated traffic building systems and their maintenance.

    Here is what you will provide in this JV:

    1. A registered and hosted domain on a cpanel, plesk or ensim powered host.

    2. A passion for some profitable niche (tell me your niche in your PM to me... no IM niches! dating, forex, stock options, bodybuilding, weight loss, diet, beauty, marriage, scrapbooking, etc are great.).

    3. Your own Clickbank affiliate account.

    4. Your own Google Adsense account.

    5. Your own PayPal account. You don't have to trust me with money. All earnings from our JV will be going directly to you and you will then pay me my 50% at the end of each month.

    6. The ability to write at least one article per day Monday-Friday excluding holidays on the topic of the niche of your own passion (the niche that matches the above domain).

    7. The ability and willingness to post that article on the blog that will be running on your domain.

    8. The ability and willingness to submit that article to at least three different syndication web-sites every day.

    9. The ability and willingness to respond to comments left on your blog.

    10. The ability and willingness to pay me 50% of the Clickbank, Adsense and PayPal earnings from the domain you own and we are working on together.

    Termination conditions:

    Either of us can cancel our JV at any time for any reason. If we cancel, we will notify the other person. At the time of cancellation, you pay me the 50% of Clickbank, Adsense and PayPal earnings that are owed at the time of cancellation.

    You keep your domain and accounts. You remove my software from your host. You continue to own all of the articles you wrote and submitted.

    PM me if you are interested. I'm only taking three people right now.

    Demonstrate your ability to write in your PM to me or it will be deleted without response.

    Mention any other promotion techniques you are an expert in and would be willing to do in addition to the above for the site we work on together.
    Hi Kristi, would it be ok if I outsource the article writing and blog posting? I am going to start a full time job so I might not have the time for that. And also, if I already installed a blog, would that be a problem?

    I am currently in the process of setting up my online venture which revolves around the theme of health and wealth. I know it's pretty broad and untargeted but I think in this way it can serve a wider array of audiences.

    My site is still in the works as well as an ebook which is already written but pending a 3d cover design and sales page. Besides that, I satisfy most of your requirements except for 4, 7 and 8 which can be easily resolved once I get site indexed and tasks outsourced.

    It would be great for me if I can JV with someone like you who have a proven system of advertising and selling online. So, let me know if I stand a chance to qualify as your JV partner.

    Cheers,
    Taylor
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  • Profile picture of the author cleaning72
    my adsense account will be banned for autoblog traffic?
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  • Profile picture of the author KristiDaniels
    Flexalong,

    No. Why would I do that? I could just outsource it myself if that was the goal. I want a quality writer who is passionate about the subject of their blog.

    -Kristi
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  • Profile picture of the author KristiDaniels
    cleaning72,

    You are the only writer for your blog with this JV. No autoblogging is allowed.

    -Kristi
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  • Profile picture of the author KristiDaniels
    Affiliateprocom,

    No. I haven't even come to terms with one yet. The first contact seems to have disappeared. I haven't heard from them after the first two PMs.

    Ken was the 2nd contact and he hasn't PM'd me yet so he may no longer be interested.

    The third contact is proposing that he is passionate about car and truck loans and can write an article every day on that subject. I'm challenging him to tell me about his interest in that subject. Someone really passionate about any subject can talk your ear off about it. It's possible to be passionate about car and truck loans, but it's so unlikely that if you propose that as your passion, I'm going to challenge you on it.

    So if you can write about your passion daily and are interested in the other terms of the JV, then PM me. I'm still trying to find three people.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ken Preuss
    Kristi,

    Haven't forgotten about you, just happen to be a bit swamped coming into the weekend. Will communicate with you one way or the other by the top of next week at the latest.

    By the way, I agree with you... car and truck loans?? Can't imagine anyone being passionate about them - although I admit this business never ceases to amaze me.

    Ken
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  • Profile picture of the author Batman
    Is the last spot taken??

    My niche is in online dating...

    I'll pm you back too...

    Batman
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  • Profile picture of the author KristiDaniels
    Ken,

    I'll hold a spot for you.

    Batman,

    If you are single and actually involved and interested in the dating scene... and can write an article daily about dating... then PM me.

    I'm only looking for qualified writers who are actually passionate about their selected topic for this JV though.

    Update: I have one JV partner all set up and running now.

    Another did the disappearing act. Another backed out when I didn't buy that he was passionate about car and truck loans.

    I'm still looking for at least one more JV partner on this and maybe two.

    I still need one and possibly two people who have the above qualifications and would like to work together on the JV I proposed.

    If you are interested, PM me. We'll explore your passion and see if we can work together.

    As you can see, sometimes it will work out. I set up the first JV partner this morning without a hitch.

    And sometimes it won't work out. As you can see, I wasn't able to work out anything with Doug.

    We won't know if you or I can work something out unless or until you PM me and we start the exploration process. PM me if you think we might be able to work together in the way that I described in the above post.

    I think it is the ultimate JV for someone with a passion and writing skills who might otherwise drown in all of the details of running a business (traffic generation, software maintenance, Information Technology concerns, HTML, PHP, copywriting, multivariate testing, product creation, access control, databases, autoresponders, etc). I'll handle all of those tasks. You just need to be passionate about something that can be monetized and be willing and able to write about it daily.

    It is probably NOT the right opportunity for a lot of other people. The only way we can find out is if you drop me a PM so we can explore it together. The worse that can happen is that you'll receive a PM from me saying "I don't think we can work together. Good luck in your future endeavors."

    Apparently I need to clarify the requirements of this JV. Those I have been working with to try to set up the JV seem to misunderstand every requirement. Let me give more detail about what I do NOT mean:

    Here is what you will provide in this JV:

    1. A registered and hosted domain on a cpanel, plesk or ensim powered host.

    This doesn't mean an "add on domain." It doesn't mean a domain that is used for something else and you'll provide a folder for this project. It means an exclusively registered and individually hosted domain. There will be nothing else other than our project on this domain.

    2. A passion for some profitable niche (tell me your niche in your PM to me... no IM niches! dating, forex, stock options, bodybuilding, weight loss, diet, beauty, marriage, scrapbooking, etc are great.).

    Passion means passion. It means that is the subject you always steer the conversation towards during dinner conversations. You can write about it endlessly. You sometimes annoy your friends and family by talking about this topic too much. If you didn't have a job, you would be doing this thing most of the day or researching it, reading about it, watching videos about it, planning to do it, and all of the other things that go along with a passion. Your ideal job would be to do something associated with this interest.

    3. Your own Clickbank affiliate account.

    By "affiliate" account, I mean the normal free account for Clickbank. You don't have to be a Clickbank vendor. Just sign up and have an account name. I don't need your Clickbank password for this JV. I only need your Clickbank affiliate ID so I can put up links to Clickbank products using your affiliate ID. You'll be paid the commissions. Then at the end of the month, you pay me half of what you earned.

    4. Your own Google Adsense account.

    Same as for #3. I don't need your password. I just need your publisher ID so Adsense can be placed in the blog posts if it will be profitable. It hasn't been profitable for most sites, but we do need your publisher ID to test it for your site.

    5. Your own PayPal account. You don't have to trust me with money. All earnings from our JV will be going directly to you and you will then pay me my 50% at the end of each month.

    Products and services are being sold on the JV site via PayPal. I just need your PayPal email address. I don't need your PayPal password. Your PayPal email address will be used to create payment buttons for those products and services. At the end of the month, you will pay me half of what sold via PayPal.

    6. The ability to write at least one article per day Monday-Friday excluding holidays on the topic of the niche of your own passion (the niche that matches the above domain).

    Write means write. It doesn't mean to purchase PLR articles or repurpose content from an existing blog or to rewrite articles taken from Ezine Articles. It doesn't mean outsourcing article writing to a third world country.

    If you can write and you are passionate about a subject then you will have no problem writing an article per day on that subject. If you need to use PLR or repurposed content, then this JV isn't for you. It is for people with a passion who can write.

    The article lengths don't matter although then do need to be articles and not blurbs. By definition, an article has a minimum length of something like 700 words and a maximum length of about 5000 words. If you have to count words, then this JV isn't for you. You should able to write effortlessly about your passion and it shouldn't be a burden that would make you want to count words to get to that bare minimum of 700. If an article comes in a little short at 600 or 550 words one day and that is the right length for that article, that's fine. The word count doesn't matter. The passion and the ability to write matters.

    7. The ability and willingness to post that article on the blog that will be running on your domain.

    I haven't had any misunderstandings on this one yet. Hopefully that is clear enough.

    8. The ability and willingness to submit that article to at least three different syndication web-sites every day.

    It doesn't matter the syndication sites. There are thousands on the web. Just mix it up and submit the latest article to three every day. If you run out of sites that are easily found, you will remember a competing author or two that you keep running into as you posted to the first couple thousand syndication sites. Search for their name. They know how to find article sydication sites. When you search for their name, you will see where they submitted their articles.

    9. The ability and willingness to respond to comments left on your blog.

    I haven't had any misunderstandings on this one. Hopefully it is clear.

    10. The ability and willingness to pay me 50% of the Clickbank, Adsense and PayPal earnings from the domain you own and we are working on together.

    All of the earnings go to your accounts so you don't have to trust me with the money. The software is also tracking the most important payments in the process of providing the products and services that are being sold. So I will have knowledge of how much was earned. So I don't have to trust you very much either. I'll know if you short changed me at the end of the month.

    Trust is an issue with most JVs with strangers. This is how I structured this JV so that we didn't have to worry about trust. The money comes to your accounts first so you don't have to trust me. I still have to trust you to pay me, but if you don't... then we part ways and you don't have the opportunity to use the software to earn more money.

    I hope those clarifications help. I have one JV set up and running. I would still like to set up two more. PM me if you think you would be a good fit for this JV.
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    • Profile picture of the author stumblerum
      Kristi - I am just going to play devil's advocate here.

      From what you said, you will provide the autoresponder sequence. Presumably the software too. Does that mean you also own the list that you're building off my work? What happens if we break up? Do I get to keep my list?

      What can your multivariate testing software do that Google Website Optimiser cannot? Do you provide the landing pages? The ad copy? The product?

      What is an "automated system for promoting Clickbank products"? You mean landing pages using traffic from the list that my writing is generating?

      What automated traffic building systems? Can you explain that a little more?
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  • Profile picture of the author KristiDaniels
    You aren't a candidate for this JV.

    The right person for this JV is passionate about something and enjoys writing.

    They would like to team up with someone who will take care of all of the minutia.

    You are interested in the minutia. So this isn't for you.
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    • Profile picture of the author stumblerum
      Actually I have two blogs about things I am passionate about and I write about every day, including many weekends, and would fit your criteria almost perfectly as I am already basically doing what is in your criteria (and a hell of a lot more actually).

      And describing ownership of the email list as "minutia" is quite hilarious.
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  • Profile picture of the author DanielCW
    Hi there KristiDaniels

    I would be interested in taking you up on your offer. I would PM you but apparently i do not have enough posts. As you can see I am very fresh here. Is there another way I can contact you? I feel I am quite a good writer and have no problem working hard.
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  • Profile picture of the author DanielCW
    Perhaps if you don't mind KristiDaniels sending me a PM with your contact details and then we can proceed from that point onwards.

    Thank You

    Daniel
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  • Profile picture of the author KristiDaniels
    Stumblerum,

    It is minutia to the person I am looking for. The question never came up for the two ideal candidates that I am now working with. As I said, you aren't an ideal candidate. The ideal candidate doesn't want to worry about those things. They want to write about their passion and focus on that.

    Focus is incredibly important to success. For those with a passion and writing skills, this can be the perfect JV for them to be able to focus on their strengths and forget about all of the other tasks that it takes to run a successful online buisness.

    You aren't that person. Your focus isn't on writing and your passion. It is on list building. That's great. But that means you aren't a candidate for this JV.

    Daniel,

    Drop me a PM once you have contributed here enough to be able to send PMs.
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    • Profile picture of the author stumblerum
      Kristi - I was never a candidate for your JV. I was responding in order to make your plans more transparent to others who might be fooled. And I am sure no newbie even brought it up - that's because they're newbies and don't really know what questions to ask.

      You may not be being dishonest, but you sure as hell aren't being transparent.

      The biggest asset in this joint venture is the list. You are usurping ownership of the list which is built with the hard work of the writer. You are not disclosing this inconvenient piece of information.

      Anyone who thinks that is a good deal for the writer is an idiot.

      On the other hand, if the writer retains ownership of the list, it's a solid and fair joint venture.

      Good luck finding more vitims.
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  • Profile picture of the author KristiDaniels
    The writer has full access to the list upon termination. My terms were clear and transparent.

    At termination, my software is removed, but the writer retains access to everything they built. If they care about the list (which neither one of the JVs I have set up even care), then they still have it in a text file on their site at termination.

    I don't care about any list other than the buyers list myself. The buyers list is in the PayPal account of the writer, so I am certainly not depriving them of that data.

    The candidates for this JV are focused on their passion and on writing, not on list building. List building is your focus, not theirs and not mine.

    You admit you are not a candidate for this JV. That makes you a troll. Trolling is against the TOS here!
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    • Profile picture of the author stumblerum
      If they care about the list (which neither one of the JVs I have set up even care), then they still have it in a text file on their site at termination.
      Does that mean you will delete the list from your own records? Cos if both you and the writer are emailing that list, it means at least one of you are probably going to be breaking spam laws.

      I don't care about any list other than the buyers list myself. The buyers list is in the PayPal account of the writer, so I am certainly not depriving them of that data.
      Fair enough.

      The candidates for this JV are focused on their passion and on writing, not on list building. List building is your focus, not theirs and not mine.
      Not according to your other posts on this forum. And the it sounds like you're only wanting to work with people who don't really know what they're doing when it comes to IM and so are a lot more vulnerable to being ripped off by a slick sales pitch.

      You admit you are not a candidate for this JV. That makes you a troll. Trolling is against the TOS here!
      lol - if asking perfectly legitimate questions in order to save newbies or myself from being scammed makes me a troll, then I am proud to claim the mantle.

      Frankly this JV might be legit but your attitude and refusal to answer perfectly legitimate questions in an open and transparent way in this thread means my BS alarm is ringing loudly.
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  • Profile picture of the author KristiDaniels
    I've already told you that you aren't welcome in this JV.

    Posting here implying that this JV is fraudulent is trolling. Your admitted goal is to try to convince others that this is a fraudulent JV. You are doing that with lies and implications that are false. That is the definition of trolling.

    This JV isn't for people who are obsessed with lists. If you are obsessed with lists, then move along to the next JV. I'm sure you'll find a lot of JVs that are meant for people obsesses with lists.

    Nobody is going to violate any CAN-SPAM laws or any other laws. We aren't autoblogging like another troll tried to imply. I'm not trying to trick authors into building a list for me. Our sites aren't even geared toward list building. The signup box is buried way down at the bottom of the page after the footer. My average buyer to subscriber rate is two to one. I don't care about freebie seeker subscribers and have no intention on stealing anything from anyone.

    My benefits are during the JV. After the JV, I simply take my software and go home. It is my intention to continue the JV as long as possible, but I always build a termination clause into any JV. That is all my termination clause says. My software is removed. It doesn't say anything about me stealing lists or anything else. In fact, it clearly states that the author gets to keep EVERYTHING they created. They just don't get to keep my software.

    This JV is for people who are obsessed with writing about their passion and want to make money doing that without worrying about all of the minutia.

    It is a proven system that earned the average person who posted once a day for at least 30 days an average of $402/month. I don't have data yet for anything after the first month, but I'm sure that number will improve. I want writers who are passionate about subject other that my own passions for a JV in order to grow faster. I was very transparent about my reasons in my original JV post. They haven't changed.

    Now please stop trolling this post. You have already been turned down and your obsession with lists has nothing to do with this JV. It is your obsession, not mine and not the obsession of the ideal candidate.
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