Newbies - Stick together!

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Hi Everyone.

I've had my site up and running about a month now and have taken in so much information over this period.

My total outlay is $310.79 within that are some essential costs such as my hosting and autoresponder - some are costs to be members of affiliate programs I am using such as Empowerism and some costs are mistakes I have made - like every newbie my head was turned to easily and now I have learnt to keep my credit card in my wallet, even if I can 'become a millionaire overnight'.

My total income is $46.50 (Although I am getting residual income of $10 per month) I won't see this for another 10 months though as the minimum payout for UK residents is $100.

So overall have lost money - but that is expected as I don't hold any influence in the online world, I have no reputation - although I will look to build on that over the next year.

One thing that I have started to do recently is build my list (this is where the money is apparently). Recently I have been averaging about 3 signups per day. It's not that much for most people but with my list only being small, if you look at it in percentage growth it is quite good! I have done this by participating in Giveaway events, a bit of PPC advertising and also posting on forums. So minimal cost.

From posting on the WF I notice a lot of the more successful members advertising JV's using there huge lists. Being a newbie I have absolutely no chance of being involved in this as they have nothing to gain from me and my small list.

BUT what if we had a newbie JV? Just for the purpose of list building. I would be willing to send a broadcast to my list explaining that I had an offer of some free e-books or software for them and then just direct them to your lead capture page.

I understand you couldn't start sending out hundreds of emails out to your list offering hundreds of offers as that would probably lose you more people than it would gain and you'd be looked upon as a spammer.

It's also a good opportunity to exchange stories - look at how other people market their site, and create relationships for the future. (Also, I'm going to need a golf partner for when I've got all those millions in the bank!) :rolleyes:

Just an idea anyway - I'm ready to be shot down!

Regards

Dave
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  • Profile picture of the author methomas
    Hi Dave,

    JV EDGE is doing small list JVs.

    JV EDGE is doing the broker work and charging nothing.

    Check out jv-edge.com
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    • Profile picture of the author Pearlin
      Originally Posted by methomas View Post

      Hi Dave,

      JV EDGE is doing small list JVs.

      JV EDGE is doing the broker work and charging nothing.

      Check out jv-edge.com
      Hi Methomas,

      I emailed you at JV-Edge but have not received a reply from you.
      It will be great if I can work with you.
      You can reach me at pearlins@gmail.com

      I have a small list in the IM niche.
      Thanks!
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      • Profile picture of the author bryce
        Originally Posted by Pearlin View Post

        Hi Methomas,

        I emailed you at JV-Edge but have not received a reply from you.
        It will be great if I can work with you.
        You can reach me at pearlins@gmail.com

        I have a small list in the IM niche.
        Thanks!
        Hello Pearlin,

        This question may be slightly off topic, but then again maybe it isnt. I notice in your sig you have a link to your site, where you are promoting an "exclusive interview" with the self-professed guru "Ewen Chia"..... I would like to know the following if at all possible, and as this thread is all about providing TRUE value for people NEW to the internet and making online revenue, I think the question may be of interest to others. If not then I am sure I will get a swift kick up the ass, lol.

        1. Did you "actually" interview Ewen Chia?
        2. Have you actually made more than $70,000 in 72 hours as is quoted in the sales material?
        3. Do you "actually" apply the methods he promotes, and if so, with what results?

        Here are the reasons for my questions, and this is a classic case of what "newbies" have to watch out very closely for.

        NOBODY without a substantial list of responsive buyers, will ever make $70,000 in 72 hours! In order to make that kind of money, with a product that costs $70 you would need to have 1000 buyers! In order to get 1000 buyers (even at a massive conversion rate of 10% sales!) the seller would have needed to market his product to 10000 active responsive buyers.

        This guru you promote is the one who sold me a product quoted as "the best thing ever", only to find that the information was more than 4 years old, and some of the sites listed in the product were no longer online. This is NOT someone I would ever do business with again. For him to even put his name to such a promotion is shameful.

        Anyway that is my opinion and as I said, it may be off topic, every so slightly, but I thought it was worth asking the questions. In some respects I think it is these questions that every newbie would like to ask.

        Regards
        Bryce
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  • Profile picture of the author audio90
    hi, maybe you can tell us more about what JV edge is?
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  • Profile picture of the author TheCren
    Depending on what niche you're in, I think I've got some advice for you. I'll assume your list is interested in IM.

    First off: Since you posted this almost 2 weeks ago I think you might have a decent list (42 more than when you wrote this @ 3/day). Join JVNotifyPro.com and you can monetize your list with product launches that you will be notified about via email. There are TONS of product launches each month. Pick them carefully. As you said, you don't want to appear to be a spammer. Another trick is to purchase some PLR garbage to feed them (either for free, or a small price).

    Second: I assume you have a website... are you monetizing it? If not, then why?? I'd say go with a Wordpress blog and use the WP-O-Matic and GoCodes plugins to create content and links to affiliate offers, respectively (PM me for the link to the WF post that clarifies this sentence for you).

    Also PM me for JV opportunities. I'm just now setting up my IM site. If you are in the credit building or World of Warcraft niches, I can also do those.

    Happy Earning,
    TheCren
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    • Profile picture of the author johnash118
      Like the idea, it is difficult when you have no name and no money, I have lot's of plr stuff you can use in return for advertising some of my offers - I am following you on twitter, let me know if interested - dean
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      • Profile picture of the author redmeance
        I am new to the game as well.Great minds think alike and it a very power thing when they accually come together for one common goal.Maybe you,Mr Chamberlin and myself can get together and see what we can come up with.
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    • Profile picture of the author alonpy
      Why assume he is on a IM niche.
      If he only started 1 month ago, and he is going on the IM niche this is un-logical ...
      If you go IM and have nothing to really give your list you are going to get a bad name, this is like a pyramid game. If you have experience then you go IM it is something alse.
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    • Profile picture of the author nandico
      Hi,

      Not enough post to pm could you pm me with more infp?
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    • Profile picture of the author la dominatrix
      Originally Posted by TheCren View Post

      .................Another trick is to purchase some PLR garbage to feed them (either for free, or a small price).
      Just a point butsurely you are better writing soem good content, it is not rocket science, if you know your niche. Even newbies understand that PLR content is garbage, and most people don't want or need it
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  • Profile picture of the author cheftony
    Agreed..doing some affiliate marketing, and list building for tatoos...any products I can sell them ? I have about 100 people, but from PPC...kinda expensive.

    Will be on WF more, listeing to Yaro Starak audio now...cool stuff.
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  • Profile picture of the author David Chamberlain
    Hi

    Lots has happened since this post - I was and am in the IM niche and have plenty of useful information for my list - although I am in the process of writing a new series.

    I am also working in the Real Estate Niche, and have recently looked at site flipping.

    I have seen some good results in the last few weeks - using various traffic generation techniques. I will be sharing these in the future - if someone relatively new to the game can generate the traffic organically - why can't other newbies? I feel I am well placed to help aswell, as it wasn't to long ago I was there.

    Who knows - I may even have some ideas that seasoned Im'ers don't have!

    Although this game is one of experience, I also think it is down to personality. I am proactive, don't put things off 'till tomorrow' and have lots of drive and ambition. This has helped me grow my business initially, and now I can afford to outsource certain things, which, in my opinion, is the best way to progress, as you can focus on other aspects OR broaden your skillbase.

    I have met some good people along the way, and have forged good working relationships, I also think that JV's are a good way to grow. At the minute I have 3 websites in the pipeline, i am working with 3 seperate partners.

    The reason for this is because as of yet, I haven't had time to research and teach myself Web Design, although I will do when I have the time.

    Using the knowledge I have, I am responsible for marketing the sites - so I don't have to pay a designer.

    You may say I will only see 50% of the profits - BUT I stick to what I know, and what I can do efficiently. If I made my own site then I would only have 1 in the pipeline and it would take me longer to produce, whereas, I now have 3 being worked on - do the maths!

    I work full time as an accountant - so its not easy. I have set a date to quit in 6 months though. That is what I am working towards. I have my goals written down and I have already achieved half of them.

    Personally, I am pleased with what I am building - when it is built and I have the time. I will make it my mission to help people change their lives, I know that it is changing mine.

    Regards

    David Chamberlain
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    • Profile picture of the author bryce
      I think the idea is a good one! For a long time, a long time ago I banged my head on a brick wall trying to get some (what I thought were) quality products to market, and to no avail.

      I then wrote a 50 page ebook warning people of the scams that were around, and providing genuine work from home opportunies offered by some of Americas top companies. I then completed a software product to save people money and time, all the time targeted at people new to the internet. The problem was I spent my time creating new ideas, solutions, websites and products, and little time building lists of ineterested people.

      I hate spam, bullshit and scammy bonuses, and personally I stay away from these as a customer. I therefore dont do this kind of stuff with my own products.

      What I have just started is (as you mention) site flipping, and have sold 3 to date. I have just finished the basic foundation for my next site at www.sites4sale.aceslegacy.com, and here I start to deal with the flipping business and Internet traffic, etc.

      I have a range of great products and product ideas, and I would love nothing more than to see a small group of newbies make lots of money from these, keeping the gurus away. I mean, 200 newbies with marketing lists of 100 people each is already 20000 subscribers to promote to.

      I will be subscribing to this thread to see where it goes. In the meantime, if anyone is interested in this concept, and wants to get involved or take a look at what I have on the new site, let me know. That would be cool.

      Thanks for this thread
      Bryce
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      • Profile picture of the author Traveler51
        WOW! Thanks! I'm a real newbie here and am just wandering around trying to soak up the knowlege! This is a great place to settle into!
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        • Profile picture of the author elaine drennan
          Originally Posted by Traveler51 View Post

          WOW! Thanks! I'm a real newbie here and am just wandering around trying to soak up the knowlege! This is a great place to settle into!
          Hi Traveler51!

          I love it too!!

          Your quote is great "Be Humble and don't stumble" - I like that
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  • Profile picture of the author David Chamberlain
    Hi Bryce

    I like your take on things.

    When you start out - everyone is offering to help, BUT they will take your money first, and after that - you will be lucky to hear from them sometimes!

    As I am only growing my business now, I find it hard to give people a hand up - but I will do so when I have the time to.

    I have lots of ambitions and I want to experience as many ways to make a living online as possible - obviously not all at once - but I'm only young, so time is on my side!

    Let me know about your products - and maybe we should try and do something with your idea of 200 newbies.

    Either PM me - or my Skype details are on my profile!

    Thanks

    Dave
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    • Profile picture of the author bryce
      Originally Posted by dave_667 View Post

      Hi Bryce

      I like your take on things.

      When you start out - everyone is offering to help, BUT they will take your money first, and after that - you will be lucky to hear from them sometimes!

      As I am only growing my business now, I find it hard to give people a hand up - but I will do so when I have the time to.

      I have lots of ambitions and I want to experience as many ways to make a living online as possible - obviously not all at once - but I'm only young, so time is on my side!

      Let me know about your products - and maybe we should try and do something with your idea of 200 newbies.

      Either PM me - or my Skype details are on my profile!

      Thanks

      Dave
      Thanks Dave,

      You are right about the "taking your money" thing, I have been there many times. This is one of the reasons I designed and built the EZYTRAK system, and only went with offers and deals that had a minimum of 30days guarantee time. This gave me time to analyse the material, decide if it was for me, and then EZYTRAK would automatically remind when the guarantee deadline was looming. I could then effect the guarantee in time.

      I was also considering a small site that was dedicated to "Poor Online Service" where bad sellers, merchants, etc would be listed for all to see. In fact this could still be on the cards. Maybe it is something that Newbies could benefit by.... Like an early warning system of sorts. Hmmmm lets not give too much away in case we can set this up.

      Regarding your "giving people a hand up" I believe this has already been done by you creating this thread. I think there is always scope for people to help others, no matter where they are at. There is always going to be people that know less than you do.

      Your attitude and ambitions are what is important to succeed. It sounds like you are certianly in the right head space to make it work for you.

      I will PM you with details about the products. In the meantime, if you would like to take a look at the EZYTRAK software details head over to www.ezytrak.com and there you will find the "sample" page with a tutorial linked to it. This will give you an overview of the product. Personally I think every person who is spending money online, should have it. It will save them lots of money and time.

      Talk soon - I love the idea of forming a Newbie space where everyone can benefit with very little resources.

      Regards
      Bryce
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    • Profile picture of the author JimCape
      Hey Dave
      I am a true newbie myself. I started a blog about a week ago. I found this warrior forum and there is so much information here. I enjoy reading your posts as it makes me feel like I can do this internet thing. I also work full time and would really jump at the chance to be able to work from home doing something I love. Creating an online business!
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  • Profile picture of the author marketopoly
    This is a truly great idea and I will be following this thread closely as I am currently writing a series of ebooks for Newbies.
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    • Profile picture of the author bryce
      Originally Posted by marketopoly View Post

      This is a truly great idea and I will be following this thread closely as I am currently writing a series of ebooks for Newbies.
      Totally agree, and there has never been a better time in my opinion, as the numbers of unemployed rise beyond comprehension!
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  • Profile picture of the author David Chamberlain
    Hi Marketopoly

    I'm in the same process - writing a comprehensive collection of e-books on traffic generation.

    I really think that we can provide a resource - maybe just a website with books/software which we have tried and tested.

    This vetting process will mean that the only products on the site are reputable, valuable and easy to use/implement.

    I'll make it my aim to try and get something sorted soon!

    Once we have something up and running, we will just have to look for people to contribute products for free - Or provide products to be reviewed and sold.

    Regards

    Dave
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    • Profile picture of the author bryce
      Originally Posted by dave_667 View Post

      Hi Marketopoly

      I'm in the same process - writing a comprehensive collection of e-books on traffic generation.

      I really think that we can provide a resource - maybe just a website with books/software which we have tried and tested.

      This vetting process will mean that the only products on the site are reputable, valuable and easy to use/implement.

      I'll make it my aim to try and get something sorted soon!

      Once we have something up and running, we will just have to look for people to contribute products for free - Or provide products to be reviewed and sold.

      Regards

      Dave
      Personally I think the basic provision of books and software is not enough! Think about all the issues and brick walls you have come across since being online, and i believe there could be a site creation here, that outstrips everything already in place. A one stop shop for newbies. (AND ONLY NEWBIES)

      I like the idea of "vetting" and there are some different ways of doing this! i agree with the idea of only having material that has been tested by the site developers, and or members, and this will go a long way for the reputation of the site.

      There is also scope for a Membership Site beyond compare! A small monthly charge for anything and everything avaiable on the site.

      Although i have not added the membership option yet, my site at www.sites4sale.aceslegacy.com is already providing useful articles (unique) and resources that I have personally used, tested, and enjoyed. The initial flavour of the site was to to sell websites, and I have now expanded this to run along my original platform of The Newbie Lounge.

      This is already getting exciting, and more serious conversation and planning should probably be happening off forum.

      Regards
      Bryce
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      • Profile picture of the author jetinc
        I'm so glad I found this forum. I know it will be a tremendous help to someone just starting out. I will continue returning here to see the latest.
        Thanks,
        jetinc
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        • Profile picture of the author bryce
          Originally Posted by jetinc View Post

          I'm so glad I found this forum. I know it will be a tremendous help to someone just starting out. I will continue returning here to see the latest.
          Thanks,
          jetinc
          Hi jetinc,

          This is a pretty cool forum, and I have spent a lot of time here over the past years. Not nearly as much as others, but there have been reasons, lol.

          Actually to cut in with something at this point, I know this thread has been started by Dave, and I too appreciate that he bought the issue to the surface. I am not taking over the thread, (hehe sorry Dave) but I have been PMing Dave and we have some form of understanding as to where we would like to take this idea. From that standpoint, I feel comfortable responding to posts here. I am sure Dave is cool with it too

          Bookmark the thread jetinc, I am sure you will find it a great thread in days & weeks to come.

          Regards
          Bryce
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  • Profile picture of the author laghabek
    Hi Bryce,

    Me too - I spent lots of time on the product development and little time on promotion and list building. I am not in the IM niche but might consider it as soon as I have success in some of the areas of IM.
    I noticed that it is not easy to approach people with big lists.
    I have a small list and I'd like to do a JV as you mention with 200 other people with small (100 people) lists - that will be over 20,000 subscribers to promote to!

    Thanks for starting this thread Dave and for all the interesting ideas expressed here.

    Lia
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    • Profile picture of the author bryce
      Originally Posted by laghabek View Post

      Hi Bryce,

      Me too - I spent lots of time on the product development and little time on promotion and list building. I am not in the IM niche but might consider it as soon as I have success in some of the areas of IM.
      I noticed that it is not easy to approach people with big lists.
      I have a small list and I'd like to do a JV as you mention with 200 other people with small (100 people) lists - that will be over 20,000 subscribers to promote to!

      Thanks for starting this thread Dave and for all the interesting ideas expressed here.

      Lia
      Hi there Lia,

      Thanks for stopping by! You are right, it isnt easy to get any response from those people who label themselves GURUS. Big list, small list, we are all here for the same reason. We all fundamentally desire to make a little (or a lot) of money online, and thats what some people tend to lose sight of.

      People with huge lists are often non-campassionate people who only have the dollar signs in their eyes, and this always makes it difficult for the genuine carers to crack into the market. We have to deal with the reputations that others cast, because they get to market generally before the little guy. This is not true of them all, but it id for the vast majority.

      The idea of pooling resources, and spending time developing a "zone" just for new people is a cool idea, and we will make this happen. Keep in touch and pop back when you can to keep on top of whats new. I am acting on this idea as we speak, and while Dave is busy with his job and other projects, I will do what I can to formulate something solid, reputable and valuable.

      Maybe PM me (or Dave) with details about what line you are in.

      Sincerely
      Bryce
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  • Profile picture of the author bryce
    Originally Posted by elaine drennan View Post

    Hi Guys!

    I found this thread this morning at work & I was delighted. It's taken me all night to find it again!

    I've just been building my list for the last month too - I only have about 40 suscribers but they're very precious to me! I'm determined to treat them well & provide them with great products. I already have a good few products lined up teaching the basic foundation skills needed to build a website and make money online.

    I have a simple one page website offering a free ebook, which I'm using to build my list and I'm in the process of creating another.

    I would love to do a list swap - assuming our products are compatible! I like the "genuine" feel of this thread...

    Please feel free to PM me!
    Hello Elaine,

    Glad you found the thread, and it may be worth bookmarking it, lol - just so you can find it again easily when you need to.

    I like your attitude that your subscribers are precious, this is the whole issue. Wanting to actually make a difference in their lives and not just extract money from their pockets, is the way to long term trust building and voluntary spending. 40 subscribers is very cool! I hope you are proud of your acheivement

    Building websites can be very daunting to new people, and although these days there are many software platforms for them to do it easily, I have found that building a site is only one aspect of it. You also need to understand the site, and what it does. In fact it is a good idea, to know what each component on the site does, and how they each work in unison with the others. This is usually the daunting part.

    The time it can take to build a functional site, can be extensive when considering bugs, error messages, and other nasties that may pop up. Even a single page website can present these issues, so your product range should make a lot of people happy.

    Just make sure (for credibility sake) that the "Make Money Online" product range you offer people has been tested by you or someone you know, so that you can truly verify the products worthiness. There is nothing worse in my opinion, than a product being promoted as the best thing to make money, when the seller does not use it themselves, or hasnt used it in the past.

    Elaine, pop back here as frequently as you can to see what is happening. A list swap is a cool idea, but we have (I think) much more on the planning agenda, and my conversations with Dave thus far, see us on the same level as far as the desire to make sure that "every" newbie who would like to participate, will receive the best value they can.

    I appreciate your feedback and your visit here. Thank you.

    Sincerely
    Bryce
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  • Profile picture of the author bryce
    Originally Posted by honestbizpro View Post

    One thing I like that dave said is that he will have re-curring income.

    I would say that building a list and focus on products and services that will continue to pay you is what every newbie and seasoned marketer should concentrate on at all times if they can.
    Totally agree, and what is important to achieve this is great value for the customer, every month! Even if its $5 or $10 a month, over a year multiplied by even 100 customers, starts to make a difference. The recurring income is also vital to cover costs and continue to develop and find new products that will fit the required supply.

    Thanks for the post honestbizpro
    Bryce
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  • Profile picture of the author shopbic
    Dave, I just found this thread. I like it. I am a newbie as well and can use all the help I can get. I also know about taking your money and nor really getting anything out of it. I am now following you on twitter also.
    Phil
    Shopbic
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    • Profile picture of the author bryce
      Originally Posted by shopbic View Post

      Dave, I just found this thread. I like it. I am a newbie as well and can use all the help I can get. I also know about taking your money and nor really getting anything out of it. I am now following you on twitter also.
      Phil
      Shopbic
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      Welcome Phil
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  • Profile picture of the author David Chamberlain
    Hi to everyone who just found this thread.

    One thing I will do is keep everyone informed of what we plan to do. I will also keep everyone informed of what I am personally doing for my business.

    I only started in February - so if I can make it a succes, anyone can.

    As Bryce has been saying - we have lots of exciting ideas, and when time permits we will act on them and create something for all the newbies out there!

    I'd like to talk to everyone more - so you can either email me or get in touch via skype. Anything I can help with, or information I can pass on - I will do my best to. Even if you just want to talk to someone about an idea you have, call or email me.

    I think all my details are on my profile!

    Thanks

    Dave
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    • Profile picture of the author bryce
      Hi everyone,

      Well it looks like we are good to go, so I was wondering.....

      As a newbie, or someone new to the world of making money online, what would be the top 3 things you feel would benefit you the most? In other words, take a look at where you are at, and where you want to be this time in 2 months, what would be the three most important things to get you there?

      If you can list them here, we can source the best we can for you!

      Ideas......

      Traffic, Product, Hosting Services, Domain Names, Advice, Ideas, Website Development, Blog, Themes, Graphics, etc etc etc.

      Sincerely
      Bryce
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  • Profile picture of the author littlejake
    First of all, enjoy reading this post... and Bryce you are dead on when you said...

    "This guru you promote is the one who sold me a product quoted as "the best thing ever", only to find that the information was more than 4 years old, and some of the sites listed in the product were no longer online. This is NOT someone I would ever do business with again. For him to even put his name to such a promotion is shameful."

    I for one stay away from most so called gurus or experts.
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    • Profile picture of the author bryce
      Originally Posted by littlejake View Post

      First of all, enjoy reading this post... and Bryce you are dead on when you said...

      "This guru you promote is the one who sold me a product quoted as "the best thing ever", only to find that the information was more than 4 years old, and some of the sites listed in the product were no longer online. This is NOT someone I would ever do business with again. For him to even put his name to such a promotion is shameful."

      I for one stay away from most so called gurus or experts.
      Right on littlejake!

      I usually take a quick look if they are offering something, but if I see anything like I witnessed in that example, that's it for me. To top that one off, I actually wrote a nce explanation why I was unimpressed with the product, and not only did I NOT receive a reply, the same product was promoted to me again through email, a couple of days later. I removed myself from the mailing list.

      Thanks for your post littlejake
      Bryce
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  • Profile picture of the author Alfred Shelver
    Hey guys who would have though that i would find alot of like mineded individuals i have made a good amount of money in relatively short time mainly PPC and ebay and have even started my first website and learned Kompozer basics. check it out its
    AffiliateKindergarten(dot)com its still very new and has alot of ' Lorem Ipsum ' that i still need to edit but it looks better than having nothing so yes .... i am still new enough to not have a list and dont really know how to get one yet but i am sure i will get there. Thanks Guys keep me updated
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    • Profile picture of the author bryce
      Originally Posted by nashelver View Post

      Hey guys who would have though that i would find alot of like mineded individuals i have made a good amount of money in relatively short time mainly PPC and ebay and have even started my first website and learned Kompozer basics. check it out its
      AffiliateKindergarten(dot)com its still very new and has alot of ' Lorem Ipsum ' that i still need to edit but it looks better than having nothing so yes .... i am still new enough to not have a list and dont really know how to get one yet but i am sure i will get there. Thanks Guys keep me updated
      Hi nashelver, welcome to the thread!

      WOW your template looks very cool, I love it. In fact so much that I have bookmarked the template site for use with this new project. You will get this looking really great I am sure. It is great to hear you have made some money online, and that after all, is what everybody wants to be able to do, without first spending next years mortgage payments. Well done!

      Keep popping in for a look or subscribe to this thread as I think you will see some massive input here, and some wonderful developments that could really help with your ongoing commitment to online earning.

      Regards
      Bryce
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  • Profile picture of the author David Chamberlain
    Congratulatione Elaine.

    It's such a good feeling when you connect with your subscribers, I always let my subscribers know I'm approachable. I like to talk to people and get to know their story. I may be able to learn something from them also.

    On tip, tell him not to be desperate. People who need to make money online tend to move from method to method - make sure you get him to focus on one area.

    A good way to make quick cash is to freelance, but if he has no specific skills to offer then I'd probably start with affiliate marketing - but don't spend a thing yet!

    If you need any help - get in touch.

    Take Care

    Dave

    Originally Posted by elaine drennan View Post

    Hi Bryce!

    I've been PMing with Dave but I just wanted to thank you for your post!
    Today a guy on my list responded to one of my aweber autoresponder messages, telling me how much he enjoyed my free book and looking for some advice - I was thrilled. He has lost his job & is desperate to make money online. I'm going to do everything I can to help him.

    Regarding my products, the free book I'm using to build my list is the one I personally used to teach me how to build my first website. I'm proud to offer it free because it really is excellent and perfect for complete beginners like I was.

    I have reviewed all the other products and I'm totally confident that they are high quality. None of them are about "get rich quick" schemes. They contain general information and advice which is practical and based on common sense.

    I'm very pleased to discover that in amongst all the sharks, there are some good fish still swimming around ! Look forward to working with you...

    Regards,

    Elaine
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    • Profile picture of the author bryce
      Originally Posted by dave_667 View Post

      Congratulatione Elaine.

      It's such a good feeling when you connect with your subscribers, I always let my subscribers know I'm approachable. I like to talk to people and get to know their story. I may be able to learn something from them also.

      On tip, tell him not to be desperate. People who need to make money online tend to move from method to method - make sure you get him to focus on one area.

      A good way to make quick cash is to freelance, but if he has no specific skills to offer then I'd probably start with affiliate marketing - but don't spend a thing yet!

      If you need any help - get in touch.

      Take Care

      Dave
      Well put Dave,

      I meant to say the same thing about desperation, but got side tracked when I wrote about integrity, hahahaha.

      Dave is exactly right about the "method to method" concept and I am speaking from experience. This type of desperation can cost an arm and a leg, and in the end, you are right back at square one, with NO money. It is better to be desperate and have a little money, and to be desperate and broke.

      In fact if anyone is contemplating joining something like affiliate marketing, etc - maybe throw the product into the conversation here before you do. We may have already paid for it, tried it, or heard of people that have reviewed it.

      Back soon
      Bryce
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  • Profile picture of the author bryce
    Originally Posted by elaine drennan View Post

    Hi Bryce!

    I've been PMing with Dave but I just wanted to thank you for your post!

    Today a guy on my list responded to one of my aweber autoresponder messages, telling me how much he enjoyed my free book and looking for some advice - I was thrilled. He has lost his job & is desperate to make money online. I'm going to do everything I can to help him.

    Regarding my products, the free book I'm using to build my list is the one I personally used to teach me how to build my first website. I'm proud to offer it free because it really is excellent and perfect for complete beginners like I was.

    I have reviewed all the other products and I'm totally confident that they are high quality. None of them are about "get rich quick" schemes. They contain general information and advice which is practical and based on common sense.

    I'm very pleased to discover that in amongst all the sharks, there are some good fish still swimming around ! Look forward to working with you...

    Regards,

    Elaine
    Hi Elaine,

    Great to hear about your customer!!! Thats so cool, and with your attitude and willingness to help, I am sure he and others as they come along will not forget you for what you are doing!

    I am glad you are chatting with Dave, I think he has decided to expadite the idea (LOL) because of the popularity of this thread, and I am pleased about that. I think it is such a great idea.

    I look forward to working with you also, and love what you said about your products, and the fish! You are right on with this... Integrity is the key to unlock longevity I think. Hmmmmm that was deep

    Talk soon
    Bryce
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  • Profile picture of the author Alfred Shelver
    What are you guys finding the best free methods i am still playing with PPc and some days i have a great $50 profit next day same campaigns and lots of clicks no sales and iam a $100 down
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  • Profile picture of the author David Chamberlain
    Hi Nashelver.

    PPC is definitely a skill to learn - you can really lose a lot of money if you don't know what your doing!

    For affiliate marketing, have you tried building review sites and driving traffic to them through article marketing etc?

    If so and you need help with traffic generation, I can help you with that, give you some tips!

    just let me know

    Regards

    Dave
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    • Profile picture of the author Alfred Shelver
      Originally Posted by dave_667 View Post

      Hi Nashelver.


      For affiliate marketing, have you tried building review sites and driving traffic to them through article marketing etc?



      Regards

      Dave
      Its is definately what i am looking to do have started the site affiliatekindergarten(dot) com and written a few articles but dont wanna waste my time submitting them and not being able to catch a list.

      Also have any of you guys found a product on clickbank that actually offers near to what the sales page promises, its difficult to promote a product i dont believe in.

      Well seems you newbies are doing great i have also learned a huge amount in these last few months and believe that there is still huge money to be made on the net and who knows we could be the gurus with integrity in the next few years
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      • Profile picture of the author bryce
        Originally Posted by nashelver View Post

        Its is definately what i am looking to do have started the site affiliatekindergarten(dot) com and written a few articles but dont wanna waste my time submitting them and not being able to catch a list.

        Also have any of you guys found a product on clickbank that actually offers near to what the sales page promises, its difficult to promote a product i dont believe in.

        Well seems you newbies are doing great i have also learned a huge amount in these last few months and believe that there is still huge money to be made on the net and who knows we could be the gurus with integrity in the next few years

        Hi Nash and welcome to the thread!

        If you are wanting to promote something that is what it says it is, you will definately find some upcoming products of value. I know Dave is working on a major product range of information dealing with Traffic Generation, etc. In the meantime, if you want to check out the "Work At Home eCyclopedia, you are more than welcome. You can click on the link in my sig, and read the sales page and then if you are interested I will happily send you a sample copy of the book and you can make up your own mind as to the integrity of the product.

        The product is availble through clickbank.

        In regards to your writing articles for your "afiliatekindergarten" website, this is never a waste of time. Writing the articles adds unique content, and this )if promoted in the right manner) is what will bring in the targeted readers, who can then sign up to your capture system. It (the content) is also what builds up your site credibility, adding value to your site as a peice of virtual real-estate, so this is alway a "plan B" of sorts. You have a great domain name, and a niche that is very popular online.

        Just some thoughts....

        Regards
        Bryce
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        • Profile picture of the author bryce
          Hi everyone,

          Apologies in the delay to get another post up, but I have just relocated back home to New Zealand. Arrived here on Saturday and it took me a day or so to adjust, and then of course yesterday was Mothers Day, so like any good son, lol, I spent some time there. This was made more important for me, as My mums mum passed away a week ago and due to circumstances I could not control, I could not get back to the funeral.

          I am back home now though after 13 years abroad, and raring to get things going asap.

          I hope everybody has had a great weekend, and look forward to seeing what eventuates here in the next few days.

          Cya Soon
          Bryce
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          • Profile picture of the author elaine drennan
            Bryce,

            SORRY, I misread your post.

            I'm sure your Mum is delighted to have your support.

            Regards,

            Elaine.
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            • Profile picture of the author bryce
              Originally Posted by elaine drennan View Post

              Bryce,

              SORRY, I misread your post.

              I'm sure your Mum is delighted to have your support.

              Regards,

              Elaine.
              Hey thats no prob al all Elaine

              Yeah mum is always happy to have her "boy" home, lol

              Thanks again
              Bryce
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    • Profile picture of the author claire101
      Hi Everyone - Excellent thread
      It's funny how there are so many 'Guru's' out there hey?? I was very sucked in to the whole 'buy my shit' sales copy. Although I am not alone in that dept
      Everything you need is right here within the forum, just search for it and you will come accross some WF Gold
      Great to hear how you are all progressing
      To Our Success People
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      • Profile picture of the author Karen Connell
        Originally Posted by claire101 View Post

        Hi Everyone - Excellent thread
        It's funny how there are so many 'Guru's' out there hey?? I was very sucked in to the whole 'buy my shit' sales copy. Although I am not alone in that dept
        Everything you need is right here within the forum, just search for it and you will come accross some WF Gold
        Great to hear how you are all progressing
        To Our Success People
        I must admit to buying one or two(!) guides to IM.

        Have since realised that there is no substitute for personal recommendations AND learning to write a sales page like the 'guru' chaps.

        This thread is a wealth of information to a 'technically challenged' wannabe like me.

        thanks to everyone.

        Karen
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        • Profile picture of the author bryce
          Originally Posted by Bigpicture View Post

          Thanks for subscribing, Bryce. I can wait 'til tomorrow for your comments, go to sleep . Wish you a good night.
          No problem at all. I am a big fan (or used to be) of the mp3 learning technique, and will take a good look around when I get some time later on. The site looks really cool tho, and the subscription system worked fine. You have done a great job with this

          Originally Posted by claire101 View Post

          Hi Everyone - Excellent thread
          It's funny how there are so many 'Guru's' out there hey?? I was very sucked in to the whole 'buy my shit' sales copy. Although I am not alone in that dept
          Everything you need is right here within the forum, just search for it and you will come accross some WF Gold
          Great to hear how you are all progressing
          To Our Success People
          Hahaha "guru" - makes me laugh I agree about most things we need being on the forum, but I also know that without the tenacity, drive and passion to make something happen, all the information in the world, is useless. Even an understanding that 99% of the things we need, are going to cost money, (large or small) does a lot to reduce the wasted time, searching for "free" products and resources.

          To our success indeed

          Originally Posted by Dhrousha View Post

          I must admit to buying one or two(!) guides to IM.

          Have since realised that there is no substitute for personal recommendations AND learning to write a sales page like the 'guru' chaps.

          This thread is a wealth of information to a 'technically challenged' wannabe like me.

          thanks to everyone.

          Karen
          Hi there Karen,

          Boy - if you have learned the art of creating a "guru" sales page, thats really cool! I dabbled with it for a long time initially, but could never really believe in the approach of most of them.

          I have this simple approach of "telling it like it is" in most circumstances, so that doesnt always fit into the "guru" style.

          I am so glad you are finding the information in this thread helpful.
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          • Profile picture of the author Karen Connell
            Hi Bryce,

            I'm not saying that I CAN write a 'guru' sales page - just that I have learned that it is
            - important to learn how to - write a good sales page!

            My approach would be similar to yours i.e. tell it like it is...

            Regards

            Karen
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  • Profile picture of the author Alfred Shelver
    where can i find out about the technical part about building a list ? elaine your product seems great i dont have a list at all yet so i would not be able to be much of an asset just yet.
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  • Profile picture of the author bryce
    Originally Posted by elaine drennan View Post

    Hi Guys!

    I think we have ourselves a little "mini-forum" already! Really glad to be part of it...

    Hi Elaine, I tend to agree!
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  • Profile picture of the author elaine drennan
    Bryce,

    I'm sorry to hear about your Mother. It would have been a very tough homecoming for you.

    Regards,

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    • Profile picture of the author bryce
      Originally Posted by elaine drennan View Post

      Bryce,

      I'm sorry to hear about your Mother. It would have been a very tough homecoming for you.

      Regards,

      Elaine
      Hello Elaine,

      Thankyou for your kindness. My mother is fine (well as can be expected), my grandmother passed away. She was 92 so I guess she had a great life, she was a wonderful lady.

      I am pleased to be close to mum now, and hopefully she knows she can lean on me if and when she needs to. My family are a tough bunch of individuals though, lol.

      Thanks again I appreciate it very much

      Bryce
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  • Profile picture of the author bryce
    Originally Posted by elaine drennan View Post

    Nashelver!

    You were asking about building a list. This is REALLY important, even if you choose affiliate marketing. Why? Well, the clue can be found in the title - it's called affiliate MARKETING.

    Alot of affiliate programs now give away a free website when you sign up, stocked full with high quality products. Great! But don't forget that's only HALF of the story - the easy half. It's the marketing of your site that takes the hard work.

    The days of selling "cold" to a first-time visitor to your site are now gone. That's why you need a List - people you have built a relationship with. One way of doing this is joining the various forums related to your niche. Start contributing, ask questions, email members etc.

    Then create a very simple, short, FREE report on the same subject as your niche. Inside your report you put some links to your website. Post a thread on the forums telling of your free report. Email the new contacts you have made about your report. Most people are only too happy to get something of quality that they can use for free. You will need a squeeze page/one page website with an opt-in form where you capture names and email addresses - this is where your List comes from!

    I hope this is some help to you...

    Regards,

    Elaine
    This is a great peice of advice Elaine, and a good plan to follow. I hope Nash is able to get some results from this!

    Bryce
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    • Profile picture of the author jetinc
      Originally Posted by bryce View Post

      This is a great peice of advice Elaine, and a good plan to follow. I hope Nash is able to get some results from this!

      Bryce
      I think your advice is very useful. As a newbie we want some quick fix to building a list and utilizing it properly. But there really is no quick fix, it takes time and forums like this help us understand this better.
      Thanks,
      jetinc
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      • Profile picture of the author elaine drennan
        Originally Posted by jetinc View Post

        I think your advice is very useful. As a newbie we want some quick fix to building a list and utilizing it properly. But there really is no quick fix, it takes time and forums like this help us understand this better.
        Hi Jetinc!

        Yes! Slightly changing your thinking, to concentrate on building a list will probably be the one defining element that will separate you from the majority of people who do NOT make money online.

        I know it's hard to be patient, we all want to earn some money NOW! But there is a process to follow in this business and we must follow it...

        Wishing you every success!!

        Elaine
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Horgan
    Hi everyone,

    First to Bryce, sorry to hear about your grandmother. I know what it's like as all my grandparents are gone, and only my mother is still with us, and she's 70, but threatening to live forever. LOL.
    Elaine - thanks for a great post about marketing and list building.
    I am new to this as well, and I set up my second website on Saturday. I am using PLR to sell ebooks, but I am also offering free reports. I am now going to write some articles for my new site.
    From my first site, I have a list of 2 people, so I am hoping to build on that. I am also still looking forward to making my first sale.
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    • Profile picture of the author bryce
      Originally Posted by Mike Horgan View Post

      Hi everyone,

      First to Bryce, sorry to hear about your grandmother. I know what it's like as all my grandparents are gone, and only my mother is still with us, and she's 70, but threatening to live forever. LOL.
      Elaine - thanks for a great post about marketing and list building.
      I am new to this as well, and I set up my second website on Saturday. I am using PLR to sell ebooks, but I am also offering free reports. I am now going to write some articles for my new site.
      From my first site, I have a list of 2 people, so I am hoping to build on that. I am also still looking forward to making my first sale.
      Hello Mike,

      Thankyou for your kindness! I have one grandparent remaining with us now, and my mum is still going strong as well. It is never nice to lose people we love, and although we all know it comes our way at some point, it is something I never get used to.

      Welcome to the thread and congrats on the 2nd site my friend. 2 people on a list is better than nobody on your list, and it is from small beginnings big things are realised. We will help all we can, and I am sure you will find some great information in coming days, as has already been found in Elaines post and others as well.

      Thanks again Mike, keep in touch
      Bryce
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  • Profile picture of the author Anomaly1974
    This thread should be turned into a sticky LOL I have this thread and a couple of other sites bookmarked. Now, how about something for someone with a quality product but no list? I cannot afford to give it away but there are commissions and it is a quality product. The last book I did was actually reviewed by a fairly well known site but unfortunately, nothing was ever done with that site to keep it alive and it fell by the wayside. If you have room for contributors and/or writers, I would love to offer my services as well.

    With thanks,

    Ward Tipton
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    • Profile picture of the author bryce
      Originally Posted by Anomaly1974 View Post

      This thread should be turned into a sticky LOL I have this thread and a couple of other sites bookmarked. Now, how about something for someone with a quality product but no list? I cannot afford to give it away but there are commissions and it is a quality product. The last book I did was actually reviewed by a fairly well known site but unfortunately, nothing was ever done with that site to keep it alive and it fell by the wayside. If you have room for contributors and/or writers, I would love to offer my services as well.

      With thanks,

      Ward Tipton
      aka Anomaly
      Hello Ward and welcome to the thread!

      I agree about the sticky thing, lol - maybe when we have a few more entries and the traffic starts to come, haha. Your product sounds interesting, and I would love to take a look. Over the next few days we will be starting on setting up the basic framework for the Newbie Lounge, and this is where we can utilise and help with your products.

      Is your product suitable for newbies?

      Anyway keep coming back and if you have any suggestions as to content or contribution that you think you can offer, dont hesitate to PM me, or contact Dave. You are most welcome.
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    • Profile picture of the author cima
      As I'm in the Forex Niche with my forex blog review, we (my 114 subscribers list and I lol) can't get involved in your great project. Unfortunately, i really support what you're doing and we should be trying to do that oftener as it is more than tough to find partners when you're beginning ! Don't worry, we'll all succeed one day !

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    • Profile picture of the author DennisFMaloney
      Man i am glad i stop by great information being posted in here.I have also started growing my list using traffic exchanges with a landing page with free plr for their email. Doing good with it looking to expand to forums, but not till i get my post up.

      Thanks for the info.
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    • Profile picture of the author jondavidson
      It's Almost Monday Here!...Kick itin the arse this week...LOL
      Got some rest, got my deck stained (had to do some manual labor)...hehehe.

      Let everyone know here what needs to be done to make it happen!

      C'mon NNbies...uh Novices...
      Get with it and come on board to NN.
      Share what you have and let everyone
      help you get to the top.( it really works!)
      Pedal to the Metal!!! (colors again)

      Yes... we do have the motivation and the inspiration
      on this end.... I for one can't get enough! This has been the
      best thread ever!

      Later.
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      • Profile picture of the author bryce
        Originally Posted by jondavidson View Post

        It's Almost Monday Here!...Kick itin the arse this week...LOL
        Got some rest, got my deck stained (had to do some manual labor)...hehehe.

        Let everyone know here what needs to be done to make it happen!

        C'mon NNbies...uh Novices...
        Get with it and come on board to NN.
        Share what you have and let everyone
        help you get to the top.( it really works!)
        Pedal to the Metal!!! (colors again)

        Yes... we do have the motivation and the inspiration
        on this end.... I for one can't get enough! This has been the
        best thread ever!

        Later.
        Hi Jon,

        Glad you got that deck done, that means the weather must be pretty good! Yep I think the momentum is building at NN, maybe need a few more members there to kick some butt - but those that are there now are getting stuck into a couple of projects, and also learning heaps!

        Anyone who is new to this industry - should head over there to check it out
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  • Profile picture of the author elaine drennan
    Hi Ward!

    Would you consider giving away the first few pages/1st chapter as a taster - get them hooked!

    Or you could do a short report based on the same subject matter...and then offer them the book later.

    Also think about maybe breaking the book into parts and selling it as a sequel - you can charge more for it that way.

    Or you could record the book and sell it as DVDs...

    The possibilities are endless!!

    Wishing you every success,

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    • Profile picture of the author bryce
      Originally Posted by elaine drennan View Post

      Hi Ward!

      Would you consider giving away the first few pages/1st chapter as a taster - get them hooked!

      Or you could do a short report based on the same subject matter...and then offer them the book later.

      Also think about maybe breaking the book into parts and selling it as a sequel - you can charge more for it that way.

      Or you could record the book and sell it as DVDs...

      The possibilities are endless!!

      Wishing you every success,

      Elaine

      Another great reply Elaine, and one that should generate some action for Ward. Everybody should take a look at the suggestions here, as these options apply to almost any IM product, and most other product niches.

      Well done

      Bryce
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    • Profile picture of the author zigstonk
      One of the best threads I've seen on WF. Many thanks to originator and all others who've contributed. I've subscribed, and will hope for many more updates.
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  • Profile picture of the author Anomaly1974
    I would certainly be willing to give away some sample chapters. I do not even have an autoresponder at the moment, but giving away two or three chapters would not be a problem at all.

    As for recording? I am the proverbial hillbilly when I talk. With my written words, I could convince people to do things that I would never talk about in public but as soon as I open my mouth people automatically think stupid. One of the things I want to do is actually begin a series on youtube as The Revolutionary Redneck (Since all of the hillbilly monikers I could think of were taken) but to try to capitalize on that. For instructional and informational materials, a video or my voice would not be advisable. Additionally, many of the common grammatical and spelling errors would not be discernible to many people no matter what accent the words were spoken with.

    If you do want more information or want to work something out, just let me know what you need please!

    With thanks,

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    • Profile picture of the author bryce
      Originally Posted by Anomaly1974 View Post

      I would certainly be willing to give away some sample chapters. I do not even have an autoresponder at the moment, but giving away two or three chapters would not be a problem at all.

      As for recording? I am the proverbial hillbilly when I talk. With my written words, I could convince people to do things that I would never talk about in public but as soon as I open my mouth people automatically think stupid. One of the things I want to do is actually begin a series on youtube as The Revolutionary Redneck (Since all of the hillbilly monikers I could think of were taken) but to try to capitalize on that. For instructional and informational materials, a video or my voice would not be advisable. Additionally, many of the common grammatical and spelling errors would not be discernible to many people no matter what accent the words were spoken with.

      If you do want more information or want to work something out, just let me know what you need please!

      With thanks,

      Ward
      Ward, there are other options for turning your work into recordable products. Have you considered someone to vocalise the book for you!? This is something relatively easy to orgabise. In fact a freind of mine in England wrote a series of childrens books and I suggested to him that they would be a great set of recorded books. He too did not like his speaking voice, and I organised that for him. The project was a success.

      If you know someone who has a great speaking voice and the right software to record, it may be worth compiling them this way, even as an alternative.

      Regards
      Bryce
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    • Profile picture of the author elaine drennan
      Originally Posted by Anomaly1974 View Post

      I would certainly be willing to give away some sample chapters. I do not even have an autoresponder at the moment, but giving away two or three chapters would not be a problem at all.

      If you do want more information or want to work something out, just let me know what you need please!
      Hi Wade!

      What niche is your book in, ie what is about & what market are you aiming it at?

      If you would like to send me a Private Message, I'll help you any way I can.

      Regards,

      Elaine
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  • Profile picture of the author Alfred Shelver
    Does anyone have know where i can find step by step detail of the techical parts of list building how to link and autresponder to my webpage how to setup a squeeze page and exactly what a squeeze page is etc... i know this is my next step but want to do it properly and dont know where to begin
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    • Profile picture of the author bryce
      Originally Posted by nashelver View Post

      Does anyone have know where i can find step by step detail of the techical parts of list building how to link and autresponder to my webpage how to setup a squeeze page and exactly what a squeeze page is etc... i know this is my next step but want to do it properly and dont know where to begin
      Hi Nash,

      Lets deal with the autoresponder first because it is important to have this set up, or at least, ready to set up for your squeeze page. What service are you using for your autoresponder? There is Aweber and GetResponse, and there are one or two others, but these seem to be the main two, with Aweber being the most widely used I think.

      I do have details of a third, that is offering a free trial account so if you have not got an account with anyone yet, and you would like to see the details for this trial account, let me know and I will forward the details.

      A squeeze page is a "capture" page that is usually a single page with a simple form on it for your visitors to sign up for a product, package or newsletter. It may be that you have a brief on the product or service or maybe very little information at all, but this is generally what a squeeze page is. You would install the HTML code (easy copy & paste) into the page which would generate the form produced by your autoresponder account. Then when a visitor completed the form details and clicked on submit, their information would be stored in your autoresponder account, ready for you to communicate with.

      Regards
      Bryce
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    • Profile picture of the author elaine drennan
      Originally Posted by nashelver View Post

      Does anyone have know where i can find step by step detail of the techical parts of list building how to link and autresponder to my webpage how to setup a squeeze page and exactly what a squeeze page is etc... i know this is my next step but want to do it properly and dont know where to begin
      Hi Nash!

      It's hard to get this all straight in your head when you start, isn't it - I've been there!

      In a nutshell the steps are:

      • Buy a domain name/website address - I bought mine from 123 Reg.
      • Build a squeeze page using a Web Editor. I used Kompozer which is free.
      • Set up an account with aweber/Get Response. I use aweber and find them great (I'm not an affiliate!). I think Get Response might be a bit less user friendly.
      • Create an opt-in form with aweber and add it to your squeeze page.
      • Compose autoresponder messages with aweber which go out to your list on a regular basis so you can build up a relationship with them.
      Regarding building a squeeze page/one page website, I did this myself and I promise you I was not a techie whizz-kid by any means! I followed the step-by-step instructions in "Create Your First Website by 3:45 This Afternoon". This is not a sales pitch, because the book is free - there is a link to it below if you are interested.

      Keep in touch - we've all been where you are now!
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      • Profile picture of the author Karen Connell
        Hi All,

        So much great information in one thread! Thank you all...

        I have spent a lot of time reading all I can (now suffering Information Overload). I have now begun to unsubscribe from the lists that email me too often.

        I have a great niche idea (i think...) concerned with the breeding side of dogs - stuff I know about! I have written my ebook and a short report plus a load of articles. I have also collected a few giveaways in the dog market.

        However, I am a complete novice when it comes to websites.

        Kind people try to give me advice but lose me when they start talking in initials - php,ftp etc.

        Can anyone point me in the direction of 'idiot proof' - easy language instructions for setting up a website. I really want to learn how to do this myself rather than outsource.

        As a 'financially challenged' as well as 'technically challenged' person I would really appreciate any advice.

        Thanks

        Karen

        p.s. Dave -I'm originally from Blackburn but lived in Preston for 2 years before coming to Ireland. C'mon the Rovers!!!
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        • Profile picture of the author jondavidson
          Originally Posted by Dhrousha View Post

          Hi All,

          So much great information in one thread! Thank you all...

          I have spent a lot of time reading all I can (now suffering Information Overload). I have now begun to unsubscribe from the lists that email me too often.

          I have a great niche idea (i think...) concerned with the breeding side of dogs - stuff I know about! I have written my ebook and a short report plus a load of articles. I have also collected a few giveaways in the dog market.

          However, I am a complete novice when it comes to websites.

          Kind people try to give me advice but lose me when they start talking in initials - php,ftp etc.

          Can anyone point me in the direction of 'idiot proof' - easy language instructions for setting up a website. I really want to learn how to do this myself rather than outsource.

          As a 'financially challenged' as well as 'technically challenged' person I would really appreciate any advice.

          Thanks

          Karen

          p.s. Dave -I'm originally from Blackburn but lived in Preston for 2 years before coming to Ireland. C'mon the Rovers!!!
          Hi Karen,

          Sounds like you have a great plan ahead!

          There are several methods to setting up a site and depending on how involved (graphics etc) you want to get, how many pages etc. But if you want to set up something like a squeeze page or a landing page for your product/service I might recommend any of the following:

          Blogger.com Very easy to set up and you can embed videos,pics, graphics etc.


          Squidoo.com This has a bit more versatility and is also easy to set up and can do the same as above.
          Wordpress.com A lot of people use this one.



          All three of these are free tools to create a page to drive your traffic to.

          Use all three.
          Good luck and maybe someone else here on the thread has others for you to try but those three is what I would recommend to start.

          Have you uploaded your e-book or published your articles to anywhere yet or is this why you want the site?

          Keep us posted.

          Until Later...
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          • Profile picture of the author Karen Connell
            Hi Jon,

            Thanks for that. I already have Squidoo, Wordpress and Blogger for other non-sales related stuff.

            For my own 'product' I want to set up a proper website - I want to appear as if I know what I'm doing...LOL.

            I want to have a home page with site map that links to all other pages, a landing page to offer my freebie, a blog to answer any queries (would that work?), pages for articles etc.

            I haven't submitted any articles for this yet because I want to tie everything together. The only thing I have is my domain name (from GoDaddy).

            Where would be the best place to host my website? What should I pay?

            Do I go for the basic offering or go for the 'all bells and whistles' option for hosting?

            Thanks in advance

            Karen

            Backlinking Expert,

            I am hoping to follow in your footsteps - i.e. make money.
            How do I find a good source to explain (again in 'idiot proof' terms) about backlinking.
            Also, can you tell me what to do to stop paypal limiting an account - I live in hope! LOL

            Thanks

            Karen
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            • Profile picture of the author jondavidson
              Originally Posted by Dhrousha View Post

              Hi Jon,

              Thanks for that. I already have Squidoo, Wordpress and Blogger for other non-sales related stuff.

              For my own 'product' I want to set up a proper website - I want to appear as if I know what I'm doing...LOL.

              I want to have a home page with site map that links to all other pages, a landing page to offer my freebie, a blog to answer any queries (would that work?), pages for articles etc.

              I haven't submitted any articles for this yet because I want to tie everything together. The only thing I have is my domain name (from GoDaddy).

              Where would be the best place to host my website? What should I pay?

              Do I go for the basic offering or go for the 'all bells and whistles' option for hosting?

              Thanks in advance

              Karen

              Backlinking Expert,

              I am hoping to follow in your footsteps - i.e. make money.
              How do I find a good source to explain (again in 'idiot proof' terms) about backlinking.
              Also, can you tell me what to do to stop paypal limiting an account - I live in hope! LOL

              Thanks

              Karen
              Hi Karen,

              There are some good replies here and I would like to add just one more..
              Yahoo has a sitebuilder you can download for free HERE however you will need to host through them.
              I had built a site years ago with them and the site was fairly easy to navigate around in and I became quite proficient at it but... I think you will find the alternatives you are looking for by doing what you're doing and keep asking questions here on Warrior.

              Navigate around through the site and I'm sure you will find out what the cost is...sometimes they have start up deals for a reasonable cost for the first couple of months then full price for the next year and I'm not sure if they lock you in on a contract type of thing or not...
              Hope this helps.

              Until next time...
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                • Profile picture of the author bryce
                  Originally Posted by Dhrousha View Post

                  Hi Bryce,

                  I'm not saying that I CAN write a 'guru' sales page - just that I have learned that it is
                  - important to learn how to - write a good sales page!

                  My approach would be similar to yours i.e. tell it like it is...

                  Regards

                  Karen
                  Hahaha yeah me too! I have learned tho that some people can take offense to the "tell it like it is theory" - but I also learned that most of those people are the ones that have something to lose by what I am saying. Funny that :p


                  Originally Posted by Dhrousha View Post

                  Hi Elaine,

                  Can you please post the link the the ebook - sounds like something I could do with...:confused:

                  Thanks

                  Karen
                  If Elaine doesnt leave a link, I think I have the product info somewhere. I will hunt it out if I can

                  Originally Posted by Bigpicture View Post

                  Hey, Bryce, Thanks for your encouraging feedback.
                  You are very very welcome my friend.
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            • Profile picture of the author Karen Connell
              Anyone have any freebies that explain (in 'idiot proof' terms!) about backlinking?

              This is another thing I want to learn about but there is so much stuff, it's hard to see the wood from the trees...

              So if anyone could recommend a report I would be very grateful.

              Thanks Again

              Karen
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              • Profile picture of the author jondavidson
                Originally Posted by Dhrousha View Post

                Anyone have any freebies that explain (in 'idiot proof' terms!) about backlinking?

                This is another thing I want to learn about but there is so much stuff, it's hard to see the wood from the trees...

                So if anyone could recommend a report I would be very grateful.

                Thanks Again

                Karen
                Hi Karen,
                >>> Try this first <<< and >>> This <<<
                You can get good info from
                the Ezine home page by doing a search
                on the keyword you're looking for.

                Good Luck.

                Until Next Time.
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      • Profile picture of the author Karen Connell
        Originally Posted by elaine drennan View Post

        Hi Nash!

        It's hard to get this all straight in your head when you start, isn't it - I've been there!

        In a nutshell the steps are:

        • Buy a domain name/website address - I bought mine from 123 Reg.
        • Build a squeeze page using a Web Editor. I used Kompozer which is free.
        • Set up an account with aweber/Get Response. I use aweber and find them great (I'm not an affiliate!). I think Get Response might be a bit less user friendly.
        • Create an opt-in form with aweber and add it to your squeeze page.
        • Compose autoresponder messages with aweber which go out to your list on a regular basis so you can build up a relationship with them.
        Regarding building a squeeze page/one page website, I did this myself and I promise you I was not a techie whizz-kid by any means! I followed the step-by-step instructions in "Create Your First Website by 3:45 This Afternoon". This is not a sales pitch, because the book is free - there is a link to it below if you are interested.

        Keep in touch - we've all been where you are now!

        Hi Elaine,

        Can you please post the link the the ebook - sounds like something I could do with...:confused:

        Thanks

        Karen
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  • Profile picture of the author Alfred Shelver
    Thanks guys, i have a domain and am hosted by hostmonster currently. where are the names sent after people have signed up does aweber automatically when i send autoresponse put peoples first names in like i often get? do they keep the database of email adresses i am just trying to get the picture in my head what is done by my host Cpanel amd what is done by aweber does aweber have tutorials or is there any tutorial you know of.

    elaine i am glad to be the first person to give you a thanks.

    I really think there is a market for very newbies that is still not tapped and one can sell ebook for $2-$5that really step by step of the very basics also review products so no money is wasted on over promised sales pages
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    • Profile picture of the author David Chamberlain
      Originally Posted by nashelver View Post

      Thanks guys, i have a domain and am hosted by hostmonster currently. where are the names sent after people have signed up does aweber automatically when i send autoresponse put peoples first names in like i often get? do they keep the database of email adresses i am just trying to get the picture in my head what is done by my host Cpanel amd what is done by aweber does aweber have tutorials or is there any tutorial you know of.

      elaine i am glad to be the first person to give you a thanks.

      I really think there is a market for very newbies that is still not tapped and one can sell ebook for $2-$5that really step by step of the very basics also review products so no money is wasted on over promised sales pages
      Hi Nashelver

      Aweber is a standalone autoresponder, I use Getresponse, and I presume it is a similar set-up.

      basically, they mange the list, you load up your autoresponder messages and you can also send one-of 'broadcasts'.

      People register their name and email address and when you sned an email you may put [First name], Read this. It picks up the name of your subscriber.

      I know GetResponse has video tutorials, and I have a good delivery rate, but do your research and choose what you feel best. Make sure you sign up through another Newbies affiliate link if you do. I won't cost you anymore, but you are helping someone, and they will return the favour in the future!

      Take care

      Dave
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    • Profile picture of the author elaine drennan
      Originally Posted by nashelver View Post

      Thanks guys, i have a domain and am hosted by hostmonster currently. where are the names sent after people have signed up does aweber automatically when i send autoresponse put peoples first names in like i often get? do they keep the database of email adresses i am just trying to get the picture in my head what is done by my host Cpanel amd what is done by aweber does aweber have tutorials or is there any tutorial you know of.
      Hi Nash!

      Thanks for the thanks!!

      The opt-in form people type their name and email address into is provided by aweber - aweber give you code that you copy and paste into the code relating to your web page and the opt-in form appears on the web page.

      When someone types in their details they get an email asking them to verify their request and once they have done that their name is transferred onto your list at aweber. You set up messages to go out automatically to the people on that list. One straightaway giving a link to where they can download the free product and then every few days after that. And yes, you can fix it so each message is personalised.

      Aweber do have tutorials and the have a good support system too.

      Hope this helps...
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    I too just bookmarked this thread, thanks Dave some great tips here.
    Cheers
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  • Profile picture of the author IM Biz System
    I just joined Warrior Forum and glad that have found this thread.

    Dave and Elaine thanks for the many Great Tips.

    Working hard on building my list as well and looking forward to sharing more once I got my squeeze page up.

    Looking forward to be part of this program.
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    • Profile picture of the author elaine drennan
      Originally Posted by IM Biz System View Post


      Dave and Elaine thanks for the many Great Tips.

      Working hard on building my list as well and looking forward to sharing more once I got my squeeze page up.

      Looking forward to be part of this program.
      Hi IM Biz System (what's your name?!)

      Yes, this IS a nice little corner of the Warrior Forum, isn't it!

      Good luck with your list building and your squeeze page

      Regards,

      Elaine
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      • Profile picture of the author paulied
        Hi everyone. Great thread here. Getting lots of great info. I'm definitely a newbie. Been working hard for a few months now. Made 0 so far, but learning alot (I think). I have a website (I work with vianet), but I have no list yet. I still need to work on the site more, but, I'm actually thinking of trying mlmleadsystempro. I promise you I don't work with them yet. Just looking for feedback. I just feel overwhelmed at times cause there's so many different places to participate in (myspace, facebook, you tube,wordpress. I just got a list of 7 forum sites, and that's where I found warrior. etc., etc., etc.) that my head is spinning. I work hours a day on this, and there's still not enough time. I'm not in any rush, and I'm not giving up. This is just the first chance I've had to speak to other newbies. (Deep Breath). Now I feel better. Look forward to learning from you guys. Have a great day.
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        • Profile picture of the author elaine drennan
          Originally Posted by paulied View Post

          I just feel overwhelmed at times cause there's so many different places to participate in (myspace, facebook, you tube,wordpress. I just got a list of 7 forum sites, and that's where I found warrior. etc., etc., etc.) that my head is spinning. I work hours a day on this, and there's still not enough time. I'm not in any rush, and I'm not giving up. This is just the first chance I've had to speak to other newbies. (Deep Breath). Now I feel better. Look forward to learning from you guys. Have a great day.
          Hi Paulied!

          I agree! Information Overload is a big problem. We all think "I should know this" and "I should know that". We don't NEED to know EVERYTHING to start with. There will always be people ahead of us, and others who are behind. In the end "the race is only with yourself".

          Try to pick ONE thing every day that you want to achieve and see it through to completion. Anything more will then be a bonus!

          Good luck!!

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        • Profile picture of the author David Chamberlain
          Originally Posted by paulied View Post

          Hi everyone. Great thread here. Getting lots of great info. I'm definitely a newbie. Been working hard for a few months now. Made 0 so far, but learning alot (I think). I have a website (I work with vianet), but I have no list yet. I still need to work on the site more, but, I'm actually thinking of trying mlmleadsystempro. I promise you I don't work with them yet. Just looking for feedback. I just feel overwhelmed at times cause there's so many different places to participate in (myspace, facebook, you tube,wordpress. I just got a list of 7 forum sites, and that's where I found warrior. etc., etc., etc.) that my head is spinning. I work hours a day on this, and there's still not enough time. I'm not in any rush, and I'm not giving up. This is just the first chance I've had to speak to other newbies. (Deep Breath). Now I feel better. Look forward to learning from you guys. Have a great day.
          Hi Paulied

          Information overlaod is inevitable. It's how you deal with it that will define the atart of your carreer!

          I think about it as like trying to get off a desert island. It's hard to get past the breaking waves, and youwill probably get thrown back onto the shore a few times, battered and brusied, but build a stronger raft and try again. Once you get past this, it will become easier!

          Does that make sense?

          A good place to start building your list is ebay. Sell ebooks for pennies, and take them to your opt-in page after payment, then set your first message on your autoresponder to be the download link.

          You can also try to upsell a collection of books!

          Thanks

          Dave
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  • Profile picture of the author Alfred Shelver
    Paulied

    Hi well if it helps you feel how everyone else does, i think the only solution is to take it one step at a time ... have one product one website that you advertise and do something different for every day just so you actually start doing and not just learning ... and instead of looking for money in the beginning think of traffic as your final goal because if you can generate traffic to a non profitable site if you find a profitable site that traffic will mean money.

    Plus what helps me when i get very frustrated is thinking the million dollar IM people were not born with this knowledge and had to learn just like you and i so why not start now.

    some WF member had a quote in theis signature that i loved. " the best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago , the second best time is now."
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  • Profile picture of the author Alfred Shelver
    Hi i found a site that i think all newbies should look at has alot of good free advice and videos to get you started ... be careful of some of the sells that are being done through the site but in general a very good free website for affiliate marketing its affilorama.com it has alot of good reviews in the Forum and i found it really good.

    Thanks

    Alfred
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  • Profile picture of the author fripmix
    Dave,

    Just added my thanks for starting this thread.

    I have not read all the posts in it yet but am looking forward to catching up on what's been shared (and I've subscribed to keep up).

    This idea may already have been offered in the posts I haven't read yet, but as far as doing jv with each other's lists, if list totals vary, it can still work. Just have everyone email the same number of people on their list. So if someone has 500 and someone only has 300, they can still partner, but the one with 500 would only send to 300 off their list.

    I really like the idea of a one-stop shop/membership site for newbies.

    Crystal
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    • Profile picture of the author elaine drennan
      Originally Posted by fripmix View Post

      This idea may already have been offered in the posts I haven't read yet, but as far as doing jv with each other's lists, if list totals vary, it can still work. Just have everyone email the same number of people on their list. So if someone has 500 and someone only has 300, they can still partner, but the one with 500 would only send to 300 off their list.
      Crystal
      Hi Crystal!

      That's a GREAT idea!!

      Keep in touch...

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    Great thread Bryce,

    Its bookmarked:-)

    Tom
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  • Profile picture of the author elaine drennan
    Hello Everyone!

    Just wanted to say hello to those who bookmarked this thread.

    How are things going now for you all?

    Regards,

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    This is an absoulte incredible thread. It hits home with me. More later.
    joe
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    • Profile picture of the author bryce
      Originally Posted by Hhhhhh View Post

      I too just bookmarked this thread, thanks Dave some great tips here.
      Cheers
      Heather
      Welcome Heather

      Originally Posted by jetinc View Post

      I think your advice is very useful. As a newbie we want some quick fix to building a list and utilizing it properly. But there really is no quick fix, it takes time and forums like this help us understand this better.
      Thanks,
      jetinc
      You are right on jetinc! It does take time, and time is something we all have. The problem is every second wasted is a second lost, and there is so much wasteful information out there, we can go for months and still not get past stage one!

      This is the idea behind the newbie site! A place to save all newbies that time, that most hardened IMers have endured. A place to kick start your online business.

      Originally Posted by IM Biz System View Post

      I just joined Warrior Forum and glad that have found this thread.

      Dave and Elaine thanks for the many Great Tips.

      Working hard on building my list as well and looking forward to sharing more once I got my squeeze page up.

      Looking forward to be part of this program.
      Welcome IM Biz System! Would love to see your page when it is ready

      Originally Posted by paulied View Post

      Hi everyone. Great thread here. Getting lots of great info. I'm definitely a newbie. Been working hard for a few months now. Made 0 so far, but learning alot (I think). I have a website (I work with vianet), but I have no list yet. I still need to work on the site more, but, I'm actually thinking of trying mlmleadsystempro. I promise you I don't work with them yet. Just looking for feedback. I just feel overwhelmed at times cause there's so many different places to participate in (myspace, facebook, you tube,wordpress. I just got a list of 7 forum sites, and that's where I found warrior. etc., etc., etc.) that my head is spinning. I work hours a day on this, and there's still not enough time. I'm not in any rush, and I'm not giving up. This is just the first chance I've had to speak to other newbies. (Deep Breath). Now I feel better. Look forward to learning from you guys. Have a great day.
      I know this feeling well paulied. Been there and bought the t-shirt, and I have also struggled through other issues at the same time. As the posts here suggest, information overload can be a dangerous thing, and we all need to be able to focus on one thing at a time, until it is within our means to multi-task.

      For every seasoned Internet Marketer out there, there are probably 10,000 newbies, and from these newbies, only around 500 will ever make any money online. Information overload is largely responsible for the other 9500 not making any money. Hopefully we can swing the odds in our favour here.

      Welcome to the thread

      Originally Posted by Traveler51 View Post

      WOW! Thanks! I'm a real newbie here and am just wandering around trying to soak up the knowlege! This is a great place to settle into!
      Welcome to the thread Traveller51

      Originally Posted by nashelver View Post

      Hi i found a site that i think all newbies should look at has alot of good free advice and videos to get you started ... be careful of some of the sells that are being done through the site but in general a very good free website for affiliate marketing its affilorama.com it has alot of good reviews in the Forum and i found it really good.

      Thanks

      Alfred
      Cool post Alfred, thanks! I will take a look at the site and see what it offers people new to the internet.

      Originally Posted by fripmix View Post

      Dave,

      Just added my thanks for starting this thread.

      I have not read all the posts in it yet but am looking forward to catching up on what's been shared (and I've subscribed to keep up).

      This idea may already have been offered in the posts I haven't read yet, but as far as doing jv with each other's lists, if list totals vary, it can still work. Just have everyone email the same number of people on their list. So if someone has 500 and someone only has 300, they can still partner, but the one with 500 would only send to 300 off their list.

      I really like the idea of a one-stop shop/membership site for newbies.

      Crystal
      Like Elaine has said Crystal, great idea! Although I would like to see something a little more flexible for some people. Some new people will not have a list at all, and this should not exclude them from anything we attempt to run here.

      Just my thoughts, but it would be cool to have things so that every member can benefit.

      Originally Posted by dave_667 View Post

      Hi Paulied

      Information overlaod is inevitable. It's how you deal with it that will define the atart of your carreer!

      I think about it as like trying to get off a desert island. It's hard to get past the breaking waves, and youwill probably get thrown back onto the shore a few times, battered and brusied, but build a stronger raft and try again. Once you get past this, it will become easier!

      Does that make sense?

      A good place to start building your list is ebay. Sell ebooks for pennies, and take them to your opt-in page after payment, then set your first message on your autoresponder to be the download link.

      You can also try to upsell a collection of books!

      Thanks

      Dave
      More great information Dave! Be in touch soon

      Originally Posted by linclad View Post

      Great thread Bryce,

      Its bookmarked:-)

      Tom
      Welcome Tom, and thankyou! Although Dave was responsible for the thread being started, I just bombarded my way in, LOL.

      Welcome!!

      Originally Posted by knucks2 View Post

      This is an absoulte incredible thread. It hits home with me. More later.
      joe
      Cool Joe, glad you like the thread. Welcome, and look forward to seeing you in the coming days
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  • Profile picture of the author missy she
    hello everyone, i couldn't read everything on this topic , but Dave hit the nail
    bang- on for me on newbies trying to get JV. I have a site setup and have been vigorously advertising wherever I see room for potential customers. List is it?
    Bought a pLR from a well reputed IM but no show since then, I have used up my savings on this IM, I am out of a job, with three children, this thing has to work , I'll like you guys to do me a favour pLs check out mysite- internetwealth-blueprint dot com- and tell me what I can do to improve it and start making a living. i have posted to WF to have a squeeze page so I can start building a list, will that help, i have written some articles and paid to have them posted , I have used directory submissions , if I haven't done it then its just because I haven't got the funds.
    Thank you guys , I really appreciate it
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    • Profile picture of the author bryce
      Originally Posted by missy she View Post

      hello everyone, i couldn't read everything on this topic , but Dave hit the nail
      bang- on for me on newbies trying to get JV. I have a site setup and have been vigorously advertising wherever I see room for potential customers. List is it?
      Bought a pLR from a well reputed IM but no show since then, I have used up my savings on this IM, I am out of a job, with three children, this thing has to work , I'll like you guys to do me a favour pLs check out mysite- internetwealth-blueprint dot com- and tell me what I can do to improve it and start making a living. i have posted to WF to have a squeeze page so I can start building a list, will that help, i have written some articles and paid to have them posted , I have used directory submissions , if I haven't done it then its just because I haven't got the funds.
      Thank you guys , I really appreciate it
      Hi Missy she, and welcome.....

      I can relate to your situation as I am sure most new internet entrepreneurs can. Availability of working capital can be a big frustration, but if it is any help at all, I can tell you that I almost went through bankruptcy a year ago, struggled on, and am still here doing what I love to do. Money sure helps, and it certainly makes some things a lot easier, but spending more money is not always going to generate the results you wanted in the first place.

      Hopefully what we can do through this thread and future plans for the Membership site, is provide you with as many resources as possible for little or no cost.

      I will hop on over and take a look at your site now, and come back here to post my comments. Just wanted to let you know I had read your post, and welcome you on board here!
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  • Profile picture of the author missy she
    thanks Bryce , awaiting your comments.
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    • Profile picture of the author bryce
      Originally Posted by missy she View Post

      thanks Bryce , awaiting your comments.
      Hi missy she,

      Been to have a look at your site and although the site itself looks cool, it is marketing a product that has been available for some time. I can only critique something from my personal experience, and as I havent experienced the product, I can't really comment on its effectiveness. I can give you my honest review of the site though, and I will do that here. Before I do this, I would just like to explain to you, that I generally view things from the perspective of a potential customer, and I do have some fairly tight guidelines that I habitually follow, before I will spend money with someone online.

      The first thing that hits me about the site, is that there is no "pop up" asking me to sign up for a newsletter or gimmick! I liked this passive nature and it allows me to study the content on the page without giving a second thought to the fact that you will eventually ask me to buy something. However in saying that, maybe the strategic placement of a couple of capture boxes, offering a free excerpt or report, would be an advantage to building your list.

      The only place on the page which asks me to action something is at the bottom of the page and it is the "buy now" button.

      When I click on the buy now button, I go through to paypal, where I am asked to spend $97 and I notice that the paypal account name is something very different from any reference on the site. Maybe look at changing that or adding a new name to your paypal account that reflects the website name. This would give the purchase process a little more credibility in my opinion.

      One of the most important things that I look at (personally) when deciding on a purchase or not, is the layout and the content on the sales page. In this case, the layout is off center and this throws me a little. I will explain to you why (as a customer) I feel this way when I land on any page that is not positioned correctly, is full of spelling errors, or is messy.

      My theory is that if a seller or site owner puts little effort into the presentation of the package, there is little liklihood that the expected level of detail has been applied to thier product, or the level of service I might expect to recieve as a customer. This may be just me, but from my research a couple of years ago, it would appear that more than 70% of all internet visitors would feel the same way. The stats showed me that in 2007, 64% of all people polled, would not buy something from a site that presented poorly. In the same research project, more than 80% of all website owners told me that if they were aware of problems on thier presentation, they would do everything in their power to rectify them.

      So from a list building perspective, maybe add those lead capture boxes to capture someones email address, by offering something free. Also maybe reallign your page so that it centres in the page, and for those people who will actually click on the buy now button to check the paypal details, change the account name at the top of the page so it looks more like it is a genuine account attached to this site.

      I hope this helps in some small way, and if I can be of help with anything, please dont hesitate to contact me.

      Bryce
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      • Profile picture of the author bryce
        Originally Posted by Harisson View Post

        Hey guys,

        This is a great idea! I love it.

        There's plenty of ways to grow your list. In fact, I'm a complete noob to IM, but was able to generate over 100 double opt in for my list in just a couple of days with free traffic resources. It was really intense. All I was doing was giving away a free 30 page report that I wrote and got a huge response with. Now I'm just "moving the free line" as one marketer we all know puts it. Releasing video's and updating my blog with useful info for my list.

        My niche is not in the IM market, I decided to go with something I do have experience with.

        I've got a huge launch tree board that I created hanging up in my home office and I'll just give you an idea of the next steps I have written up on there:

        - Release more free material.
        - Find JVs with simular products.
        - Survey list.
        - Contact Jv (max 3)
        - Interview JV's and release audio to JVs list and my list. (build list)
        - Create product and bonuses.
        - Release $27 product for market testing.

        Hope this helps those of you starting out. If you're intrested in what my site is all about, feel free to shoot me a PM.

        Here's wishing you all a ton of success!

        Mike
        Hi Mike, welcome to the thread!

        Great information my friend, and I am sure people will gain some great insight from this. Of course one of the hardest things for humans to do is stick to the plan, as we drift from one mood to another, and we deal with new circumstances each and every day. As long as a plan contains some level of flexibility, we can adjust as we need too. However it seems your plan is a good one for others to follow.

        Of course I would be interested to see your site in progress. It would be great for everyone to see this I think. Feel free to spill the beans

        Bryce

        Originally Posted by anitahd View Post

        Even though I have been trying and trying to be an affiliate marketer for the past 3 months, I haven't really gotten anywhere. I have written articles, squidoo, usfreeads, and 2 websites, etc etc. I still have made 0 sales. I can get up to the #1 spot on google but that doesn't help either.

        Can someone lead me in a direction of building a list, like what is it, how to do it, that sort of thing? I get emails daily from places I have signed up for free stuff and other so I am on a bunch of lists, but I want to have my own but don't have a clue as to how to do it.

        Any help is greatly appreciated.
        BTW this is a great thread,
        Anita
        Hi Anita,

        Welcome to the thread

        The initial stages can always be daunting, and like any other form of business, it is usually a matter of money out, before money starts to come in. It took me about 8 months to start building one of my lists, and I did nothing except build a site, wrote an ebook, and listed the site online. I have not marketed the site in any great way, and I did this for a reason. I wanted to see how long it might take to start generating leads and in what qualtities, without doing anything spectacular.

        The result is, that so far this list now has 100 people on it (double opt in) and it seems to grow at around 1 new sign up every day.

        Keep tuned in to this thread for updates and other information regarding the traffic generation, and list building techniques that you may be able to benefit from.

        Bryce

        Originally Posted by RB View Post

        Hi renegade newbies!

        I've been puts'in around for years on learning but never got to the earning part yet. I always get swept away by my offline business, which has been swept away by the economic calamity we all now face.

        I've written and written thought after thought, but never publicized them. I researched and written extensively about debt, internet business revenue producers, photography (my trade), all kinds of things - especially about the criteria newbies should consider before they buy any internet marketing product, or anything, online.

        I don't have a list, I don't have a website, (except my offline business website) but maybe I can contribute.

        I always fall short on the technical aspects of actually building a website. Maybe this great thread can build newbie partnership, each contributing and helping other newbies.

        I'll be most accessible to anyone if you contact me here in this thread or pm me, I love listening to ideas.

        I will make something good happen.

        Cheers, and don't let this thread die.

        Rick
        Hi Rick,

        Thanks for posting in the thread today! Great information, and you sound a lot like myself, when it comes to ideas and the formation of them. I am an ideas bank, and this has often been a frustration for me because I want to get each idea off and running asap! However time, and other projects usually mean I have to wait.

        If you would like to discuss anything, contact me if you like, or maybe post some of your thoughts here for others to see as well.

        Bryce

        Originally Posted by LightningYang View Post

        Great Post Dave!

        I am a fairly new guy to the Warrior Forum but have been building my business on the net for a little while, but most of my success has been offline through marketing, sales, and consulting.

        I am looking to Seriously Network With Some Joint Venture Partners Immediately! Love the idea of building with new guys such as myself 1-3 years experience.

        I have a great continuity program that I put 1000% effort into everyday in trying to help out my members and am looking to build it HUGE, with the help of other JV Partners.

        I have everything set to go and we can discuss the details of the campaign and payouts too but its at 40-50% right now depending upon the list size and buyers. All you do is mail your list and market and collect the checks!

        Either way I would love to work with most anyone here as long as you're a trustworthy and honest person, we can build future deals for sure!


        Lightning

        P.S. - Message or Email Me For Details! I'm ready ASAP!
        Hi Lightning,

        Great post and I am sure there will be some people contacting you for more details. I am also interested in what it is you are doing, so I will PM you myself.

        Bryce
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        • Profile picture of the author jondavidson
          Hello Everyone,
          (Especially Bryce & Dave for starting and sticking to this thread)
          Jon Davidson here and I am a newbie warrior.
          I have read and re-read the posts here and as usual, I have found that there is a few of us out there who have a great community in sharing the ideas and products with those trying to make a go of it.

          I have been in the IM for a short period and am always looking for new ways to promote and get the word out as most of us are.

          You know, it's funny I would read Bryce's comment about sticking to the plan and that comment reached out and grabbed me. Know why? It's the same thing I say in just about all of my emails and posts... "Find a Plan, Stick to the Plan and Failure is NOT an option."

          I have lived by those simple words and to this day I have to say, satisfaction is in my life.

          Great job guys and I'll be back to visit with you all and keep up on the project.
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  • Profile picture of the author Harisson
    Hey guys,

    This is a great idea! I love it.

    There's plenty of ways to grow your list. In fact, I'm a complete noob to IM, but was able to generate over 100 double opt in for my list in just a couple of days with free traffic resources. It was really intense. All I was doing was giving away a free 30 page report that I wrote and got a huge response with. Now I'm just "moving the free line" as one marketer we all know puts it. Releasing video's and updating my blog with useful info for my list.

    My niche is not in the IM market, I decided to go with something I do have experience with.

    I've got a huge launch tree board that I created hanging up in my home office and I'll just give you an idea of the next steps I have written up on there:

    - Release more free material.
    - Find JVs with simular products.
    - Survey list.
    - Contact Jv (max 3)
    - Interview JV's and release audio to JVs list and my list. (build list)
    - Create product and bonuses.
    - Release $27 product for market testing.

    Hope this helps those of you starting out. If you're intrested in what my site is all about, feel free to shoot me a PM.

    Here's wishing you all a ton of success!

    Mike
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    • Profile picture of the author anitahd
      Even though I have been trying and trying to be an affiliate marketer for the past 3 months, I haven't really gotten anywhere. I have written articles, squidoo, usfreeads, and 2 websites, etc etc. I still have made 0 sales. I can get up to the #1 spot on google but that doesn't help either.

      Can someone lead me in a direction of building a list, like what is it, how to do it, that sort of thing? I get emails daily from places I have signed up for free stuff and other so I am on a bunch of lists, but I want to have my own but don't have a clue as to how to do it.

      Any help is greatly appreciated.
      BTW this is a great thread,
      Anita
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      • Profile picture of the author RB
        Hi renegade newbies!

        I've been puts'in around for years on learning but never got to the earning part yet. I always get swept away by my offline business, which has been swept away by the economic calamity we all now face.

        I've written and written thought after thought, but never publicized them. I researched and written extensively about debt, internet business revenue producers, photography (my trade), all kinds of things - especially about the criteria newbies should consider before they buy any internet marketing product, or anything, online.

        I don't have a list, I don't have a website, (except my offline business website) but maybe I can contribute.

        I always fall short on the technical aspects of actually building a website. Maybe this great thread can build newbie partnership, each contributing and helping other newbies.

        I'll be most accessible to anyone if you contact me here in this thread or pm me, I love listening to ideas.

        I will make something good happen.

        Cheers, and don't let this thread die.

        Rick
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  • Profile picture of the author Wasim
    Hi all,

    I've just book marked this. I am a newbie. I can design graphics and simple webpages including squeze pages using forms from any of the email marketing companies out there like GetResponse, Aweber etc. My very first attempt at creating something for a ClickBank product went very baddly wrong so I've come to learn as much as possible.

    I will be following this discussion.
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  • Profile picture of the author webhosting134
    As a newbie, I've been looking for a effective way to spend my time, since I'm the only one to do IM= = Anyone got some effective way out there?
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    • Profile picture of the author David Chamberlain
      Originally Posted by webhosting134 View Post

      As a newbie, I've been looking for a effective way to spend my time, since I'm the only one to do IM= = Anyone got some effective way out there?

      The best way to spend your time as a newbie is learning and doing, just keep repeating this over and over again.

      If you learn to much, you will switch off.

      What level are you at? Have you got your own website? Do you have an autoresponder?

      Let me knwo a bit more about your situation, and i'll give you some better advice!

      Thanks

      Dave
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      • Profile picture of the author bryce
        Originally Posted by jondavidson View Post

        Hello Everyone,
        (Especially Bryce & Dave for starting and sticking to this thread)
        Jon Davidson here and I am a newbie warrior.
        I have read and re-read the posts here and as usual, I have found that there is a few of us out there who have a great community in sharing the ideas and products with those trying to make a go of it.

        I have been in the IM for a short period and am always looking for new ways to promote and get the word out as most of us are.

        You know, it's funny I would read Bryce's comment about sticking to the plan and that comment reached out and grabbed me. Know why? It's the same thing I say in just about all of my emails and posts... "Find a Plan, Stick to the Plan and Failure is NOT an option."

        I have lived by those simple words and to this day I have to say, satisfaction is in my life.

        Great job guys and I'll be back to visit with you all and keep up on the project.
        Hi Jon,

        Welcome to the thread and thanks for the message. I believe sticking to a "flexible" plan is paramount, and am living proof that by not sticking to it, and allowing other things to change the course, can only lead to a delayed arrival time.

        My latest post here will show why a plan needs to be flexible, but the ability to jump right back on course is absolutely necessary. Thanks again for your comments, and I hope you gain some benefit from the information in this thread

        Originally Posted by cima View Post

        As I'm in the Forex Niche with my forex blog review, we (my 114 subscribers list and I lol) can't get involved in your great project. Unfortunately, i really support what you're doing and we should be trying to do that oftener as it is more than tough to find partners when you're beginning ! Don't worry, we'll all succeed one day !

        Cheers, Samuel !
        Hi Samuel,

        Welcome welcome, and I am not sure, maybe I missed something, but I can't see any reason why you would be excluded from any upcoming projects?! Maybe you would like to elaborate


        Originally Posted by transcontinental View Post

        OMG this makes me so excited!! I don't know what actually works, but if you want to know what doesn't work I've got you covered. LOL
        Hahahaha love it! I think we can all cover these areas quite nicley Welcome transcontinental! Stick around and I am sure you will be on your way in no time at all

        Originally Posted by Wasim View Post

        Hi all,

        I've just book marked this. I am a newbie. I can design graphics and simple webpages including squeze pages using forms from any of the email marketing companies out there like GetResponse, Aweber etc. My very first attempt at creating something for a ClickBank product went very baddly wrong so I've come to learn as much as possible.

        I will be following this discussion.
        Hello Wasim, welcome to the thread! I would be interested to hear momre about your graphics capabilities, and your simple site design. Maybe you could PM me, and we can see how this can start making you some money. Let me know your rates, and any other details you may feel would be of benefit to people starting out. That would be cool!

        It would also be very cool to hear "why" your first attempt at a CB product went horribly wrong. Sometimes we can jusge our own efforts very severely unnecessarily. I am sure others could benefit from this example also.

        Originally Posted by webhosting134 View Post

        As a newbie, I've been looking for a effective way to spend my time, since I'm the only one to do IM= = Anyone got some effective way out there?
        LOL, the only one - yeah right I think Dave has covered your post in his response and I would add, that there is not really one method for all. Some things seem to work well for some, and not others. By assessing the points Dave mentions, you have a clearer picture of what you will need to do to succeed.
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        • Profile picture of the author bryce
          Hi guys,

          Well it seems that this thread is attracting some great people! I have been watching and replying as much as possible to now, as I have been dealing with some personal issues for a few weeks and this has put me behind in a number of key areas.

          As some of you may know, my grandmother passed away a short time ago, and I flew home to New Zealand to spend some time with the family. Being that I had not been back for some years, in fact not since my father passed away, I had some catching up to do. These periods are always the worst to deal with because everyone is filled with a mixture of sadness, anger, frustration, and other mixed emotions. It has been tough to say the least.

          As it turns out, I may now stay in NZ permanently again, after being in Aus for 15 years. I have re-established some connections here, and am pretty much back online from today.

          This period is what bought to mind the philosophy of "sticking to the plan" as Jon mentioned in his post on this thread. That plan though, needs to be flexible to accomodate such occurrences as I have just been through. It is times like this when you realise just how important "other" things in life are, and there are certainly times when priorities need to be adjusted. As long as we dont lose sight of that plan, we can always jump back on the wagon and recommence where we left off.

          My plan is now to continue to assist any way I can, and to sell a few more sites, in order to continue the ability for me to earn a comfortable living online.

          Glad to be back!
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          • Profile picture of the author jondavidson
            Yes Bryce,

            Having a plan IS paramont, however when family issues arrise, they must take precedence over our daily routine.

            My sincere condolences on your loss Bryce, It is difficult to get back on a routine when one suffers a loss. My best to you and your family.

            Family always comes first in my book, although sometimes I get a bit too wrapped up in the focus of the day and forget that there are others waiting on me to finish my daily projects.

            How many others have done that? I'll bet no one here, right? Uh Huh. Right. By a show of hands err, ah, I mean yeah's or nay's, I'll bet there are a couple others who have done the same thing as me...too much focus and not enough playtime makes Jonny a dull boy.

            And now...Welcome Back!

            Look forward to getting seriously involved here and again to Dave and Bryce.... Thanks again for posting and maintaining this thread!

            Oh and by the way.... to let everyone know... I'll be launching a new subscription site very soon, all I need is a few more tweeks and content and it's off to cyberspace. I'll be sure to let everyone in on it as the time grows nearer, but for now... that small, little inquisitive fellow that sits on all of our shoulders will have to be patient.

            Since most of us are newbies here I want to be sure to include all of you once it's up and running. I think everyone deserves a great chance at this one.

            Until next time,
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            • Profile picture of the author bryce
              Hello again Jon,

              Thankyou for your message and comments, they are well received, appreciated and very thoughtful

              You hit the nail on the head. I have been that "dull" person many times, and as my son was growing up I had lots of those, "Oh dear what I have I done" moments, lol.

              This is a cool thread, one without pressure and pretense, and I enjoy coming in every chance I get, to see what everyone is up to, and how I might be able to assist. Thanks for your support and encouragement.

              Your new site sounds very exciting, and I can't wait to see what thats all about, as I am sure others will feel the same way I will tell that little shoulder monster, to sit tight and be patient

              Thanks again Jon, it means a lot!

              Bryce





              Originally Posted by jondavidson View Post

              Yes Bryce,

              Having a plan IS paramont, however when family issues arrise, they must take precedence over our daily routine.

              My sincere condolences on your loss Bryce, It is difficult to get back on a routine when one suffers a loss. My best to you and your family.

              Family always comes first in my book, although sometimes I get a bit too wrapped up in the focus of the day and forget that there are others waiting on me to finish my daily projects.

              How many others have done that? I'll bet no one here, right? Uh Huh. Right. By a show of hands err, ah, I mean yeah's or nay's, I'll bet there are a couple others who have done the same thing as me...too much focus and not enough playtime makes Jonny a dull boy.

              And now...Welcome Back!

              Look forward to getting seriously involved here and again to Dave and Bryce.... Thanks again for posting and maintaining this thread!

              Oh and by the way.... to let everyone know... I'll be launching a new subscription site very soon, all I need is a few more tweeks and content and it's off to cyberspace. I'll be sure to let everyone in on it as the time grows nearer, but for now... that small, little inquisitive fellow that sits on all of our shoulders will have to be patient.

              Since most of us are newbies here I want to be sure to include all of you once it's up and running. I think everyone deserves a great chance at this one.

              Until next time,
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  • Profile picture of the author joelraitt
    Ok, so does anyone know of a site where people with less then 500 subscribers can talk and set up JV?
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    • Profile picture of the author bryce
      Originally Posted by joelraitt View Post

      Ok, so does anyone know of a site where people with less then 500 subscribers can talk and set up JV?
      Hi there joelraitt, and welcome to the thread

      Although I dont know of any specifically, I can tell you that there will be one very soon . Keep checking back and I am sure you will be happy with what transpires from this thread and the great people here!

      Bryce
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    • Profile picture of the author ladystrange
      Originally Posted by joelraitt View Post

      Ok, so does anyone know of a site where people with less then 500 subscribers can talk and set up JV?
      Originally Posted by JamesHughes View Post

      Hey, does anyone have a wordpress blog, or know of any groups on here that involves wordpress technical discussions?

      Thanks People
      I feel a little awkward posting here, because unlike you guys I do not have a set plan. However, I have gotten so many questions over the years from newbies about how to even post a banner somewhere. I would not call anyone here a newbie as you have plans and are taken action to implement them.

      I have just started a brand spanking new social network, as a matter of fact I am still working on the back end a little, and have not added hardly any content yet, and I still need to work on some original graphics. The whole idea behind this network is for people to learn how to make with their blogs. The network is set up on buddypress - so everyone can create wordpress blogs (for free), and users will also be able to create backlinks to their own web pages. There are also group features.

      I know this will catch on because I plan on catering to extreme newbies, well everyone trying to make money online.

      The reason I don't have plan is because I have not figured out how to monetize it yet. I just know that the shoe fits, I like to help and lead.

      Anyways you guys are more than welcome to set up a home base over there, and right now you can dominate the area while I continue to spruce up and clean out the cob webs. I just added the link in my signature just for you guys, if you are interested.

      whoops I do not think I have enough posts for my signature to show up just check out my homepage on my profile
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  • Profile picture of the author Marc Jager
    Good stuff, this thread. Subscribing to it now : )
    I'm a newbie too - Introduced myself at http://www.warriorforum.com/off-topi...-everyone.html

    Dave, you said you spent $310.79 setting up a website. I hope that was due to paying someone to design it or some such and not hosting...
    For all newbies; please realise you can get hosting for around $13US (I've heard you can get even cheaper but probably without some of the tools that you get when you pay more)

    Anywho, I want to share who I get my domain names and hosting with, and yes, I have made them an affiliate ; )
    I've been using them for years and I love how it's all done online, I love how cheap it is and I love all the tools in their 'C-panel'. Something like $12us to register a .com and $13US for a year's hosting.
    They are 3iX.org

    Anywhoo, I hope to learn a lot from this thread as well as the whole forum.

    Since I'm starting out, I'll share my plan so if I fall on my face or if I succeed, we newbies will all be able to see and learn from my ventures.

    TEH BASIC PLAN:
    (1) Build 5 niche websites (actually I have 1 started already, so I'll be creating 4 new ones)
    Ideas: * Diet/weight-loss * Innovation/Invention (I have already written a short e-book entitled 'The Secret to Innovation') * General Health and Lifestyle
    * The site I already have (superchlorophyll.com - recently expired so i just have to re-upload it) * Emplyment/Self-Emplyment.
    -On each site I intend to provide free information and sell clickbank affiliate products related to the site.
    - Each site will help drive traffic to the others and to my blog.
    - Some, if not all will sell my own eBook or info-video.
    - Allow Adsense ads on the sites
    (2) Start a health and lifestyle blog with my own unique twist.
    - I understand this would be used to build an e-mail list.
    - I also plan to link my 5 websites to this blog.
    - I also plan to sell affilate products on this blog.
    <This is what I'll need the most help with - I'm unfamiliar with using and managing an e-mail list - the whole Aweber and GetResponse thing... >

    (3) Package/prepare my eBook for sale
    (I have an eBook/essay type thing entitled 'The Secret to Innovation')
    - I could give this away for free for e-mail gathering
    - I could sell it...
    - It would link to my websites and blogg.

    (4) Create several 'how to' videos - E.g. How to Innovate video (from my eBook), or 'How to Play a Ranger in Age of Conan'.
    - Each video points people back to websites or blogg.

    (5) Learn/experiment with Adwords (I won't do this for a long time and not untill I've had success with the basics above)
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    • Profile picture of the author michael074
      Hi Dave, Bryce and everyone else.

      I'm a Noob. Been in this game since May. Got a microscopic list (7). Made 1 sale on clickbank ($37). Joined a good membership site and this forum. Have a 1 page site up and 3 articles on Ezine. Looking at online assistance for offline businesses with a couple of people local to me.

      Glad to be here.

      Mike.
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      • Profile picture of the author bryce
        Originally Posted by michael074 View Post

        Hi Dave, Bryce and everyone else.

        I'm a Noob. Been in this game since May. Got a microscopic list (7). Made 1 sale on clickbank ($37). Joined a good membership site and this forum. Have a 1 page site up and 3 articles on Ezine. Looking at online assistance for offline businesses with a couple of people local to me.

        Glad to be here.

        Mike.
        Hi Mike and welcome to the thread

        What I like about your post is almost everything, lol. You have made a sale which some people have not done even after a long time online. Being that you have only been doing this for 2 months (almost) you could probably create a small report on "how you made your first sale in no time at all"

        You have a list and it isnt that microscopic when you consider it took me more than 5 months to build a list of 7 people. Not only do you have a list of 7 people but I assume your customer is one of those people. This means your list has already converted at 14.2% - I dont think too many people would sneeze at that!

        You have a simple one page site set up and online, and you have articles on Ezine. You have also joined this site and one other. What all of this tells me is that you have gone with a complete package on one product, and covered almost all the bases.

        This is something that a lot of people struggle with. You have not let information overload get in your way, and it sounds like you have kept everything focussed.

        Well done Mike, well done!

        Originally Posted by Marc Jager View Post

        Good stuff, this thread. Subscribing to it now : )

        Anywho, I want to share who I get my domain names and hosting with, and yes, I have made them an affiliate ; )
        I've been using them for years and I love how it's all done online, I love how cheap it is and I love all the tools in their 'C-panel'. Something like $12us to register a .com and $13US for a year's hosting.
        They are 3iX.org

        Anywhoo, I hope to learn a lot from this thread as well as the whole forum.

        Since I'm starting out, I'll share my plan so if I fall on my face or if I succeed, we newbies will all be able to see and learn from my ventures.

        TEH BASIC PLAN:
        (1) Build 5 niche websites (actually I have 1 started already, so I'll be creating 4 new ones)
        Ideas: * Diet/weight-loss * Innovation/Invention (I have already written a short e-book entitled 'The Secret to Innovation') * General Health and Lifestyle
        * The site I already have (superchlorophyll.com - recently expired so i just have to re-upload it) * Emplyment/Self-Emplyment.
        -On each site I intend to provide free information and sell clickbank affiliate products related to the site.
        - Each site will help drive traffic to the others and to my blog.
        - Some, if not all will sell my own eBook or info-video.
        - Allow Adsense ads on the sites
        (2) Start a health and lifestyle blog with my own unique twist.
        - I understand this would be used to build an e-mail list.
        - I also plan to link my 5 websites to this blog.
        - I also plan to sell affilate products on this blog.
        <This is what I'll need the most help with - I'm unfamiliar with using and managing an e-mail list - the whole Aweber and GetResponse thing... >

        (3) Package/prepare my eBook for sale
        (I have an eBook/essay type thing entitled 'The Secret to Innovation')
        - I could give this away for free for e-mail gathering
        - I could sell it...
        - It would link to my websites and blogg.

        (4) Create several 'how to' videos - E.g. How to Innovate video (from my eBook), or 'How to Play a Ranger in Age of Conan'.
        - Each video points people back to websites or blogg.

        (5) Learn/experiment with Adwords (I won't do this for a long time and not untill I've had success with the basics above)
        Hi there Marc, welcome

        Sounds like a great plan my friend! The cheap hosting is cool, and I will be checking them out. I am hosted with Hostgator and APTHost where I have had no problems at all in almost 4 years, but they do cost a lot more than $13 a year.

        Your plan sounds good. Linking all your sites to each other is bound to create the traffic flow needed to make some sales, and build various lists. Video marketing is the way of the future, and already it has taken over older formats as the preferred method. However it isnt for everyone, or every product. I also do audio marketing through simple mp3's and .wav files. That is effective too because people can play them just about anywhere.

        Stick around Marc, it will be cool to see how your plan works out, and I am sure there will be many more people iterested in following your progress.
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      • Profile picture of the author jondavidson
        Originally Posted by michael074 View Post

        Hi Dave, Bryce and everyone else.

        I'm a Noob. Been in this game since May. Got a microscopic list (7). Made 1 sale on clickbank ($37). Joined a good membership site and this forum. Have a 1 page site up and 3 articles on Ezine. Looking at online assistance for offline businesses with a couple of people local to me.

        Glad to be here.

        Mike.
        Hey Mike...
        One sale is better that NO sale at all.

        Now...Repeat as necessary!

        Congrats on the 1st sale! It's always a great feeling!.
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    • Profile picture of the author jondavidson
      Hi Marc,
      And Welcome to the thread.

      That's a great outline to a plan and that's what
      is great to see...a man with a plan!

      Can't wait to see it all pulled together!
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  • Profile picture of the author Marc Jager
    Thanks guys, I promise to keep ya'll informed!
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  • Profile picture of the author David Chamberlain
    Hi Karen

    I have an option for you.

    I am involved with a design company who will also host your site on their own server for you.

    If you want to have a chat about what you need doing, just send me a PM! I'll help as much as I can!

    Thanks

    Dave
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    • Profile picture of the author bryce
      Originally Posted by DennisFMaloney View Post

      Man i am glad i stop by great information being posted in here.I have also started growing my list using traffic exchanges with a landing page with free plr for their email. Doing good with it looking to expand to forums, but not till i get my post up.

      Thanks for the info.
      Hi and welcome Dennis!
      Its great to hear you are off to a good start! Keep the flow happening and the results will speak for themselves. Keep chacking here for more news and updates. I am sure you will do well.

      Originally Posted by Dhrousha View Post

      Hi All,

      So much great information in one thread! Thank you all...

      I have spent a lot of time reading all I can (now suffering Information Overload). I have now begun to unsubscribe from the lists that email me too often.

      I have a great niche idea (i think...) concerned with the breeding side of dogs - stuff I know about! I have written my ebook and a short report plus a load of articles. I have also collected a few giveaways in the dog market.

      However, I am a complete novice when it comes to websites.

      Kind people try to give me advice but lose me when they start talking in initials - php,ftp etc.

      Can anyone point me in the direction of 'idiot proof' - easy language instructions for setting up a website. I really want to learn how to do this myself rather than outsource.

      As a 'financially challenged' as well as 'technically challenged' person I would really appreciate any advice.

      Thanks

      Karen

      p.s. Dave -I'm originally from Blackburn but lived in Preston for 2 years before coming to Ireland. C'mon the Rovers!!!
      Hi karen, welcome to the thread! Wow sounds like you have all the ingredients, and I wish you well with your project. Info overload can be a killer so watch out for that, lol. Good idea to thin out the email subs, as they are usually nothing but time wasters.

      Don't be daunted by the "initials" hehehe - they are really quite easy to understand after a short time. I can understand you wanting to have control over your site, and wanting to do it yourself. I was exactly the same.

      I notice you have a couple of posts here, so I will leave this one at that and respond to your others regarding their content.


      Originally Posted by Bigpicture View Post

      What a pleasure to see 'all hands on deck' to help us fantastic Newbies, with a capital 'N'.

      After a series of challenges and being laid off I have, eventually, got my squeeze page up and running, and have got my autoresponder finally live 6 days ago as of today. I am happy to say I have a subscribed list of 30.

      We agree that building a list is one of our main objectives, and as stated many times above, that gurus (especially self-proclaimed ones - that makes me laugh) are of no help to us. So we Newbies have to stick together and build our lists.

      Let's go achieve. Together!
      Hi there "Capital N", lol. Welcome to the thread

      Excellent news about your 30 subscribers, thats really cool! I would love to see your squeeze page, to see what you have done. I am sure others would also like this.

      Originally Posted by jondavidson View Post

      Hi Karen,

      Sounds like you have a great plan ahead!

      There are several methods to setting up a site and depending on how involved (graphics etc) you want to get, how many pages etc. But if you want to set up something like a squeeze page or a landing page for your product/service I might recommend any of the following:

      Blogger.com Very easy to set up and you can embed videos,pics, graphics etc.

      (Here's a tutorial for Blogger)

      Squidoo.com This has a bit more versatility and is also easy to set up and can do the same as above. (Here's a tutorial on Squidoo)

      Wordpress.com A lot of people use this one.

      (Here is one on Wordpress)


      All three of these are free tools to create a page to drive your traffic to.

      Use all three.
      Good luck and maybe someone else here on the thread has others for you to try but those three is what I would recommend to start.

      Have you uploaded your e-book or published your articles to anywhere yet or is this why you want the site?

      Keep us posted.

      Until Later...
      Good info Jon, and it all makes sense. These are 3 of the bst no cost platforms. Oh and BTW I will reply to your email later today. Sorry mate I was sidetracked for a bit, hehehe :p

      Originally Posted by BackLinking Expert View Post

      I still remember.. When I was new here, I earned 190$ in first two months with my hardwork.. I was happy with it but unfortuantely paypal limited my account ..
      Old time..
      Now I'm happy with my current earnings .. I earn more per day than what I earned in 2 months .. Touchwood..
      Hi there Mr Expert! I am sure that $190 a month is $190 a month more than some people on this thread are making. How about sharing some of the tips you learned to create a daily income of the same amount

      Originally Posted by Dhrousha View Post

      Hi Jon,

      Thanks for that. I already have Squidoo, Wordpress and Blogger for other non-sales related stuff.

      For my own 'product' I want to set up a proper website - I want to appear as if I know what I'm doing...LOL.

      I want to have a home page with site map that links to all other pages, a landing page to offer my freebie, a blog to answer any queries (would that work?), pages for articles etc.

      I haven't submitted any articles for this yet because I want to tie everything together. The only thing I have is my domain name (from GoDaddy).

      Where would be the best place to host my website? What should I pay?

      Do I go for the basic offering or go for the 'all bells and whistles' option for hosting?

      Thanks in advance

      Karen

      Backlinking Expert,

      I am hoping to follow in your footsteps - i.e. make money.
      How do I find a good source to explain (again in 'idiot proof' terms) about backlinking.
      Also, can you tell me what to do to stop paypal limiting an account - I live in hope! LOL

      Thanks

      Karen
      Hi again Karen,

      I realise this post is aimed at Jon and Mr Expert, but I would just like to butt in (as I do that so well, lol) and add my 2 cents. I can appreciate you wanting a professional looking site, partcularly if you already have the three platforms Jon mentioned above. All of what you have described is fairly easy to accomplish.

      Do you have an understanding of basic html and/or site building software. If so you could use NVU or WYSIWYG5 for your site design. NVU is free and WYSIWYG is very cheap considering what it can do. I have and still do use both from time to time. There are also others available, and I will hunt some of the resources I have used over the years, to see if they may help.

      A "blog" or "forum" would handle your site queries, as would a simple "F&Q" system or page. All of this is again, fairly easy to set up, particularly if your hosting account has cpanel with Fantastico installed. If you are not sure what these are, I can help give you a better understanding, and I am sure others can too.

      The required "bells and whistles" you might need really depends on what you want your site to have attached. The size of the files you have to store on the server (Site) and the resources you want to use. The more you have and the bigger the files, the more bandwidth and disk space you will require. If you intend linking, streaming or hosting video or audio files, these take up a lot of space and your hosting account may need to have some resources that free of very cheap hosting packages don't allow for. Hostgator has a great reputation for their packages and service, and tey have everything you will ever need. Packages start at around $5 a month.

      Hope this helps, and doesnt confuse.
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      • Profile picture of the author bryce
        Hi everyone,

        Hope you all are having a really cool day and are looking forward to the weekend. I am adding this post today as a result of an email I received today, and I thought you may be interested.

        Without giving too much away, (cos those gurus might see, lol) I would like to first say that "if" there is any merit in the idea I have, I would like to make it so everyone on this thread can benefit from it. For now I would like to ask a question.....

        Forget the competition, because with the twist I have come up with, there won't be much!

        Question:

        Do you think there is a market for "buying and selling websites"?
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          • Profile picture of the author bryce
            Originally Posted by Bigpicture View Post

            Hi Bryce,

            Thanks for your encouraging words.

            I am not permitted to post links at this stage (only have 6 posts - I need 15 ). Click on the ebook in my signature, that will take you to my squeeze page.

            I welcome comments.
            You are more than welcome! I have gone one better than using the link, hahaha - I signed up and that will add another subscriber I will read the next information tomorrow (well later today actually) it is nearly 3am here and I have been on the go since 8 yesterday morning. Will be back to tell you what I thought,

            till then
            cya
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        • Profile picture of the author jondavidson
          Originally Posted by bryce View Post

          Hi everyone,

          Hope you all are having a really cool day and are looking forward to the weekend. I am adding this post today as a result of an email I received today, and I thought you may be interested.

          Without giving too much away, (cos those gurus might see, lol) I would like to first say that "if" there is any merit in the idea I have, I would like to make it so everyone on this thread can benefit from it. For now I would like to ask a question.....

          Forget the competition, because with the twist I have come up with, there won't be much!

          Question:

          Do you think there is a market for "buying and selling websites"?
          Hey Bryce,
          In Answer to your question: YEP. There are several sites are doing it already.. you can check out Sitepoint prices are anywhere from $45 - $8,000 per site to purchase.

          DealASite.com is another that I have seen many sales in the thousands and some in the $10K +!

          And this one, BuySellWebsite.com I saw one site for sale for 300K...Good profit for a days work huh?

          O.K. now the question: Why do you ask? and would you care to share the twist?

          Until next time.
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  • Profile picture of the author Karen Connell
    Thank you everyone for your help. It's great to know that I'm not alone in this! LOL

    Karen
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    • Profile picture of the author michael074
      Hi Dhrousha,

      The link you are looking for about the website building is in my sig.

      Mike
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      • Profile picture of the author Karen Connell
        Originally Posted by michael074 View Post

        Hi Dhrousha,

        The link you are looking for about the website building is in my sig.

        Mike
        Hi Mike,

        Thanks for that.

        I'll grab it and have a read.

        Regards

        Karen
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        • Profile picture of the author Karen Connell
          Hi Again,

          The ebook from Mike is the Dogs Doodahs!!

          It is 'idiot proof' and I can now see sun through the clouds!!

          Anyone who needs step by step info on building their own website - this is it.

          Thank you Mike and thank you to everyone who took the time to answer my very tedious questions.

          I'm off to finish reading and then I can begin building my empire - watch this space... LOL

          Karen
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    Hey, does anyone have a wordpress blog, or know of any groups on here that involves wordpress technical discussions?

    Thanks People
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    Hi David, I'm new to Warrior Forum. It would be great if we could hook up and maybe Joint Venture to grow our lists. Just send me a reply.

    Cheers

    James
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    Does anyone have a squdoo account and what are the benfit of having one compared to a blogger account?

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    • Profile picture of the author jondavidson
      Originally Posted by JamesHughes View Post

      Does anyone have a squdoo account and what are the benfit of having one compared to a blogger account?

      Cheers
      Hi James,

      I have a Squidoo account and benefits used to be that Google liked Squidoo. I have found many post by others,(not here) that says Google doesn't like Squidoo as much anymore but I still recieve good search rankings using Squidoo.

      Another advantage is I find that once you get used to Squidoo, it is a bit more versitile and you have a few more options and features to choose from.
      (This comparison is only between Squidoo and Blogger.com)
      I don't know which blogging platform you use but I try to use all of them.

      If you decide to use Squidoo, let me give you a hint on how to improve your lens ranking... join a group or two that has to do with your particular niche and keep your lens updated.

      Hope this Helps.

      Until Next Time.
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  • Profile picture of the author DeanJames
    Do you think there is a market for "buying and selling websites"?
    Bryce, there definitely is. The money is in what skills you can bring to the table to increase the earnings of the site and/or change the revenue model. Also there will be disparities between marketplaces...

    Karen - You sound like you're on the right path. Getting out of information overload and into 'action mode' is the way to go. Best thing to do is read some stuff, then set aside time for action.... even if you do it by setting a timer or alarm and laser focus for 2-3 hours.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sue Harrison
      Hi everyone

      I think this might be my first post here - lost track of where I have been and where I have posted (forum-wise), so when I have finished I had better go back to the right thread and check whether I have said hello or not - someone mentioned information overload - definitely suffering from it here.

      I bought into a program this last week, well two actually (Jonny Andrews) and I have to say I really, really like the way he says it like it is, and the help and advice he gives, but, there is just so much of it. I think I am beginning to understand the process and then read something else which completely throws me.

      I am list-less (and listless), website-less, squeeze-less..... and on it goes. I have only ever "played around" with the likes of Facebook, Twitter etc. and am suffering very much from frustration with my own inabilities to grasp anything other than I need to build lists.

      I intend to start life out here in cyberspace as an affiliate - full stop. Now what? I've read info saying you should only choose a program/product you are familiar with and other info saying you can basically choose anything you want to become involved in - there is plenty of stuff I am interested in but does that make me qualified to create a squeeze page promoting something I possibly don't have any first-hand experience of? Do I buy a domain name and create a website (I have a bit of experience of doing this) or do I do it via a blog - arghhhh?

      I have very little cash to throw at any more things other than the real essentials such as an autoresponder (oh God, and there's another thing I just cannot get my head around - what on earth do you say in all these autoresponder messages).

      As you can see - and I apologise for the lengthy whinge - I don't think I have a bl**dy clue as to what I am supposed to be doing, but I will be damned if it is going to beat me I have every intention of making a success of this but I just seemed to have reached a crossroads with no signs to point me in the right direction. I intend to have all my credit cards paid off much sooner than it will take at the present rate, and to buy some form of transport - even a pushbike sounds a luxury at the moment

      Am I a lost cause?

      Sue
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      • Profile picture of the author bryce
        Originally Posted by Dhrousha View Post

        Thank you everyone for your help. It's great to know that I'm not alone in this! LOL

        Karen
        You are welcome Karen, and you are far from alone my friend, far from alone.

        Originally Posted by JamesHughes View Post

        Hey, does anyone have a wordpress blog, or know of any groups on here that involves wordpress technical discussions?

        Thanks People
        Not too sure what is on WF but there is bound to be something on WP. I have and have had a number of blogs and sites built around WP, as I am sure many here have. Don't be afraid to ask questions, and maybe try conducting a search on the forum using the search facility.

        Originally Posted by Dhrousha View Post

        Hi Again,

        The ebook from Mike is the Dogs Doodahs!!

        It is 'idiot proof' and I can now see sun through the clouds!!

        Anyone who needs step by step info on building their own website - this is it.

        Thank you Mike and thank you to everyone who took the time to answer my very tedious questions.

        I'm off to finish reading and then I can begin building my empire - watch this space... LOL

        Karen
        Hahaha reading, yes now there is something I am sure we are all familiar with..... You are right Karen, that book is a good one. I can see with your passion, that empire is not too far away

        Originally Posted by ladystrange View Post

        I feel a little awkward posting here, because unlike you guys I do not have a set plan. However, I have gotten so many questions over the years from newbies about how to even post a banner somewhere. I would not call anyone here a newbie as you have plans and are taken action to implement them.

        I have just started a brand spanking new social network, as a matter of fact I am still working on the back end a little, and have not added hardly any content yet, and I still need to work on some original graphics. The whole idea behind this network is for people to learn how to make with their blogs. The network is set up on buddypress - so everyone can create wordpress blogs (for free), and users will also be able to create backlinks to their own web pages. There are also group features.

        I know this will catch on because I plan on catering to extreme newbies, well everyone trying to make money online.

        The reason I don't have plan is because I have not figured out how to monetize it yet. I just know that the shoe fits, I like to help and lead.

        Anyways you guys are more than welcome to set up a home base over there, and right now you can dominate the area while I continue to spruce up and clean out the cob webs. I just added the link in my signature just for you guys, if you are interested.

        whoops I do not think I have enough posts for my signature to show up just check out my homepage on my profile
        Never feel awkward ladystrange We are all new, or relatively new, or have been at one time! Although it may seem that everyone has a plan, let me be the first to let you know that having a plan and sticking with the plan are two entirely different things. Your plan may be as simple as to complete your first minisite, or it may be that your plan is to confirm which avenue to take to create your online income. After that, well more plans are made. You dont have to have your "success" plan completed from day one. Things evolve.

        In fact you already have a plan of sorts in the development of your social network. By sticking to the group you have decided upon, you have set down a plan. I like the sound of it too, because I know that if this sort of dedicated attention was available to me when I started, I would be a lot further ahead than I am.

        Monetizing can be achieved in many ways, but I have not yet seen your platform, so I will leave specifics until I have. I look forward to hearing more about your project.

        Originally Posted by jondavidson View Post

        Hey Bryce,
        In Answer to your question: YEP. There are several sites are doing it already.. you can check out Sitepoint prices are anywhere from $45 - $8,000 per site to purchase.

        DealASite.com is another that I have seen many sales in the thousands and some in the $10K +!

        And this one, BuySellWebsite.com I saw one site for sale for 300K...Good profit for a days work huh?

        O.K. now the question: Why do you ask? and would you care to share the twist?

        Until next time.
        Thanks for your response Jon. I should have elaborated but I wanted to gauge peoples opinion. I have used sitepoint before, and it is due to sitepoint that I asked the question.

        I don't want to add too much here in case the gods, (sorry, gurus) are watchng. I will say that I received an interesting email from sitepoint a couple of days ago, and certain things have changed or are about to change. As you may already know, the site is now known as (beta) Flippa.com and there have been some significent changes in the listing process.

        I was thinking, (as I often do too much, lol) that these changes may have in fact created a niche that people may see potential in. If the idea was a good one, we could utilise it, open it up to people on this thread, and help to make everyone here some money.

        So, for anyone reading this, if you think the idea of buying and selling websites (virtual property) is an interesting one, maybe PM me and I will discuss some finer points of the idea with you.

        Originally Posted by JamesHughes View Post

        Hi David, I'm new to Warrior Forum. It would be great if we could hook up and maybe Joint Venture to grow our lists. Just send me a reply.

        Cheers

        James
        Welcome James

        Originally Posted by redmeance View Post

        I am new to the game as well.Great minds think alike and it a very power thing when they accually come together for one common goal.Maybe you,Mr Chamberlin and myself can get together and see what we can come up with.
        Welcome redmeance

        Originally Posted by jondavidson View Post

        Hi Karen,
        >>> Try this first <<< and >>> This <<<
        You can get good info from
        the Ezine home page by doing a search
        on the keyword you're looking for.

        Good Luck.

        Until Next Time.
        Good advice Jon!

        Originally Posted by DeanJames View Post

        Bryce, there definitely is. The money is in what skills you can bring to the table to increase the earnings of the site and/or change the revenue model. Also there will be disparities between marketplaces...
        Yep thought so! Check out the post above if you are interested Dean, and thanks very much for your response.
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        • Profile picture of the author ladystrange
          [quote= Never feel awkward ladystrange We are all new, or relatively new, or have been at one time! Although it may seem that everyone has a plan, let me be the first to let you know that having a plan and sticking with the plan are two entirely different things. Your plan may be as simple as to complete your first minisite, or it may be that your plan is to confirm which avenue to take to create your online income. After that, well more plans are made. You dont have to have your "success" plan completed from day one. Things evolve.

          In fact you already have a plan of sorts in the development of your social network. By sticking to the group you have decided upon, you have set down a plan. I like the sound of it too, because I know that if this sort of dedicated attention was available to me when I started, I would be a lot further ahead than I am.

          Monetizing can be achieved in many ways, but I have not yet seen your platform, so I will leave specifics until I have. I look forward to hearing more about your project.
          . [/quote]
          I guess my biggest barrier is how to appeal to people with experience in order to get them to help with content and see the value in this sort of network.

          Originally I thought of sharing the profit with subscribers and their posts via adsense. I think that adsense for social networks is out because it only takes 1 jerk to sit there and click the crap out of the ads and ruin it for everyone. I am not sure of any other program that will let you split the profits.

          The way everything is set up now Users can do anything they want with thier blog posts as far as adding advertisements backlinks etc. It is essentially a free blog platform. I do not know yet if that will evolve or stay the same.

          Honestly, I am not interested in building lists, squeeze pages, or creating info products for myself but I know it is a valid way of earning money and would love to capture the "togetherness" and helpfulness this thread has encompassed.

          Thank you for taking the intrest in my project and you are welcome to give me any suggestions.

          For now I think I will write some articles, and possibly get some ghostwriters to get the ball rolling
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          • Profile picture of the author bryce
            Originally Posted by ladystrange View Post

            I guess my biggest barrier is how to appeal to people with experience in order to get them to help with content and see the value in this sort of network.

            Originally I thought of sharing the profit with subscribers and their posts via adsense. I think that adsense for social networks is out because it only takes 1 jerk to sit there and click the crap out of the ads and ruin it for everyone. I am not sure of any other program that will let you split the profits.

            The way everything is set up now Users can do anything they want with thier blog posts as far as adding advertisements backlinks etc. It is essentially a free blog platform. I do not know yet if that will evolve or stay the same.

            Honestly, I am not interested in building lists, squeeze pages, or creating info products for myself but I know it is a valid way of earning money and would love to capture the "togetherness" and helpfulness this thread has encompassed.

            Thank you for taking the intrest in my project and you are welcome to give me any suggestions.

            For now I think I will write some articles, and possibly get some ghostwriters to get the ball rolling
            Another option would be to build the environment and charge advertisers to place 125x125 or banner ads on the site.

            I am sure there are people on this thread who would be happy to provide soe content.
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      • Profile picture of the author bryce
        Originally Posted by Sue Harrison View Post

        Hi everyone

        I think this might be my first post here - lost track of where I have been and where I have posted (forum-wise), so when I have finished I had better go back to the right thread and check whether I have said hello or not - someone mentioned information overload - definitely suffering from it here.

        I bought into a program this last week, well two actually (Jonny Andrews) and I have to say I really, really like the way he says it like it is, and the help and advice he gives, but, there is just so much of it. I think I am beginning to understand the process and then read something else which completely throws me.

        I am list-less (and listless), website-less, squeeze-less..... and on it goes. I have only ever "played around" with the likes of Facebook, Twitter etc. and am suffering very much from frustration with my own inabilities to grasp anything other than I need to build lists.

        I intend to start life out here in cyberspace as an affiliate - full stop. Now what? I've read info saying you should only choose a program/product you are familiar with and other info saying you can basically choose anything you want to become involved in - there is plenty of stuff I am interested in but does that make me qualified to create a squeeze page promoting something I possibly don't have any first-hand experience of? Do I buy a domain name and create a website (I have a bit of experience of doing this) or do I do it via a blog - arghhhh?

        I have very little cash to throw at any more things other than the real essentials such as an autoresponder (oh God, and there's another thing I just cannot get my head around - what on earth do you say in all these autoresponder messages).

        As you can see - and I apologise for the lengthy whinge - I don't think I have a bl**dy clue as to what I am supposed to be doing, but I will be damned if it is going to beat me I have every intention of making a success of this but I just seemed to have reached a crossroads with no signs to point me in the right direction. I intend to have all my credit cards paid off much sooner than it will take at the present rate, and to buy some form of transport - even a pushbike sounds a luxury at the moment

        Am I a lost cause?

        Sue
        Hello Sue, First off welcome to the thread

        Secondly, NO you are not a lost cause, far from it! A lost cause is someone who gets to where you are at now, throws their hands in the air, switches off the computer and gives it all up. I have been where you are now, and I have also been the person throwing my hands in the air

        So you are starting from a point just beyond scratch, and I say this because you mention you have some experience in domain names and websites. This is a start, and without either, your best plans will not amount to anything.

        My advice would be to take a deep breath, grab a cup of tea or coffee, and try to relax.

        If you have decided to commence online as an affiliate, that is one decision already made. There is plenty of information available on the subject, so be careful not to get confused. I have never really specialised in any affiliate programs, but I am sure that others on this thread may have, so listen for that advice I guess. I do know that a lot of affiliate programs come complete with a website and all the marketing tools you need, but i would guess that these are "mass marketed" products where you will be competing with a lot of other people for the same consumer dollar.

        Maybe have a look around CB (Click Bank) and PayDotCom, and some other sites, and get a feel for the Top 10 or so popular products and see if anything takes your fancy. I am sure that others on this thread will give some other ideas as well. Once you have chosen a niche, or area you want to deal in, then look at registering a suitable domian name, and Autoresponder. Again in relation to the messages in the Autoreseponder, some affiliate products come complete with marketing tools, and these can include pre-written AR messages that you simply copy and paste into your responder system.

        Okay enough for now, I hope this has helped slightly, and I will post more about this when I have some more ideas.
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        • Profile picture of the author Sue Harrison
          Thanks so much Bryce - I would have put one of those "thank you" things underneath your post, if I could find out how to do it - still, it only just gone 6.30 a.m. and the first coffee hasn't registeed yet!

          I think you are totally right - I need to take a very big deep breath, sit back and decide exactly what my next step is.

          I'll be watching this threat like a hawk - brilliant stuff.

          Thanks again.

          Sue
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          • Profile picture of the author Karen Connell
            Originally Posted by Sue Harrison View Post

            Thanks so much Bryce - I would have put one of those "thank you" things underneath your post, if I could find out how to do it - still, it only just gone 6.30 a.m. and the first coffee hasn't registeed yet!

            I think you are totally right - I need to take a very big deep breath, sit back and decide exactly what my next step is.

            I'll be watching this threat like a hawk - brilliant stuff.

            Thanks again.

            Sue

            Just a quick one Sue,

            To post a 'thanks' just look under each post and you will see a couple of buttons. The one on the far right is the 'thanks' one. Just click on that button under the post of the person you want to thank and 'Hey Presto' it's done!

            If you don't see those buttons you may have to have a certain number of posts first - not sure about that.

            Regards

            Karen
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  • Profile picture of the author Karen Connell
    OK, sorry folks - it's me again!

    Now I have figured out the website bit, I have another question for our experienced members.

    How do I give away a report or sell an ebook from my site. What I am asking is, how do my customers access these from my site? Where do I put the file for them to access it?

    I know this is very basic but thank you for taking the time to read this.

    Regards

    Karen

    p.s. Sue, good luck in your affiliate venture. I wish you every success. Keep us posted on your progress.
    Everyone on here is so helpful.
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    • Profile picture of the author jondavidson
      Originally Posted by Dhrousha View Post

      OK, sorry folks - it's me again!

      Now I have figured out the website bit, I have another question for our experienced members.

      How do I give away a report or sell an ebook from my site. What I am asking is, how do my customers access these from my site? Where do I put the file for them to access it?

      I know this is very basic but thank you for taking the time to read this.

      Regards

      Karen

      p.s. Sue, good luck in your affiliate venture. I wish you every success. Keep us posted on your progress.
      Everyone on here is so helpful.
      Hi Karen,
      Sorry to keep using these but there is a plethora of info that Chris Farrell has about creating, uploading, downloading ETC. on you tube.
      This one will explain (hopefully) what you are looking for.
      Until next time...
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      • Profile picture of the author Karen Connell
        Originally Posted by jondavidson View Post

        Hi Karen,
        Sorry to keep using these but there is a plethora of info that Chris Farrell has about creating, uploading, downloading ETC. on you tube.
        This one will explain (hopefully) what you are looking for.

        Until next time...
        Hi Jon,

        Thank you very much for taking the time to find this video for me. I might have to ask Chris Farrell to move in with me for a week or two as he seems to have the answers to all my questions (except, perhaps, the meaning of life!)

        I will take myself off to YouTube and watch some more just in case he can't make it over to Ireland any time soon. LOL

        Thanks again

        Karen
        p.s. Yep, I'm almost sure they'll be a next time...
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        • Profile picture of the author jondavidson
          Originally Posted by Dhrousha View Post

          Hi Jon,

          Thank you very much for taking the time to find this video for me. I might have to ask Chris Farrell to move in with me for a week or two as he seems to have the answers to all my questions (except, perhaps, the meaning of life!)

          I will take myself off to YouTube and watch some more just in case he can't make it over to Ireland any time soon. LOL

          Thanks again

          Karen
          p.s. Yep, I'm almost sure they'll be a next time...
          Hi Karen,
          As I was cleaning up some files this weekend I ran across this and thought it might be of some help to you.. >>> Here <<< Is another (in Print) instruction of "how to" on the ebook issue you were having.

          Are you having any success with Chris Farrell's tutorials? I found them to be very informative when I was looking around for some of the same answers.

          You Tube is a great resource. Just type in the search term and watch.

          Everyone should utilize it to their advantage...The best part is...
          For all of us newbies...uh or "Novices" (great term) IT'S FREE!
          Everyone likes free stuff.

          Hope you got the info you need.

          Until next time.
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          • Profile picture of the author Karen Connell
            Originally Posted by jondavidson View Post

            Hi Karen,
            As I was cleaning up some files this weekend I ran across this and thought it might be of some help to you.. >>> Here <<< Is another (in Print) instruction of "how to" on the ebook issue you were having.

            Are you having any success with Chris Farrell's tutorials? I found them to be very informative when I was looking around for some of the same answers.

            You Tube is a great resource. Just type in the search term and watch.

            Everyone should utilize it to their advantage...The best part is...
            For all of us newbies...uh or "Novices" (great term) IT'S FREE!
            Everyone likes free stuff.

            Hope you got the info you need.

            Until next time.

            Hi Jon,

            Another great resource - checked out some of the other articles whilst I was there - lots of solid information,

            Thanks - again!

            Karen
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      • Profile picture of the author jondavidson
        Originally Posted by codepoint786 View Post

        Chris Farrell is the real god !

        nice work jon
        Thank you Codepoint,

        He does have some fantastic videos and other stuff doesn't he.
        I always try to help others out when I can.
        That's what it's all about...How To Become Successful!

        Why struggle if you can ask a few questions and get quick replies.

        Bryce & Dave really out did themselves by starting this thread. (Nice Job Guys).

        I do believe that this will soon become one of the greatest resource threads online...it's already headed in that direction... It's not about outdoing one another, it's about common ground...don't you think?
        Any way...keep askin and keep on postin.

        Later,
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        • Profile picture of the author spacemonkee2010
          Hey all, I hope everybody's doing good out there today. We're working away here at The Marketing Madmen House. I'm working on getting one of our websites built, and Brad's in there doing keyword research on them.

          I'm curious about whether anyone out there has used any of the search engine submission services out there that claim to submit your site to 20 search engines or so? Any feedback would be appreciated.
          Thanks,
          Justin
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          • Profile picture of the author David Chamberlain
            Hi Justin

            Personally, I'd rather the search engines found me!

            I have an e-book on how to get indexed in 20 mins...

            Usually you have to opt in to get it, but I'll let you guys grab a free copy!

            Hope this helps!

            Oh...and a quick update. I should be releasing my first product pretty soon, it's a method I've used over the last couple of months to make some quick cash.

            Also, I'm currently beta testing a new product which helps you build your list, I got about 25 subscribers in a week, and this thing is still in BETA mode. I think it is a product we can all use, you just need to have a website!

            Is there anything else anyone needs help with? I'm always happy to jump on Skype and talk people through things!
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            • Profile picture of the author spacemonkee2010
              David,
              Thanks so much for the free e-book. I just finished reading over it and got something useful out of it. I didn't know about pinging a website. As for the social bookmarking, we've done just a little bit that. We were actually going to use socialmarker.com, but found the setup very tedious and time consuming and decided that we could just with the top three or four social bookmarking sites out there.

              We had a real breakthrough last night and got our other roommate's website up on the front page of google, through a cheap adwords campaign. Ah to see the fruit of your labor is a very satisfying feeling indeed!

              Like most of us, we've been trudging through it all on faith that we HAD to be absorbing something, and then last night we got that. We haven't gotten any hits on it yet, but its truly a niche market that's local to a 75 mile radius. We're figuring it should have a decent conversion ratio.

              Hope everyone's having a great day our there and keepin on, keepin on!!!
              Thanks again David,
              Justin
              The Marketing Madmen
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            • Profile picture of the author jondavidson
              Originally Posted by David Chamberlain View Post

              Hi Justin

              Personally, I'd rather the search engines found me!

              I have an e-book on how to get indexed in 20 mins...

              Usually you have to opt in to get it, but I'll let you guys grab a free copy!

              Hope this helps!

              Oh...and a quick update. I should be releasing my first product pretty soon, it's a method I've used over the last couple of months to make some quick cash.

              Also, I'm currently beta testing a new product which helps you build your list, I got about 25 subscribers in a week, and this thing is still in BETA mode. I think it is a product we can all use, you just need to have a website!

              Is there anything else anyone needs help with? I'm always happy to jump on Skype and talk people through things!
              Thanks Dave for the Info in the Ebook.
              I'll put some of it to good use.

              And hey Justin,
              Another is Pingoat... >>>Here <<< is a link to ping your site.
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        • Profile picture of the author bryce
          Originally Posted by jondavidson View Post

          Thank you Codepoint,

          He does have some fantastic videos and other stuff doesn't he.
          I always try to help others out when I can.
          That's what it's all about...How To Become Successful!

          Why struggle if you can ask a few questions and get quick replies.

          Bryce & Dave really out did themselves by starting this thread. (Nice Job Guys).

          I do believe that this will soon become one of the greatest resource threads online...it's already headed in that direction... It's not about outdoing one another, it's about common ground...don't you think?
          Any way...keep askin and keep on postin.

          Later,
          Thanks Jon, props to Dave, and everyone who has contributed thus far. Now it is time to pull out the stops. I just reminded myself today that we are about to head into the 2nd half of the year, and I am going to risk what reputation I have by saying that "I believe everyone here could do with a Christmas beyond all Christmas's this year" - Am I right?

          Well lets get down to the business end, and get things happening for all of us.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sue Harrison
    Hi Karen

    You are asking the very same question I need an answer to, re where the heck you put these free books - just looking at a squeeze page thing to get people to the site initially - and then what? lol Thank goodness for people like you and everyone else on here.

    I don't seem to have a "thank you button" so I think you are right about the number of posts - I'm sure I will soon pass the required number, given the amount of times I will be shouting "help"

    Sue
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    • Profile picture of the author Karen Connell
      Hi Sue,

      The 'thanks' button doesn't appear under YOUR posts - it appears under all the other posts. You just select the post of the person you wish to thank and click on the 'thanks' button under their post.

      Have a good and productive day.

      Regards

      Karen
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  • Profile picture of the author Sue Harrison
    Thanks again Karen but nope, still can't see one - just "Quote", "Multiquote" and "Quick Reply". Going out in about an hour to do a morning's work for someone else - will give my poor old brain a chance to recover - crikey, if I'd studied this hard at school all those years ago, I would have got straight A's in every subject lol.

    Have a good day.

    Sue
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    • Profile picture of the author bryce
      Originally Posted by Sue Harrison View Post

      Thanks so much Bryce - I would have put one of those "thank you" things underneath your post, if I could find out how to do it - still, it only just gone 6.30 a.m. and the first coffee hasn't registeed yet!

      I think you are totally right - I need to take a very big deep breath, sit back and decide exactly what my next step is.

      I'll be watching this threat like a hawk - brilliant stuff.

      Thanks again.

      Sue
      Hey there Sue, you are more than welcome my friend! OMG I can so totally relate to the "first coffee" thing, lol. My son used to stay away from me for the first hour of each morning, and he would warn his mates too when they stayed over, rofl! Man I loved those days.......

      Take that well earned breather and decide how you are going to bring the internet to its knees

      Originally Posted by Dhrousha View Post

      OK, sorry folks - it's me again!

      Now I have figured out the website bit, I have another question for our experienced members.

      How do I give away a report or sell an ebook from my site. What I am asking is, how do my customers access these from my site? Where do I put the file for them to access it?

      I know this is very basic but thank you for taking the time to read this.

      Regards

      Karen

      p.s. Sue, good luck in your affiliate venture. I wish you every success. Keep us posted on your progress.
      Everyone on here is so helpful.
      Hi Karen, all great questions and ones that I battled with for a long time. You know whats amazing..... is that if you ask 100 "self proclaimed gurus" that question, you will get 100 different answers! Then if you put all the answers together you may learn how to send an email :rolleyes:

      Anyway in regard to your query...... There are a couple of ways this can be done. If you are using an AR (Auto Responder) system, you can add a link to one of your follow up messages, or attach the file. If you add a link, the file you are offering will need to be hosted on your server or another hosting server online.

      I have just redone my Scmwatcher site today, as I am lowering the price and getting ready to start the next version of the book. If you take a look at www.scamwatcher.info you will see that I offer a FREE sample of the product, via the pop up capture box. This is designed and provided through Aweber, so what happens is when a person fills in their details in that form, my Auto Responder will collect the data and send out an "opt in" email. The subscriber then confirms that subscription, and the autoresponder is programmed to then automatically send message 2, which is the Thankyou email, containing an attachment of the sample pdf ebook.

      With the book itself, I have it hosted on my server in a protected directory. When a person pays for the book via paypal or clickbank, the payment system automatically returns the buyer to my thankyou page, where they see the "Download" button. This download button is nothing more than a graphic, and I have added a link to it, so that when it is clicked, it calls up the ebook from the server. The buyer then has the option to do whatever they want with the book, save it, print it, etc.

      Karen this may sound complicated, but it isnt really. I will leave it at that for now, but be sure to shoot other questions through if you need to.


      Originally Posted by Sue Harrison View Post

      Hi Karen

      You are asking the very same question I need an answer to, re where the heck you put these free books - just looking at a squeeze page thing to get people to the site initially - and then what? lol Thank goodness for people like you and everyone else on here.

      I don't seem to have a "thank you button" so I think you are right about the number of posts - I'm sure I will soon pass the required number, given the amount of times I will be shouting "help"

      Sue
      Hey Sue,

      Check out the reply to Karen above for details on your free books, etc. There are other options, but I didnt want to put too much information in there in one hit
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      • Profile picture of the author Marc Jager
        HEY GUYS!!

        I haven't kept up completely with this thread, but since it's been a month now, I thought I'd post what's been happening for me....

        If you don't recall my post on page 2 of this thread, here it is below in red(between the dashed lines):

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        Good stuff, this thread. Subscribing to it now : )
        I'm a newbie too - Introduced myself at I'm new, Hello everyone!

        Dave, you said you spent $310.79 setting up a website. I hope that was due to paying someone to design it or some such and not hosting...
        For all newbies; please realise you can get hosting for around $13US (I've heard you can get even cheaper but probably without some of the tools that you get when you pay more)

        Anywho, I want to share who I get my domain names and hosting with, and yes, I have made them an affiliate ; )
        I've been using them for years and I love how it's all done online, I love how cheap it is and I love all the tools in their 'C-panel'. Something like $12us to register a .com and $13US for a year's hosting.
        They are 3iX.org

        Anywhoo, I hope to learn a lot from this thread as well as the whole forum.

        Since I'm starting out, I'll share my plan so if I fall on my face or if I succeed, we newbies will all be able to see and learn from my ventures.

        TEH BASIC PLAN:
        (1) Build 5 niche websites (actually I have 1 started already, so I'll be creating 4 new ones)
        Ideas: * Diet/weight-loss * Innovation/Invention (I have already written a short e-book entitled 'The Secret to Innovation') * General Health and Lifestyle
        * The site I already have (superchlorophyll.com - recently expired so i just have to re-upload it) * Emplyment/Self-Emplyment.
        -On each site I intend to provide free information and sell clickbank affiliate products related to the site.
        - Each site will help drive traffic to the others and to my blog.
        - Some, if not all will sell my own eBook or info-video.
        - Allow Adsense ads on the sites
        (2) Start a health and lifestyle blog with my own unique twist.
        - I understand this would be used to build an e-mail list.
        - I also plan to link my 5 websites to this blog.
        - I also plan to sell affilate products on this blog.
        <This is what I'll need the most help with - I'm unfamiliar with using and managing an e-mail list - the whole Aweber and GetResponse thing... >

        (3) Package/prepare my eBook for sale
        (I have an eBook/essay type thing entitled 'The Secret to Innovation')
        - I could give this away for free for e-mail gathering
        - I could sell it...
        - It would link to my websites and blogg.

        (4) Create several 'how to' videos - E.g. How to Innovate video (from my eBook), or 'How to Play a Ranger in Age of Conan'.
        - Each video points people back to websites or blogg.

        (5) Learn/experiment with Adwords (I won't do this for a long time and not untill I've had success with the basics above)
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        So, what has happened since then?

        I realise I approached the whole IM thing WRONG!!!

        Can you spot where/what?

        First of all, now I look at my strategy above, it's obvious I'm trying too much all at once.
        After a month, i have 3 un-finished websites, instead of one finished one which could be gathering subscribers/selling products.

        Second mistake is starting out seeing and expecting $$$$.

        AS A NEWB YOU FIRST GOAL SHOULD BE TO BUILD A LIST!

        You shouldn't be thinking of how to sell or how much money to charge.
        You should be thinking, 'How can I build a list of loyal and targeted subscribers?'
        (The answer, btw, is to make a great site which gives away qulaity content and/or products for free in exchange for opt-in (subscription))

        So, that's where I'm at now - I'm going to stop trying to do all of the things listed in red and focus just on making ONE of the sites, the best in it's niche and offering loads of info and products for FREE in order to gain a list of subscribers!

        VIVA LE LIST!!

        Good luck fellow newbs!
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        • Profile picture of the author bryce
          Good luck Marc!
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          • Profile picture of the author bryce
            Hi everyone, I thought I would pop in today... Its cold and windy and a great day to be inside next to the crackling fire, and getting stuck into the wonderful world of making money online.

            I thought I would let everyone know that I have uploaded a series of audio files onto the NN community, regarding one of the "Area 51" projects. The project should be able to be implemented quickly, and I think the time is right. So..... interested in participating, well as you will already know, you need to be there, and you need to also be on the Planners group.

            The next series of audios will deal with the 2nd of the projects, and I will also be putting the word out for some sort of 'leadership' structure.

            It is great to see this thread has provided so much to people who are just getting their online activities happening, and what has resulted thus far, is a safe no-BS, and no pressure environment for everyone who wants to, the opportunity to thrive online.

            I have no idea what constitutes a "Hot Topic" on this site anymore, but I am surprised this thread has not achieved that status. Oh well - who cares I guess, we all know who we are, right
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            • Profile picture of the author ejmjs
              HAPPY BIRTHDAY BRYCE!!!
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              • Profile picture of the author bryce
                Originally Posted by ejmjs View Post

                HAPPY BIRTHDAY BRYCE!!!
                Thankyou my good friend! I really appreciate your birthday wishes
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                • Profile picture of the author ejmjs
                  Originally Posted by bryce View Post

                  Thankyou my good friend! I really appreciate your birthday wishes
                  Your welcome mate!
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    • Profile picture of the author Karen Connell
      Originally Posted by Sue Harrison View Post

      Thanks again Karen but nope, still can't see one - just "Quote", "Multiquote" and "Quick Reply". Going out in about an hour to do a morning's work for someone else - will give my poor old brain a chance to recover - crikey, if I'd studied this hard at school all those years ago, I would have got straight A's in every subject lol.

      Have a good day.

      Sue
      Hi again Sue,

      I see you've found the 'Thanks' button now! LOL.

      I'm an Honours Degree Graduate at 'question asking' now. LOL

      Regards

      Karen
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  • Profile picture of the author studio52
    We as newbies, have all gone through the mill trying to get the "code" that works.

    One of the most overlooked areas in my humble opinion,because I struggle with this myself, is that with all the marketing and listbuilding and programs and on and on, one of the hardest to find details on the internet is, how to do certain thing..like do a search on How to rebrand an ebook and resell or give it away....hundresds of examples come up on how to brand an ebook you create, but very little if nothing on how to RE brand an ebook...I know this sound stupid to those that are proficient at rebranding, but seriously...If someone is new, and downloaded hundresd of ebooks, no one teaches or shows you the steps on how to rebrand and use them wisely. Some of the rebranders that come with the ebooks dont have any instructions, and difficult boxes in the form to fill out...

    A complete ebook on how to brand, and rebrand and what software you need would be very helpful to new IM ers.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sue Harrison
    Hi Karen

    Yes, it just appeared so must have been after 3-5 posts - thought I was going mad earlier lol

    Sue
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  • Profile picture of the author Hasan Barbary
    I've been following this thread for awhile; it's a refreshing break from the "dog-eat-dog" vibe that is often present in other places on WF.

    I, too, have recently started my own membership site, and I'm very proud of my small but growing sub list.

    Thanks, David, for starting this discussion.

    p.s. maybe we need a nomenclature makeover? I've never liked the word "newbie"... and "noob" is overtly offensive. I'm sure many folks who are technically new to this forum have had entire CAREERS before they came here. (I was a long-suffering IT consultant, myself). May I suggest the word; "Novice", as a substitute?

    Heck, I might even start new website around this niche: "N3 = Novice Not Noob"!
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    • Profile picture of the author Karen Connell
      Originally Posted by Hasan Barbary View Post

      I've been following this thread for awhile; it's a refreshing break from the "dog-eat-dog" vibe that is often present in other places on WF.

      I, too, have recently started my own membership site, and I'm very proud of my small but growing sub list.

      Thanks, David, for starting this discussion.

      p.s. maybe we need a nomenclature makeover? I've never liked the word "newbie"... and "noob" is overtly offensive. I'm sure many folks who are technically new to this forum have had entire CAREERS before they came here. (I was a long-suffering IT consultant, myself). May I suggest the word; "Novice", as a substitute?

      Heck, I might even start new website around this niche: "N3 = Novice Not Noob"!
      Hi Hassan,

      I, too, am very grateful to everyone on this thread who have answered my very basic questions in a very professional manner - no patronising or smart mouth comments - just excellent very helpful answers!

      I like the idea of being a 'Novice' rather than a Newbie. Sound much better but the tag won't apply to me soon... LOL

      Good Luck with your Membership Site may it go from strength to strength!

      Regards

      Karen
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  • Profile picture of the author Sue Harrison
    Could you send Chris Farrell over to me in Menorca when you've finished with him Karen - my internet has been so slow today and his videos were taking toooooo long to load, and my brain hurts!

    I thought I had a plan almost formulated, then got side-tracked yet a flippin gain and now back to confused. I have no spare cash at all at the moment, except for the autoresponder, if really necessary at this stage.

    I decided (before I got side-tracked) that I would just go ahead and join the affiliate program of the program I bought into (as I do think it is very good and the guy who has created it is very down to earth).

    So plan was:

    1. Use squeeze page template provided (and adapted accordingly).
    2. Get autoresponder and set it up with emails provided.
    3. Decide on domain name, buy it, get hosting and upload squeeze page.
    THE END

    Apart from posting on various forums, blogs etc. I have now hit a brick wall again and am not sure if the above is a total waste of time, or a move in the right direction. I don't have any list at the moment so the above is an attempt to at least start to acquire one, and to hopefully start the ball rolling re income generation.

    Then I remember things such as "keyword research", "bio box" - what the hell is that?.

    Thank God the wine is so cheap over here

    Sue
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    • Profile picture of the author Karen Connell
      Originally Posted by Sue Harrison View Post

      Could you send Chris Farrell over to me in Menorca when you've finished with him Karen - my internet has been so slow today and his videos were taking toooooo long to load, and my brain hurts!

      I thought I had a plan almost formulated, then got side-tracked yet a flippin gain and now back to confused. I have no spare cash at all at the moment, except for the autoresponder, if really necessary at this stage.

      I decided (before I got side-tracked) that I would just go ahead and join the affiliate program of the program I bought into (as I do think it is very good and the guy who has created it is very down to earth).

      So plan was:

      1. Use squeeze page template provided (and adapted accordingly).
      2. Get autoresponder and set it up with emails provided.
      3. Decide on domain name, buy it, get hosting and upload squeeze page.
      THE END

      Apart from posting on various forums, blogs etc. I have now hit a brick wall again and am not sure if the above is a total waste of time, or a move in the right direction. I don't have any list at the moment so the above is an attempt to at least start to acquire one, and to hopefully start the ball rolling re income generation.

      Then I remember things such as "keyword research", "bio box" - what the hell is that?.

      Thank God the wine is so cheap over here

      Sue
      Hi Sue,

      Doing Something is always a step in the right direction. At least you've made a start.

      I'm sure one of our seasoned Warriors will be able to advise you a simple way to attract the (sometimes elusive) traffic.

      Lots of luck - and don't give up!

      Karen
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      • Profile picture of the author Hasan Barbary
        @ Karen ~ Thanks for the encouragement!

        @ Sue ~ In the spirit of sharing that this thread exemplifies, I'll share with you my "shoe-string budget" approach to list-building & traffic generation... with NO affiliate links attached : )

        1) Autoresponder: this is essential, but it doesn't HAVE to be Aweber or GetResponse. TrafficWave has a very legit service AND you can use it free for 30 days. Brian Rooney, the owner, has posted on this forum many times. I use TRWV because of the great compensation plan, myself.
        2) Traffic Exchanges: I know, LOTS of folks here look down their nose at TE's; but I bet most of them don't understand the concept of a "splash page". If you have more time than money, surfing TE's can bring 1,000+ visitors a day to your site ~ for FREE.
        I get sales & signups regularly from them.

        Just my 2 cents.

        Remember to breathe deeply, and don't get bogged down in "Analysis Paralysis". Like Karen said, doing something is better than trying to learn everything.

        Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author Sue Harrison
    Thanks Karen - I have no intention at all of giving up I'm not putting myself through this huge learning curve, just to throw the towel in - I might kick the odd cat that passes by, but give up - NEVER
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  • Profile picture of the author spacemonkee2010
    Alright another newbie here who just found this thread tonight. So aside from the odd phone call or two and stopping to eat something, I've sat here and read through the entire thread. I was inspired all the way through it with ideas and what we could all accomplish working together.

    Bryce, you're doing a wonderful job here as are all of you. I feel such a great sense of community in this thread. David, I'm like you and can relate to some of your posts. I've had amazing ideas all my life...getting them implemented is another thing. I think big too. I've made a couple of half-assed attempts at internet marketing in the past, but I'm to a point where I'm tired of trying. Its time to do.

    My roommate (and very close friend)bought the profit lance course a few months back. We sat down and had a talk one night for awhile about really focusing and working on this. We had that conversation after we'd watched the movie "The Secret." If any of you haven't seen that, it will do wonders for your way of thinking.

    So we've been studying for about three weeks now. We have one adsense site up that came with the course with some. Just with viral marketing, telling our friends about it and telling them what we were doing, we made $14 I know its inflated, but still encouraging to see SOMETHING in your acct.

    I won't get too long winded here, but I will be sharing on this forum as often as I can. I think that this maybe the most valuable resource that I've found on the internet. David and Bryce, I know you guys are working on the lounge. Something you might want to consider is putting a chatroom on there. We're all sitting around banging away on the keyboard anyway. A chatroom would be a fantastic resource and I'm sure you all can see all the reasons why. This could turn into a community that could make us all wealthy and free and should be nurtured.

    I'll probably be back posting tonight on something or another...I just want to say that its good to meet everyone and I look forward to getting to know all of you better and watch us all build our businesses together.
    Justin
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    • Profile picture of the author jondavidson
      Originally Posted by spacemonkee2010 View Post

      Alright another newbie here who just found this thread tonight. So aside from the odd phone call or two and stopping to eat something, I've sat here and read through the entire thread. I was inspired all the way through it with ideas and what we could all accomplish working together.

      Bryce, you're doing a wonderful job here as are all of you. I feel such a great sense of community in this thread. David, I'm like you and can relate to some of your posts. I've had amazing ideas all my life...getting them implemented is another thing. I think big too. I've made a couple of half-assed attempts at internet marketing in the past, but I'm to a point where I'm tired of trying. Its time to do.

      My roommate (and very close friend)bought the profit lance course a few months back. We sat down and had a talk one night for awhile about really focusing and working on this. We had that conversation after we'd watched the movie "The Secret." If any of you haven't seen that, it will do wonders for your way of thinking.

      So we've been studying for about three weeks now. We have one adsense site up that came with the course with some. Just with viral marketing, telling our friends about it and telling them what we were doing, we made $14 I know its inflated, but still encouraging to see SOMETHING in your acct.

      I won't get too long winded here, but I will be sharing on this forum as often as I can. I think that this maybe the most valuable resource that I've found on the internet. David and Bryce, I know you guys are working on the lounge. Something you might want to consider is putting a chatroom on there. We're all sitting around banging away on the keyboard anyway. A chatroom would be a fantastic resource and I'm sure you all can see all the reasons why. This could turn into a community that could make us all wealthy and free and should be nurtured.

      I'll probably be back posting tonight on something or another...I just want to say that its good to meet everyone and I look forward to getting to know all of you better and watch us all build our businesses together.
      Justin
      Welcome Justin,

      Stick with it and don't give up.
      Sounds like you are off and running.
      Congrats! Doing something is much better
      than sitting around waiting for it to happen.
      (cause it never will)
      There is a great deal of info going to be coming
      your way on this thread..I can promise you that!
      This is where the "rubber meets the road" so-to-speak
      and with all of the motivation here, it's not going to stop...
      The momentum just keeps on goin!~

      Later.
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      • Profile picture of the author spacemonkee2010
        Yep, the rubber meets the road and we're gaining some traction. As we get closer to the weekend, I'll post our ambitions and how we're going to get there. We have a plan, but would definitely like to hear some feedback. I just don't want to put it out there too quickly (I'm a little paranoid with putting too many of my ideas out there until they're just about ready).

        A plan is KEY to gaining success. What's we've done is basically written a goal that's about half a page long. When I get up in the morning and before I go to bed at night, I meditate on it, reciting it anywhere up to 10 times. This has been a great motivator and serves to get you very focused.
        Justin
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      • Profile picture of the author bryce
        Originally Posted by jondavidson View Post

        Welcome Justin,

        Stick with it and don't give up.
        Sounds like you are off and running.
        Congrats! Doing something is much better
        than sitting around waiting for it to happen.
        (cause it never will)
        There is a great deal of info going to be coming
        your way on this thread..I can promise you that!
        This is where the "rubber meets the road" so-to-speak
        and with all of the motivation here, it's not going to stop...
        The momentum just keeps on goin!~

        Later.
        Right on Jon, right on
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    • Profile picture of the author bryce
      Originally Posted by spacemonkee2010 View Post

      Alright another newbie here who just found this thread tonight. So aside from the odd phone call or two and stopping to eat something, I've sat here and read through the entire thread. I was inspired all the way through it with ideas and what we could all accomplish working together.
      Hi Spacemonkee, and welcome to our little corner of the world I hope the thread did not give you any info overload, and didnt distract you from anything important

      Bryce, you're doing a wonderful job here as are all of you. I feel such a great sense of community in this thread. David, I'm like you and can relate to some of your posts. I've had amazing ideas all my life...getting them implemented is another thing. I think big too. I've made a couple of half-assed attempts at internet marketing in the past, but I'm to a point where I'm tired of trying. Its time to do.
      Thanks buddy, I appreciate it! Dave had an idea for a thread and now that thread has grown to 5 pages, and still we are atrracting new people (novices, lol) to the conversation. It is cool!! I can relate first hand to the "ideas syndrome" - I still suffer from it every day. In fact watch this space, because I am sick and tired of harbouring them. I am about to set up the "Think Tank" and everyone is invited

      I won't get too long winded here, but I will be sharing on this forum as often as I can. I think that this maybe the most valuable resource that I've found on the internet. David and Bryce, I know you guys are working on the lounge. Something you might want to consider is putting a chatroom on there. We're all sitting around banging away on the keyboard anyway. A chatroom would be a fantastic resource and I'm sure you all can see all the reasons why. This could turn into a community that could make us all wealthy and free and should be nurtured.
      In fact I have been slack about communicating The Lounge, and I deserve a big smack on the ...... (wrist) for that! I have been very busy promoting a young musician from my home land, and have just completed the finishing touches on his 35th website/page, phew! Now I have some time to devote to my other business, this business. The chat room is an interesting idea, although from previous experience, there is usually issues with global time lines. However this can be overcome, and I would be happy to look at it as a means of effective communication. I will talk about this with Dave, and a couple of others.

      I'll probably be back posting tonight on something or another...I just want to say that its good to meet everyone and I look forward to getting to know all of you better and watch us all build our businesses together.
      Justin
      Nice to meet u2 Justin, and again, Welcome!
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  • Profile picture of the author Sue Harrison
    Hi everyone

    Not sure where the right place to post this is, so thought I would try here first.

    After yet more time reading, watching, absorbing etc. I realised it was high time I actually started to do something constructive so off I jumped into Squidoo - arghhh

    I've started my lens but then, after looking all over the help forums, FAQ etc. realised that I need to know some html coding in order to format stuff as I would like it to appear, and for it to work properly. It doesn't seem to even have the basic text editor which is available on here.

    Am I wrong?

    If this is the case, I really don't have the time, or inclination if I am honest, to start learning all that stuff, on top of everything else I am trying to take on board.

    I do have a bit of experience with Wordpress blogs - would this be the better route to go down? I need to add affiliate links, as well as links to a couple of websites I already have but when I look at other people's lenses they seem to be able to add all sorts of images, links etc.

    Am I missing something (and the answer is more than likely yes):confused:

    Thank you, and sorry to constantly be so demanding of your help - I will return it just as soon as I can.

    Sue
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    • Profile picture of the author jondavidson
      Originally Posted by Sue Harrison View Post

      Hi everyone

      Not sure where the right place to post this is, so thought I would try here first.

      After yet more time reading, watching, absorbing etc. I realised it was high time I actually started to do something constructive so off I jumped into Squidoo - arghhh

      I've started my lens but then, after looking all over the help forums, FAQ etc. realised that I need to know some html coding in order to format stuff as I would like it to appear, and for it to work properly. It doesn't seem to even have the basic text editor which is available on here.

      Am I wrong?

      If this is the case, I really don't have the time, or inclination if I am honest, to start learning all that stuff, on top of everything else I am trying to take on board.

      I do have a bit of experience with Wordpress blogs - would this be the better route to go down? I need to add affiliate links, as well as links to a couple of websites I already have but when I look at other people's lenses they seem to be able to add all sorts of images, links etc.

      Am I missing something (and the answer is more than likely yes):confused:

      Thank you, and sorry to constantly be so demanding of your help - I will return it just as soon as I can.

      Sue

      Hey Sue,

      I know it can be frustrating at first but hang in there.

      What exactly is it you need help on...what part of the lens?
      I have created a few lenses so maybe I can be of service.
      Most of what I have done is write, copy and paste... but there has
      been some html as I recall.

      Here is one of the lenses I created.
      After reviewing it the only thing I see in it is
      like a <a href="http://www.wealthandmoneyonline.com/">Here!</a>
      Is this what you are looking to do? This will provide the word
      "Here" with the link to my website.




      Let us know.



      Later..
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  • Profile picture of the author billythekid
    Cheers Hasan, Im gonna try TW and report my findings here.
    Always looking for new ways to get more traffic to my site.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sue Harrison
    Hi Jon

    Thanks for your offer of help.

    It is really basic stuff that I am stuck with - how can you change the font, colour, position etc. I've managed to make a couple of links to sites I already have "live" (eventually) but to be honest, I really don't want to have to spend the time researching all this html stuff, unless that is absolutely the only way to do it.

    I have spent so much time the last 2 weeks learning, re-learning, watching, re-watching, getting more and more confused (information overload) that when I finally decide to take the plunge and do something, which I thought would be fairly simple, I discover that I now need to start learning basic html just to put something in bold, or change the colour/position etc.

    At least Wordpress gives you a format box thing, like on here

    Maybe I should just go and lie down with a good book for an hour or two and start again tomorrow lol - it is 8 p.m. here and I have been at it since 6.30 this morning

    Sue
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    • Profile picture of the author jondavidson
      Originally Posted by Sue Harrison View Post

      Hi Jon

      Thanks for your offer of help.

      It is really basic stuff that I am stuck with - how can you change the font, colour, position etc. I've managed to make a couple of links to sites I already have "live" (eventually) but to be honest, I really don't want to have to spend the time researching all this html stuff, unless that is absolutely the only way to do it.

      I have spent so much time the last 2 weeks learning, re-learning, watching, re-watching, getting more and more confused (information overload) that when I finally decide to take the plunge and do something, which I thought would be fairly simple, I discover that I now need to start learning basic html just to put something in bold, or change the colour/position etc.

      At least Wordpress gives you a format box thing, like on here

      Maybe I should just go and lie down with a good book for an hour or two and start again tomorrow lol - it is 8 p.m. here and I have been at it since 6.30 this morning

      Sue
      Sue,
      Here's some stuff I got a while back...
      see if this works for you...

      · How To Make A URL/Website Address "Linkable":

      This:
      <a href="http://EzineArticles.com/">http://EzineArticles.com/</a> will create this: EzineArticles Submission - Submit Your Best Quality Original Articles For Massive Exposure, Ezine Publishers Get 25 Free Article Reprints

      Just substitute your website address from the above code and now you know how to "link" up a website address. Some like to create anchor text links. *** (This Is A Biggie) Here is the code to create links out of keywords:
      <a href="http://EzineArticles.com/">Ezine Articles</a> will create this: Ezine Articles

      One Note: Use anchor text links *sparingly* when submitting articles to directories as some have limitations on the number of times the same URL can be linked up. For example, with EzineArticles.com, you are only allowed to have one URL in a given article that is the same and your article could be rejected if you have two links to the same URL regardless as to whether you linked it up like the first and/or second example above.
      · How To Make Your Email Address "Linkable":

      This:
      <a href="mailto:youraddress@your-domain-name.tld">youraddress@your-domain-name.tld</a> will create this: youraddress@your-domain-name.tld

      One Note: It is never a good idea to put your email address in your article because your email address will get harvested by spammers who use web email extractor bots to scour the Internet. Better to put a link to your contact information if you must.

      Here is some Basic HTML.

      · How To Make Something BOLD:

      This:
      <b>Make my words bold</b> will create this: Make my words bold
      · How To Make Something ITALICS:

      This:
      <i>Make my words italics</i> will create this: Make my words italics
      · How To Make Something UNDERLINED:

      This:
      <u>Make my words underlined</u> will create this: Make my words underlined
      · How To Make A Bullet Point List:

      This:
      <ul><li>First bullet</li><li>Second bullet</li><li>Third bullet</li></ul> will create this:
      • First bullet
      • Second bullet
      • Third bullet

      · How To Make A Numbered List:

      This:
      <ol><li>First point</li><li>Second point</li><li>Third point</li></ol> will create this:
      1. First point
      2. Second point
      3. Third point



      Yes, you will need to have some basic knowledge....but...
      in the words of me..."Failure is NOT an option"


      Until Later
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  • Profile picture of the author Sue Harrison
    Thanks Jon - that is very much what I needed
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    • Profile picture of the author michael074
      Hi Sue,

      If you look in my signature box, you will find a link to a free eBook that will take you step by step through the whole process of building your first website. It's a really good and basic guide.

      Mike.
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      • Profile picture of the author spacemonkee2010
        Hey everyone, just wanted to give an update. The Marketing Madmen had a great day today and got a lot of things accomplished. We jumped over a few hurdles that we're very happy about. I'll be posting more in the morning. It's 1:30 AM here and I'm going to bed. I just wanted to say this before I did though.
        We've been studying for awhile now and it didn't seem like we were getting anywhere. After awhile of just sticking with it though, some things started coming together. And once one started coming together, you gain some confidence and some momentum and then others start coming together too.
        We've got a ton of information that we have to go through and it bogs you down sometimes, but if you just keep going, eventually some of it will start to make sense and once it does, it starts snowballing.
        So everyone out there who's frustrated and tired and cross-eyed and confused...just keep going! Once you read it enough times, you'll start to get it. So put a big ol' smile on your face...remember why you started this in the first place...renew your vows to yourself and KEEP ON GOING!
        Peace and Prosperity to every one of you,
        Justin
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  • Profile picture of the author Marc Jager
    Hi to all the people who have joined this thread since my last post : )

    Just wanted to add a couple of points:
    (1) If you've read my plan (above) and are wondering what I'm up to - i have created a couple of sites already but am putting MY plans on the back-burner for a bit to follow a plan I bought here from Jeremy Kelsall (this page )
    It seems like a really solid and pretty simple plan which i really like the look/feel of, plus it has given me many new ideas along similar lines. I recommend it (it suits 'Novices' *grins at hasan* because you don't have to have a lot of back ground and high-end IM knowledge).
    So, I'll be doing Jeremy's plan and following slower up behind, with my own plans as stated earlier in this thread.

    (2) I notice a lot of people here who are not just 'Novices' to IM, but to websites in general (domain names, hosting, FTP etc).
    I have been using a host called 3iX.org and they are very cheap and have all the C-Panel bits and pieces. I recommend them because they are so cheap. I have all my domain names through them and all my hosting too.

    @ Jason aka spacemonkee2010 - I have used www.ineedhits.com.au (not sure these days but they started as a husband and wife team) and they do SEO and traffic generation. Worked for me a few years ago (back when i didn't follow through with my grand plans). Definately worth checking out.
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  • Profile picture of the author ejmjs
    Hi there veveryone.
    I came across this thread and it's a great to see. I am very new to this whole IM scene myself. I have spent a fortune in the past though trying all the so called wealth generating systems out there and products guaranteeing you to be as good as they are. Maybe some success would come out of them if I had a mialing list. I do have a list but only 1 subscriber so far lol. (no it isn't myself)
    Anyway if anyone wants to checkout my website it is TheVideoPack.com and yes I have used some teqniques on there to get websites up etc.
    Take care guys, I lokk forward to reading your other posts.
    Mark
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    • Profile picture of the author bryce
      Originally Posted by ejmjs View Post

      Hi there veveryone.
      I came across this thread and it's a great to see. I am very new to this whole IM scene myself. I have spent a fortune in the past though trying all the so called wealth generating systems out there and products guaranteeing you to be as good as they are. Maybe some success would come out of them if I had a mialing list. I do have a list but only 1 subscriber so far lol. (no it isn't myself)
      Anyway if anyone wants to checkout my website it is TheVideoPack.com and yes I have used some teqniques on there to get websites up etc.
      Take care guys, I lokk forward to reading your other posts.
      Mark

      Welcome Mark
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  • Profile picture of the author Marc Jager
    Quick 'Novice' question I want to chuck out there:

    If you are not yet successful at IM already, would it still be ok to write and sell an eBook on How to Make Money Online?

    (I ask this question because at work tonight I had a sudden surge of inspiration and the words just flowed out of me and i ended up writing half of such a book.... Now I think, well I don't want to use it because i have no business selling what I haven't yet done myself, but on the other hand, it's good information that i have learned from places just like this....)

    So, just YES, or NO
    - Is it OK to sell an IM Guide if you haven't practiced what you'd be preaching ?
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    • Profile picture of the author spacemonkee2010
      Welcome to the thread Mark. I remember when I found this thread, I sat here and read the entire thread that night and then started posting on it. It's still my favorite out of all of them. Stick around and ask questions and we'll all bounce ideas around.

      Marc, I think you're fine selling a product like that as long as you don't make outrageous claims that aren't true. We've all heard the saying before "fake it til you make it." Good luck!!!
      Justin
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      • Profile picture of the author ejmjs
        Originally Posted by spacemonkee2010 View Post

        Welcome to the thread Mark. I remember when I found this thread, I sat here and read the entire thread that night and then started posting on it. It's still my favorite out of all of them. Stick around and ask questions and we'll all bounce ideas around.

        Thank you very much! It has been very insightful so far. Thats exactly what I did. Took a while but I read it all before posting. I know that everyone here has got very small lists and the main focus of this thread is gearing towards a membership site to help newbies but I was wondering if anyone fancies promoting my website for 65% commission? It would be great if I could get a couple of sales. Obviously if theres anything I can do that will help in return I will do.
        Cheers.
        Mark
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        • Profile picture of the author spacemonkee2010
          Mark, I might be willing to talk to you about that. You want to IM me on either yahoo (spacemonkee2010) or skype (same). If nothing else we can add each other and exchange ideas.
          Justin
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        • Profile picture of the author spacemonkee2010
          Mark, I might be willing to talk to you about that. You want to IM me on either yahoo (spacemonkee2010) or skype (same). If nothing else we can add each other and exchange ideas.
          Justin
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          • Profile picture of the author ejmjs
            Hey Justin. Don't suppose you have windows messenger do you? I don't have yahoo messenger. If not I will download it. Speak soon!
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          • Profile picture of the author bryce
            Originally Posted by spacemonkee2010 View Post

            Mark, I might be willing to talk to you about that. You want to IM me on either yahoo (spacemonkee2010) or skype (same). If nothing else we can add each other and exchange ideas.
            Justin
            Hmmm it must be what I had for dinner, but I swear I have read this exact same thing in a past life
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    • Profile picture of the author bryce
      Originally Posted by Marc Jager View Post

      Quick 'Novice' question I want to chuck out there:

      If you are not yet successful at IM already, would it still be ok to write and sell an eBook on How to Make Money Online?

      (I ask this question because at work tonight I had a sudden surge of inspiration and the words just flowed out of me and i ended up writing half of such a book.... Now I think, well I don't want to use it because i have no business selling what I haven't yet done myself, but on the other hand, it's good information that i have learned from places just like this....)

      So, just YES, or NO
      - Is it OK to sell an IM Guide if you haven't practiced what you'd be preaching ?
      NO I have to add more cos the system tells me that the word "no" is too short a message, LOL. Although I agree with the concept of "fake it till you make it", I more strongly believe in "integrity" and "transparency" - In fact I often base my buying decisions on my judgement as to whether the seller has used the product and succeeded with it.
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  • Profile picture of the author anwayne
    I think building your list is very important. That's what I'm starting to do now one year into this. I should not have taken so long to start.
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    • Profile picture of the author bryce
      Originally Posted by anwayne View Post

      I think building your list is very important. That's what I'm starting to do now one year into this. I should not have taken so long to start.
      Welcome, and it is never too late to start! I didnt have a list for a year either, and I would think a lot of other people are the same.
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  • Profile picture of the author David Chamberlain
    Hi Guys,

    I notice a few people are talking about list building.

    In a few weeks, a product I am using is going live. It's called ListCrew.

    Basically, you put a piece of code on your site, and it pops up when somebody goes to any page the code is placed on. It advertises a number of peoples lists, and gives people the opportunity to subscribe.

    Now..as you are part of the network, your newsletter will be shown on many other sites, giving you more exposure.

    I posted earlier that I had had 25 subscribers in a week, that now upto 30. this thing isn't even moving at full pace yet, it's still at the beta testing stage and I'm really impressed with it!

    It's an 'IM' product, so all subscribers will be targeted ones, which is exactly what you want.

    If your wondering how much it is...it's free. When it goes live I'll help you get it setup if you need it.
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    • Profile picture of the author spacemonkee2010
      Hey everyone,
      I was talking to another newbie today, and we were interested in setting up a chatroom that we'll have running as much as we can and refreshing the link here when we need to. It might be some effort to get set up and before I go through figuring it all out, I wanted to see if there are some people out there who would be interested in having that resource available. Free of charge of course, just for us newbies!
      Justin
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      • Profile picture of the author Karen Connell
        Originally Posted by spacemonkee2010 View Post

        Hey everyone,
        I was talking to another newbie today, and we were interested in setting up a chatroom that we'll have running as much as we can and refreshing the link here when we need to. It might be some effort to get set up and before I go through figuring it all out, I wanted to see if there are some people out there who would be interested in having that resource available. Free of charge of course, just for us newbies!
        Justin
        Hi Spacemonkee

        Love the idea - it's great that you are technically minded and can even consider setting up something like that - it would make my brain bleed!:confused:

        But if you do get it up and running I would love to be involved.

        Good luck

        Karen
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    • Profile picture of the author bryce
      Originally Posted by David Chamberlain View Post

      Hi Guys,

      I notice a few people are talking about list building.

      In a few weeks, a product I am using is going live. It's called ListCrew.

      Basically, you put a piece of code on your site, and it pops up when somebody goes to any page the code is placed on. It advertises a number of peoples lists, and gives people the opportunity to subscribe.

      Now..as you are part of the network, your newsletter will be shown on many other sites, giving you more exposure.

      I posted earlier that I had had 25 subscribers in a week, that now upto 30. this thing isn't even moving at full pace yet, it's still at the beta testing stage and I'm really impressed with it!

      It's an 'IM' product, so all subscribers will be targeted ones, which is exactly what you want.

      If your wondering how much it is...it's free. When it goes live I'll help you get it setup if you need it.
      Fantastic Dave, there will be a lot of people here who would be able to benefit from such a tool!
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  • Profile picture of the author spacemonkee2010
    Well I tell you guys what we'll do. Hit me up on yahoo (spacemonkee2010) and we'll figure something out to just keep a conference set up on yahoo all day and we can just link up together more quickly that way to help each other over humps. Karen, you especially hit me up. I think I can help some with your technical problems and am more than willing to help nurse you though it all.
    Justin
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  • Profile picture of the author Null-11
    Hey everyone. Yet another newbie here. I've been a member of WF for some time now but haven't posted anything ...until now.

    I guess I'll give a little bit of info about myself.
    My real name it Colin. I don't have a product, but I've finally gotten off my butt and now one is in the works. I'm not new to the internet or anything and I even know a bit about marketing online. I've just new to the whole selling process. See, I run a quite successful forum (membership is free) so now I'm moving into the world of selling, not just marketing something free.

    I have a good grasp of all the technical stuff, so please don't hesitate to ask me any techy questions. Web stuff, FTP, Wordpress blogs, autoresponders, social media, etc. And especially if you happen to use phpBB3 to run a forum (or plan to create an online community), I'd LOVE to help you out.

    I really look forward to meeting you all and watching you succeed in the world of internet marketing.

    ------------------------------------------

    @spacemonkee2010: Justin, I love the idea and I'd really love to be a part of the group. The main reason is that I just need someone to kick me to keep me moving. Most of the people I'm around daily just don't understand what I do and what I plan to do with internet marketing. To be able to talk to people with similar interests and be able to encourage each other would be a HUGE relief for me.
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    • Profile picture of the author ejmjs
      @Null-11 - Nice to see another newbie amongst us. Although you seem much less of a newbie than myself! Welcome to the thread!
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    • Profile picture of the author bryce
      Originally Posted by Null-11 View Post

      Hey everyone. Yet another newbie here. I've been a member of WF for some time now but haven't posted anything ...until now.

      I guess I'll give a little bit of info about myself.
      My real name it Colin. I don't have a product, but I've finally gotten off my butt and now one is in the works. I'm not new to the internet or anything and I even know a bit about marketing online. I've just new to the whole selling process. See, I run a quite successful forum (membership is free) so now I'm moving into the world of selling, not just marketing something free.

      I have a good grasp of all the technical stuff, so please don't hesitate to ask me any techy questions. Web stuff, FTP, Wordpress blogs, autoresponders, social media, etc. And especially if you happen to use phpBB3 to run a forum (or plan to create an online community), I'd LOVE to help you out.

      I really look forward to meeting you all and watching you succeed in the world of internet marketing.
      Welcome Colin, happy to see you here! Sounds like you have a great head start, and your input in the thread will be fantastic.
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      • Profile picture of the author bryce
        Hi everyone,

        So much is happening in here its cool! Visited the chat room that was mentioned in the thread and nobody was home, so that was a bummer, but oh well I guess there will be other opportunities.

        I have an offer and I wanted to list it here first in the hope that one of our thread members may be able to start earning some money! If you think you have the skills to accomodate what i need, mention it here and we can see where it goes.

        okay what do I need, well lemme explain......

        Articles! I have just accepted a Management role looking after a portfolio of blogs on various subjects and I am looking for an ongoing batch of articles for these sites. As some of you will know, I usually write my own material and I would here too, but I no longer have the time I once did, and it is time to outsource.

        There are 7 blogs that require 2 articles each every month, totalling 14 articles per month. The articles must be in english, and although I will always conduct a final review, they need to be fairly well proof-read and corrected of any spelling errors, etc.

        I will provide subject matter by PM to those people that request that information, but they range from UK Business News, to Potty Training. To start with, I am offering $4 per 400-500 word article, paid on the 20th of each month via paypal.

        Articles MUST be unique, and I would like to know the source for each articles inspiration. All articles will be checked through Digg, Mixx, and Copyscape for authenticity. Integrity is the key as I am providing my service to a client, and it is that service that will keep the contract. If I keep the contract, you increase the chances of more work on top of this regular work.

        As this is a new contract, there is room for increases in payments, as the results from the work completed become apparent to the owner, and I will always be looking out for the opportunity to do this. I would envisage that after 2-3 months of regular consistent quality content being produced, and showing evidence of good results, $6-$7 per article should be attainable.

        If you cannot comprehend, relay, or communicate in FLUENT english, please dont waste your time or mine. This is a serious offer of work for someone who has an understanding of providing excellent customer service, and exceptional standards.

        K, thats about it for this one. If you are interested let me know, and we can get the ball rolling.
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        • Profile picture of the author michael074
          Originally Posted by bryce View Post

          Hi everyone,

          So much is happening in here its cool! Visited the chat room that was mentioned in the thread and nobody was home, so that was a bummer, but oh well I guess there will be other opportunities.

          I have an offer and I wanted to list it here first in the hope that one of our thread members may be able to start earning some money! If you think you have the skills to accomodate what i need, mention it here and we can see where it goes.

          okay what do I need, well lemme explain......

          Articles! I have just accepted a Management role looking after a portfolio of blogs on various subjects and I am looking for an ongoing batch of articles for these sites. As some of you will know, I usually write my own material and I would here too, but I no longer have the time I once did, and it is time to outsource.

          There are 7 blogs that require 2 articles each every month, totalling 14 articles per month. The articles must be in english, and although I will always conduct a final review, they need to be fairly well proof-read and corrected of any spelling errors, etc.

          I will provide subject matter by PM to those people that request that information, but they range from UK Business News, to Potty Training. To start with, I am offering $4 per 400-500 word article, paid on the 20th of each month via paypal.

          Articles MUST be unique, and I would like to know the source for each articles inspiration. All articles will be checked through Digg, Mixx, and Copyscape for authenticity. Integrity is the key as I am providing my service to a client, and it is that service that will keep the contract. If I keep the contract, you increase the chances of more work on top of this regular work.

          As this is a new contract, there is room for increases in payments, as the results from the work completed become apparent to the owner, and I will always be looking out for the opportunity to do this. I would envisage that after 2-3 months of regular consistent quality content being produced, and showing evidence of good results, $6-$7 per article should be attainable.

          If you cannot comprehend, relay, or communicate in FLUENT english, please dont waste your time or mine. This is a serious offer of work for someone who has an understanding of providing excellent customer service, and exceptional standards.

          K, thats about it for this one. If you are interested let me know, and we can get the ball rolling.
          Hi Bryce,

          I would be interested in your proposal.. I am NOT the greatest writer out there but I do have an interest in the subject and want to pursue it further.
          I have attached some samples for you to look at. Let me know what you think.

          Mike
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          • Profile picture of the author bryce
            Hi Mike, and thanks for the quick response! I will check out your samples, and get back to you in the morning if thats okay. It is like 2am here and I am heading off to bed. God forbid the day they develop "pillow computers" oh man am I in trouble then, lol.

            Thanks again mike, hope everything is cool with you
            Bryce
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  • Profile picture of the author Null-11
    Thanks ejmjs, I'm so glad I found this topic. I really need to surround myself with more like-minded people. Hopefully I wont let this thread distract me from my work too much. :p

    @ejmjs By the way: Is your name Colin too? That's just too cool.
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    • Profile picture of the author ejmjs
      Originally Posted by Null-11 View Post

      Thanks ejmjs, I'm so glad I found this topic. I really need to surround myself with more like-minded people. Hopefully I wont let this thread distract me from my work too much. :p
      That was my thinking too. It is too easy to be distracted by people around you who just don't understand the potential that we have if we can focus on what we truly want to achieve. By that I mean most people in our lives - not this forum

      Originally Posted by Null-11 View Post

      @ejmjs By the way: Is your name Colin too? That's just too cool.
      lol My names Mark. I assume you got Colin from Twitter, he's my Dad/business partner. Close though. Must be a good name.
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      • Profile picture of the author Null-11
        Originally Posted by ejmjs View Post

        That was my thinking too. It is too easy to be distracted by people around you who just don't understand the potential that we have if we can focus on what we truly want to achieve. By that I mean most people in our lives - not this forum

        lol My names Mark. I assume you got Colin from Twitter, he's my Dad/business partner. Close though. Must be a good name.
        Oh well, so close. You'll probably think I'm kidding but my dad's name is actually Marc. Yeah, it's spelled with a 'c' but still the similarities are pretty funny.

        Originally Posted by Hasan Barbary View Post

        Ok, I'm gonna answer the chatroom challenge... I've thrown up a very basic room on my website that everyone here is free to try out. I have a confession: I don't really like chatrooms, myself. Why? Because the busy/fun ones can be too addictive, and the empty ones are... well, empty.

        But I am genuinely impressed with the positive energy in this thread, so I figured, "What the heck".

        My signature line is the link. (Look down.)

        I'm using a free trial version of the software, so there's no security: just log in with whatever name you what. I suggest that you check this thread first to see who's online (look for the green light icon, bottom-left); then maybe PM 1 or 2 people and invite them to join you.

        That way, hopefully, our new "incubator" space won't feel like a ghost town.

        I'm using the handle "SnowProAdmin" in the chatroom... I may or may not be online, depending on when you stop by. (I pulled an all-nighter building out the back office for my membership site & I'm probably gonna crash soon).

        But please, stop by, tell a few friends, and most importantly, give me feedback on the functionality. It's a Java applet that's hosted by a 3rd party; which is good for me because it doesn't eat up my bandwidth. But it does seems a little fussy. Be careful about refreshing your browser while chatting, it doesn't always reload properly.

        Anyways, check it out, and I'll try to implement any constructive suggestions that I can. If this takes off it might justify my upgrading to the pro version ~ let's see how it goes.

        Enjoy!

        ~ hasan

        P.S. very amused & gratified that the whole "Novice" thing is catching
        Ah man, you beat me too it. ;-) It looks great by the way. I just logged in to test it out.

        And might I complement you on taking action on this so quick. That's what true success comes form; you see a opportunity and taking action on it.
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        • Profile picture of the author ejmjs
          Originally Posted by Null-11 View Post

          Oh well, so close. You'll probably think I'm kidding but my dad's name is actually Marc. Yeah, it's spelled with a 'c' but still the similarities are pretty funny.
          That's mad. If only it was spot on. That would be spooky lmao.
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        • Profile picture of the author Hasan Barbary
          Originally Posted by Null-11 View Post

          Ah man, you beat me too it. ;-) It looks great by the way. I just logged in to test it out.

          And might I complement you on taking action on this so quick. That's what true success comes form; you see a opportunity and taking action on it.
          Glad to be of service... and you know what they say about the "early bird"
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  • Profile picture of the author spacemonkee2010
    Hey Colin, great to have you here. I think you're really a great fit for this forum. You've got some people who are learning a good bit about the selling side, and one of the biggest obstacles they face is tech stuff. Look for lots of thank you's here if you're willing.

    I'm seriously wanting to set up a free chatroom somewhere the I can link to from this thread. We're all sitting around hacking away on a keyboard anyway, so if we run into a bump, or just want to bounce something off of somebody, there's a chance there would be somebody there to talk to.

    Anyway, I know I'm sitting around working on a all kinds of things, so for right now, I'm on here all the time. Hope to talk to you soon, I'm on skype and yahoo as spacemonkee2010.
    Later,
    Justin
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  • Profile picture of the author Null-11
    Thanks Justin! It's great to meet you. I don't have Yahoo but I'll add you in Skype. Please let me know when you get that chatroom up and running cuz I'll be there.

    Anyways, I'm looking forward to meeting more newbies and helping out along the way.
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    • Profile picture of the author jondavidson
      Welcome all New "Novice" Warriors,

      I can honestly say that now I feel momentum being built inside this thread! Great ideas floating around in here since my last post.
      Just wanted to pop in and say Keep 'um coming. Everyone of us can work together on issues that come up...all we need to do is ask...right?

      Be back later everyone...
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      • Profile picture of the author Hasan Barbary
        Ok, I'm gonna answer the chatroom challenge... I've thrown up a very basic room on my website that everyone here is free to try out. I have a confession: I don't really like chatrooms, myself. Why? Because the busy/fun ones can be too addictive, and the empty ones are... well, empty.

        But I am genuinely impressed with the positive energy in this thread, so I figured, "What the heck".

        My signature line is the link. (Look down.)

        I'm using a free trial version of the software, so there's no security: just log in with whatever name you what. I suggest that you check this thread first to see who's online (look for the green light icon, bottom-left); then maybe PM 1 or 2 people and invite them to join you.

        That way, hopefully, our new "incubator" space won't feel like a ghost town.

        I'm using the handle "SnowProAdmin" in the chatroom... I may or may not be online, depending on when you stop by. (I pulled an all-nighter building out the back office for my membership site & I'm probably gonna crash soon).

        But please, stop by, tell a few friends, and most importantly, give me feedback on the functionality. It's a Java applet that's hosted by a 3rd party; which is good for me because it doesn't eat up my bandwidth. But it does seems a little fussy. Be careful about refreshing your browser while chatting, it doesn't always reload properly.

        Anyways, check it out, and I'll try to implement any constructive suggestions that I can. If this takes off it might justify my upgrading to the pro version ~ let's see how it goes.

        Enjoy!

        ~ hasan

        P.S. very amused & gratified that the whole "Novice" thing is catching
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        • Profile picture of the author ejmjs
          Originally Posted by Hasan Barbary View Post

          Ok, I'm gonna answer the chatroom challenge... I've thrown up a very basic room on my website that everyone here is free to try out. I have a confession: I don't really like chatrooms, myself. Why? Because the busy/fun ones can be too addictive, and the empty ones are... well, empty.

          But I am genuinely impressed with the positive energy in this thread, so I figured, "What the heck".

          My signature line is the link. (Look down.)

          I'm using a free trial version of the software, so there's no security: just log in with whatever name you what. I suggest that you check this thread first to see who's online (look for the green light icon, bottom-left); then maybe PM 1 or 2 people and invite them to join you.

          That way, hopefully, our new "incubator" space won't feel like a ghost town.

          I'm using the handle "SnowProAdmin" in the chatroom... I may or may not be online, depending on when you stop by. (I pulled an all-nighter building out the back office for my membership site & I'm probably gonna crash soon).

          But please, stop by, tell a few friends, and most importantly, give me feedback on the functionality. It's a Java applet that's hosted by a 3rd party; which is good for me because it doesn't eat up my bandwidth. But it does seems a little fussy. Be careful about refreshing your browser while chatting, it doesn't always reload properly.

          Anyways, check it out, and I'll try to implement any constructive suggestions that I can. If this takes off it might justify my upgrading to the pro version ~ let's see how it goes.

          Enjoy!

          ~ hasan

          P.S. very amused & gratified that the whole "Novice" thing is catching
          Nice work dude! I will check it out!
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  • Profile picture of the author ejmjs
    The chatroom that Hasan has setup is very useful for us all to get together and have a realtime chat with eachother and bash ideas around. Check it out!
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  • Profile picture of the author LightningYang
    We are announcing the launch of our latest product money making system. Converts like crazy but most importantly it works like crazy! "Triad Millionaire Formula" here's the Affiliate link that pays 70%! We would love the members here to join too! Residual Income Every Month!!

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    Your Friend,
    Luke
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  • Profile picture of the author Null-11
    Yup. Haha, caught you online there.
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  • Profile picture of the author ejmjs
    Hi all. Whats new with everyone? Hows everyone doing?
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    • Profile picture of the author bryce
      Originally Posted by ejmjs View Post

      Hi all. Whats new with everyone? Hows everyone doing?
      Hahaha, hmmmm, well okay - I am fine! thanks for asking :p I hope you are doing okay 2
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      • Profile picture of the author ejmjs
        Originally Posted by bryce View Post

        Hahaha, hmmmm, well okay - I am fine! thanks for asking :p I hope you are doing okay 2
        Sorry I completely bypassed your post earlier - how blind am I!!! I didn't mean to just change the subject away from it so quickly.
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        • Profile picture of the author bryce
          Originally Posted by ejmjs View Post

          Sorry I completely bypassed your post earlier - how blind am I!!! I didn't mean to just change the subject away from it so quickly.

          hahaha no problem at all my friend. You go for it!
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          • Profile picture of the author bryce
            Hi guys, its day time again, and the sun is up and shining, so of course rather than spend the day on the beach with a tall cool glass of whatever, and a great IM book, I am here in front of the magnet! Hope everyone is well today

            Today I am going to establish a temp forum of sorts, with the idea being to take some of the ideas, fresh and otherwise, off WF to discuss between ourselves. I understand that monitoring a forum is another load of work, but I am going to call on some people to help out in the form of admins and mods, and we can get things cranking over there. This is NOT to detract from this thread, moreso to actually discuss things that may be of a sensitive nature.

            I am going to make it as secure as possible, with the usual sign up process, but also make it so that new members MUST first have an account here on WF, and they MUST post in this thread. That way we know how many posts they have here, how new (novice) they are, thus eliminating or reducing the possibility of "seagulls" entering the realm and pinching some ideas.

            One of my main areas of interest with this thread has been the old saying "many hands make light work" and I want that to be the case. If I can (or anybody else for that matter) offer up something that is a win-win for everybody on this thread, it moves the novice status along a little quicker than it may otherwise.

            For starters let me kick it off by saying I have 2 brand new opportunities for everyone here to make some money. I will need help in setting this up (well one of them at least) because we are not all sitting in the same room. This is one of the hardest things I find with working online. The distance that separates people around the globe and the varying time zones.

            So if anyone is interested in this as a concept, check back here later to grab the url for the forum, zap on over there and sign up. If you are not interested I would love to know your ideas, and thoughts.
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            • Profile picture of the author ejmjs
              Originally Posted by bryce View Post

              Hi guys, its day time again, and the sun is up and shining, so of course rather than spend the day on the beach with a tall cool glass of whatever, and a great IM book, I am here in front of the magnet! Hope everyone is well today

              Today I am going to establish a temp forum of sorts, with the idea being to take some of the ideas, fresh and otherwise, off WF to discuss between ourselves. I understand that monitoring a forum is another load of work, but I am going to call on some people to help out in the form of admins and mods, and we can get things cranking over there. This is NOT to detract from this thread, moreso to actually discuss things that may be of a sensitive nature.

              I am going to make it as secure as possible, with the usual sign up process, but also make it so that new members MUST first have an account here on WF, and they MUST post in this thread. That way we know how many posts they have here, how new (novice) they are, thus eliminating or reducing the possibility of "seagulls" entering the realm and pinching some ideas.

              One of my main areas of interest with this thread has been the old saying "many hands make light work" and I want that to be the case. If I can (or anybody else for that matter) offer up something that is a win-win for everybody on this thread, it moves the novice status along a little quicker than it may otherwise.

              For starters let me kick it off by saying I have 2 brand new opportunities for everyone here to make some money. I will need help in setting this up (well one of them at least) because we are not all sitting in the same room. This is one of the hardest things I find with working online. The distance that separates people around the globe and the varying time zones.

              So if anyone is interested in this as a concept, check back here later to grab the url for the forum, zap on over there and sign up. If you are not interested I would love to know your ideas, and thoughts.
              Fantastic stuff! Great dedication and willingness to nurture everyones abilities. I love your ideas and your go-to-it attitude. You can certainly count me in on the forum. I just Know it will be a great success! Somewhere we can all help eachother grow and progress. Brilliant!
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              • Profile picture of the author bryce
                Originally Posted by ejmjs View Post

                Fantastic stuff! Great dedication and willingness to nurture everyones abilities. I love your ideas and your go-to-it attitude. You can certainly count me in on the forum. I just Know it will be a great success! Somewhere we can all help eachother grow and progress. Brilliant!
                Thanks buddy, no problem! Glad you will be there. Check out the post that will be put on in a few moments, all the details will be there
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            • Profile picture of the author jondavidson
              Originally Posted by bryce View Post

              Hi guys, its day time again, and the sun is up and shining, so of course rather than spend the day on the beach with a tall cool glass of whatever, and a great IM book, I am here in front of the magnet! Hope everyone is well today

              Today I am going to establish a temp forum of sorts, with the idea being to take some of the ideas, fresh and otherwise, off WF to discuss between ourselves. I understand that monitoring a forum is another load of work, but I am going to call on some people to help out in the form of admins and mods, and we can get things cranking over there. This is NOT to detract from this thread, moreso to actually discuss things that may be of a sensitive nature.

              I am going to make it as secure as possible, with the usual sign up process, but also make it so that new members MUST first have an account here on WF, and they MUST post in this thread. That way we know how many posts they have here, how new (novice) they are, thus eliminating or reducing the possibility of "seagulls" entering the realm and pinching some ideas.

              One of my main areas of interest with this thread has been the old saying "many hands make light work" and I want that to be the case. If I can (or anybody else for that matter) offer up something that is a win-win for everybody on this thread, it moves the novice status along a little quicker than it may otherwise.

              For starters let me kick it off by saying I have 2 brand new opportunities for everyone here to make some money. I will need help in setting this up (well one of them at least) because we are not all sitting in the same room. This is one of the hardest things I find with working online. The distance that separates people around the globe and the varying time zones.

              So if anyone is interested in this as a concept, check back here later to grab the url for the forum, zap on over there and sign up. If you are not interested I would love to know your ideas, and thoughts.
              Fantastic Idea Bryce!
              If you need my help with any of it , Count me in.
              You sort of read my mind also as I was just getting ready to post some sensitive material here and you came up with this idea to keep it on the QT.
              Good job man and let me know how it all unfolds.
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              • Profile picture of the author bryce
                Originally Posted by jondavidson View Post

                Fantastic Idea Bryce!
                If you need my help with any of it , Count me in.
                You sort of read my mind also as I was just getting ready to post some sensitive material here and you came up with this idea to keep it on the QT.
                Good job man and let me know how it all unfolds.
                hahaha - QT - shhhhhh - luv it! Great to hear you are keen. I think it will be a lot better to shift some sensitive material there, even if it is temporary until we get the full blown "Lounge" in order, lol. I will announce it soon in this thread. Thanks for all your support Jon, fantastic!
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  • Profile picture of the author spacemonkee2010
    Hey everybody. We've been working pretty hard here at The Marketing Madmen house. We've got a launch that we're doing on Monday and preparing like crazy in the meantime. We'd appreciate any help with you guys checking out what we're doing. You can fan us at facebook by searching for The Declaration. We've got a fan page up there.
    You can also join us on youtube by searching for Themarketingmadmen. This is our first real go at this and it would be great if you guys would check us out and tell all your IM buddies about it.
    Thanks and I hope everybody has a great weekend
    Justin
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    • Profile picture of the author bryce
      Originally Posted by spacemonkee2010 View Post

      Hey everybody. We've been working pretty hard here at The Marketing Madmen house. We've got a launch that we're doing on Monday and preparing like crazy in the meantime. We'd appreciate any help with you guys checking out what we're doing. You can fan us at facebook by searching for The Declaration. We've got a fan page up there.
      You can also join us on youtube by searching for Themarketingmadmen. This is our first real go at this and it would be great if you guys would check us out and tell all your IM buddies about it.
      Thanks and I hope everybody has a great weekend
      Justin
      I see you are building up the "suspense" Justin, that is cool, LOL. I went and took a look at YT and subscribed. You will see my username there when you check it out Good luck for Monday!
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  • Profile picture of the author spacemonkee2010
    Great job on the chatroom Hasan! Even if its simple, its this kind of action that's going to push us all over the proverbial hump. I'm in there now and will hang out for awhile if anybody else wants to jump in there.
    Justin
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  • Profile picture of the author ejmjs
    Here is something that may help some of you organise your daily internet activities.
    If you don't already have Mozilla Firefox I highly recommend you get it. It's a free browser and runs much faster than Microsft's Internet Explorer.
    Other than the speed element there are customization options that for me save me time each and every day online.
    Now i'm sure you all know what tabs are but just incase...
    Tabs are like having all your seperate internet windows open but all in one place where you can jump from one to the other. By having tabs you also reduce the power needed that several of the same application such as Internet explorer of Firefox would need. Thus making your machine run smoother and faster.

    The main benefit however of using Firefox is that you can get it to remeber all your tabs you have opened for the next time you open Firefox back up to save tons of time. Not only this but you can have several profiles too. This means you can have one with your personal bits such as facebook and hotmail etc, and another with err facebook and hotmail lol aswell as WF of course and twitter and whatever else you want saved.

    Once you have firefox downloaded and installed. (google it)
    You need to setup you pages in your tabs. (if you have IE i believe you can transfer your setting automatically if you want)
    Firstly type in (or copy and paste) to the run command on your computer the following.........
    firefox.exe -ProfileManager
    Then setup your profiles. You can add as many as you like and all can be customized to have their own location for downloaded files.
    Then go to TOOLS then OPTIONS then on the MAIN tab at the top is says... STARTUP and below it WHEN FIREFOX STARTS: then choose remember windows and tabs.

    Voila!!
    Hope that helps someone!

    Take care!
    Mark
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    • Profile picture of the author bryce
      Originally Posted by ejmjs View Post

      Here is something that may help some of you organise your daily internet activities.
      If you don't already have Mozilla Firefox I highly recommend you get it. It's a free browser and runs much faster than Microsft's Internet Explorer.
      Other than the speed element there are customization options that for me save me time each and every day online.
      Now i'm sure you all know what tabs are but just incase...
      Tabs are like having all your seperate internet windows open but all in one place where you can jump from one to the other. By having tabs you also reduce the power needed that several of the same application such as Internet explorer of Firefox would need. Thus making your machine run smoother and faster.

      The main benefit however of using Firefox is that you can get it to remeber all your tabs you have opened for the next time you open Firefox back up to save tons of time. Not only this but you can have several profiles too. This means you can have one with your personal bits such as facebook and hotmail etc, and another with err facebook and hotmail lol aswell as WF of course and twitter and whatever else you want saved.

      Once you have firefox downloaded and installed. (google it)
      You need to setup you pages in your tabs. (if you have IE i believe you can transfer your setting automatically if you want)
      Firstly type in (or copy and paste) to the run command on your computer the following.........
      firefox.exe -ProfileManager
      Then setup your profiles. You can add as many as you like and all can be customized to have their own location for downloaded files.
      Then go to TOOLS then OPTIONS then on the MAIN tab at the top is says... STARTUP and below it WHEN FIREFOX STARTS: then choose remember windows and tabs.

      Voila!!
      Hope that helps someone!

      Take care!
      Mark
      Another helpful tip for people wanting to use FF Mark. Cool! Personally I dont like the way FF displays some pages, but I guess I am a creature of habit, and IE is my preferred browser. That is not to say that I can't be convinced to change, LOL. Maybe I will take a closer look at this from a speed and flexibility angle. Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author ejmjs
    I'm hanging around the chatroom if anyone is around.
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  • Profile picture of the author David Chamberlain
    HI Everyone.

    I can't believe how much this thread has taken off! Well done to everyone who has joined in and contributed, It's good that everyone can help eachother.

    I've decided that I don't like the word NEWBIE anymore

    And here's why.....

    It is something that you can hide behind...some people never move away from it, and it seriously harms your chances to progress with your business.

    I got my first website on 17th Feb (I think). That's when I took the plunge. We are now 4 months later and I have made over $2000 online. I have reinvested every penny back into my business. If I can make $2000 from nothing, then what can I make from $2000?

    I still work full time, so this has all been done in evenings and at weekend. I'm planning to quit my job in 6 months. I have all my goals written down, and they are on the back of my door! i see them every day - and i WILL achieve every single one of them this next 12 months. (One of them is to make $100k).

    I know people have excuses...and I want you to get them all out here on this thread. Tell me whats holding you back and I'll try and give you a way to combat it.

    I've had all the excuses...information overload, no one will listen to me, i can't design a website etc. Everyone does it...but it seriously restricts your mind!

    I'm going to talk to Bryce soon and try and sort something out for us all, there is so much information here on the WF, sometimes too much! - (Bryce just read my mind!)

    Hopefully we can get the information organised in a way that it will be easy to use, and follow.

    Anyway, I'm pretty accessible if anyone wants to chat, I'm n ot great on my PM's on here, I tend to get quite a few! But add me up on Skype, i'm on there quite often!

    Thanks everyone!

    Dave
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    • Profile picture of the author ejmjs
      Originally Posted by David Chamberlain View Post

      HI Everyone.

      I can't believe how much this thread has taken off! Well done to everyone who has joined in and contributed, It's good that everyone can help eachother.

      I've decided that I don't like the word NEWBIE anymore

      And here's why.....

      It is something that you can hide behind...some people never move away from it, and it seriously harms your chances to progress with your business.

      I got my first website on 17th Feb (I think). That's when I took the plunge. We are now 4 months later and I have made over $2000 online. I have reinvested every penny back into my business. If I can make $2000 from nothing, then what can I make from $2000?

      I still work full time, so this has all been done in evenings and at weekend. I'm planning to quit my job in 6 months. I have all my goals written down, and they are on the back of my door! i see them every day - and i WILL achieve every single one of them this next 12 months. (One of them is to make $100k).

      I know people have excuses...and I want you to get them all out here on this thread. Tell me whats holding you back and I'll try and give you a way to combat it.

      I've had all the excuses...information overload, no one will listen to me, i can't design a website etc. Everyone does it...but it seriously restricts your mind!

      I'm going to talk to Bryce soon and try and sort something out for us all, there is so much information here on the WF, sometimes too much! - (Bryce just read my mind!)

      Hopefully we can get the information organised in a way that it will be easy to use, and follow.

      Anyway, I'm pretty accessible if anyone wants to chat, I'm n ot great on my PM's on here, I tend to get quite a few! But add me up on Skype, i'm on there quite often!

      Thanks everyone!

      Dave
      Well done on your success thus far. I know with an attitude as positive and driven as the one you have, you will succeed without a shadow of a doubt. Congratz!
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    • Profile picture of the author jondavidson
      Originally Posted by David Chamberlain View Post

      HI Everyone.

      I can't believe how much this thread has taken off! Well done to everyone who has joined in and contributed, It's good that everyone can help eachother.

      I've decided that I don't like the word NEWBIE anymore

      And here's why.....

      It is something that you can hide behind...some people never move away from it, and it seriously harms your chances to progress with your business.

      I got my first website on 17th Feb (I think). That's when I took the plunge. We are now 4 months later and I have made over $2000 online. I have reinvested every penny back into my business. If I can make $2000 from nothing, then what can I make from $2000?

      I still work full time, so this has all been done in evenings and at weekend. I'm planning to quit my job in 6 months. I have all my goals written down, and they are on the back of my door! i see them every day - and i WILL achieve every single one of them this next 12 months. (One of them is to make $100k).

      I know people have excuses...and I want you to get them all out here on this thread. Tell me whats holding you back and I'll try and give you a way to combat it.

      I've had all the excuses...information overload, no one will listen to me, i can't design a website etc. Everyone does it...but it seriously restricts your mind!

      I'm going to talk to Bryce soon and try and sort something out for us all, there is so much information here on the WF, sometimes too much! - (Bryce just read my mind!)

      Hopefully we can get the information organised in a way that it will be easy to use, and follow.

      Anyway, I'm pretty accessible if anyone wants to chat, I'm n ot great on my PM's on here, I tend to get quite a few! But add me up on Skype, i'm on there quite often!

      Thanks everyone!

      Dave
      Hey Dave,

      Fantastic success story! I love to hear about success!
      The more motivation, the better I say, and Dave and Bryce, you guys are surely the motivators.

      The determination to never give up is what separates us from the 95% that give up after a short period.

      My Quote:
      "Failure is NOT an Option"
      has been with me for a long time now and I don't intend to FAIL!

      Great job man and keep it up!
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      • Profile picture of the author David Chamberlain
        Originally Posted by jondavidson View Post


        My Quote:
        "Failure is NOT an Option"
        has been with me for a long time now and I don't intend to FAIL!

        Great job man and keep it up!
        Mine is:

        Live your life for a few years like most people won't, so you can live the rest of your life like most people can't!

        It's 3am here...that gets me through!
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        • Profile picture of the author ejmjs
          Originally Posted by David Chamberlain View Post


          It's 3am here...that gets me through!
          Someone else in my timezone! And another nighthawk!
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        • Profile picture of the author studio52
          Originally Posted by David Chamberlain View Post

          Mine is:

          Live your life for a few years like most people won't, so you can live the rest of your life like most people can't!

          It's 3am here...that gets me through!
          Hey David, my last post was directed towards your reply on this thread...
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        • Profile picture of the author bryce
          Originally Posted by David Chamberlain View Post

          Mine is:

          Live your life for a few years like most people won't, so you can live the rest of your life like most people can't!

          It's 3am here...that gets me through!

          Hahahaha luv it!!
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  • Profile picture of the author ejmjs
    Just had an idea. Don't know how good it is. I will let you guys decide that.
    I am sort of cutting myself out of this simply becase I do not have a mailing list but I was thinking for the people on this thread that do have a list even if it is small, maybe everyone could combine their lists together and do the same with any similar products whether ebooks, videos, software etc. Then it would be a case of heads together and put into practise all marketing tequniques, free ebooks, blogs, twitter, etc and anything else for promotion with the end result being some sort of great value bumper package that everyone takes their cut from the sales? Obviosly quite a bit of organization would be required but it could work out quite well maybe. Anyone have any thoughts on something like that. Obviously like I said although I suggested it it is not intended to help me as I do not have a list but for anyone who has it could possibly workout?
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    • Profile picture of the author bryce
      Originally Posted by ejmjs View Post

      Just had an idea. Don't know how good it is. I will let you guys decide that.
      I am sort of cutting myself out of this simply becase I do not have a mailing list but I was thinking for the people on this thread that do have a list even if it is small, maybe everyone could combine their lists together and do the same with any similar products whether ebooks, videos, software etc. Then it would be a case of heads together and put into practise all marketing tequniques, free ebooks, blogs, twitter, etc and anything else for promotion with the end result being some sort of great value bumper package that everyone takes their cut from the sales? Obviosly quite a bit of organization would be required but it could work out quite well maybe. Anyone have any thoughts on something like that. Obviously like I said although I suggested it it is not intended to help me as I do not have a list but for anyone who has it could possibly workout?
      The same sort of cencept is sometimes called a "Giveaway". In fact I just got wind of one coming up, but you are right. There is always a clever way of packaging any number of things, for everyones (including the recipient) benefit. There will be a similar idea on the forum soon! - Well done
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      • Profile picture of the author ejmjs
        Originally Posted by bryce View Post

        The same sort of cencept is sometimes called a "Giveaway". In fact I just got wind of one coming up, but you are right. There is always a clever way of packaging any number of things, for everyones (including the recipient) benefit. There will be a similar idea on the forum soon! - Well done
        Cool. Look forward to it. And Thanx
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        • Profile picture of the author bryce
          Hi people

          its 1.30am here now, and I am getting ready to go to bed, but I thought I would drop by and let you all know that I have put up a temporary (maybe permanent) forum for everyone here to hop into, if you are interested in taking things being discussed here, a little bit further.

          The foeum is still obviously in its very early stages, and I want to make it so that everyone on THIS THREAD has a chance to benefit from it, and make some money from it. At this stage I have started to put up some genuine ideas on how we can get into a "collaborative" frame of mind, to all make some money.

          If you would like to see anything specific on the forum either post the details there when you join, or leave the details here in the thread.

          I am not moving away from this thread, the forum is simply a "round table" sort of thing that takes the whole concept one step further, whilst making sure as much as we can that the content is kept out of the view of people we dont want involved.

          This is PURELY for people who are NEW to the world of online income, and Internet Marketing, and there are some guidelines to that effect on the forum.

          When you get there (as a guest) there is a lot you cant see. I have locked certain areas off from guests, and only Registered Members can gain access to the real juice!

          Sign up/Register, and please wait patiently for me to approve the registration. This is just initially as I want to hand over the reigns (moderation) to others who are willing to participate. Dave and I will have our hands full with the back end for now. We would rather you are able to concentrate on the content there instead of running the site

          The address at this stage is NOVICE NATION &bull; Index page as I have it set up as a sub-domain, until we decide where the permanent home will be.

          Okay thats it for me tonight I will be around for a little while longer as I am waiting on an email from the UK, so if anyone wants to join up before I head off to lala land, I can get you on quickly, lol.

          Cya soon
          Bryce
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          • Profile picture of the author Hasan Barbary
            Alright, I'm in. As the "original Novice", I hope I meet with your stringent admission requirements, Bryce :p.

            On a somewhat serious note, all the percolating activity in this thread, and the related "spin-off" projects raise an important point, imho.

            The WF is first and foremost, a forum about Internet Marketing generally, or more bluntly, about making money online. Now, not everyone here does it fulltime, or wants to. But I do... this is my business; so I can understand the need for some discretion.

            The point I'm trying to make is about the Balancing Act: this thread has been an amazing example (so far), of a non-spammy, generous micro-community in the making. I don't want to lose that. And at the same I'm deadly serious about not "giving away the farm" either. Many of us have products or programs that we're trying to sell, dammit!

            So, let me volunteer a compromise suggestion: Bryce, if you want you space to be more "buttoned down", that's fine by me. I'm ready to talk shop behind "closed-doors". Correct me if I'm wrong, but your new forum strikes me as a kind of "War Room for Beginners" ~ w/o the $37 entry fee.

            Am I getting the gist of it? If so, cool.

            Meanwhile, I feel strongly that we should continue to support the cooperative vibe we've got here. So I'm reinviting everyone to make use of the chatroom for that purpose.

            I've got a lot of irons in the fire, but since I built the chatroom on my site, I feel that the least I can do is be a good host. Now I know timezones are a challenge for some, but I'm going to make myself available in the chatroom for 1 hour a day Mon-Sat, between 2-3pm EDT (that's 6-7pm GMT). So if anyone feels like stopping in, they'll know it won't be empty at that time. We can be serious or silly, it makes no difference to me!

            Between this thread, my chatroom, Bryce's new forum, and David's upcoming plans, I think that the "newbies", "novices" or whatever you wanna call yourselves now have an embarrassment of riches. Folks, please take advantage of the resources being offered. You don't see this kind of collaboration every day!

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            • Profile picture of the author bryce
              Hi Spacemonkey, hahaha - and Hasan

              Justin thanks for your input, but this (novice nation) project isnt the Lounge my friend. The Lounge is what we will create from all of the value on this thread. The forum I set up tonight, is just a "transtition" format that can be used by those members on this thread to freely discuss their ideas, without the threat of having anything swiped from under them. The Lounge is something Dave and I were talking about earlier in the picture, and now that the thread has reached 6 pages and many members, we will start the project very shortly, I am sure. As you will note Dave has been busy with his upcoming launch, and I have been busy with Ethans music, but we are seeing some light at the end of that proverbial tunnel now

              Hasan, you have it in a nutshell! The forum is an environment aside from this thread, and will be a meeting place for those who want to take things one step further. This THREAD will not cease to exist, and I for one will be coming here every day until it fizzes out, but after what we have created here, that may never happen, lol.

              My main concern was that some ideas on this thread had reached a point where some solid communication needed to happen or had already happened, off the thread! This is due to the fact that we cant stop who sees the info here, and someone with a truckload of cash could probably initiate some of our plans in a day or so, whereas we are not that well off - yet!

              In an environment that is controlled by those who have something to protect, there is less chance of prying eyes stealing the thunder.

              Anyway there is no pressure on anyone. Its free to join, and anyone who does join MUST be a member here, and have posted on this thread, so we are keeping this space alive also. By the way I have been in the chat room twice now and both times it was empty :p

              Cya tomorrow (well today actually, lol)
              Bryce
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              • Profile picture of the author michael074
                Hi Bryce,

                Just registered with the new forum, looking forward to it.

                Have you had a chance to look at the articles I sent you? (I won't be surprised if you haven't, you've had a long day).

                Mike.
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              • Profile picture of the author jondavidson
                Originally Posted by bryce View Post

                Hi Spacemonkey, hahaha - and Hasan

                Justin thanks for your input, but this (novice nation) project isnt the Lounge my friend. The Lounge is what we will create from all of the value on this thread. The forum I set up tonight, is just a "transtition" format that can be used by those members on this thread to freely discuss their ideas, without the threat of having anything swiped from under them. The Lounge is something Dave and I were talking about earlier in the picture, and now that the thread has reached 6 pages and many members, we will start the project very shortly, I am sure. As you will note Dave has been busy with his upcoming launch, and I have been busy with Ethans music, but we are seeing some light at the end of that proverbial tunnel now

                Hasan, you have it in a nutshell! The forum is an environment aside from this thread, and will be a meeting place for those who want to take things one step further. This THREAD will not cease to exist, and I for one will be coming here every day until it fizzes out, but after what we have created here, that may never happen, lol.

                My main concern was that some ideas on this thread had reached a point where some solid communication needed to happen or had already happened, off the thread! This is due to the fact that we cant stop who sees the info here, and someone with a truckload of cash could probably initiate some of our plans in a day or so, whereas we are not that well off - yet!

                In an environment that is controlled by those who have something to protect, there is less chance of prying eyes stealing the thunder.

                Anyway there is no pressure on anyone. Its free to join, and anyone who does join MUST be a member here, and have posted on this thread, so we are keeping this space alive also. By the way I have been in the chat room twice now and both times it was empty :p

                Cya tomorrow (well today actually, lol)
                Bryce
                Bryce,

                Very Nice Job on the "Novice Nation" ...well structured.
                Already registered and awaiting.
                What a fantastic job you did on the idea of
                moderating the user name from here.

                I've got a few ideas/concepts I will be sharing with all of you as soon as
                we are all "in".

                "Safety in Numbers" and yes Bryce... It makes for easier work when
                you have all hands on deck...so-to-speak.
                Let me know if you need any of my help.

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                I made a statement in one of my earlier posts....the momentum is starting to pick up here.

                But before I move further...I would like to thank Hasan publicly for the "Novice" name to replace and to shake the newbie from all of us and getting us to the level we are right now.

                Nice job mate.

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                To Move on...

                Justin...just checked out your site.
                Format looks good so far..I'll throw in some of my input for you here.
                People like facts and numbers as well. They will thrive and be amazed by how much fossil fuels we are using VS. the wind and solar, bullet point this list. Tell them WHY they need your product.
                Share any experiences you may have had with this also, people like the cozy feeling when they read about a product on how well it worked for you.. A product review maybe could be put in on the #1 product, which is yours, vs the #2 and #3 products on the market, which is the better bang for their buck... You might get some ideas from a sight called "The Venus Project". It may give you some pretty far out concepts of today's culture but as far as the renewed energy concept goes, they are right on...
                Also there is an Actress that lives here in Colorado that really pushes clean living...Her name.. Daryl Hannah. >>> Here is her website to check out.
                On Week 28 video ...>>> HERE <<< , she talks about solar energy.. pretty cool huh? Thought I would share this with you to give you some ideas for a brainstorming session. Anyway...enough of my rambling. Good luck and never give up. Research, research, research.

                One step at a time...very cool!

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                Hope everyone is having a great day!

                Until Next time.
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                • Profile picture of the author bryce
                  Originally Posted by jondavidson View Post

                  Bryce,

                  Very Nice Job on the "Novice Nation" ...well structured.
                  Already registered and awaiting.
                  What a fantastic job you did on the idea of
                  moderating the user name from here.

                  I've got a few ideas/concepts I will be sharing with all of you as soon as
                  we are all "in".

                  "Safety in Numbers" and yes Bryce... It makes for easier work when
                  you have all hands on deck...so-to-speak.
                  Let me know if you need any of my help.


                  Hope everyone is having a great day!

                  Until Next time.
                  Thanks Jon, no problem at all my friend. Its all about making sure that things are safe and secure, lol.

                  Not too sure about the name, and all that little stuff. I just thought it was the right time to be getting a little more private with some of the material here.
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          • Profile picture of the author ejmjs
            @bryce - the forum is down at the moment. Just a heads up.
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            • Profile picture of the author bryce
              Originally Posted by ejmjs View Post

              @bryce - the forum is down at the moment. Just a heads up.
              Hi buddy, it may have been when I upgraded to v3.0.5 - all is good now Thanks for the heads up tho!
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              • Profile picture of the author ejmjs
                Originally Posted by bryce View Post

                Hi buddy, it may have been when I upgraded to v3.0.5 - all is good now Thanks for the heads up tho!
                Ah cool. Planned maintainance
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                • Profile picture of the author bryce
                  Originally Posted by ejmjs View Post

                  Ah cool. Planned maintainance
                  ROFL yep planned it about 5 minutes b4 doing it, hahahaha - omg I need a coffee :p
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                  • Profile picture of the author ejmjs
                    Originally Posted by bryce View Post

                    ROFL yep planned it about 5 minutes b4 doing it, hahahaha - omg I need a coffee :p
                    Originally Posted by bryce View Post


                    Glad you guys are having some fun there tho! I will get there soon, to be sure, to be sure....
                    you having an irish coffee by any chance
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                    • Profile picture of the author jondavidson
                      O.K. all you "Novices" (newbies) out there...

                      All of you who are reading my post here I need your help with something.

                      Here's the scoop...

                      As novices in the field of IM we are here on this thread to help each other to become successful, Right?

                      Sue, Karen, Justin, and a few others I have helped out on gaining knowledge quickly, Right?

                      Gave some hints on tutorials by Chris Farrell, articles in Ezine and a few tid-bits on how to do basic html stuff.

                      Now I have an idea I want to share with you and I need everyone's help on this...even the newer folks that come in here after this post cause I will more than likely post this again.

                      Hopefully everyone of us by now knows how important it is to have a list of subscribers to market to, right?
                      So... how many of us have started a list? (if not you really need to),
                      and how many of us need a list? (most but we all could have more),
                      and how many of us have a significant list?

                      How many of us have a niche already and are marketing this to it's fullest potential?

                      I have a product that I have been working out some minor details with and I'm ready very soon to launch asking if you are interested to help promote my list... I return the favor with your niche and promote your list, and all of us return the favor with each other niches and the snowball affect starts to help build the list(s) and promote each others products.

                      ANY TAKERS?

                      You all ready to get busy?

                      I know your curiosity may be peaking right now about what it is that I have so I'll tell you...

                      (But not here in the public eye)

                      I will say that it is a product that most of us can use in the internet marketing business with a great give away product.

                      Respond In Novice Nation if any of you want to become involved in this.
                      One hand washes the other, and if it weren't for all of us
                      newbies...uh "Novices" (excuse me)

                      So what do you say? Are you willing to help each other out here?

                      Let me know.
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                      • Profile picture of the author ejmjs
                        Originally Posted by jondavidson View Post

                        So what do you say? Are you willing to help each other out here?
                        Let me know.
                        If I had a list my friend, I would certainly promote whatever it is you want promoting as a helping hand.
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                        • Profile picture of the author Hasan Barbary
                          Oh, yeah, I almost forgot: I'm in the chat room for the next hour, if anyone is online & wants to stop by.

                          To recap (in case this is your 1st time here):

                          my Signature is the link,

                          the chat room is 100% FREE ~ no registration required; no optin; no nuthin.

                          just type in your UserName and you're in!

                          Hope to see you there...
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                      • Profile picture of the author bryce
                        Originally Posted by jondavidson View Post

                        O.K. all you "Novices" (newbies) out there...

                        All of you who are reading my post here I need your help with something.

                        Here's the scoop...

                        As novices in the field of IM we are here on this thread to help each other to become successful, Right?

                        Sue, Karen, Justin, and a few others I have helped out on gaining knowledge quickly, Right?

                        Gave some hints on tutorials by Chris Farrell, articles in Ezine and a few tid-bits on how to do basic html stuff.

                        Now I have an idea I want to share with you and I need everyone's help on this...even the newer folks that come in here after this post cause I will more than likely post this again.

                        Hopefully everyone of us by now knows how important it is to have a list of subscribers to market to, right?
                        So... how many of us have started a list? (if not you really need to),
                        and how many of us need a list? (most but we all could have more),
                        and how many of us have a significant list?

                        How many of us have a niche already and are marketing this to it's fullest potential?

                        I have a product that I have been working out some minor details with and I'm ready very soon to launch asking if you are interested to help promote my list... I return the favor with your niche and promote your list, and all of us return the favor with each other niches and the snowball affect starts to help build the list(s) and promote each others products.

                        ANY TAKERS?

                        You all ready to get busy?

                        I know your curiosity may be peaking right now about what it is that I have so I'll tell you...

                        (But not here in the public eye)

                        I will say that it is a product that most of us can use in the internet marketing business with a great give away product.

                        Respond In Novice Nation if any of you want to become involved in this.
                        One hand washes the other, and if it weren't for all of us
                        newbies...uh "Novices" (excuse me)

                        So what do you say? Are you willing to help each other out here?

                        Let me know.
                        HUH! Whats with all the red type? You trying to catch someones attention, LOL. Hey.... sounds like a great idea Jon!! I am chomping at the bit to find out more. And what about those people who are new but maybe only have 3 or 4 people on their list? Is this something that everyone can participate in?

                        Sounds great so I will be heading to the NN (Novice Nation) very soon to check out the details.
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                        • Profile picture of the author jondavidson
                          Originally Posted by bryce View Post

                          HUH! Whats with all the red type? You trying to catch someones attention, LOL. Hey.... sounds like a great idea Jon!! I am chomping at the bit to find out more. And what about those people who are new but maybe only have 3 or 4 people on their list? Is this something that everyone can participate in?

                          Sounds great so I will be heading to the NN (Novice Nation) very soon to check out the details.
                          I didn't think you would notice! (LOL)
                          Thanks Bryce and I'll be in touch with all of you when this thing of mine hits the ground running...
                          You are all invited to partake 1, 3, 100, 3,000 people on the list. The same goes for all.

                          Hopefully everyone is starting to build a list for the own specific niche. If not, I would recommend it very strongly since once you have trust with people you have on your list and once they buy from you, more than likely they will buy again because of this trust.

                          Now, it may not be for everyone (pending on the niche you are in) but I think it is something that you will all utilize.

                          Until Later.
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                    • Profile picture of the author bryce
                      Originally Posted by ejmjs View Post

                      you having an irish coffee by any chance
                      Hahaha, now thats an idea
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  • Profile picture of the author SpennyJ
    This is a great thread guys! Thanks!
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    • Profile picture of the author bryce
      Originally Posted by SpennyJ View Post

      This is a great thread guys! Thanks!
      You are welcome - hang around there is plenty more coming
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  • Profile picture of the author studio52
    Hi, there are so many new get rich plans that flood our newbie mailboxes, I have had to learn also to put my credit card away, and try and focus on just getting a list going, and making a decision on what niche to at least to start, to focus on, after looking at your homepage, I see you also like the IM niche focusing on newbie start ups.

    Id love to hook up with someone in a JV project, especialy one that has this same focus as above. Id love to create and promote a membership site geared towards a specific amount of time, not a $27 a month site that they eventualy just quit paying for....like I have and Im sure from reading what you have said...you also have.

    I have avoided creating a generic website and instead have been using affiliate sites, in conjunction with my autoresponder, for some revenue and list building..


    Would love to toss around some ideas with someone with similar interests, if interested in chatting about it, let me know, if nothing else, it will be nice to make new friends...

    Ken
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  • Profile picture of the author Hasan Barbary
    @ ejmjs ~ I sent you a PM; read it & meet me in the chatroom
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    • Profile picture of the author ejmjs
      Originally Posted by Hasan Barbary View Post

      @ ejmjs ~ I sent you a PM; read it & meet me in the chatroom
      Sorry mate. Missed ya by about an hour. Went to be at 4am.
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  • Profile picture of the author spacemonkee2010
    Hey everybody. I hope you're all doing great. I'm loving the energy on this thread and am very happy that some of you are working on getting spin off projects going like the chatroom that Hasan set up and the lounge that Bryce has set up. So kudos to you both.
    I think that one of the biggest obstacles that we face as IM NOVICES is a lack of true support. Those who claim to want to support us usually just want money. People in our everyday lives think we're a little kooky and online relationships can be very valuable. I have no doubt that working together we can figure this out and be on our way in no time.
    I love some of the quotes too. Especially the one about live your for a few years...can't remember the rest but got the message and its great.
    Keep up the good work everybody, I'll be around most of the day if anybody's got something they want to chat about.
    Justin
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  • Profile picture of the author spacemonkee2010
    Hey everyone. Well I've got the rough draft of the first website up on the server. I would certainly appreciate some input. Its not very content rich right now, but it's something to start with. Just click >>>here<<< to check it out. I'll be looking forward to hearing comments.
    Justin
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  • Profile picture of the author spacemonkee2010
    Thanks Jon, that's really some great advice and you'll see a lot of that showing up on my site. I love this thread!
    Justin
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    • Profile picture of the author ejmjs
      Originally Posted by Lee234 View Post


      The trick, I've finally discovered, is to get yourself noticed.

      Lee
      It all depends on how you go about getting yourself noticed. You need to be noticed through possitivity and not for being a spammer. Try contributing to a conversation rather than purely for your own gain by advertising your product or affiliate product. You posted the same post 3 times in this 1 forum. That to me shows a little desperation rather than someone who believes in his endevour. Just my 2 cents.
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  • Profile picture of the author bryce
    Originally Posted by michael074 View Post

    Hi Bryce,

    Just registered with the new forum, looking forward to it.

    Have you had a chance to look at the articles I sent you? (I won't be surprised if you haven't, you've had a long day).

    Mike.
    Hi Mike! thats cool, I hope I can get some really interesting material in there, but please treat is as your own! Let someone know if you would like to see something specific.

    I have read the articles you sent through, and they are very good. If you are interested I will PM you with the subject matter for one of the blogs, and see how you go with it.

    I willl send the info through and you can let me know if you are not interested. Thanks again Mike.



    Originally Posted by rkessro View Post

    Hey Bryce
    Just starting out same problems as you were having no list or anything to give away
    What autoresponder to use in other words square one Plus the scam online

    rkessro
    Hi Kessro, and welcome! Yes I remember those days, and can tell you that with patience and commitment they will not last long. Autoresponders are a personal preference, and I use Aweber. Most hosting accounts come with cPanel which has its own (albeit a little more complicated) autoresponder system, and there is also getresponse. There are others and some come with a 30 day trial.

    Hang around the forum and check back for more information. Maybe tell us a little about what you are wanting to do online.

    Originally Posted by spacemonkee2010 View Post

    Hey everyone. Well I've got the rough draft of the first website up on the server. I would certainly appreciate some input. Its not very content rich right now, but it's something to start with. Just click >>>here<<< to check it out. I'll be looking forward to hearing comments.
    Justin
    Hi Justin, checked out the site and using IE7 the page was out of alignment. The adsense was sitting under the content box. I like the subject matter, something all of us are considering these days! Good start my friend. The banner clicked through to the affiliate package okay, but until I clicked on the banner there was no "call to action" indicating that I should in fact click on the image.

    When I went to the affiliate site to check out the product, I was surprised to see an error on the page in the top few lines, and it is these errors that are usually an indicator for me as to the sellers level of commitment to making sure everything is as good as it can be. The error is a simple one, but has an effect. It is here.......

    "You can build your own solar panels, saving $10,00's off retail price?"

    Sorry about the picky little things, but hey - thats me I guess, lol. Hope this helps!
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  • Profile picture of the author spacemonkee2010
    Thanks for the tips Bryce. I noticed the adsense down at the bottom when I was up at my parents showing it them. Funny stuff right there. I was pretty sure I had put some adsense on there, but thought I might have messed something up.
    I'll be working on it tonight and tomorrow and the day after that and the day after that... I've got some really good tips from you guys on this and am very grateful for them. I'll have this thing like I want it in no time. Once again thanks for checking it out and giving me some tips with it. Everybody stay at it and we'll get there.
    Justin
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    • Profile picture of the author bryce
      Originally Posted by spacemonkee2010 View Post

      Thanks for the tips Bryce. I noticed the adsense down at the bottom when I was up at my parents showing it them. Funny stuff right there. I was pretty sure I had put some adsense on there, but thought I might have messed something up.
      I'll be working on it tonight and tomorrow and the day after that and the day after that... I've got some really good tips from you guys on this and am very grateful for them. I'll have this thing like I want it in no time. Once again thanks for checking it out and giving me some tips with it. Everybody stay at it and we'll get there.
      Justin
      you're welcome my friend! its probably just a sizing thing, but its not that difficult to fix these types of things All cosmetic, lol.
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  • Profile picture of the author spacemonkee2010
    Hey everyone, if you're online, there's three of us in the chatroom that Hasan set up.
    Justin
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  • Profile picture of the author yaditya
    Hi everyone

    Having been following this thread since day 1, when Dave posted his money making experiences and difficulties to start this conversation, I could say this is the place that every internet marketer novice should start with. Lots of idiot-proof information from all over the world with only 1 goal, to help each other to make money online!

    Well, I finally decided to post my introduction, my nerves were jumping all around my body since this is my first post here and English is not my first language. Hopefully you guys can understand my limited English Just want to quickly join you guys in the new forum. More introduction on what I am doing now later.

    Stick together team!
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    • Profile picture of the author ejmjs
      Originally Posted by yaditya View Post

      Hi everyone

      Having been following this thread since day 1, when Dave posted his money making experiences and difficulties to start this conversation, I could say this is the place that every internet marketer novice should start with. Lots of idiot-proof information from all over the world with only 1 goal, to help each other to make money online!

      Well, I finally decided to post my introduction, my nerves were jumping all around my body since this is my first post here and English is not my first language. Hopefully you guys can understand my limited English Just want to quickly join you guys in the new forum. More introduction on what I am doing now later.

      Stick together team!
      I must say you have nothing to be nervous about. Your English is better than mine! And I'm English!
      Welcome to the Novice Thread!
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      • Profile picture of the author bryce
        Originally Posted by ejmjs View Post

        I must say you have nothing to be nervous about. Your English is better than mine! And I'm English!
        Welcome to the Novice Thread!
        Damn, I couldnt understand a word of that, LOL
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        • Profile picture of the author ejmjs
          Originally Posted by bryce View Post

          Damn, I couldnt understand a word of that, LOL
          lmao. You should have been in the chatroom last night, errrr this morning, I couldn't undertsand what I was typing. lol
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          • Profile picture of the author bryce
            Originally Posted by ejmjs View Post

            lmao. You should have been in the chatroom last night, errrr this morning, I couldn't undertsand what I was typing. lol
            Hahaha oh yeah I remember some really scary chat sessions over the years, lol - but we wont go there, this is a family forum :p

            Glad you guys are having some fun there tho! I will get there soon, to be sure, to be sure....
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    • Profile picture of the author bryce
      Originally Posted by yaditya View Post

      Hi everyone

      Having been following this thread since day 1, when Dave posted his money making experiences and difficulties to start this conversation, I could say this is the place that every internet marketer novice should start with. Lots of idiot-proof information from all over the world with only 1 goal, to help each other to make money online!

      Well, I finally decided to post my introduction, my nerves were jumping all around my body since this is my first post here and English is not my first language. Hopefully you guys can understand my limited English Just want to quickly join you guys in the new forum. More introduction on what I am doing now later.

      Stick together team!
      Hi there and welcome

      I dont know about this "Limited English" thing, I have seen worse from professors, hahaha. Good to see you in the new forum too my friend, I will be heading over there very soon to do some housework :p

      Dont be nervous, we all started sometime and at the same place as you, so sit back, relax, take a load off, and enjoy the journey!
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  • Profile picture of the author spacemonkee2010
    Welcome to the novice thread. You have nothing to be embarassed about at all. Your English is very good. I haven't went to look, but tell us where you're from if you would. Stay on this thread as its a good one. Come over to the chatroom too!
    Justin
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    • Profile picture of the author yaditya
      Originally Posted by spacemonkee2010 View Post

      Welcome to the novice thread. You have nothing to be embarassed about at all. Your English is very good. I haven't went to look, but tell us where you're from if you would. Stay on this thread as its a good one. Come over to the chatroom too!
      Justin
      Thanks for the warm welcome ejmjs and Justin, and thanks for the encouragement. I am from Indonesia and now staying in Sydney. Maybe you find not many Indonesians following and posting to this thread, as we're running behind in terms of IM and online income stuff.

      I will definitely stay around on this thread, I need to learn more and more on what you guys do to build a successful online business.

      Justin, unfortunately I can't join chatroom, maybe my office block such an access to 3rd party chat .. I will try it again later in the evening after work (it's 1.17 PM now in Sydney). Look forward to join you guys!
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  • Profile picture of the author spacemonkee2010
    Hey everyone, I had a few thoughts tonight that i wanted to share with the thread. I was over in the chatroom with Hasan and Mark (ejmjs is Mark) and it was awesome. We got to know each other better and shared some ideas and reviewed each others sites. We also talked about the amazing energy that is building on this thread.

    I think there are still a lot of people that are viewing this thread and not posting too much. To those folks I just want to say that you're missing one of those absolutely amazing opportunities. A group is building here that we don't see popping up everyday. You've seen some of the great feedback that I've got on my site and it will make me more successful. You have people who are willing to put some time into checking out what you're doing and give you advice.

    And by you throwing out questions on this board, everybody gets to see the question and the answer and can use that. I am by no means trying to get on anybody's case but I've tried this a time or two and possibly the biggest element that I was missing was support. There's a real opportunity here. So post what you're working on, go over to the Novice Nation and the chatroom that Hasan set up.

    Action is the only way that we're going to make this happen, so jump on it. Don't be embarassed to ask questions. We've got to ask questions to learn. I want to see us have a small network of internet millionaires here that can get together in jv's and make $100,000 in a week with a project. Its possible. Come on folks take advantage of this resource...these don't come around every day.

    In the spirit of practicing what I preach, I'm looking to drive some traffic to my site with adwords. Does anybody have any tips or ideas about getting coupons for free adwords credits. I've seen a couple of places out there to do this, but figured I'd try to get some input first. Might as well get as much as we can for free huh?

    Happiness to everyone,
    Justin
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    • Profile picture of the author bryce
      Originally Posted by spacemonkee2010 View Post

      Hey everyone, I had a few thoughts tonight that i wanted to share with the thread. I was over in the chatroom with Hasan and Mark (ejmjs is Mark) and it was awesome. We got to know each other better and shared some ideas and reviewed each others sites. We also talked about the amazing energy that is building on this thread.

      I think there are still a lot of people that are viewing this thread and not posting too much. To those folks I just want to say that you're missing one of those absolutely amazing opportunities. A group is building here that we don't see popping up everyday. You've seen some of the great feedback that I've got on my site and it will make me more successful. You have people who are willing to put some time into checking out what you're doing and give you advice.

      And by you throwing out questions on this board, everybody gets to see the question and the answer and can use that. I am by no means trying to get on anybody's case but I've tried this a time or two and possibly the biggest element that I was missing was support. There's a real opportunity here. So post what you're working on, go over to the Novice Nation and the chatroom that Hasan set up.

      Action is the only way that we're going to make this happen, so jump on it. Don't be embarassed to ask questions. We've got to ask questions to learn. I want to see us have a small network of internet millionaires here that can get together in jv's and make $100,000 in a week with a project. Its possible. Come on folks take advantage of this resource...these don't come around every day.

      In the spirit of practicing what I preach, I'm looking to drive some traffic to my site with adwords. Does anybody have any tips or ideas about getting coupons for free adwords credits. I've seen a couple of places out there to do this, but figured I'd try to get some input first. Might as well get as much as we can for free huh?

      Happiness to everyone,
      Justin
      Hey Justin, cool about you guys getting more aquainted in the chat room! I have been there a couple of times, and nobody was home :confused:, hehehe - but hey the day is young! I know I will make it there when others are there, one day soon.

      You are doing a great job encouraging people and motivating the troops, I applaud you for that. I agree there are a lot more people watching this thread than those that post, you just need to look at the numbers I think we are heading to almost 4000 views now, and considering how long it has been up, well that isnt too bad is it?! This "loitering" (as I like to term it) is what fueled the idea for Novice Nation.

      So yes I agree, If there are people that are reading this thread, who are genuinely in need of support and assistance, dont be afraid to leap in, introduce yourself, and get involved. Justin is right, these types of things don't come around every day!
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      • Profile picture of the author ejmjs
        Originally Posted by bryce View Post

        Hey Justin, cool about you guys getting more aquainted in the chat room! I have been there a couple of times, and nobody was home :confused:, hehehe - but hey the day is young! I know I will make it there when others are there, one day soon.

        You are doing a great job encouraging people and motivating the troops, I applaud you for that. I agree there are a lot more people watching this thread than those that post, you just need to look at the numbers I think we are heading to almost 4000 views now, and considering how long it has been up, well that isnt too bad is it?! This "loitering" (as I like to term it) is what fueled the idea for Novice Nation.

        So yes I agree, If there are people that are reading this thread, who are genuinely in need of support and assistance, dont be afraid to leap in, introduce yourself, and get involved. Justin is right, these types of things don't come around every day!
        Here here! I want to back both bryce and Justins Statements. We are all Novices that have a lot to learn. We all know different bits and pieces but combined we know a great deal. So share knowledge and we shall all share in success!
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  • Profile picture of the author Hasan Barbary
    @ jondavidson ~ I will certaintly head over to Novice Nation & see if you've posted any juicy details there...
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  • Profile picture of the author ejmjs
    Theres 3 of us in the chatroom right now! All newb.... err Novices welcome!

    EDIT: We had 4 of is there for a while but now we have gone to do a bit of work. Gotta keep on workin on getting to the top baby!
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  • Profile picture of the author spacemonkee2010
    Hey everyone! I hope you're all well and had a productive day. I have worked hard today in my first video endeavor and am proud to say that no matter how ugly it might look, our first foray into video marketing is pretty inspiring. We think that we've hit on something here and will share all that we can on our way.

    Please go check out The Declaration on youtube and see what it is all about. We would certainly appreciate a comment or two to get the comments flowing a little bit more. You can access it by clicking .

    Jon, I saw your post and at this point, I don't have a list at all. I'm going to implement a plan to start building one this week. In the meantime, I'm an idea machine and would love to help you come up with ways to get this thing off the ground. I'm on skype and yahoo as spacemonkee2010. Lets talk.

    The video that we've posted is called The Declaration. It started by us writing down a goal. We decided that we wanted something stronger than a goal however. We wanted a definite place that we wanted to go. Thus was born The Declaration.

    Set yourself a goal. If you're procrastinating right now, then stop and pick up a pen and paper and decide what it would take for you to at least be comfortable. By writing this down you fire different sections of the brain which make you remember it more. Set yourself a date.

    Brad and I advertised that we would would have a series pilot up tonight. Had we not done that, we probably would not have had it done today. Setting yourself goals is such a major key to achieving success that is CANT be under-stated. Write it down folks, and then figure out how to do it. You have help right here, ready to help.

    I apologize for being so long winded, but we had a really good day here at The Marketing Madmen House and have been celebrating a good bit (we had some really good things happen tonight) and I'm feeling sentimental about it all. Go watch our video and see what its about. This is going to be fun!!!!!!!
    Justin
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    • Profile picture of the author bryce
      Originally Posted by spacemonkee2010 View Post

      I apologize for being so long winded, but we had a really good day here at The Marketing Madmen House and have been celebrating a good bit (we had some really good things happen tonight) and I'm feeling sentimental about it all. Go watch our video and see what its about. This is going to be fun!!!!!!!
      Justin
      Hi Justin,

      Great news my friend, and another inspiring message to all! I will be heading over to YT now, to check out this video, and will leave a comment there.

      Well done, I can almost feel the adrenalin pumping
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    • Profile picture of the author jondavidson
      Originally Posted by spacemonkee2010 View Post

      Jon, I saw your post and at this point, I don't have a list at all. I'm going to implement a plan to start building one this week. In the meantime, I'm an idea machine and would love to help you come up with ways to get this thing off the ground. I'm on skype and yahoo as spacemonkee2010. Lets talk.

      The video that we've posted is called The Declaration. It started by us writing down a goal. We decided that we wanted something stronger than a goal however. We wanted a definite place that we wanted to go. Thus was born The Declaration.

      Right on Brad & Justin!

      Cool video and I just love the positive attitude! Yeah... My Motto sticks out in that one... (LOL) "Failure is NOT An Option"

      To critique a bit if I may:
      Audio... try to get the levels around the same. Do you guys have a mixer of any kind?
      There are some free trial audio mixers for MP3/WAV but not sure about how it all work on YT. Haven't got to this point but am not far behind in promoting my project.

      Justin, I will be in touch with you in the near future and utilize "La Machine" in building ideas. It all helps here and on the Novice program.

      That's what it's all about ...helping each of us to success....once again...I see the motivation flowing! Congrats Guys on your video and your Declaration! Never Give Up!

      Until Later.
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  • Profile picture of the author pearlydean
    Hi everyone,
    I am fairly new to WF and found this thread so presume I qualify!

    Having recently closed an offline business due to the recession I am now pursuing Internet Marketing full time. I have purchased a few good products including Mass Control from Frank Kern and am ploughing through that now.

    I have also built a couple of blogs and am just finishing a product for a WSO here very soon based on another business I ran online up until last xmas.

    I am very interested in helping any way I can, my main skills being sales both offline and online with over 30 years experience!

    I will actively join in here and have joined Novice Nation too.

    Hope to speak to all of you soon and thank everyone for some great information here already.

    Cheers Keith
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    • Profile picture of the author bryce
      Originally Posted by pearlydean View Post

      Hi everyone,
      I am fairly new to WF and found this thread so presume I qualify!

      Having recently closed an offline business due to the recession I am now pursuing Internet Marketing full time. I have purchased a few good products including Mass Control from Frank Kern and am ploughing through that now.

      I have also built a couple of blogs and am just finishing a product for a WSO here very soon based on another business I ran online up until last xmas.

      I am very interested in helping any way I can, my main skills being sales both offline and online with over 30 years experience!

      I will actively join in here and have joined Novice Nation too.

      Hope to speak to all of you soon and thank everyone for some great information here already.

      Cheers Keith
      Hello Keith and welcome to the thread!

      Sorry about your offline business mate, I know the recession is hurting a lot of people in a lot of countries, and we are all on shaky ground I think. Ahhhh but not here, well at least as long as we have access to power

      Your experience sounds great, having been in sales most of my life in one capacity or another, it is a skill set than crosses many boundaries to provide some level of security. I am sure we can all benefit from whatever you decide to contribute.

      Welcom to NN as well, I have signed you in over there so you are good to go whenever you feel like it.
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    • Profile picture of the author ejmjs
      Originally Posted by pearlydean View Post

      Hi everyone,

      I will actively join in here and have joined Novice Nation too.

      Hope to speak to all of you soon and thank everyone for some great information here already.

      Cheers Keith
      Welcome buddy! Glad to see our power house growing.
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      • Profile picture of the author Hasan Barbary
        @ pearlydean

        Welcome to "the Little Thread that Could"! I think you'll find a lot of highly-motivated people here, willing to learn from your experience, and perhaps share theirs as well.

        Your sales background gives you a huge headstart. If I had to pinpoint the "Achilles Heel" of the sterotypical "newbie", it's their belief that "Internet Marketing" means if they really like the Internet, and spend all day online, then they can get rich just by doing so.

        Sadly, no. It's the "M" in IM that really matters.

        There's a TON of enthusiasm and high hopes in this thread, and I hope you'll profit from it. As a "palate cleanser" or "reality check", I also really like this one, too:

        Why Newbies Fail

        Anyways, glad to have you aboard!
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  • Profile picture of the author spacemonkee2010
    Hey everybody! Welcome to the thread Keith its great to have you here and we all look forward to getting to know you better. Feel free to IM me on either of my messengers sometime.
    I would like to thank everyone who viewed and commented on our videos. We've gotten a good deal of activity in both places thanks to some of you guys. So I appreciate it very much
    Justin
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    • Profile picture of the author Hasan Barbary
      Hey, gang ~ I just wanted to share some good news:

      Google updated their servers today, and my Amazon store got a Page Rank bump from 0 to 2 overnight! Considering that I purchased the domain name 6 1/2 weeks ago, and the e-commerce site didn't even get indexed until May 22nd, I'm pretty stoked!

      Now I know, PR has no direct correlation to SERP's or how much targeted traffic I get... but it does show the rest of the world how "authoritative" Google deems your site to be. Page Rank helps build your brand. So, if I can go from unknown to PR2 in 33 days, just wait til I've had 3 or 6 months to promote!

      This IM business can be a lonely exercise sometimes. I'll confess, after creating 60+ pages of rich multimedia content for my website, and toiling away for HUNDREDS OF HOURS on html, css, and php, and then it seemed like the first few visitors just didn't get what I was offering, well, I got frustrated and a little burned-out.

      This small recognition from Google was just the lift I needed. In fact, I'm so jazzed, I think I'll do some more midnight backlinking :p

      If you're curious, here's my Flash-happy PR2 super-site in the making (lol)

      The Snowball Affiliates Pro Shop

      I want to thank everyone here for the positive feedback in general, and remind you that hard work has it rewards ~ so keep on keepin' on!
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      • Profile picture of the author jondavidson
        Originally Posted by Hasan Barbary View Post

        Hey, gang ~ I just wanted to share some good news:

        Google updated their servers today, and my Amazon store got a Page Rank bump from 0 to 2 overnight! Considering that I purchased the domain name 6 1/2 weeks ago, and the e-commerce site didn't even get indexed until May 22nd, I'm pretty stoked!

        Now I know, PR has no direct correlation to SERP's or how much targeted traffic I get... but it does show the rest of the world how "authoritative" Google deems your site to be. Page Rank helps build your brand. So, if I can go from unknown to PR2 in 33 days, just wait til I've had 3 or 6 months to promote!

        This IM business can be a lonely exercise sometimes. I'll confess, after creating 60+ pages of rich multimedia content for my website, and toiling away for HUNDREDS OF HOURS on html, css, and php, and then it seemed like the first few visitors just didn't get what I was offering, well, I got frustrated and a little burned-out.

        This small recognition from Google was just the lift I needed. In fact, I'm so jazzed, I think I'll do some more midnight backlinking :p

        If you're curious, here's my Flash-happy PR2 super-site in the making (lol)



        I want to thank everyone here for the positive feedback in general, and remind you that hard work has it rewards ~ so keep on keepin' on!

        Very Cool Man! Congrats!
        Took a walk through your site. Good Job!
        Success sometimes comes in small packages doesn't it?
        That is a full step forward, for sure.

        Left you a reply on NN by the way.

        Until later.
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      • Profile picture of the author ejmjs
        Originally Posted by Hasan Barbary View Post

        Hey, gang ~ I just wanted to share some good news:

        Google updated their servers today, and my Amazon store got a Page Rank bump from 0 to 2 overnight! Considering that I purchased the domain name 6 1/2 weeks ago, and the e-commerce site didn't even get indexed until May 22nd, I'm pretty stoked!

        Now I know, PR has no direct correlation to SERP's or how much targeted traffic I get... but it does show the rest of the world how "authoritative" Google deems your site to be. Page Rank helps build your brand. So, if I can go from unknown to PR2 in 33 days, just wait til I've had 3 or 6 months to promote!

        This IM business can be a lonely exercise sometimes. I'll confess, after creating 60+ pages of rich multimedia content for my website, and toiling away for HUNDREDS OF HOURS on html, css, and php, and then it seemed like the first few visitors just didn't get what I was offering, well, I got frustrated and a little burned-out.

        This small recognition from Google was just the lift I needed. In fact, I'm so jazzed, I think I'll do some more midnight backlinking :p

        If you're curious, here's my Flash-happy PR2 super-site in the making (lol)

        The Snowball Affiliates Pro Shop

        I want to thank everyone here for the positive feedback in general, and remind you that hard work has it rewards ~ so keep on keepin' on!

        Gongrats man! You totally deserve that! Well done bro. Goes to show ya that the hard work always pays off in the end!
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        • Profile picture of the author spacemonkee2010
          Awesome job Hasan. Its nice to get those little rewards like that isn't it? I checked out the website and it looks great! Good job!
          Justin
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            • Profile picture of the author Cassie18
              I am so grateful for Bryce sending me to this forum. I am a novice for sure and am learning so much by just reading these threads. Sue, Karen and others are asking the questions that I need answered so that is really helpful. My problem is that I can't reply or ask questions on some of the other forums because I am finding one needs to have a certain amount of posts to reply. I am sure that will change if I follow through and order some of the wso's I'm interested in. Looking forward to this new chapter!!!
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              • Profile picture of the author ejmjs
                Originally Posted by acufftg View Post

                My name is Tarron Acuff. I have been following this thread for newbies. I also like the ideas for helping newbies.

                I do have a site for newbies that need traffic..... add me on yahoo mess for link ( site is almost done)

                I would love to help out any way I can.

                Yahoo messager... tarron.acuff (add me)


                Thanks

                Tarron
                Originally Posted by Cassie18 View Post

                I am so greatful for Bryce sending me to this forum. I am a novice for sure and am learning so much by just reading these threads. Sue, Karen and others are asking the questions that I need answered so that is really helpful. My problem is that I can't reply or ask questions on some of the other forums because I am finding one needs to have a certain amount of posts to reply. I am sure that will change if I follow through and order some of the wso's I'm interested in. Looking forward to this new chapter!!!
                Welcome to the thread!
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              • Profile picture of the author bryce
                Originally Posted by Cassie18 View Post

                I am so grateful for Bryce sending me to this forum. I am a novice for sure and am learning so much by just reading these threads. Sue, Karen and others are asking the questions that I need answered so that is really helpful. My problem is that I can't reply or ask questions on some of the other forums because I am finding one needs to have a certain amount of posts to reply. I am sure that will change if I follow through and order some of the wso's I'm interested in. Looking forward to this new chapter!!!
                hello there my friend! Glad you could make it on over, and so happy to see that you have already started to enjoy the content here. Regarding your post limits, just post away! You will find that most forums have areas like "Off Topic" and "Say Hello" etc, although not always do these areas contribute to post count. Check the guidelines on the respective forum, to see what post count conditions there are and just post...

                I hope you get some real benefit from being on this thread, and remember "There is no such thing as a silly question"
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            • Profile picture of the author bryce
              Originally Posted by acufftg View Post

              My name is Tarron Acuff. I have been following this thread for newbies. I also like the ideas for helping newbies.

              I do have a site for newbies that need traffic..... add me on yahoo mess for link ( site is almost done)

              I would love to help out any way I can.

              Yahoo messager... tarron.acuff (add me)


              Thanks

              Tarron
              Hi Tarron, and welcome to the thread! I can appreciate that your site may need traffic, and that you may want to help! Maybe hang around a bit here, and build up some helpful posts, then people will happily wander over to your site.

              Maybe you could explain a little more about what skills or experience you have to assist "novices" in their quest to make an income online. I would look forward to seeing this.
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      • Profile picture of the author studio52
        Originally Posted by Hasan Barbary View Post

        Hey, gang ~ I just wanted to share some good news:

        Google updated their servers today, and my Amazon store got a Page Rank bump from 0 to 2 overnight! Considering that I purchased the domain name 6 1/2 weeks ago, and the e-commerce site didn't even get indexed until May 22nd, I'm pretty stoked!

        Now I know, PR has no direct correlation to SERP's or how much targeted traffic I get... but it does show the rest of the world how "authoritative" Google deems your site to be. Page Rank helps build your brand. So, if I can go from unknown to PR2 in 33 days, just wait til I've had 3 or 6 months to promote!

        This IM business can be a lonely exercise sometimes. I'll confess, after creating 60+ pages of rich multimedia content for my website, and toiling away for HUNDREDS OF HOURS on html, css, and php, and then it seemed like the first few visitors just didn't get what I was offering, well, I got frustrated and a little burned-out.

        This small recognition from Google was just the lift I needed. In fact, I'm so jazzed, I think I'll do some more midnight backlinking :p

        If you're curious, here's my Flash-happy PR2 super-site in the making (lol)

        The Snowball Affiliates Pro Shop

        I want to thank everyone here for the positive feedback in general, and remind you that hard work has it rewards ~ so keep on keepin' on!
        Hasan, I checked out your ebook, and your amazon site, really nice, almost jumped onboard right away, but I have done that way too many times, so Im doing some research, but it seems pretty amazing, is pay pal a payment option?, seems like the pro membership is just awesome, but as I did say, have found many that just seemed awesome but was let down again and again..looking to succeed this time around.

        Ken
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        • Profile picture of the author Hasan Barbary
          Originally Posted by studio52 View Post

          Hasan, I checked out your ebook, and your amazon site, really nice, almost jumped onboard right away, but I have done that way too many times, so Im doing some research, but it seems pretty amazing, is pay pal a payment option?, seems like the pro membership is just awesome, but as I did say, have found many that just seemed awesome but was let down again and again..looking to succeed this time around.

          Ken
          Hey, Ken ~

          I appreciate you giving my program a look. For folks who are interested in selling Amazon products, but don't have their own site, or are intimidated by the technical details of setting up lots of affiliate links, then yes, I agree... the Pro Membership is awesome.

          Regarding getting excited about other programs, and then getting let down, let me be very clear about my own experience:

          THERE IS NO MAGIC BULLET!

          There are thousands of programs, products, membership sites, ebooks, WSO's etc etc etc available in this forum. Many of them are good deals, but ONLY IF you follow through 110%.

          I'm having modest success because I have a clear, written Action Plan that I use for myself as well as my members. I work full-time at this driving traffic, adding content, and doing 1,001 other things to grow my business. Mostly, I'm tenacious. When it comes to IM, or any other entrepreneurial venture, you have to be like a pitbull with a porkchop (one of my favorite expressions, lol). You work hard, then you work some more. I don't know any genuinely successful business people who would refute this.

          So, Ken, whether you decide to become a member of my site or not, I wish you tenacity first. Because it's a requisite for any online success.

          And, yes, I ONLY use PayPal.

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    • Profile picture of the author jondavidson
      Justin,
      Sent you a PM on a product a friend of
      mine just sent me.
      Maybe you could incorporate in your niche..
      Just a thought.
      Later.
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  • Profile picture of the author David Chamberlain
    Hey Guys

    Does anybody here buy and sell websites, or know anybody that does?

    I am helping to run a new site SiteDeal.org

    Check it out and tell me what you think!

    Thanks

    Dave
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    • Profile picture of the author DesignWarrior
      Originally Posted by David Chamberlain View Post

      Hey Guys

      Does anybody here buy and sell websites, or know anybody that does?

      I am helping to sun a new site sitedeal org

      Check it out and tell me what you think!

      Thanks

      Dave
      I was liking the site somewhat, until I happened to notice
      Buy and Sell Websites for Free
      Then directly across the page, there is a fees tab. So is the site FREE or are there fees? Might be something you need to clear up before you start marketing.
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      • Profile picture of the author bryce
        Originally Posted by DesignWarrior View Post

        I was liking the site somewhat, until I happened to notice
        Then directly across the page, there is a fees tab. So is the site FREE or are there fees? Might be something you need to clear up before you start marketing.
        Welcome Designwarrior
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    • Profile picture of the author bryce
      Originally Posted by David Chamberlain View Post

      Hey Guys

      Does anybody here buy and sell websites, or know anybody that does?

      I am helping to run a new site SiteDeal.org

      Check it out and tell me what you think!

      Thanks

      Dave
      hahaha cool - I do! And I was in the process of completing my site at www.sites4sale.aceslegacy.com before starting on this thread I will check it out!!

      Oh and btw Dave, sorry I missed you. Hope you have a cool holiday, and if you are near your PC during the break, let me know. Things got hectic here again with Ethans music. He has a show coming up in 2 days, then its back to normal.

      B
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    • Profile picture of the author Kezz
      Originally Posted by David Chamberlain View Post

      Hey Guys

      Does anybody here buy and sell websites, or know anybody that does?

      I am helping to run a new site SiteDeal.org

      Check it out and tell me what you think!

      Thanks

      Dave
      Hey Dave,

      I checked out the site yesterday, and I really like what I see!

      The ability to have your own store is awesome. I really love the whole setup.

      Working on the finishing touches of a site to list hopefully today.

      Congratulations on such a good job. I think it's gonna go great!
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  • Profile picture of the author David Chamberlain
    Hi

    Its free to list them, it's just extra for the special features. (highlighting, featured listing etc)

    Thanks

    Dave
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    • Profile picture of the author Cassie18
      Thanks for the welcome, EJMJS. I have a lot of reading and learning to do. I appreciate the fact that people seem so willing to help out.
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      • Profile picture of the author ejmjs
        Originally Posted by Cassie18 View Post

        Thanks for the welcome, EJMJS. I have a lot of reading and learning to do. I appreciate the fact that people seem so willing to help out.
        Yeah they are a great bunch!
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        • Profile picture of the author spacemonkee2010
          Wow, we're really picking up some steam aren't we. I noticed that NN was blowing up as well. Good call on getting that up Bryce! I talked to Hasan for a little bit this afternoon in his chatroom and he put me onto a WSO for ghost writers, so thanks Hasan. And now we get to welcome two more people to the thread. Good stuff right here.

          Cassie, have no fear you are in the right place and in pretty good hands from everything I've seen. These guys are great. They're willing to really go look at your work and give you some tips that will help you out.

          Design Warrior, nice to have you hear as well, and chiming in and participating. Stick around, as good things are on their way.

          David, the site looks good man. I'll be watching to see how this works out. I actually have some websites that I might throw on there...see if it works out.

          Tarron, good to have you here as well. Ah yeah, a yahoo man like me. I'm just starting to use skype, but have loved yahoo messenger for many years.

          We've had to do a little restructuring with all of our stuff. We learned a lesson, I should say! It appears we were a bit overzealous about getting something launched. The aff product we're promoting does solar panels and windmills both. So we've changed the name of the site. I'll post it as soon as I get it up on the server, but I've put up a redesigned page as well at www.easysolarinfo.com

          I'm much happier with it. We're prepping for to start pushing traffic to it. We're just waiting on our tech guy to get it up on the server. I've got a few of you I need to get back with individually but I hope everyone had a great day and keep pluggin away at it!
          Justin
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          • Profile picture of the author bryce
            Originally Posted by spacemonkee2010 View Post

            We've had to do a little restructuring with all of our stuff. We learned a lesson, I should say! It appears we were a bit overzealous about getting something launched. The aff product we're promoting does solar panels and windmills both. So we've changed the name of the site. I'll post it as soon as I get it up on the server, but I've put up a redesigned page as well at www.easysolarinfo.com

            I'm much happier with it. We're prepping for to start pushing traffic to it. We're just waiting on our tech guy to get it up on the server. I've got a few of you I need to get back with individually but I hope everyone had a great day and keep pluggin away at it!
            Justin
            Hi Justin, Like the new site mate! I like the simplicity and the fact that adsense is offset to the right of the page. Looks cool
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            • Profile picture of the author bryce
              Hi all,

              Well I have finally found some spare minutes to come on and check how this thread is going. MAN! 4770 views and 61 contributors, not too bad at all Dave ) Thanks to Dave for starting the thread and re-launching the inspiration.

              There is a lot of good content happenng here and even better content happening already on Novice Nation. I just wanted to add something about the registration on Novice Nation, so that there is no confusion.

              One of the most important things about registration there (at this point in time) is that YOU MUST HAVE POSTED IN THIS THREAD first. I have had a couple of registration requests this morning, and I cant find the people here at all. So either (a) they have not posted here, or (b) they are using a different username. Either way, I have emailed these peple with a nice message outlining the criteria, and asking them to post here, or provide correct details.

              Please understand we are not shutting people out over there, we just want to take the content in this thread a little bit deeper over there, discussing what we consider to be private and sensitive details about ideas, business opportunities, and other things. Our ONLY focus is HELP NOVICE's in theri effort to get something happening online.

              So in a nutshell, (a) when registering at Novice Nation, please make sure that you have posted here first, and (b) you use the same username as you use here. (c) you must also be considered a NOVICE (es Newbie) and we determine this by your post count on the Warrior Forum, and your level of success and understanding, from the posts you have here.

              Thanks to everyone who has contributed to this thread so far. It will continue and get bigger all the time. If you are not yet registered at NN, and you feel that it may be for you, shoot over there at your convemience and take a look. For obvious reasons there are a number of sub-forums closed to visitors, but easily accessible to registered members. Enjoy! and Thankyou
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              • Profile picture of the author Cassie18
                Thanks, spacemonkee2010. I viewed your declaration video a little while ago. You both seem very comfortable and at ease and did a good job. Right now I am just being a sponge and trying to absorb any information I can. I feel kind of bad because I have nothing to offer the kind folks who have been giving good advice and free info. What I realized after reading on this forum for hours on end, is that I have to set up a plan, find a niche, and then set goals. It is confusing because I don't really know where to start and I want to avoid the information overload that is often talked about. This will probably take quite a while for me because every step of the way I will have to look up info or ask for help. Time is not an issue for me since I was just laid off from Harley Davidson. I have not purchased anything yet but have seen a few wso's that I want to get my hands on. So good luck to with your ventures and I'm sure our paths will cross again.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sue Harrison
    One small step forward for mankind - well me anyway

    After suffering day after day of information overload, but still continuing to read and learn, I finally did something constructive 2 days ago. I think I mentioned on another post somewhere that I already have 3 websites, all 3 are completely different from each other. One advertises local businesses in a small area of the UK (and generates a small income), another has so far just been "a fun thing to do" - making personalised chocolate bar wrappers (it's a long story how that came about) and the final one was created just to promote my husband's pool cleaning business here in Menorca.

    Anyway, I decided affiliate marketing is the way for me to go initially and contacted a travel company to see if I could add an affiliate link on my Menorca site and they emailed me back yesterday and said they would like to have a link on my site and would pay me £20 a month to do so - talk about suprised Just need to get the logo and wording they want to use.

    Ok, I know it's not alot of money in the grand scheme of things but it has given me a huge buzz, particularly as it was the result of just one email. I had never looked at my website as an income generator, or even considered it - now though, I can see there are all sorts of possibilities.

    Just thought I would share my bit of good news, but must go now - I can hear the coffee shouting
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    • Profile picture of the author bryce
      Originally Posted by Sue Harrison View Post

      One small step forward for mankind - well me anyway

      After suffering day after day of information overload, but still continuing to read and learn, I finally did something constructive 2 days ago. I think I mentioned on another post somewhere that I already have 3 websites, all 3 are completely different from each other. One advertises local businesses in a small area of the UK (and generates a small income), another has so far just been "a fun thing to do" - making personalised chocolate bar wrappers (it's a long story how that came about) and the final one was created just to promote my husband's pool cleaning business here in Menorca.

      Anyway, I decided affiliate marketing is the way for me to go initially and contacted a travel company to see if I could add an affiliate link on my Menorca site and they emailed me back yesterday and said they would like to have a link on my site and would pay me £20 a month to do so - talk about suprised Just need to get the logo and wording they want to use.

      Ok, I know it's not alot of money in the grand scheme of things but it has given me a huge buzz, particularly as it was the result of just one email. I had never looked at my website as an income generator, or even considered it - now though, I can see there are all sorts of possibilities.

      Just thought I would share my bit of good news, but must go now - I can hear the coffee shouting
      Hey Sue! Pull out another mug and I'll have one with you (a coffee that is ) That is FANTASTIC news about the link for the travel agansy! You are on your way to big things. 20pound is 20pound, and it all mounts up. Build up your testimonials too, when they have been linking for a while, and maybe even see if they will offer a 2% or 5% discount to any customers that come from your site. Keep track of records and traffic that you send them, and this is all good for any future business. Well done Sue, congrats!
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      • Profile picture of the author spacemonkee2010
        Well done indeed Sue. Hey anytime our income goes up as newbies, excuse me NOVICES, its an exciting thing. I can understand fully and its those kinds of events that make you keep going. You read and read and read, and then something comes together to make you remember what you were doing all that reading for (this is for you too Cassie). We've had that experience here at our house and it feels good. If you put your sites up here, some of us would be happy to go check them out and give you tips.

        Cassie, hang in there and keep absorbing and being the sponge. You just saw how things happened with Sue and we've had the same thing here. Plug away like hell, and all of the sudden something makes sense. Its satisfying!

        Our entire focus has shifted one more time. I know Jon (find a plan, stick with the plan). We really think we have stumbled upon an opportunity that we just can't pass up. I'm still working on a way to pull you guys into it somehow and don't want to give away too much just yet, but we'll have another video out in a couple of days and some other things happening very quickly. Now that we're getting a feel for things, its time to rock!
        Justin
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    • Profile picture of the author Karen Connell
      Originally Posted by Sue Harrison View Post

      One small step forward for mankind - well me anyway


      Anyway, I decided affiliate marketing is the way for me to go initially and contacted a travel company to see if I could add an affiliate link on my Menorca site and they emailed me back yesterday and said they would like to have a link on my site and would pay me £20 a month to do so - talk about suprised Just need to get the logo and wording they want to use.

      Ok, I know it's not alot of money in the grand scheme of things but it has given me a huge buzz, particularly as it was the result of just one email. I had never looked at my website as an income generator, or even considered it - now though, I can see there are all sorts of possibilities.

      Just thought I would share my bit of good news, but must go now - I can hear the coffee shouting
      Wow, Great stuff Sue,

      Just think of the possibilities now - this month £20 - this time next year Who knows... we could all be coming to you for advice.
      Brilliant News. Well done!

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      • Profile picture of the author Sue Harrison
        Originally Posted by Dhrousha View Post

        Wow, Great stuff Sue,

        Just think of the possibilities now - this month £20 - this time next year Who knows... we could all be coming to you for advice.
        Brilliant News. Well done!

        Karen
        lol - I don't think so Karen - I would like to think that in a year's time I might be able to give something back, rather than taking all the time
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  • Profile picture of the author Sue Harrison
    Thanks Bryce - it was certainly the boost I needed. I had no intention of giving up anyway but one of the biggest problems I have with putting anything into action is FEAR

    Fear of what? Fear of:
    • Choosing the wrong product/program to promote
    • Failing with whichever I go with
    • Writing cr*p articles that no-one wants to read (I can't afford for someone else to do them at the moment).
    • Actually doing something
    I'm sure there are many more things I could list but the subject of fear has been brought up in quite a number of threads on here, and in articles I have read. The more I read about it, the more I realised I was (and still am to a degree) suffering very much from it and that it stops me from taking any action.

    Fortunately, I am starting to turn my thinking around and getting things more in perspective - it's a bit like learning to drive (only not so dangerous ). There is no way you could get into a car for the very first time and drive off to the shops - you would be pretty unlikely to even get out of the driveway. How many times did I stall the car, crash the gears, hit the kerb, when learning to drive? Lots, but I persevered and eventually passed my test - not as quickly as some, and more quickly than others. It didn't matter - I got there in the end. There were times when I felt like giving up (after failing my test for the 3rd time) - what did I do - changed my instructor - the first one used to shout at me a lot and then gave me sweets to say sorry. The new instructor told me that intelligent people tend to fail their tests more (what a little love he was) and my confidence was instantly renewed. The biggest thing he did was change my mindset - up until that point I had always taken my driving test with the thought that "I will probably fail", "I'm never going to pass" etc. etc. I approached my fourth and final test in a completely different way - I knew I could drive, and drive well, and instead of worrying what the examiner was thinking, I just concentrated on what I was doing, and passed. Mind you I was a quivering wreck when he told me I had passed

    Crikey, didn't intend to write yet another war and peace, just wanted to give my thoughts on what a difference actually doing something makes. It doesn't matter how big or small that first step is, once you actually get engrossed in doing something/producing something, you forget about all the obstacles you put in your way, how many times you fall over etc. - does that make sense:confused:

    Another coffee I think - no wonder I can't sleep at night
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    • Profile picture of the author jondavidson
      Originally Posted by Sue Harrison View Post

      Fear of what? Fear of:
      • Choosing the wrong product/program to promote
      • Failing with whichever I go with
      • Writing cr*p articles that no-one wants to read (I can't afford for someone else to do them at the moment).
      • Actually doing something
      I'm sure there are many more things I could list but the subject of fear has been brought up in quite a number of threads on here, and in articles I have read. The more I read about it, the more I realised I was (and still am to a degree) suffering very much from it and that it stops me from taking any action.
      Hi Sue,

      Let me add a thought and a couple of quotes on fear if I might.
      Everyone goes through it and it's the fear of the unknown is what really has us bugged...will we be successful at what we do? These types of thoughts always plague us...but. set your mind at ease, here is something to ponder on fear and failure:

      "If you don't try, you won't know"
      "If you think you failed, you didn't because you succeeded at learning"

      "You always pass failure on the way to success"...Mickey Rooney

      "Nothing in life is to be feared, it is only to be understood. Now is the time to understand more, so that we may fear less"....Marie Curie

      Later
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      • Profile picture of the author ejmjs
        Popped in to see how things are going. Thought it had been quiet in here until my browser finally decided it would refresh and update the data. Wow everyone has been busy. Nice to see Sue and Cassie joining in and contributing. I love to read these posts. You get such a feel of persoanlity in them and you read things that resinate in you or have done at some stage. We have all had high and low points and lots of us have struggles for many different reasons. But you know, that's whats so great about this place, NN and the chatroom. We are here to help in anyway we can even if it's just a bit of praise. That can go along way sometimes!
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  • Profile picture of the author Sue Harrison
    Apologies for all the little smilies in my last post - I love colours and I think I must have been trying to see how many different ones I could get in one post - a couple missing I think - must try harder lol
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  • Profile picture of the author gungnugroho
    read article about cash online in my blog.... i hope you can find what you need


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    • Profile picture of the author Cassie18
      Good job, Sue. Love to read of successes. Also love your descriptive and colorful posts. It's almost 2 am here - don't want to go to bed as I'm still looking around.

      Oh, and thanks Justin. It's nice to know people are pulling for you!
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  • Profile picture of the author tester.23
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    Does anyone here have experience building forums and associated communities? Im in the travel niche, and at this stage not looking to make money, its more about building a big enough community so there is constant discussion
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    • Profile picture of the author bryce
      Hey everyone, cool that this thread keeps growing! Welcome to those new people and I apologize for not welcoming you individually, but I have been busy setting up the forum.

      Dave your site is looking cool mate - cant wait to list there
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  • Profile picture of the author tester.23
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    Yeh i sold my first major link the other day. I was contacted by a site that sells hotel rooms and they offered $40 for a link on my site for a year. The price was a lot more than i expected, and in hindsight i probably should have asked for a small comission also.

    My site is young however and im just trying to build a comminity at this stage rather than worry about profits.

    Any ideas for community building/traffic generation? (aside from the usual: social networks, articles etc etc)
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  • Profile picture of the author spacemonkee2010
    My, my, my hasn't it been mighty quiet on the thread today. I'm guessing that means that a lot of work is getting done out there? Very good. We've been getting a lot done here as well.

    It feels like we've gotten to a place where we understand enough to know what it is that we need to go learn and are doing that. It seems that that's helping us pick up momentum. So if anyone out there is suffering from information overload, look for small victories and let them build on each other to create momentum.

    Find someone to talk to about all this as well. I have my roommate Brad and we exchange ideas all the time. If you don't have anybody personal in your life like that, then find someone online to hook up with and talk to. Having someone to share ideas with a huge boost and will make your trip more enjoyable and successful.

    With that being said, I would like to pose a specific question to the group regarding video online. I could go through tons of legal research, but it'd take me forever to still not have a true answer. So here it is.

    Can I take several different videos from youtube...cut them up...and make my own video to put on a website.

    I know...I should have read the Terms, but like I said, i could sift through that for hours and still not know whether I could or couldn't.

    Thanks for any help, and if you're feeling bad about things and frustrated, go take a break where there's not distractions and calm down and take time to process all that you've been through and the information you've absorbed.
    Good luck everybody and have a great weekend!
    Justin
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    • Profile picture of the author bryce
      Well the quiet may be due to the learning, or the fact that in this part of the world it is coming to the end of Saturday, and between housework, kids, music and MJ passing away, there is little time for anything else. It may also be that people have started to follow some very good advice in "taking a break" from it all when we need to and coming back again more rejuvinated, and fresh.

      Either way, I am doing a bit of everything and am soon to be heading over to NN to tidy up there
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      • Profile picture of the author jondavidson
        ABSOLUTELY RIGHT BRYCE...TAKE FIVE AND THEN SOME!
        HAVE A GOOD WEEKEND EVERYONE...IT'S THE WEE HOURS OF SAT MORN HERE AND I'M SPENT!
        LATER
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        • Profile picture of the author bryce
          Originally Posted by jondavidson View Post

          ABSOLUTELY RIGHT BRYCE...TAKE FIVE AND THEN SOME!
          HAVE A GOOD WEEKEND EVERYONE...IT'S THE WEE HOURS OF SAT MORN HERE AND I'M SPENT!
          LATER
          Haha spent huh! Hi Jon, and yeah its heading into the wee hours here too I just watched the All Blacks kick some Italian butt on the rugby field so I am pumped :p

          Have a great weekend mate
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          • Profile picture of the author bryce
            Hi everyone,

            Just a quick note b4 I head off to dreamland, I have added a new section (well a few actually) at Novice Nation. I have also posted a new idea that will allow all members to take on the same IM project together, and implement it together, so we can build and succeed together.... Ahhhhh togetherness, dont you love it :p

            Anyway the first project will be to make $150 a day every day and the blueprint is already there to download and take a look at. If you havnt joined yet, do and if you are already a member there, head on over when you get the chance and vote!!!

            Remember to join Novice Nation, you must be a member of the Warrior Forum, and have posted at least once in this thread. You must also be considered a Newbie to IM.

            Later people - I am off to get some sleep
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  • Profile picture of the author altamer
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    • Profile picture of the author bryce
      Originally Posted by altamer View Post

      Hello to everyone. That is my first post at warrior forum. I studied internet marketing a lot for last year. Now I choosed ideas I want to stick with and give them a try. In real life I used to have a multimillion business in construction equipment segment.

      I am looking for a native english speaking person to cooperate. I need that person as my english is not my mother language and I need to set up english language websites.

      I would like to explain what ideas i choosed to give a try and run this projects together to get some cash at last !

      Please take contact to me if you are interested. It should be easier to share ideas among us and make projects together. asirius (at) hot dot ee Skype asirius75

      Hope to find new internet marketing friends here. See you soon.

      Roman
      Hello Roman, and welcome to the thread, and the forum! I have PMed you and look forward to seeing more of your posts
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  • Profile picture of the author tester.23
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    I have being implementing a few changes on my forum. I have everything set up, i just need more traffic and more people to sign up and start talking, which in turn will make the site look more active.

    So im trying to hook people in and get them to sign up. So i'll see what changes (if any) the adjustments i have made bring
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    • Profile picture of the author bryce
      Originally Posted by tester.23 View Post

      I have being implementing a few changes on my forum. I have everything set up, i just need more traffic and more people to sign up and start talking, which in turn will make the site look more active.

      So im trying to hook people in and get them to sign up. So i'll see what changes (if any) the adjustments i have made bring
      you could also join up at Novice Nation, to see if anyone will hop over to your forum and contribute. I will join up
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      • Profile picture of the author tester.23
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        Originally Posted by bryce View Post

        you could also join up at Novice Nation, to see if anyone will hop over to your forum and contribute. I will join up
        Sorry to sound like a newb (thats why im here after all), but what is Novice nation? I did a quick google but nothing jumped out at me
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  • Profile picture of the author Karen Connell
    Hi All,

    Can you post a link to Novice Nation Please.

    Karen
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    • Profile picture of the author bryce
      Originally Posted by Dhrousha View Post

      Hi All,

      Can you post a link to Novice Nation Please.

      Karen
      Originally Posted by tester.23 View Post

      Sorry to sound like a newb (thats why im here after all), but what is Novice nation? I did a quick google but nothing jumped out at me
      Hi guys, Novice Nation is the new forum we set up as a result of this thread. It is a place where anyone (newbie, now known as novice) who is considered new, and who has posted on this thread, is welcome to join. It is a place where we share, and get into some "real" opportunities.

      If you would like to check it out visit Novice Nation.

      If you would like to join, please use the same username as you are using here. There are many forums on the board, some of which cant be seen until you register, but over time we intend to combine all resources we can, so that everyone there has an equal chance of success online. If you think this thread has been helpful, and would like to see more of that, maybe Novice Nation is a place you will enjoy.
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  • Profile picture of the author mistermint
    Dave-sitedeal looks good!
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    • Profile picture of the author bryce
      Originally Posted by mistermint View Post

      Dave-sitedeal looks good!
      you are right about SiteDeal - I will be there shortly to list some sites

      What is the link in your siganture? It presents "beautiful women" or some other stuff. You should check out the rules for links in your signature, just to be safe
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      • Profile picture of the author mistermint
        Originally Posted by bryce View Post

        you are right about SiteDeal - I will be there shortly to list some sites

        What is the link in your siganture? It presents "beautiful women" or some other stuff. You should check out the rules for links in your signature, just to be safe
        Hi Bryce, that will teach me to be more careful late at night lol...the link was harmless just a little search site!

        The correct link should be OK now! A reminder to always test out your links-Thanks.
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        • Profile picture of the author bryce
          Originally Posted by mistermint View Post

          Hi Bryce, that will teach me to be more careful late at night lol...the link was harmless just a little search site!

          The correct link should be OK now! A reminder to always test out your links-Thanks.
          All is good Just letting u know, hehehe - I thought I had stumbled into, well lets leave it there
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          • Profile picture of the author bryce
            Wow, hi guys! Can't believe it, we have hit 8 pages on this thread now, excellent!!! I thought I would pop on before heading back over to NN, and see what has been cooking. Still the same helpful information and relationship building, so thats cool to see.

            I have invested in a couple of very cool things today and will be sharing that stuff at NN. Things like SEO tactics and I have also decided to "finally" put my software package up for grabs and review.

            I had this reviewed late last year here in WF and it received great feedback. It is a software product that was built from the ground up to solve a number of issues that everyone seemed to have. If you are interested in this new product in any way, head over to Novice Nation, and check out the details tomorrow. It is called Ezytrak.

            Well I hope everyone is doing well, keeping warm, and enjoying this journey. I know there is success around the corner for a lot of you and I cant wait to share in that excitement.
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  • Profile picture of the author ecubeachboy
    u have any ideas on where to start im clueless but im trying to learn as i go. I have a friend of mine that told me to go to cj and pepperjam to sign up. Where do u start it is overwhelming trying to figure it out
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    • Profile picture of the author bryce
      Originally Posted by ecubeachboy View Post

      u have any ideas on where to start im clueless but im trying to learn as i go. I have a friend of mine that told me to go to cj and pepperjam to sign up. Where do u start it is overwhelming trying to figure it out
      Hi ecubeachboy,

      Welcome to the thread! Well I think you will find after reading the posts in this thread alone, most people start where you are at right now. The trick is to focus, and not get involved in too many things in the beginning. Information overload can hurt more than you know.

      I am sure if you stick to cheking back here regularly you will be able to get the help you need. From this thread and the people who have contributed, we have established Novice Nation (refer to my post above) where you can join and particpate in many ways.

      Again, welcome and I look forward to seeing you around as often as you feel you need to. We are all here to help each other
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    • Profile picture of the author mistermint
      Originally Posted by ecubeachboy View Post

      u have any ideas on where to start im clueless but im trying to learn as i go. I have a friend of mine that told me to go to cj and pepperjam to sign up. Where do u start it is overwhelming trying to figure it out
      Hi, ecubeachboy.

      You will find just about everything worth knowing within this great forum.

      Evryone makes mistakes in at the start, my tip would be to work smart and not as others say, let yourself get hurt with Info Overload.

      We often find ourselves at the foot of a mountain looking up! Read as much as you can and take the best bits, make notes they are always useful. There is a lot of free stuff available where, a lot of the hard work has been done for you.

      You could consider what aspect of IM really interests you, people are not so keen to grab the credit card and spend these days. CJ is a good place though, a lot of the clients approve affiliates manually, this means you need to have a credible web site that should relate to the product in some way. Always try to make what you do relevant..i.e. Don't advertise car parts on a music site for example. Try neverblue.com for CPA Offers.

      If your putting up a web site and unless your promoting with PPC then, ensure it has value and good content for your visitors, this way they will keep comming back and your bsuiness will be more sustainable in the longer term. Email capture is well worth while, you will build again long term relationships provided, your sending out useful information, gain the trust of your readers.

      Above all, research, test research. Advertising on adwords can empty your wallet faster than anything be careful.

      Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author RedMatrix
    This is an awesome thread!

    I'd sign up for NN, but I just don't want to have to keep up with yet another forum.
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    • Profile picture of the author bryce
      Originally Posted by RedMatrix View Post

      This is an awesome thread!

      I'd sign up for NN, but I just don't want to have to keep up with yet another forum.
      Welcome to the thread, glad you have enjoyed the people and information here haha I can understand your not wanting to add another information treasure chest to your list, but hey.... if you ever change your mind, you know where the community is
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      • Profile picture of the author bryce
        hi everyone,

        Just a quick note before I retire for the evening that I have added a few things over at NN, so you should all shoot over there at some point and check that out.

        Its 3am here and I am about to drop on the floor so I have to go get some sleep.

        hope everyone is having a great day, and looking forward to another great week!

        cya soon
        Bryce
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  • Profile picture of the author RedMatrix
    Hey Bryce, thanks for your offer. I was just looking at your siggy, and that second link made me smile, cuz it reminds me of those small penny trays at the convenience stores...

    "Take a penny, leave a penny"
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    • Profile picture of the author bryce
      Originally Posted by RedMatrix View Post

      Hey Bryce, thanks for your offer. I was just looking at your siggy, and that second link made me smile, cuz it reminds me of those small penny trays at the convenience stores...

      "Take a penny, leave a penny"
      Hi Redmatrix, welcome to this here thread! I am not too sure what a "penny tray" is my friend, but I am happy that it made you smile Now all I have to do is find the time to concentrate on that site (my 2nd link) and I will be able to smile too
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  • Profile picture of the author spacemonkee2010
    Ah yeah, I see that activity popping up here again. I hope that everyone had a great weekend. We did here at The Marketing Madmen house.

    Welcome to all of you guys who are starting to come on! Just to show you that this all CAN be done...WE JUST GOT OUR FIRST CONVERSION!!!!!!

    It was on an affiliate that we targeted on ClickBank, and boy if you don't know what pumped up is...get that first sale.

    Sorry not to post more, but I'm off to do some more work and try to get some more of these!
    Justin
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    • Profile picture of the author bryce
      Originally Posted by spacemonkee2010 View Post

      Ah yeah, I see that activity popping up here again. I hope that everyone had a great weekend. We did here at The Marketing Madmen house.

      Welcome to all of you guys who are starting to come on! Just to show you that this all CAN be done...WE JUST GOT OUR FIRST CONVERSION!!!!!!

      It was on an affiliate that we targeted on ClickBank, and boy if you don't know what pumped up is...get that first sale.

      Sorry not to post more, but I'm off to do some more work and try to get some more of these!
      Justin
      WOW Congratulations guys! I remember that feeling when I sold my first ebook!! It is a moment to be cherished, and I wish you all the best with the next series of sales. HEY! Isnt it the tradition that the "first sale people" shout everyone else a drink????
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    • Profile picture of the author ejmjs
      Originally Posted by spacemonkee2010 View Post

      Ah yeah, I see that activity popping up here again. I hope that everyone had a great weekend. We did here at The Marketing Madmen house.

      Welcome to all of you guys who are starting to come on! Just to show you that this all CAN be done...WE JUST GOT OUR FIRST CONVERSION!!!!!!

      It was on an affiliate that we targeted on ClickBank, and boy if you don't know what pumped up is...get that first sale.

      Sorry not to post more, but I'm off to do some more work and try to get some more of these!
      Justin
      WELL DONE BRO!!! Very happy for ya mate! Nice one!
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    • Profile picture of the author Hasan Barbary
      Originally Posted by spacemonkee2010 View Post

      Welcome to all of you guys who are starting to come on! Just to show you that this all CAN be done...WE JUST GOT OUR FIRST CONVERSION!!!!!!

      It was on an affiliate that we targeted on ClickBank, and boy if you don't know what pumped up is...get that first sale.

      Sorry not to post more, but I'm off to do some more work and try to get some more of these!
      Justin
      CONGRATS! Keep it up!
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    • Profile picture of the author Cassie18
      Originally Posted by spacemonkee2010 View Post

      Ah yeah, I see that activity popping up here again. I hope that everyone had a great weekend. We did here at The Marketing Madmen house.

      Welcome to all of you guys who are starting to come on! Just to show you that this all CAN be done...WE JUST GOT OUR FIRST CONVERSION!!!!!!

      It was on an affiliate that we targeted on ClickBank, and boy if you don't know what pumped up is...get that first sale.

      Sorry not to post more, but I'm off to do some more work and try to get some more of these!
      Justin

      Justin - can you please tell me what a conversion is? Duh I know - but still learning. BTW - congrats on that.

      Also, has anyone read Honest Riches by Holly Mann? I bought the Ebook in May and am just starting to read it now. What is the general feeling of the info she offers? Thanks for any replies.
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      • Profile picture of the author cganz
        OK. I've given a great deal of thought to this whole jv thing and realized that most of us will never, or at least not in the near future, be able to join the big guns in jvs.

        Therefore, I decided to create my own website to provide an opportunity for newbies to find like minded entrepreneurs with small lists etc to work with toward a common goal.

        This is a work in progress. You can check it out at http://www.jv4newbies.com It's totally free and will stay free. THere is a forum to leave pertinent joint venture information and a chat box to get some conversation going. I thought it was more appropriate to do this on a separate site than bog down this forum.

        Any and all suggestions are welcome.

        Cary
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  • Profile picture of the author Sue Harrison
    WTG spacemonkee2010- bring it on
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  • Profile picture of the author dksnyder2002
    I have been reading and watching this thread since day one and think it is great. I have been on WF for a few years but have been mostly a reader and listener. I am now trying to develop a secondary income for myself that can become a full time income. I think there is a lot of information here for all of us and hope the thread continues strong.
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    David K. Snyder, And which guru said that you could do this without working at it?

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    • Profile picture of the author bryce
      Originally Posted by dksnyder2002 View Post

      I have been reading and watching this thread since day one and think it is great. I have been on WF for a few years but have been mostly a reader and listener. I am now trying to develop a secondary income for myself that can become a full time income. I think there is a lot of information here for all of us and hope the thread continues strong.
      Hi and welcome This is certainly a great thread with lots of great people, so I hope you get some enjoyment from particpating in it. Just yell out if you need anything!
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  • Profile picture of the author jondavidson
    Wow! That's what I say!
    8 pages so far and still growing!

    Nice going Dave and Bryce!
    and to all the rest of you/us novices out there
    just to let you know we are here to help each
    other achieve success and at the rate we are
    going, it won't be long now!

    Bryce, nice job to the attention of this thread and welcoming
    everyone new here and keeping up with all of the posts between
    here and NN (are you sure you don't have a clone?)

    No, I couldn't get my deck done this past weekend due
    to poor weather, rain ...rain...and more rain. What's up with
    that anyway? So I stayed inside and played.

    Keep on posting everyone and feel free to ask anything.
    Remember...The only dumb question is the one that was never asked.

    Later
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    • Profile picture of the author bryce
      Originally Posted by jondavidson View Post

      Wow! That's what I say!
      8 pages so far and still growing!

      Nice going Dave and Bryce!
      and to all the rest of you/us novices out there
      just to let you know we are here to help each
      other achieve success and at the rate we are
      going, it won't be long now!

      Bryce, nice job to the attention of this thread and welcoming
      everyone new here and keeping up with all of the posts between
      here and NN (are you sure you don't have a clone?)

      No, I couldn't get my deck done this past weekend due
      to poor weather, rain ...rain...and more rain. What's up with
      that anyway? So I stayed inside and played.

      Keep on posting everyone and feel free to ask anything.
      Remember...The only dumb question is the one that was never asked.

      Later
      Thanks Jon, and no - no clone I wish!
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  • Profile picture of the author newby31
    I'm a newbie and would like to join this group. How do I join? I found this in a thread and had to do a search for it.
    thanks newby 31
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    • Profile picture of the author bryce
      Originally Posted by newby31 View Post

      I'm a newbie and would like to join this group. How do I join? I found this in a thread and had to do a search for it.
      thanks newby 31
      Hi newby31.

      Welcome to this thread! I am not sure if you mean "join this thread" in which case you just did or whether you mean the Novice Nation community. If it is the latter, head over to Novice Nation, use the same username you have here, and register. Its that easy.

      Maybe you could let us know what sort of thing you have been doing, or what you are wanting to do online, and the great people on this thread will help in whatever way they can.
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    • Profile picture of the author Hasan Barbary
      Originally Posted by newby31 View Post

      I'm a newbie and would like to join this group. How do I join? I found this in a thread and had to do a search for it.
      thanks newby 31
      Welcome, newby 31~

      This thread is open and free for everyone who wants to contribute. If you're new to Internet Marketing, or just new to this forum, then you're in the right place.

      Feel free to ask questions, and/or share your stories. And if you ever decide you've outgrown your UserName, please feel free to tell us your name! :p

      This is a good bunch on this thread; I hope you'll find that it adds value to your online business experience.

      Best wishes,

      ~ hasan
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  • Profile picture of the author newby31
    Thanks Hasan
    My name is Jerry and I've got alot of question.lol How long have you been doing IM?
    I don't have much time today got to redo some water lines. I hope to be talking to all of you soon. Nice to see newbies helping eachother
    have a great day
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  • Profile picture of the author newby31
    Thanks Bryce
    Need all the help I can get.Hope to get back on later today and tell what I've been trying and ask a lot of questions.
    Have a great day
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  • Profile picture of the author mikekoltas
    Wow , what a great thread . So this is my first post after lurking for a while . Have many ideas / projects going now . This thread is a great idea and will hopefully keep going strong .
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  • Profile picture of the author spacemonkee2010
    Hey Jerry, and all of the rest of you guys. Welcome to the thread Jerry. It really is a great bunch of people on here. I don't know how in the hell Bryce keeps up with all that he does.

    Bryce if you could sell your system for getting so much done, we'd all be wealthy very soon. I mean really. I try to get on here and post often, but Bryce is a machine.

    Jerry, the biggest thing we've talked about on here which you may or may not have seen is information overload and how to deal with it. My partner Brad and I felt that for a couple of weeks or better after we got started. All you can really do is keep trying to learn it, and eventually a few things start clicking into place. Take a little time to study and then go try to apply what you've read.

    This isn't necessarily easy, but if you stay at it and get it set up it'll pay dividends down the road. We made a sale last night while we were asleep. That is what you can look forward to if you stay with it. Best of luck and by all means, ask questions. Feel free to IM me and I'll do everything I can.
    Justin
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  • Profile picture of the author spacemonkee2010
    Hey all! I hope everybody's doing good today and getting it done. We've got a couple of sales now and have the site tweaked to almost where we want it to be (are we ever really there?). We're mostly driving traffic from adwords campaigns, and are doing horribly with SEO. The site we're pushing the hardest isn't even indexed due to some kind of problem Google had. Anyway, I'm wondering what some of the best resources have been for some of you guys (and gals)in this category.

    If anyone's willing to discuss a little bit, all my IM info is in my signature, our just some recommended reading would be great too.

    One of the quotes that I've loved the most from this thread has been:

    Work for a few years like most people won't so you can live the rest of your life like most people can't.

    I keep that in my mind all the time. Take care all and best of luck.
    Justin
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    • Profile picture of the author Hasan Barbary
      Happy "Humpday", folks! I'm hanging out right now in the Chat Room if anyone wants to stop by.

      If you don't know what I'm talking about, take a look at my Sig.

      I'll be online for the next hour... where will YOU be?
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      • Profile picture of the author bryce
        Originally Posted by newby31 View Post

        Thanks Bryce
        Need all the help I can get.Hope to get back on later today and tell what I've been trying and ask a lot of questions.
        Have a great day
        Hi newby31,
        You are welcome my friend. We have all been there, where we need all the help we can get, and some people, when they get beyond that point, are happy to help out those coming up through the ranks! Those people you will most certainly find on this thread, so take advantage of the thread, ask what you feel you need to, and I am sure you will be on your way sooner than you think

        Originally Posted by mikekoltas View Post

        Wow , what a great thread . So this is my first post after lurking for a while . Have many ideas / projects going now . This thread is a great idea and will hopefully keep going strong .
        Hi there Mike, thanks for the comments and welcome to the thread! What a great thread to be making your first post, lol. We will certainly keep it growing as long as we can, and you are welcome to contribute whatever and whenever you want

        Originally Posted by spacemonkee2010 View Post

        I don't know how in the hell Bryce keeps up with all that he does.

        Bryce if you could sell your system for getting so much done, we'd all be wealthy very soon. I mean really. I try to get on here and post often, but Bryce is a machine.
        Hahaha Hi Justin, its called "Lots of coffee and little sleep" a formula I devised many years ago, lol. I just do what I can my friend, and hopefully others can benefit from it, but I thank you very much for your kind feedback. Its good to know that its appreciated

        Jerry, the biggest thing we've talked about on here which you may or may not have seen is information overload and how to deal with it. My partner Brad and I felt that for a couple of weeks or better after we got started. All you can really do is keep trying to learn it, and eventually a few things start clicking into place. Take a little time to study and then go try to apply what you've read.

        This isn't necessarily easy, but if you stay at it and get it set up it'll pay dividends down the road. We made a sale last night while we were asleep. That is what you can look forward to if you stay with it. Best of luck and by all means, ask questions. Feel free to IM me and I'll do everything I can.
        Justin
        All great advice, Jerry and Mike! Dont read too much about different things. Try to stick to one subject area and learn the process. There is no silver bank bullet in this business, although some are lucky enough to stumble upong something that a million people want! That is not the norm, and some of us learned that the hard way.

        Try not to subscribe to everything that sounds great, because everything online is designed to sound great! Try to ask as many questions as you need to ask, and really understand something before moving to the next thing. There are many good people on this thread and at Novice Nation, and between us all we can try to move things along a little faster than normal.
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  • Profile picture of the author newby31
    Good Morning everyone
    You all seem to be a great bunch of guys. I'll try and tell you where I am in this process and get your advice on what I should do.My wife and I started a website back in march.We had to learn everything from scratch and we have put a lot of hard work into it.It's really my wives site and it's not a niche site. We are both frustrated because we may have done every thing wrong.Now I'm confused on how you lay out a site for IM.We both want to help people find quality products that meet their needs and make a living doing it.Here are my questions. Does the site have too many topics? Are we doing the sales page wrong? Is the site laid out wrong? Should we start over?
    I hate to ask for so much of your time but I really don't know what to do next.All advice will be greatly appreciated
    Thanks so much for your help
    Maybe one day soon I can help the same as all of you
    the url is womenshomeactivities.com
    Thanks again Jerry
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    • Profile picture of the author bryce
      Originally Posted by newby31 View Post

      Good Morning everyone
      You all seem to be a great bunch of guys. I'll try and tell you where I am in this process and get your advice on what I should do.My wife and I started a website back in march.We had to learn everything from scratch and we have put a lot of hard work into it.It's really my wives site and it's not a niche site. We are both frustrated because we may have done every thing wrong.Now I'm confused on how you lay out a site for IM.We both want to help people find quality products that meet their needs and make a living doing it.Here are my questions. Does the site have too many topics? Are we doing the sales page wrong? Is the site laid out wrong? Should we start over?
      I hate to ask for so much of your time but I really don't know what to do next.All advice will be greatly appreciated
      Thanks so much for your help
      Maybe one day soon I can help the same as all of you
      the url is womenshomeactivities.com
      Thanks again Jerry
      Hi Jerry,
      Cool site, I like the simplicity and freshness of the theme, and it isnt too busy which is cool! (Busy meaning lots of flash bells and whistles) To try and anser your queries for now, first of all I dont a "blog" can have too many topics. Maybe a static site or a forum, but a blog is meant to be a place packed full og useful information, and I think you are achieving that. WP (Wordpress) is such a great platform to work with because of its flexibity and I think you have done well with it.

      I am not sure what you are referring to when you say "Sales Page" but I am assuming for the purpose of this post that it is the page with "Overstock.com" listed as a supplier. I think this page is okay, except maybe I would tone down the bold company name everywhere in the article. Maybe have some banner ads of theirs, (I am again assuming that you are an affiliate) and place them strategically on other pages as well.

      All in all I think this site is definately worth keeping, and with ongoing maintenance, additional content, etc - it could turn into something really cool. It deals with many issues that affect not only women, but men as well.

      What exactly do you find you dont like about the site as it is?

      Hope this helps a little
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      • Profile picture of the author Sue Harrison
        Hi Jerry

        I am still very much a newbie in the IM scheme of things so I can understand your frustration and uncertainty as to whether you are heading in the right direction.

        I don't feel qualified yet to give you any advice on which way to go forward but I did just want to let you and your wife know that I think your website is very, very good, especially considering it is your first ever attempt - I would never have guessed, if you hadn't said.

        I like the way your wife writes, which is in a very relaxed and friendly way and the way you are promoting the two products (I think it's two) - children's books and gifts (obviously alot more products within that category) is very relaxed also.

        As I am learning all I can about article marketing at the moment, this might be a way forward for you too - to help draw more people to your website, and to the products you are promoting.

        I'm sorry I can't be of any more help at this point but I did want to let you know that I really do like what you have achieved so far.
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      • Profile picture of the author newby31
        Hi Bryce,

        First let me thank you for taking a look at our site and for your kind comments. This is Jerry's wife (Christine) now he sent me in here after reading your response.

        I appreciate your suggestions on what we have deemed our sales page, that makes sense to me. I see what you mean about the "bolding", it is a little overload to the eyes. These are my first attempts at copywriting and I am trying to learn all I can. We have some books and I am working on learning better strategies.

        I know the site has definite room for improvement. Jerry has been concerned about the amount and variety of topics. I do think that some of those should actually be condensed or combined instead of being separated out such as the "self help" posts being combined together into just one category instead of individual ones. He calls this my site because most of the articles are written by me and the topics were picked based on my interests.

        I also think that the site needs to be a bit more visually appealing by adding some graphics or photos which I am trying to learn about too.

        We don't want to give up we just needed some feedback in order to determine whether this site has potential or if it was back to the drawing board.

        We appreciate your help and suggestions. This is a great group and very inviting. I am sure Jerry and I will have other questions that will pop up but this is what I have for now.

        Again thanks,
        Jerry & Christine
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  • Profile picture of the author spacemonkee2010
    Hey Jerry, I think the site looks great. However, even after Bryce's mentioning the overstock page...I still can't find it. The way it looks to me, you've got a lot of truly great material, but its not being properly monetized. Assuming that either you or your wife wrote all of this material, perhaps you can find a way to weave in some products into your writing here and there with an explanation about how they can genuinely make their lives better.

    At the very least, consider an adsense campaign. You have enough great material on here that you should be able to generate some following. Maybe even starting an email campaign. I'm not sure if this helps or not, but that's the biggest thing I see. Monetize all your efforts.
    Justin
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  • Profile picture of the author spacemonkee2010
    Alright Warriors, we're seriously freaking out over here at the house. Since Monday, according to Google, we've had six conversions with our affiliate product. Clickbank has only paid us for two of them.

    We understand about the "last cookie" rule and that the last aff site the customer sees before they buy is who gets credit. We also understand that our links need to be cloaked so as not to get ripped off by some means which we don't quite understand. Is it normal to have so many conversions that don't actually convert? I mean, we've got a good conversion rate, but our conversion rate is getting reduced by 1/3.

    Please help, we're spending money with an active adwords campaign with a good website and just need to know if this is just the way it works, or if we're getting ripped off. Hasan was kind enough to send me a link to some free cloaking software, but that's giving us a headache too.

    Thanks in advance for you help.
    Justin
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    • Profile picture of the author Hasan Barbary
      Originally Posted by spacemonkee2010 View Post

      Alright Warriors, we're seriously freaking out over here at the house. Since Monday, according to Google, we've had six conversions with our affiliate product. Clickbank has only paid us for two of them.
      Hey, Justin ~

      Sorry to hear about your conversion troubles. I have already stated elsewhere my personal reservations about ClickBank; a quick search of other threads on the WF will show that I'm far from alone. Tracking is a CHRONIC problem when dealing with them.

      However, I am not a CB expert. That title probably belongs to Harvey Segal. He is a veteran of this forum; he also was on CB's Advisory Board, maybe he still is.

      He has a forum specifically for CB affiliates, and a free guide called "ClickBank for Newbies". If you want a definitve answer, start with him. Do a Google search on his name and you'll find all the links.

      If you're really in a jam, you could also try sending him a PM. He might respond, if you ask him really nicely. Just understand that CB is his BUSINESS; don't expect him to spoon feed you for free.

      I hope you get everything worked out.

      ~ hasan
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  • Profile picture of the author mistermint
    Hi Jerry,

    Looked at your blog looks good!

    Do you have an adsense account?

    There is a plug in called adsense now- from your dashboard you can install it from it's zip file or search it out. This allows you to put adsense ads in your posts. You choose the position suchas right-bottom-centred

    You can also use the same program to copy and paste code from affilate offers that is if you dont want adsense.

    You can also put affiliate code in your side bar.

    Then it is a question of promotion to get traffic this is always the hard part even if you have a fantastic site.

    There are a lot of good free promotion tools available!

    Good Luck and just ask there is a lot of good help here.

    Gordon.
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  • Profile picture of the author fan994
    The money is in the list and back end.
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  • Profile picture of the author newby31
    Thank you both Justin and Sue
    We appreciate you taking the time to look at the site and giving us feed back. I wish I could help you Justin but I can't. I wish I had something to contribute to this group because you all help so much.

    This is Christine and I too would like to thank both Justin and Sue for taking a look at the site and for your helpful comments and suggestions.

    @Justin- We are really trying to learn the best monetization techniques to use in our posts (I do write most of them, although Jerry also contributes with ideas, keyword research and some of the articles) You have some great suggestions and we are trying to learn all we can each day. We will shoot for an email following sometime in the future but we are not sure that we are ready for that just yet.

    @Sue- thanks for your kind words. As this group says it's all about newbies sticking together and we will try to help where we can. You hang in there too.

    Thanks again.
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  • Profile picture of the author newby31
    You all are great and so helpful. We are headed to work on the site but will be back on later
    Thanks so much
    Jerry
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    • Profile picture of the author bryce
      Originally Posted by newby31 View Post

      Hi Bryce,

      First let me thank you for taking a look at our site and for your kind comments. This is Jerry's wife (Christine) now he sent me in here after reading your response.

      I appreciate your suggestions on what we have deemed our sales page, that makes sense to me. I see what you mean about the "bolding", it is a little overload to the eyes. These are my first attempts at copywriting and I am trying to learn all I can. We have some books and I am working on learning better strategies.

      I know the site has definite room for improvement. Jerry has been concerned about the amount and variety of topics. I do think that some of those should actually be condensed or combined instead of being separated out such as the "self help" posts being combined together into just one category instead of individual ones. He calls this my site because most of the articles are written by me and the topics were picked based on my interests.

      I also think that the site needs to be a bit more visually appealing by adding some graphics or photos which I am trying to learn about too.

      We don't want to give up we just needed some feedback in order to determine whether this site has potential or if it was back to the drawing board.

      We appreciate your help and suggestions. This is a great group and very inviting. I am sure Jerry and I will have other questions that will pop up but this is what I have for now.

      Again thanks,
      Jerry & Christine
      You are very welcome Christine, and nice to meet you

      I can understand that you want to add some graphics and images, and that is cool. I am a fan of this also. If you need any help adding such things yell out.

      Overall you have put together a very nice looking site with (as has been mentioned) lots of good material. Are you sending these artcles off to directories when you do them?
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  • Profile picture of the author newby31
    Thanks Bryce, nice to meet you too.
    Yes, I have submitted articles to directories (ezine mainly, which has actually been a good experience) We do get some traffic from this which is helpful.

    I definitely will seek out the help with the pictures and graphics, but I'll try not to yell too loud .

    Thanks again,
    Christine
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  • Profile picture of the author londonguy6
    Very Very interesting post. I am a new newbie who is looking to start something, no anything online. Thanks guys for this information. Any help or assistance would be appreciated.
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  • Profile picture of the author spacemonkee2010
    Thanks guys for all the support. I think we've got it a little better figured out about the conversions converting to clickbank sales. That doesn't really mean that I like it, but its there nonetheless. We've learned great deal over the past week or two and are learning more every day by DOING!

    Londonguy, welcome. Feel free to elaborate a little more about what you're interested in and what you have studied in the past.

    We've just found a page on the internet that outs our vendor as a fraud. It was quite disheartening to read, but its there. We're bummed about it, but not too bad, as the knowledge we've learned through promoting it has been great. Hasan, we got the cloaking figured out too by the way.

    In the spirit of getting back on the horse once you get bucked off we're reassessing a little bit over the weekend and maybe getting some things in place to start anew. Anyway, just wanted to give updates and say that we're really proud of everybody here for sticking with this and jumping on board. There is A LOT happening over on NN and I think we'll be implementing some things from over there in our new plan. Jump in and get involved.
    Justin
    Think Big!
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  • Profile picture of the author spacemonkee2010
    Hey Cassie, a conversion is simply a sale. We were promoting an e-book that we had picked up on ClickBank and got one of them sold. All it is is a conversion from a view to a sale.

    I haven't read the author that you're talking about, but I know that there is all kinds of good stuff out there. I'm currently reading "Think and Grow Rich" by Napolean Hill. I think it may be the best book that I've read on success. Every time I read some of it, I get pumped up and motivated.

    A good tip for everyone out there. If you're not working on changing your thinking and reading books by people who've been successful, then you really need to. Learn from those who have been there and done it and find out how they did it.

    Well I'm off on something potentially huge now and will keep you guys all posted. Hope you all have great weekends.
    Justin
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    • Profile picture of the author Cassie18
      Thanks so much, Justin. I honestly didn't know that it meant you made a sale. I have to believe that is so exciting when one starts to see the fruit of their labors. I will look into the book you mentioned. Continued success to you .

      Happy 4th to everyone. Our fireworks at the lakefront is tonight and we go every year.
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      • Profile picture of the author bryce
        Originally Posted by londonguy6 View Post

        Very Very interesting post. I am a new newbie who is looking to start something, no anything online. Thanks guys for this information. Any help or assistance would be appreciated.
        Welcome to the thread Londonguy! You should find all the help you might need on the WF and particularly in this thread. Keep posting and let us know what sort of thing you have done, or would like to do, head over to NN if you think that can help too.


        Originally Posted by spacemonkee2010 View Post

        Thanks guys for all the support. I think we've got it a little better figured out about the conversions converting to clickbank sales. That doesn't really mean that I like it, but its there nonetheless. We've learned great deal over the past week or two and are learning more every day by DOING!

        Londonguy, welcome. Feel free to elaborate a little more about what you're interested in and what you have studied in the past.

        We've just found a page on the internet that outs our vendor as a fraud. It was quite disheartening to read, but its there. We're bummed about it, but not too bad, as the knowledge we've learned through promoting it has been great. Hasan, we got the cloaking figured out too by the way.

        In the spirit of getting back on the horse once you get bucked off we're reassessing a little bit over the weekend and maybe getting some things in place to start anew. Anyway, just wanted to give updates and say that we're really proud of everybody here for sticking with this and jumping on board. There is A LOT happening over on NN and I think we'll be implementing some things from over there in our new plan. Jump in and get involved.
        Justin
        Think Big!
        Sorry about the 'Fraud' things boys, but I wouldnt beleive everything you read online I am not sure what you read or where you read it, but plenty of disgruntled customers set up pages or comments that are not necessarily true. I am sure you have established the sincerity of your find though!
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        • Profile picture of the author danyray
          Hi guys.
          Great tread. I tried to read it all, but its a big Job.lol. I read most of the posts and it sure looks like a great idea and a great tread to subscribe. |I am new to IM, but read several books and numerous forums to realize the great potential here.
          For the real newbies (Novice...) I would like to point out the great site and free high quality information provide at the ThirtyDayChallenge site (30DC#). If I am not mistaken, It was not mentioned anywhere on this tread.
          It is a great place to learn with good quality videos and other materials the "tools of the trade" in their preseason section. I strongly recommend going through their 5-15 minute videos. Following their entire free program gets you to move up significantly in the IM knowledge.
          I agree that tenacity and clear goals are the key to getting any kind of long term success here, so sticking together on this tread is a good way to stay informed and motivated.

          Congratulation on the good work you all do here.


          Dany
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          • Profile picture of the author Hasan Barbary
            Originally Posted by danyray View Post

            Hi guys.
            Great tread. I tried to read it all, but its a big Job.lol. I read most of the posts and it sure looks like a great idea and a great tread to subscribe. |I am new to IM, but read several books and numerous forums to realize the great potential here.
            For the real newbies (Novice...) I would like to point out the great site and free high quality information provide at the ThirtyDayChallenge site (30DC#). If I am not mistaken, It was not mentioned anywhere on this tread.
            It is a great place to learn with good quality videos and other materials the "tools of the trade" in their preseason section. I strongly recommend going through their 5-15 minute videos. Following their entire free program gets you to move up significantly in the IM knowledge.
            I agree that tenacity and clear goals are the key to getting any kind of long term success here, so sticking together on this tread is a good way to stay informed and motivated.

            Congratulation on the good work you all do here.


            Dany
            Hey, Dany ~

            Welcome to the thread! You know, I've heard a lot of good things about Ed Dale's 30-Day Challenge, but I haven't checked it out, myself. Maybe it's because on his home page he says "In a nutshell... The Thirty Day Challenge is about making your first $1 online", and fortunately, I'm way past that now.

            Still, you make a good point, it's a free resource that hasn't been mentioned in this thread previously. All the reviews I've read seem to agree that it's a very solid foundation for total beginners.

            {TANGENT ALERT} Just to let everybody know, I will NOT be in the Chat Room this weekend at all. It's a holiday, so I'm gonna make a point to step away from the computer and enjoy the outdoors.

            However, I want to emphasize that the Chat Room is open 24/7; you don't need an invitation. Especially for folks in the UK or Europe (or further away ), if there are 2 or 3 of you who want a free cozy space to discuss your IM plans, then set up a time amongst yourselves and just go!

            That's really what it's there for.

            Anyways, good to hear from you Dany, keep us posted on your adventures!

            Wishing everyone a fun and safe 4th of July...
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            • Profile picture of the author ejmjs
              Hi there everyone. Happy Independence day to all my friends accross the pond!!!

              @Justin - sorry to hear about your troubles both with your vendor and your conversion issues. I'm glad you are still in high spirits and continue to be very motivated. I know you are a very positive person and cannot fail to do well.

              To all you Novices that have joined the thread, welcome to a fantastic resource backed by a caring bunch of guys and gals.

              Do ask questions, do ask for help, do give feedback! It has been stated previously but I like this phrase, The Only dumb question is one that never gets asked.

              Just so you guys know what I've been doing... I have written several articles for a vendor I am promoting through CB. Had some traffic but it's early yet. No sales so far but more articles will be put out there and I'm sure sales will follow before too long.

              Don't forget about the NN forum Bryce has setup and don't forget to check Hasans chatroom out regulary.

              Ok, that's me for now. Take care!
              Mark
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              • Profile picture of the author bryce
                Originally Posted by danyray View Post

                Hi guys.
                Great tread. I tried to read it all, but its a big Job.lol. I read most of the posts and it sure looks like a great idea and a great tread to subscribe. |I am new to IM, but read several books and numerous forums to realize the great potential here.
                For the real newbies (Novice...) I would like to point out the great site and free high quality information provide at the ThirtyDayChallenge site (30DC#). If I am not mistaken, It was not mentioned anywhere on this tread.
                It is a great place to learn with good quality videos and other materials the "tools of the trade" in their preseason section. I strongly recommend going through their 5-15 minute videos. Following their entire free program gets you to move up significantly in the IM knowledge.
                I agree that tenacity and clear goals are the key to getting any kind of long term success here, so sticking together on this tread is a good way to stay informed and motivated.

                Congratulation on the good work you all do here.


                Dany
                Hi Dany, welcome to the thread! It is getting very long isnt it, with 9 pages and still growing. I am sure you will find some really great advice and tips here, as some of the original people have.

                I havnt checked out the 30DC either, but may just have a sneak peak

                Originally Posted by Hasan Barbary View Post

                Hey, Dany ~

                Welcome to the thread! You know, I've heard a lot of good things about Ed Dale's 30-Day Challenge, but I haven't checked it out, myself. Maybe it's because on his home page he says "In a nutshell... The Thirty Day Challenge is about making your first $1 online", and fortunately, I'm way past that now.

                Still, you make a good point, it's a free resource that hasn't been mentioned in this thread previously. All the reviews I've read seem to agree that it's a very solid foundation for total beginners.

                {TANGENT ALERT} Just to let everybody know, I will NOT be in the Chat Room this weekend at all. It's a holiday, so I'm gonna make a point to step away from the computer and enjoy the outdoors.

                However, I want to emphasize that the Chat Room is open 24/7; you don't need an invitation. Especially for folks in the UK or Europe (or further away ), if there are 2 or 3 of you who want a free cozy space to discuss your IM plans, then set up a time amongst yourselves and just go!

                That's really what it's there for.

                Anyways, good to hear from you Dany, keep us posted on your adventures!

                Wishing everyone a fun and safe 4th of July...
                I hear that (stepping away from the computer), LOL. Oh and btw there is a link on Novice Nation now that will take people directly to the chat room, so that will make it a bit easier for people over there.

                Have a great weekend everybody
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    • Profile picture of the author David Chamberlain
      Originally Posted by spacemonkee2010 View Post

      Hey Cassie, a conversion is simply a sale. We were promoting an e-book that we had picked up on ClickBank and got one of them sold. All it is is a conversion from a view to a sale.

      I haven't read the author that you're talking about, but I know that there is all kinds of good stuff out there. I'm currently reading "Think and Grow Rich" by Napolean Hill. I think it may be the best book that I've read on success. Every time I read some of it, I get pumped up and motivated.

      A good tip for everyone out there. If you're not working on changing your thinking and reading books by people who've been successful, then you really need to. Learn from those who have been there and done it and find out how they did it.

      Well I'm off on something potentially huge now and will keep you guys all posted. Hope you all have great weekends.
      Justin
      Hi Justin

      I've not had much net access, as I've been by the pool most of the time...I'm reading the same book. Some really good information in it.

      I've been told not to read too many books though, find a philosophy that works and stick to it, or you will never move forward!

      Cheers

      Dave
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    • Profile picture of the author studio52
      This is a very good forum, and this thread has been helpful in guiding me towards some of the answers I was looking for, thanks for all the posts, hope many more are to come.

      Ken
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      • Profile picture of the author bryce
        Originally Posted by studio52 View Post

        This is a very good forum, and this thread has been helpful in guiding me towards some of the answers I was looking for, thanks for all the posts, hope many more are to come.

        Ken
        Absolutely Ken, there will be many more to come, I am sure of that.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ohioag92
    Hi group,

    Lot's of information being passed around the past 3-4 days I have been watching. Here is my question. Would it make sense to purchase lists just to get started and build some momentum, or is "organic" growth always best?

    Will D.
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    • Profile picture of the author bryce
      Originally Posted by Ohioag92 View Post

      Hi group,

      Lot's of information being passed around the past 3-4 days I have been watching. Here is my question. Would it make sense to purchase lists just to get started and build some momentum, or is "organic" growth always best?

      Will D.
      Hi Will, thanks for stopping by and at NN as well. Buying traffic is always dicey, in my own experience. It is probably a better idea to go organic, and maybe also hook up with someone prepared to JV with you. Do you have any list at all?
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    • Profile picture of the author studio52
      Originally Posted by Ohioag92 View Post

      Hi group,

      Lot's of information being passed around the past 3-4 days I have been watching. Here is my question. Would it make sense to purchase lists just to get started and build some momentum, or is "organic" growth always best?

      Will D.
      One of the easiest ways to build a list, besides the autoresponder, is through your social sites, Twitter, and face book, My Space, all are easy to get thousands of people to see your offer. Twitter is one sweet site to post your urls to, no limits, and lots of atoumatic poster apps out there for you to use. So build your main autoresponder list, and use the social sites to create interest in your offers, direct them to a squeeze or landing page you created, and then they will be on your main list as well. Im learning more about list building and different resources now, and this forum is one of the best places for more experienced guys like Hasan, and many others, to share with novices. Im gratefull for all the advice I have received here..Thanks all.
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    • Profile picture of the author Null-11
      Originally Posted by Ohioag92 View Post

      Hi group,

      Lot's of information being passed around the past 3-4 days I have been watching. Here is my question. Would it make sense to purchase lists just to get started and build some momentum, or is "organic" growth always best?

      Will D.
      Hey Will. Welcome to the thread!

      To answer your question, I'd have to say do NOT buy an existing list. You can buy traffic to build your list - such as using AdWords, Yahoo ads, etc. This is a great way to get targeted traffic. You can also get JV partners to send you traffic but if you don't already have a list it will be hard to get JV partners.

      Buying a list is a dangerous way to go even if it's double opt-in. This can lead to you - the email sender - being accused of spamming and there have even been quite a few cases where a lawsuit followed. Regardless of whether you are willing to take the risk, buying a list simply is not effective. Go with buying ads on Google AdWords, Yahoo Search, and Bing. The leads you get from here are very targeted because you can choose who sees your ad - by choosing specific keywords - and your leads are looking for a solution to thier problem and they chose YOU when they clicked your ad. They're basically waiting for you to sell them that "solution."

      Hope you find this helpful. And sorry if I typed too much and didn't explain enough. If I didn't make things clear please let me know I'd I'll be glad to explain some more.

      ~ Colin
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  • Profile picture of the author londonguy6
    Thanks Bryce and Spacemonkee for getting back to me. As I mentioned in my first ever post on here, that I am a new 'newbie', ie. literally just starting in the online world of money making.
    I come from a finance background and want to definitely go down this route. I have done a bit of reading, mostly on the net (close to 20-25 hours), and have decided on a few options. This is what I envisage on what I could/should do.
    Can someone please guide me on what really needs to be done.

    Firstly, build a website, obviously I have absolutely no knowledge of doing that. So was thinking about using one of those SiteSellit websites where most things are done for you. SiteSellit sounds a reputable place to start with. I just want to start something soon and then learn more about web designing and web building as I progress.

    On 'this' website, I would be either selling eBooks(Get some Ebooks from here) or write a niche about something I enjoy. Please can someone enlighten me on which of these would be more marketable or if there are any other options available.

    As a newbie, what would be my best(first) steps forward ?
    Any advise would be greatly appreciated.
    I have a thousand questions but don't want to sound dumb and get carried away on this forum. Thanks guys.
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    • Profile picture of the author bryce
      Originally Posted by londonguy6 View Post

      Thanks Bryce and Spacemonkee for getting back to me. As I mentioned in my first ever post on here, that I am a new 'newbie', ie. literally just starting in the online world of money making.
      I come from a finance background and want to definitely go down this route. I have done a bit of reading, mostly on the net (close to 20-25 hours), and have decided on a few options. This is what I envisage on what I could/should do.
      Can someone please guide me on what really needs to be done.

      Firstly, build a website, obviously I have absolutely no knowledge of doing that. So was thinking about using one of those SiteSellit websites where most things are done for you. SiteSellit sounds a reputable place to start with. I just want to start something soon and then learn more about web designing and web building as I progress.

      On 'this' website, I would be either selling eBooks(Get some Ebooks from here) or write a niche about something I enjoy. Please can someone enlighten me on which of these would be more marketable or if there are any other options available.

      As a newbie, what would be my best(first) steps forward ?
      Any advise would be greatly appreciated.
      I have a thousand questions but don't want to sound dumb and get carried away on this forum. Thanks guys.
      Sounds like you have a fairly good understanding of what needs to be done my friend. As far as the ebook goes, I think I would be going for a unique niche as opposed to something that is already out there. If you have something in the way of knowledge and you enjoy the subject, your passion will shine through and people will relate to this. This has been my experience anyway.

      The website, well there are many platforms out there that allow you to build a fully functional site with a few cliscks, but most tend to be restrictive in some areas, and some have their branding on every page, etc. Not that the latter is a major problem, it is just that for some reason these types of sites lose credibility with a lot of people online.

      For the price you will pay (unless it is free or very cheap) you might be able to get someone on this thread to build you a site.
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  • Profile picture of the author pearlydean
    Hi everyone,

    Sorry I haven't posted for a while but work commitments and the "real world" have kept me busy!

    I just wanted to comment on buying lists.

    First of all you have to ask yourself a question...if you buy a list then why will the person on the list buy from you? They don't know anything about you nor you about them so its like selling to a stranger on the street - psst wanna buy a watch??

    I bought Mass Control by Frank Kern a while back and he shows in there how you need to build a relationship with your "prospects" - I hate that word but it will do for now. They need to understand what you are about and what your story is so that they can relate to it and you. If you buy in names then there is no relationship.

    I use twitter throughout the day and now have over 3,500 followers. These are not just any old followers though, we interact with each other regularly, ask each other questions and post replies or jokes or quotes. It is a relationship and each follower can unfollow me if they don't like my interactions. So I guess you could call this a list of sorts. If I have anything useful to say on my blogs then I post it on twitter and they can subscribe to my list if they like and a lot do.

    So what I am really saying here is don't be false, don't just think of the money, don't grab at whatever you can to make money online - because they will see right through it.

    When I was involved in direct sales I was just myself when I was out cold calling. I walked in with a smile and a handshake and then discussed what I had to show them. My best sales came from the customers who liked me and my interaction with them. It is harder online because they cannot see your face so have to rely on your communications with them.

    So be yourself, talk in your communications as you would normally and build your list or "following" organically and over time.

    Hope that helps

    Cheers Keith
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  • Profile picture of the author Karen Connell
    Hi again all,

    I've been following you all daily but have not had much to add.

    But... guess what? I have another techie query.

    I installed wordpress on Hostgator - do I edit this as per the free wordpress - which even I found easy...?

    There doesn't seem to be many themes so how do i upload a theme from somewhere else?

    If I wasn't in the wilds of Ireland - about an hour and a half away from a decent sized town - I would find someone to teach me all this face to face.

    I've done the searches for wordpress etc. But there doesn't seem to be anything that instructs step by step - it's straight to the 'upload wordpress (which I managed to figure out by trial and error!), upload your theme,then begin editing'

    So, my apologies for asking some very basic stuff again.

    Regards

    Karen
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    • Profile picture of the author pearlydean
      Hi Karen,
      I use wordpress a lot and have found out by trial and error what works best.

      I will try and explain a few basics for you:

      To install a new theme log into your wordpress admin panel - this usually can be found at http://www.yourwebsite.com/wp-admin.

      Look on the left hand side and you will see a link for Appearance - click on this.
      Within this is another link - Themes and Add New Themes - click on this.

      You can now search for a theme either by keyword, author or tag. If you just want a nice looking theme for now look at the links at the top of the page:

      Search | Upload | Featured | Newest | Recently Updated

      Try clicking on Featured - I then selected Arclite for a test

      Click on Install
      A new window opens up so click on Install now.

      You now can either Preview | Activate | Return to Theme Installer

      Click on Activate

      Look at your blog page now and you will see the new theme.

      To change the options or look and feel go back to the Appearance tab and mess around with the Theme options.

      If this isn't clear or you need any further help just PM me.

      Cheers
      Keith
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      • Profile picture of the author Karen Connell
        Originally Posted by pearlydean View Post

        Hi Karen,
        I use wordpress a lot and have found out by trial and error what works best.

        I will try and explain a few basics for you:

        To install a new theme log into your wordpress admin panel - this usually can be found at http://www.yourwebsite.com/wp-admin.

        Look on the left hand side and you will see a link for Appearance - click on this.
        Within this is another link - Themes and Add New Themes - click on this.

        You can now search for a theme either by keyword, author or tag. If you just want a nice looking theme for now look at the links at the top of the page:

        Search | Upload | Featured | Newest | Recently Updated

        Try clicking on Featured - I then selected Arclite for a test

        Click on Install
        A new window opens up so click on Install now.

        You now can either Preview | Activate | Return to Theme Installer

        Click on Activate

        Look at your blog page now and you will see the new theme.

        To change the options or look and feel go back to the Appearance tab and mess around with the Theme options.

        If this isn't clear or you need any further help just PM me.

        Cheers
        Keith
        Hi Keith,

        You don't fancy a quick trip over the Irish Sea, do You?

        Thanks for clearing the mud a little.

        I'll give it a go when I get back from the Dog Track. We race our gorgeous dogs over here - I'm originally from Blackburn.

        Thanks again and I'll keep you updated on my progress (or lack of it!)

        Regards

        Karen
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  • Profile picture of the author spacemonkee2010
    Hey everyone. I see a lot of people on here struggling with building a website and wanted to share with you guys what i use. Webpage-Maker is the simplest thing out there that I have found to build good webpages in a very simple, drag-and-drop method. You can check out their website at Web Page Maker : Make your own web page easily! They've got a free trial for 14 days I think, but I think the full blown version is only $19.95.

    It is fairly limited as in there aren't a ton of templates for it, but if anybody chooses to go that route and try it out, I'll be happy to lend any technical support that I can. I've used it for a few years and have become fairly proficient with it.
    Hope this helps some of you.

    Karen, I really haven't messed with Wordpress too much, but it sounds like you're going to become the expert I'll come see when I'm ready!

    Justin
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    • Profile picture of the author Karen Connell
      Originally Posted by spacemonkee2010 View Post

      Hey everyone. I see a lot of people on here struggling with building a website and wanted to share with you guys what i use. Webpage-Maker is the simplest thing out there that I have found to build good webpages in a very simple, drag-and-drop method. You can check out their website at Web Page Maker : Make your own web page easily! They've got a free trial for 14 days I think, but I think the full blown version is only $19.95.

      It is fairly limited as in there aren't a ton of templates for it, but if anybody chooses to go that route and try it out, I'll be happy to lend any technical support that I can. I've used it for a few years and have become fairly proficient with it.
      Hope this helps some of you.

      Karen, I really haven't messed with Wordpress too much, but it sounds like you're going to become the expert I'll come see when I'm ready!

      Justin
      Hi Justin,

      I'll check that out and see if it'll do my stuff. I don't want an all bells and whistles website, just something that looks good and somewhere to sell my stuff.

      Wordpress is giving me nightmares at the moment - but I really think it's the technical stuff that makes me want to jump off a cliff!

      I look at people selling ready made sites and think I'll give that a go but then I realise that there is still technical stuff involved and I back quickly away!

      Thanks

      Karen:confused:
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  • Profile picture of the author cganz
    I'm not sure where this thread has gone or if anyone has actually set up the foundation for JVs for Newbies.

    I have several lists of several hundred subscribers and would welcome JVs in the IM and Social Networking area.

    I think that this is a great idea that needs to be promoted. There are hundreds if not thousands of newbies looking to get there feet on solid ground but have no way of approaching the big guys.

    If anyone is interested in a JV please let me know.

    I have several websites including The Newbie Phenomenon and Newbie52.

    Looking forward to hearing from anyone interested.

    Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author bryce
      Originally Posted by cganz View Post

      I'm not sure where this thread has gone or if anyone has actually set up the foundation for JVs for Newbies.

      I have several lists of several hundred subscribers and would welcome JVs in the IM and Social Networking area.

      I think that this is a great idea that needs to be promoted. There are hundreds if not thousands of newbies looking to get there feet on solid ground but have no way of approaching the big guys.

      If anyone is interested in a JV please let me know.

      I have several websites including The Newbie Phenomenon and Newbie52.

      Looking forward to hearing from anyone interested.

      Thanks
      Hi, and thanks for stopping by the thread! The topic has sort of evolved into a "safe haven" for "novices" and the interesting thing is I guess, it has evolved naturally. The thread has basically become a Q&A section for people who dont want to be inundated with offers from so called "gurus" and opportunities to spend lots of money.

      We have set up Novice Nation as a more intimate arena for serious novices to take on some projects, and the sensitive information has been handled over there, for some added security.

      I have sent you a PM
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      • Profile picture of the author Hasan Barbary
        I'm online in the Chat Room for the next hour.

        Also, Michael Oksa has started a great thread over in the Main IM Discussion Forum. Very empowering to hear Warriors with 1000's of posts relate how they overcame the same challenges that we Novices face. Check it out...
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        • Profile picture of the author danyray
          I would like to thank you all for the warm welcome to my first post in this tread few days ago. It is a great place to be.

          Reading the many posts in this tread from warriors struggling with simple technical stuff, I would add an observation I had. Some of the greatest Goobers in IM, publicly admit they are lost with most of the small nuances of the technical aspects of IM. They all teamed up (JV in our terms or by hiring or outsourcing) with technical people that took care of all the technical issues, while they concentrated on the other important aspects of IM like traffic, copywriting etc.. Together they each reached true synergy.
          Since I have seen several posts about JV on mailing lists and other activities, may I suggest to try and form JV between technically inclined people in this tread and the other disciplines inclined persons. It will surely shorten the "Time to Money/Success".
          With numerous action oriented people on this tread, if my idea will be accepted, it should not take long to get many JV teams to move forward together.
          ...Just another thought in the effort to improve the odds of the Pareto law (80:20 law of life)

          Dany
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          • Profile picture of the author bryce
            Originally Posted by danyray View Post

            I would like to thank you all for the warm welcome to my first post in this tread few days ago. It is a great place to be.

            Reading the many posts in this tread from warriors struggling with simple technical stuff, I would add an observation I had. Some of the greatest Goobers in IM, publicly admit they are lost with most of the small nuances of the technical aspects of IM. They all teamed up (JV in our terms or by hiring or outsourcing) with technical people that took care of all the technical issues, while they concentrated on the other important aspects of IM like traffic, copywriting etc.. Together they each reached true synergy.
            Since I have seen several posts about JV on mailing lists and other activities, may I suggest to try and form JV between technically inclined people in this tread and the other disciplines inclined persons. It will surely shorten the "Time to Money/Success".
            With numerous action oriented people on this tread, if my idea will be accepted, it should not take long to get many JV teams to move forward together.
            ...Just another thought in the effort to improve the odds of the Pareto law (80:20 law of life)

            Dany
            Very interesting concept, and could be very good to put together. Will look into the logistics of it and advise here and on NN. Good to see another post from you Dany!
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            • Profile picture of the author danyray
              Originally Posted by bryce View Post

              Very interesting concept, and could be very good to put together. Will look into the logistics of it and advise here and on NN. Good to see another post from you Dany!
              Bryce

              It is a tested and proven concept. Each person is good at something that he/she likes to do, and combining forces will allow each person to do what they can do best so the total is higher than the sum of the components.
              On a practical note, each person interested to join forces with someone else, can post in a place that will be determined (separate tread or something), what they are good at and what they would like to concentrate on. People with complementing skills and preferences can match and start working together. I see teams of 2-4 will probably be ideal. The key is in having complimentary skills and preferences.
              I can relate a good experience I had teaming up with another person that is an expert in building websites, but felt he could use some help in the other marketing activities required to monetize this knowledge. We teamed up and brainstorm on a regular basis. He does the technical staff, and shows me how he does it, while I do the research and marketing staff and share it with him. We both bring to each other additional information and eBooks we buy or get a hold of, share the cost of new WSOs and do them together, so we are both getting very much more than we put into it. Another benefit here is that when taking on a WSO or other program to develop, testing and fine tuning costs are shared and the risk is significantly reduced and mistakes are avoided because two different people are looking at it before its done.
              Thought this information will give additional incentive to people in this tread to give it a go.
              Will be glad to participate also if this takes place.

              Dany
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              • Profile picture of the author bryce
                Originally Posted by danyray View Post

                Bryce

                It is a tested and proven concept. Each person is good at something that he/she likes to do, and combining forces will allow each person to do what they can do best so the total is higher than the sum of the components.
                On a practical note, each person interested to join forces with someone else, can post in a place that will be determined (separate tread or something), what they are good at and what they would like to concentrate on. People with complementing skills and preferences can match and start working together. I see teams of 2-4 will probably be ideal. The key is in having complimentary skills and preferences.
                I can relate a good experience I had teaming up with another person that is an expert in building websites, but felt he could use some help in the other marketing activities required to monetize this knowledge. We teamed up and brainstorm on a regular basis. He does the technical staff, and shows me how he does it, while I do the research and marketing staff and share it with him. We both bring to each other additional information and eBooks we buy or get a hold of, share the cost of new WSOs and do them together, so we are both getting very much more than we put into it. Another benefit here is that when taking on a WSO or other program to develop, testing and fine tuning costs are shared and the risk is significantly reduced and mistakes are avoided because two different people are looking at it before its done.
                Thought this information will give additional incentive to people in this tread to give it a go.
                Will be glad to participate also if this takes place.

                Dany
                I agree with this concept, and believe it will be a great way to get new people up to speed with certain aspects of IM and other related subjects.

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    Hi Karen,

    If your paying for the trip I will be there...only ever been to Dublin!

    Any problems just let me know its quite easy once you get going but that's what they say about everything isn't it?

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    • Profile picture of the author bryce
      Originally Posted by Dhrousha View Post

      Hi again all,

      I've been following you all daily but have not had much to add.

      But... guess what? I have another techie query.

      I installed wordpress on Hostgator - do I edit this as per the free wordpress - which even I found easy...?

      There doesn't seem to be many themes so how do i upload a theme from somewhere else?

      If I wasn't in the wilds of Ireland - about an hour and a half away from a decent sized town - I would find someone to teach me all this face to face.

      I've done the searches for wordpress etc. But there doesn't seem to be anything that instructs step by step - it's straight to the 'upload wordpress (which I managed to figure out by trial and error!), upload your theme,then begin editing'

      So, my apologies for asking some very basic stuff again.

      Regards

      Karen
      Hi Karen,

      I remember when I first looked at WP and it was confusing to me as well. However as Keith says it is a very simple platform to work with, with probably the most flexibility, when you consider all the themes and plugins available to use with it.

      Keith has given some really great information there for using the theme system, and I will add some more specific information, as well as some plugins that will help, over on Novice Nation. As an example there are literally thousands of themes available for WP, and most of the great ones, are not available via the WP main site. I have hundreds on my PC, and I will show you how to get these.

      There are plugins available like the "1 click install" that will allow you to save theme files (I wlll give you some links to get these) to your hard drive, and then from the back end of your WP site, you simply browse for them on your computer, and install them with the click of a button. The same plugin will allow you to install other plugins in the same way.

      If you can dedicate some quality time to learning the back end of WP, I am sure you will be running like a pro in no time at all.

      Originally Posted by zigstonk View Post

      One of the best threads I've seen on WF. Many thanks to originator and all others who've contributed. I've subscribed, and will hope for many more updates.
      Welcome to the thread zigstonk! I am sure there will be plenty more to see here as we head towards 10 pages
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  • Profile picture of the author stgga
    We can add on to this one, but I find it very helpful to have a thread that is vetting out obstcles and challenges to success. we are actually getttin IM/Am types in the Atlanta area together....so anyone near atlanta sound off. There has also been some interest to set up confernece calls to help one another...any interet thoughts on that? At first blush forum seem s adequate but it helps to be real time blue-sky ideas.
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    • Profile picture of the author bryce
      Originally Posted by stgga View Post

      We can add on to this one, but I find it very helpful to have a thread that is vetting out obstcles and challenges to success. we are actually getttin IM/Am types in the Atlanta area together....so anyone near atlanta sound off. There has also been some interest to set up confernece calls to help one another...any interet thoughts on that? At first blush forum seem s adequate but it helps to be real time blue-sky ideas.
      Sounds interesting, and of course anything of benefit to novices is great! The thread has been a big help to a number of people now, and it will continue to be I guess. What type of ideas do you have in mind, or if you would rather discuss the specifics of an idea - off forum, you are welcome to pop over to NN and join up there.
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    would be very interested in the new book for Newbies
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  • Profile picture of the author johnpaulgrant
    I have been looking for quality internet business communities to join ... anyone know of any. The only decent one seems to be internet-business-mastery.com but would like to know what else is out there.
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    • Profile picture of the author Karen Connell
      Originally Posted by johnpaulgrant View Post

      I have been looking for quality internet business communities to join ... anyone know of any. The only decent one seems to be internet-business-mastery.com but would like to know what else is out there.
      The community you suggested above seems to be somehwere that is simply selling their product - or maybe I was just put off by the landing page?

      I'm also looking for a forum/comunity to join where I can put a link to my site (as in sig file on here).

      But this is the place that I'll always come to for help!

      Bryce et al,

      Whuhoo - I'VE DONE IT! My next project is learning simple html:confused:

      Can you please give me your opinion on my very first website? I know it's not fantastic but I put it up anyway to have a platform to market my services.

      Any comments would be gratefully received (I'm thick skinned - so go for the jugular!)

      Regards

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  • Profile picture of the author jeffchong
    John,

    I would suggest you to join Marketing Mastermind. It's a web 2.0 Internet Marketing Community, where internet marketers around the globe gather together to blog, share, & connect to each other. Don't forget to add me in your list there too... marketing-mastermind.com/jeffchong/ .. See you there!
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    sounds like a gud idea
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    • Profile picture of the author artofbizz
      good thread..interesting..full of step..strategies and opinion and idea..this threads really meaningful to me as a newbies who in 'step-by-step' in this online world..thanks guys..i really mean it!

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  • Profile picture of the author Karen Connell
    Is this thread coming to it's conclusion?

    That's sad to see - especially for all the very new folk who find great advice and support here.

    'RIP' - Newbies Stick Together!

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  • Profile picture of the author Karen Connell
    Hi Walter,

    Good Luck with your plan.

    There is lots of great info on this forum. Do a search for anything you need to know - there will always be something!

    Regards

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  • Profile picture of the author Karen Connell
    Hi Bryce,

    I am so glad to hear that this thread is not dying a death - I try and direct anyone with basic questions on the main forums to this thread, because all advice is given freely and without being patronising, as can so often be the case with some forums. I can honestly say that it is largely due to this thread that I actually got off my butt and 'went for it'.

    To all who contributed to my basic education - thank you!

    Thank you for the encouragement re: my website. (I'm blushing now!)

    I did change a few things but couldn't bring myself to go for the 'hard sell'.

    I don't ask for emails (despite what I've been told!) because if someone checks out the freebies and they're not the of the style/quality that they're looking for, they won't buy from me in the future - so I won't need their emails. If they like the articles and order more then obviously I get their email then.

    I've checked out NN a few times but there has never been anyone on when I've been there - probably the different time zones.

    Anyway, again - thanks for the encouragement.

    Karen
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    • Profile picture of the author Cassie18
      Hi all -

      I have just been on this forum since June and have learned a lot. I think I am starting to see the light at then end of the tunnel as to which way I want to go. I have absolutely no IM experience but am a great learner and a hard worker. I appreciate everyone's kindness!!

      Karen - your site looks wonderful to me. If one were to purchase articles from you, would they be used for blogs, and/or can they be submitted to ezine articles. I have not read ezine's conditions or terms yet so I generally am in the dark about this. I am under the impression that articles have to be original (meaning from me) and not another source.

      Bryce - will probably join NN at sometime, but right now I would feel like a taker and not a giver. I have nothing to offer and feel bad just being a sponge. My hope is that I can help others at some point in my life. Thanks for all your encouragement!
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      • Profile picture of the author ejmjs
        Originally Posted by Dhrousha View Post

        Hi Bryce,

        I am so glad to hear that this thread is not dying a death - I try and direct anyone with basic questions on the main forums to this thread, because all advice is given freely and without being patronising, as can so often be the case with some forums. I can honestly say that it is largely due to this thread that I actually got off my butt and 'went for it'.

        To all who contributed to my basic education - thank you!

        Thank you for the encouragement re: my website. (I'm blushing now!)

        I did change a few things but couldn't bring myself to go for the 'hard sell'.

        I don't ask for emails (despite what I've been told!) because if someone checks out the freebies and they're not the of the style/quality that they're looking for, they won't buy from me in the future - so I won't need their emails. If they like the articles and order more then obviously I get their email then.

        I've checked out NN a few times but there has never been anyone on when I've been there - probably the different time zones.

        Anyway, again - thanks for the encouragement.

        Karen
        I'm glad you have had much inspiration from members of this thread! It's great to see so many like myself benefit from the collective knowledge that we all share. I quite often go into the NN forum (I check several times a day) and usually It's just me in there but sometimes I pop in and it's a hive of new posts.

        Originally Posted by Cassie18 View Post

        Hi all -

        I have just been on this forum since June and have learned a lot. I think I am starting to see the light at then end of the tunnel as to which way I want to go. I have absolutely no IM experience but am a great learner and a hard worker. I appreciate everyone's kindness!!

        Karen - your site looks wonderful to me. If one were to purchase articles from you, would they be used for blogs, and/or can they be submitted to ezine articles. I have not read ezine's conditions or terms yet so I generally am in the dark about this. I am under the impression that articles have to be original (meaning from me) and not another source.

        Bryce - will probably join NN at sometime, but right now I would feel like a taker and not a giver. I have nothing to offer and feel bad just being a sponge. My hope is that I can help others at some point in my life. Thanks for all your encouragement!
        We all have something to share, you would be suprised. Sometimes it's just being able talk to others about our aims. Come on in and join up. Don't worry about being a "taker" as we all start learning somewhere.
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      • Profile picture of the author Karen Connell
        Originally Posted by Cassie18 View Post

        Hi all -

        I have just been on this forum since June and have learned a lot. I think I am starting to see the light at then end of the tunnel as to which way I want to go. I have absolutely no IM experience but am a great learner and a hard worker. I appreciate everyone's kindness!!

        Karen - your site looks wonderful to me. If one were to purchase articles from you, would they be used for blogs, and/or can they be submitted to ezine articles. I have not read ezine's conditions or terms yet so I generally am in the dark about this. I am under the impression that articles have to be original (meaning from me) and not another source.

        Bryce - will probably join NN at sometime, but right now I would feel like a taker and not a giver. I have nothing to offer and feel bad just being a sponge. My hope is that I can help others at some point in my life. Thanks for all your encouragement!
        Hi Cassie,

        Welcome, you will find that everyone on this thread is really helpful.

        If you've read through the thread (daunting task with 10 pages!) you'll see that it was not so long ago that I couldn't even put up a website. But with all the generous help and encouragement, I made a start.

        I don't know how far along you are in IM but, if you are only just starting, my advice to you would be to decide on one thing that you want to do then decide what steps you are going to take to achieve it.

        Only when you have completed your first objective should you start on something else - it is so easy to get side-tracked by the next 'easiest way to riches' that you are offered. Most things that you need to know about can be found on this forum for free - just do a search or ask on here first.

        If there is something you need to ask - please do.

        Someone will always try and help.

        Regarding articles - Ezine do want original articles - not PLR, but it doesn't matter who writes them as long as they've not been published on ezine before. If you buy original articles from someone you have also bought the right to those articles exclusively (they are your property and so will not be found on Ezine until you put them there) - you can put your own name on as author. You can also use your original articles on your website or blogs as well.

        If you buy PLR articles you generally would have to re-write them to be accepted on ezine, but PLR is great for website content or blogs.

        Good luck and keep in touch.

        Regards

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  • Profile picture of the author Karen Connell
    Hi all,

    Guess who?:p

    Yep, me again!

    I tried asking on the website design etc. forum but I always feel like an idiot when they talk at me in initials and everyone knows this basic stuff!

    I am building another (Yes me!) site using the table format as shown in Chris Farrells book. My question is: How can I put text ie. adsense, down the side of the table which contains the content? Sort of in the background area if you know what I mean.

    Or would I be better using a pre-designed template?

    Thanks

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    • Profile picture of the author Cassie18
      Hi Karen-

      Thanks for your encouraging words. I am finding much help here and people seem to be generous with their time and help.

      When I say I am new to this-I mean I just starting looking into the possibilities on June 23 when I luckily found this forum and signed up. I am somewhat timid in posting and asking for help because I don't know what all the abbreviations mean (what is an PLR :p).

      Congrats on starting another website. It's kind of funny you mentioned Chris Farrell. He is one of the people I am currently listening to. I may sign up for his membership. I am going to do what you and many others suggest by starting one project because I can easily see where people jump into too many things and get overwhelmed. There are two others that I am going to purchase and learn from. Otherwise the only ebook I purchased back in May was Honest Riches by Holly Mann. Have you ever heard of her? I purchased it when I was told I was getting laid off and thought about earning an income at home. Now that I am laid off, I am just trying to figure out my next step.

      Thanks for your input and help and I am sure I will be in touch with you again .

      ejmjs - thanks also for your words of encourgement. It is much appreciated!!
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      • Profile picture of the author ejmjs
        Originally Posted by Cassie18 View Post

        Hi Karen-

        Thanks for your encouraging words. I am finding much help here and people seem to be generous with their time and help.

        When I say I am new to this-I mean I just starting looking into the possibilities on June 23 when I luckily found this forum and signed up. I am somewhat timid in posting and asking for help because I don't know what all the abbreviations mean (what is an PLR :p).

        Congrats on starting another website. It's kind of funny you mentioned Chris Farrell. He is one of the people I am currently listening to. I may sign up for his membership. I am going to do what you and many others suggest by starting one project because I can easily see where people jump into too many things and get overwhelmed. There are two others that I am going to purchase and learn from. Otherwise the only ebook I purchased back in May was Honest Riches by Holly Mann. Have you ever heard of her? I purchased it when I was told I was getting laid off and thought about earning an income at home. Now that I am laid off, I am just trying to figure out my next step.

        Thanks for your input and help and I am sure I will be in touch with you again .

        ejmjs - thanks also for your words of encourgement. It is much appreciated!!
        You are very welcome!
        Well don't be afraid to ask away. PLR stands for "Private Label Rights" which means you have the right to sell something as your own work. You can rebrand the product and repackage it etc. Sometimes the PLR comes as an upsell option from people that sell a product. Upsell is basically just a term that means - to sell you something else - usually of a higher value but not always the case.
        Yeah solid advice that, keep focused on you goals, break them down into smaller goals with realistic timescales whilst still pushing you. Write down your goals and read them everyday!

        Theres a couple of things in NN that will help. There's an article in there about "bum marketing" that will help you focus to make some cash if you don't have a direction just yet. Might be worth a look for you.

        Anyway speak soon. Anymore questions, just fire away.
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      • Profile picture of the author Karen Connell
        Originally Posted by Cassie18 View Post

        Hi Karen-

        Thanks for your encouraging words. I am finding much help here and people seem to be generous with their time and help.

        When I say I am new to this-I mean I just starting looking into the possibilities on June 23 when I luckily found this forum and signed up. I am somewhat timid in posting and asking for help because I don't know what all the abbreviations mean (what is an PLR :p).

        Congrats on starting another website. It's kind of funny you mentioned Chris Farrell. He is one of the people I am currently listening to. I may sign up for his membership. I am going to do what you and many others suggest by starting one project because I can easily see where people jump into too many things and get overwhelmed. There are two others that I am going to purchase and learn from. Otherwise the only ebook I purchased back in May was Honest Riches by Holly Mann. Have you ever heard of her? I purchased it when I was told I was getting laid off and thought about earning an income at home. Now that I am laid off, I am just trying to figure out my next step.

        Thanks for your input and help and I am sure I will be in touch with you again .

        ejmjs - thanks also for your words of encourgement. It is much appreciated!!
        Hi again,

        It's not many weeks ago that I was where you are now. Since then I have decided which path to go down and am learning as I go. Step by step. I'm sure everyone looks at my posts and says 'Oh no, not again!' but I've yet to feel that I'm being patronised - everyone just tries their best to help!

        As I said previously, everyone on here is really nice so please do ask if you need to know anything - however basic you think it is. Everyone has to start somewhere and all the contributors to this thread are very generous with their help and advice.

        I will just offer one small piece of advice (from my own experience!) - don't spend money on ebooks etc. unless you are absolutely sure it is something that will help you move a step closer to your current goal rather than taking you in a different direction. There are not many ebooks that give you stuff that you can't find for free if you search on here or on google.

        I was made aware of Chris Farrells free ebook about building a simple website by someone on this thread - it is a great book to start with if, like me, you don't know anything about building a website. It is simple with 'idiot proof' instructions - and if I can do it, anyone can!

        I haven't joined his membership site, I just signed up for his free newsletter and he emails very useful stuff regularly. His newsletter was one of the few I kept when I was unsubscribing from all the lists I had opted in to.

        Good Luck

        Karen
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  • Profile picture of the author mayapearl
    I am also a newbie, love it all so far although it gets a little frustrating at times, I mean I still get stuck on terminology! Being a bit of a cheapskate I have not spent any money, only to set up my site, i will however sign up on a good reputable coaching set up. A good free one I was recommended by someone close is "The 30 Day challenge", they are free and give heaps of useful info on how to do stuff.
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  • Profile picture of the author Karen Connell
    Hi Maya - and welcome.

    There is really no need to spend money on 'the next best thing'.

    Have a tour round this forum

    http://www.warriorforum.com/make-money-online/

    There are heaps of FREE ebooks, reports etc. If you can't find something that you need in there I'd be very surprised.

    Anyhow, as I've said many times in this thread, if you need to know anything - just ask.

    Good Luck

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  • Profile picture of the author cganz
    I have two things to add to this thread but before I do I just wanted to say the getting to be part of a major jv for any newbie is probably like 'spitting in the wind'. It just isn't a great idea. Most major IMs want you to have a substantial targeted list before they'll open up even as much as a discussion. It appears to me to be a pretty much closed club.

    For that reason I just started jv4newbies.com. This is a totally free website where newbies can make offers and requests for jvs with other like minded newbies. Lots of little lists do eventually make one large list. Anyway, this is just my attemtp to make this work for everyone. Suggestions are welcome.

    Secondly, I'd welcome the opportunity myself to do a jv with anyone in the IM market. We can discuss this privately. Thanks and good luck.
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    • Profile picture of the author webdude2000
      Hi

      I have registered in your forum and although I can login I cannot access the forum threads. Do I need a separate password for this?

      Regards
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      Originally Posted by cganz View Post

      I have two things to add to this thread but before I do I just wanted to say the getting to be part of a major jv for any newbie is probably like 'spitting in the wind'. It just isn't a great idea. Most major IMs want you to have a substantial targeted list before they'll open up even as much as a discussion. It appears to me to be a pretty much closed club.

      For that reason I just started jv4newbies.com. This is a totally free website where newbies can make offers and requests for jvs with other like minded newbies. Lots of little lists do eventually make one large list. Anyway, this is just my attemtp to make this work for everyone. Suggestions are welcome.

      Secondly, I'd welcome the opportunity myself to do a jv with anyone in the IM market. We can discuss this privately. Thanks and good luck.
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      • Profile picture of the author bryce
        Hi everybody and welcome back Dave!

        I wanted to come on and see what was happening here today, and saw the last 2 posts about JV's for newbies, and although I know this thread was started as a JV thread, it is interesting that it has eveolved into much more than this.

        It interests me when I see comments like "spitting in the wind" and I often wonder why anyone would be so hung up on getting into bed with the "so called big boys"

        From my own experience I have attempted this twice and let me tell you what the outcome of this was.

        (1) A 'self professed major player" in the states, who said that he had a list of IM buyers that numbered in excess of 40,000 and whom is a member of this forum, who after 12 email conversations and 2 months of talking, arranging, and planning, disappeared for weeks and weeks. No comments, no emails, and no resulting JV! He dropped me like a hot cake and I still have no idea why! - Who cares.

        (2) A second US "master seller" professed to "LOVE" my product and would love "exclusive" international rights to the product, as well as 90% of the proceeds from sales! HA, yeah right, like that was going to heppen ) His reasoning (and this came right from his mouth) "I needed him more than he needed me" - Well that may have been true at the time, but he didnt count on the Kiwi tenacity, and when he finally pulled his head out of his ass, and offered me a 30% return, I told him where to put his offer.

        Even when I was down and out and thinking of throwing the whole IM thing away for good, I would not ever take such deals, nor would I deal with anyone with less integrity than a counterfeit banknote.

        This is what is different about this thread and the members at NN. It is not "all" about the money - Integrity still rules, and it always will for me.

        This goes the same for product! Why would I promote to my list of subscribers or customers, a product I have absolutely no idea about?! This does not make sense to me!

        Anyway this has little to do with the 2 posts above, except that it relates to JV's. Be careful with whom you do business, and be committed to the product and/or service you are recommending.
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        • Profile picture of the author studio52
          I am also still a "Newbie" Kind of like Novice a bit better..Reading some of Karens articles, Id like to give some insight. (my own of course).

          Yes there are many ways to locate information for free on the internet. I use those sources as Im sure many of us do. But I have also been in the "brick and mortar" business as well. The one thing IMing and Brick&Mortar businesses have in common is that they are both serious businesses.

          You cant drive a Cadillac by learning for free how a combustion engine works.
          You cant live in a mansion by reading some carpentry freebies at the library.
          and you wont succeed at Internet Marketing by getting some freebies.

          Yes, we all must be careful when choosing which script, or program or piece of software we purchase. But we will need to buy these and many other items to compete. You can learn how to build a great squeeze page for free, make it look like a million bucks. But who's gonna see it? Until your PLUGGED IN, to some type of proven system, and have a website thats getting 10K to 20K hits a month, your gonna be stuck with.....nothing, that amounts to much at all.

          If you find a way to make tons of cash without a mailing list or buying advertising,or joing membership sites..let me know..I will be an affiliate quickly...lol

          Ken
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          • Profile picture of the author Karen Connell
            Originally Posted by studio52 View Post

            I am also still a "Newbie" Kind of like Novice a bit better..Reading some of Karens articles, Id like to give some insight. (my own of course).

            Yes there are many ways to locate information for free on the internet. I use those sources as Im sure many of us do. But I have also been in the "brick and mortar" business as well. The one thing IMing and Brick&Mortar businesses have in common is that they are both serious businesses.

            You cant drive a Cadillac by learning for free how a combustion engine works.
            You cant live in a mansion by reading some carpentry freebies at the library.
            and you wont succeed at Internet Marketing by getting some freebies.

            Yes, we all must be careful when choosing which script, or program or piece of software we purchase. But we will need to buy these and many other items to compete. You can learn how to build a great squeeze page for free, make it look like a million bucks. But who's gonna see it? Until your PLUGGED IN, to some type of proven system, and have a website thats getting 10K to 20K hits a month, your gonna be stuck with.....nothing, that amounts to much at all.

            If you find a way to make tons of cash without a mailing list or buying advertising,or joing membership sites..let me know..I will be an affiliate quickly...lol

            Ken
            Hi Ken,

            I absolutely agree that, at some point, you need to invest some hard cash in your business.

            The point I tried to make is that it is not necessary, when you are new to all this and still not sure which direction you are going to take, to buy everything that arrives in your mailbox. Have a look round to see if a similar thing is available for free.

            If, however, you see something that will take you closer to your goal, that is a different story.

            I know from my own experience that is extremely tempting, when you see the excellent landing pages out there, not to buy everything that arrives in your mailbox!

            Good Luck

            Regards

            Karen
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    • Profile picture of the author studio52
      Originally Posted by cganz View Post

      I have two things to add to this thread but before I do I just wanted to say the getting to be part of a major jv for any newbie is probably like 'spitting in the wind'. It just isn't a great idea. Most major IMs want you to have a substantial targeted list before they'll open up even as much as a discussion. It appears to me to be a pretty much closed club.

      For that reason I just started jv4newbies.com. This is a totally free website where newbies can make offers and requests for jvs with other like minded newbies. Lots of little lists do eventually make one large list. Anyway, this is just my attemtp to make this work for everyone. Suggestions are welcome.

      Secondly, I'd welcome the opportunity myself to do a jv with anyone in the IM market. We can discuss this privately. Thanks and good luck.
      Thanks Cary,

      I am on your mailing list. And I check out your links regularly. Always something to learn, so again, thanks.

      Ken
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  • Profile picture of the author spacemonkee2010
    Hey everyone,
    I haven't been on here in a little while to chime in because it looks like everyone's doing well at keeping things going. I just went over and read David Chamberlain's (the one who started this thread) latest blog post and it has to do with planning. That's one of the most important things you can do is to make yourself a plan and stick to it.

    As far as relying on free information (I'm actually having a conversation regarding this with someone right now) I think there's so much information out there that in theory you really could do this without having a buy a single product. That being said, there are always going to be expenses (website domains, paid advertising etc.). But there are resources galore regarding anything you want to know how to do that are free.

    My roommate and I have bought only one product since we got started and that has led us to finding free resources ourselves. We believe this system to be the best and most thorough course on the market for the money (I'm not trying to sell it here, but if you want to know more contact me) and have become affiliates.

    I think there's a psychology behind putting money into something that motivates you to take action so that it won't be quite such a waste. No matter what you see or read however will replace the fact that this takes a lot of time sitting in front of a computer to get it to the point where you don't have to spend as much time maintaining it.

    I would also like to encourage more question asking on here. Don't think that you're being a taker by asking questions. If you ask a question, there may be six other people who have the same question and haven't asked it. When you get an answer, you just helped out six people by asking it. Just another angle to look at it from.

    Its amazing to see us all growing and coming together on this stuff. If you haven't signed up over at Novice Nation yet, you're missing out. Lots of good stuff over there and resources as well. Bryce has done a FANTASTIC job with it (Thanks Bryce). Keep going and you'll get there.
    Justin
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