Hi Methomas,

I emailed you at JV-Edge but have not received a reply from you.
It will be great if I can work with you.
You can reach me at pearlins@gmail.com

I have a small list in the IM niche.
Thanks!

Like the idea, it is difficult when you have no name and no money, I have lot's of plr stuff you can use in return for advertising some of my offers - I am following you on twitter, let me know if interested - dean

Why assume he is on a IM niche.
If he only started 1 month ago, and he is going on the IM niche this is un-logical ...
If you go IM and have nothing to really give your list you are going to get a bad name, this is like a pyramid game. If you have experience then you go IM it is something alse.

Hi,

Not enough post to pm could you pm me with more infp?

Just a point butsurely you are better writing soem good content, it is not rocket science, if you know your niche. Even newbies understand that PLR content is garbage, and most people don't want or need it

I think the idea is a good one! For a long time, a long time ago I banged my head on a brick wall trying to get some (what I thought were) quality products to market, and to no avail.

I then wrote a 50 page ebook warning people of the scams that were around, and providing genuine work from home opportunies offered by some of Americas top companies. I then completed a software product to save people money and time, all the time targeted at people new to the internet. The problem was I spent my time creating new ideas, solutions, websites and products, and little time building lists of ineterested people.

I hate spam, bullshit and scammy bonuses, and personally I stay away from these as a customer. I therefore dont do this kind of stuff with my own products.

What I have just started is (as you mention) site flipping, and have sold 3 to date. I have just finished the basic foundation for my next site at www.sites4sale.aceslegacy.com, and here I start to deal with the flipping business and Internet traffic, etc.

I have a range of great products and product ideas, and I would love nothing more than to see a small group of newbies make lots of money from these, keeping the gurus away. I mean, 200 newbies with marketing lists of 100 people each is already 20000 subscribers to promote to.

I will be subscribing to this thread to see where it goes. In the meantime, if anyone is interested in this concept, and wants to get involved or take a look at what I have on the new site, let me know. That would be cool.

Thanks for this thread
Bryce

Thanks Dave,

You are right about the "taking your money" thing, I have been there many times. This is one of the reasons I designed and built the EZYTRAK system, and only went with offers and deals that had a minimum of 30days guarantee time. This gave me time to analyse the material, decide if it was for me, and then EZYTRAK would automatically remind when the guarantee deadline was looming. I could then effect the guarantee in time.

I was also considering a small site that was dedicated to "Poor Online Service" where bad sellers, merchants, etc would be listed for all to see. In fact this could still be on the cards. Maybe it is something that Newbies could benefit by.... Like an early warning system of sorts. Hmmmm lets not give too much away in case we can set this up.

Regarding your "giving people a hand up" I believe this has already been done by you creating this thread. I think there is always scope for people to help others, no matter where they are at. There is always going to be people that know less than you do.

Your attitude and ambitions are what is important to succeed. It sounds like you are certianly in the right head space to make it work for you.

I will PM you with details about the products. In the meantime, if you would like to take a look at the EZYTRAK software details head over to www.ezytrak.com and there you will find the "sample" page with a tutorial linked to it. This will give you an overview of the product. Personally I think every person who is spending money online, should have it. It will save them lots of money and time.

Talk soon - I love the idea of forming a Newbie space where everyone can benefit with very little resources.

Regards
Bryce

Hey Dave
I am a true newbie myself. I started a blog about a week ago. I found this warrior forum and there is so much information here. I enjoy reading your posts as it makes me feel like I can do this internet thing. I also work full time and would really jump at the chance to be able to work from home doing something I love. Creating an online business!

Totally agree, and there has never been a better time in my opinion, as the numbers of unemployed rise beyond comprehension!

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Personally I think the basic provision of books and software is not enough! Think about all the issues and brick walls you have come across since being online, and i believe there could be a site creation here, that outstrips everything already in place. A one stop shop for newbies. (AND ONLY NEWBIES)

I like the idea of "vetting" and there are some different ways of doing this! i agree with the idea of only having material that has been tested by the site developers, and or members, and this will go a long way for the reputation of the site.

There is also scope for a Membership Site beyond compare! A small monthly charge for anything and everything avaiable on the site.

Although i have not added the membership option yet, my site at www.sites4sale.aceslegacy.com is already providing useful articles (unique) and resources that I have personally used, tested, and enjoyed. The initial flavour of the site was to to sell websites, and I have now expanded this to run along my original platform of The Newbie Lounge.

This is already getting exciting, and more serious conversation and planning should probably be happening off forum.

Regards
Bryce

Hi there Lia,

Thanks for stopping by! You are right, it isnt easy to get any response from those people who label themselves GURUS. Big list, small list, we are all here for the same reason. We all fundamentally desire to make a little (or a lot) of money online, and thats what some people tend to lose sight of.

People with huge lists are often non-campassionate people who only have the dollar signs in their eyes, and this always makes it difficult for the genuine carers to crack into the market. We have to deal with the reputations that others cast, because they get to market generally before the little guy. This is not true of them all, but it id for the vast majority.

The idea of pooling resources, and spending time developing a "zone" just for new people is a cool idea, and we will make this happen. Keep in touch and pop back when you can to keep on top of whats new. I am acting on this idea as we speak, and while Dave is busy with his job and other projects, I will do what I can to formulate something solid, reputable and valuable.

Maybe PM me (or Dave) with details about what line you are in.

Sincerely
Bryce

Welcome Phil

Hi everyone,

Well it looks like we are good to go, so I was wondering.....

As a newbie, or someone new to the world of making money online, what would be the top 3 things you feel would benefit you the most? In other words, take a look at where you are at, and where you want to be this time in 2 months, what would be the three most important things to get you there?

If you can list them here, we can source the best we can for you!

Ideas......

Traffic, Product, Hosting Services, Domain Names, Advice, Ideas, Website Development, Blog, Themes, Graphics, etc etc etc.

Sincerely
Bryce

Right on littlejake!

I usually take a quick look if they are offering something, but if I see anything like I witnessed in that example, that's it for me. To top that one off, I actually wrote a nce explanation why I was unimpressed with the product, and not only did I NOT receive a reply, the same product was promoted to me again through email, a couple of days later. I removed myself from the mailing list.

Thanks for your post littlejake
Bryce

Hi nashelver, welcome to the thread!

WOW your template looks very cool, I love it. In fact so much that I have bookmarked the template site for use with this new project. You will get this looking really great I am sure. It is great to hear you have made some money online, and that after all, is what everybody wants to be able to do, without first spending next years mortgage payments. Well done!

Keep popping in for a look or subscribe to this thread as I think you will see some massive input here, and some wonderful developments that could really help with your ongoing commitment to online earning.

Regards
Bryce

Well put Dave,

I meant to say the same thing about desperation, but got side tracked when I wrote about integrity, hahahaha.

Dave is exactly right about the "method to method" concept and I am speaking from experience. This type of desperation can cost an arm and a leg, and in the end, you are right back at square one, with NO money. It is better to be desperate and have a little money, and to be desperate and broke.

In fact if anyone is contemplating joining something like affiliate marketing, etc - maybe throw the product into the conversation here before you do. We may have already paid for it, tried it, or heard of people that have reviewed it.

Back soon
Bryce

Its is definately what i am looking to do have started the site affiliatekindergarten(dot) com and written a few articles but dont wanna waste my time submitting them and not being able to catch a list.

Also have any of you guys found a product on clickbank that actually offers near to what the sales page promises, its difficult to promote a product i dont believe in.

Well seems you newbies are doing great i have also learned a huge amount in these last few months and believe that there is still huge money to be made on the net and who knows we could be the gurus with integrity in the next few years

Hi Everyone - Excellent thread
It's funny how there are so many 'Guru's' out there hey?? I was very sucked in to the whole 'buy my shit' sales copy. Although I am not alone in that dept
Everything you need is right here within the forum, just search for it and you will come accross some WF Gold
Great to hear how you are all progressing
To Our Success People

Hello Elaine,

Thankyou for your kindness. My mother is fine (well as can be expected), my grandmother passed away. She was 92 so I guess she had a great life, she was a wonderful lady.

I am pleased to be close to mum now, and hopefully she knows she can lean on me if and when she needs to. My family are a tough bunch of individuals though, lol.

Thanks again I appreciate it very much

Bryce

I think your advice is very useful. As a newbie we want some quick fix to building a list and utilizing it properly. But there really is no quick fix, it takes time and forums like this help us understand this better.
Thanks,
jetinc

Hello Mike,

Thankyou for your kindness! I have one grandparent remaining with us now, and my mum is still going strong as well. It is never nice to lose people we love, and although we all know it comes our way at some point, it is something I never get used to.

Welcome to the thread and congrats on the 2nd site my friend. 2 people on a list is better than nobody on your list, and it is from small beginnings big things are realised. We will help all we can, and I am sure you will find some great information in coming days, as has already been found in Elaines post and others as well.

Thanks again Mike, keep in touch
Bryce

Hello Ward and welcome to the thread!

I agree about the sticky thing, lol - maybe when we have a few more entries and the traffic starts to come, haha. Your product sounds interesting, and I would love to take a look. Over the next few days we will be starting on setting up the basic framework for the Newbie Lounge, and this is where we can utilise and help with your products.

Is your product suitable for newbies?

Anyway keep coming back and if you have any suggestions as to content or contribution that you think you can offer, dont hesitate to PM me, or contact Dave. You are most welcome.

As I'm in the Forex Niche with my forex blog review, we (my 114 subscribers list and I lol) can't get involved in your great project. Unfortunately, i really support what you're doing and we should be trying to do that oftener as it is more than tough to find partners when you're beginning ! Don't worry, we'll all succeed one day !

Cheers, Samuel !

Man i am glad i stop by great information being posted in here.I have also started growing my list using traffic exchanges with a landing page with free plr for their email. Doing good with it looking to expand to forums, but not till i get my post up.

Thanks for the info.

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It's Almost Monday Here!...Kick itin the arse this week...LOL
Got some rest, got my deck stained (had to do some manual labor)...hehehe.

Let everyone know here what needs to be done to make it happen!

C'mon NNbies...uh Novices...
Get with it and come on board to NN.
Share what you have and let everyone
help you get to the top.( it really works!)
(colors again)

Yes... we do have the motivation and the inspiration
on this end.... I for one can't get enough! This has been the
best thread ever!

Later.

Another great reply Elaine, and one that should generate some action for Ward. Everybody should take a look at the suggestions here, as these options apply to almost any IM product, and most other product niches.

Well done

Bryce

One of the best threads I've seen on WF. Many thanks to originator and all others who've contributed. I've subscribed, and will hope for many more updates.

Ward, there are other options for turning your work into recordable products. Have you considered someone to vocalise the book for you!? This is something relatively easy to orgabise. In fact a freind of mine in England wrote a series of childrens books and I suggested to him that they would be a great set of recorded books. He too did not like his speaking voice, and I organised that for him. The project was a success.

If you know someone who has a great speaking voice and the right software to record, it may be worth compiling them this way, even as an alternative.

Regards
Bryce

Hi Wade!

What niche is your book in, ie what is about & what market are you aiming it at?

If you would like to send me a Private Message, I'll help you any way I can.

Regards,

Elaine

Hi Nash,

Lets deal with the autoresponder first because it is important to have this set up, or at least, ready to set up for your squeeze page. What service are you using for your autoresponder? There is Aweber and GetResponse, and there are one or two others, but these seem to be the main two, with Aweber being the most widely used I think.

I do have details of a third, that is offering a free trial account so if you have not got an account with anyone yet, and you would like to see the details for this trial account, let me know and I will forward the details.

A squeeze page is a "capture" page that is usually a single page with a simple form on it for your visitors to sign up for a product, package or newsletter. It may be that you have a brief on the product or service or maybe very little information at all, but this is generally what a squeeze page is. You would install the HTML code (easy copy & paste) into the page which would generate the form produced by your autoresponder account. Then when a visitor completed the form details and clicked on submit, their information would be stored in your autoresponder account, ready for you to communicate with.

Regards
Bryce

Hi Nash!

It's hard to get this all straight in your head when you start, isn't it - I've been there!

In a nutshell the steps are:

• Buy a domain name/website address - I bought mine from 123 Reg.
• Build a squeeze page using a Web Editor. I used Kompozer which is free.
• Set up an account with aweber/Get Response. I use aweber and find them great (I'm not an affiliate!). I think Get Response might be a bit less user friendly.
• Create an opt-in form with aweber and add it to your squeeze page.
• Compose autoresponder messages with aweber which go out to your list on a regular basis so you can build up a relationship with them.

Regarding building a squeeze page/one page website, I did this myself and I promise you I was not a techie whizz-kid by any means! I followed the step-by-step instructions in "Create Your First Website by 3:45 This Afternoon". This is not a sales pitch, because the book is free - there is a link to it below if you are interested.

Keep in touch - we've all been where you are now!

Hi Nashelver

Aweber is a standalone autoresponder, I use Getresponse, and I presume it is a similar set-up.

basically, they mange the list, you load up your autoresponder messages and you can also send one-of 'broadcasts'.

People register their name and email address and when you sned an email you may put [First name], Read this. It picks up the name of your subscriber.

I know GetResponse has video tutorials, and I have a good delivery rate, but do your research and choose what you feel best. Make sure you sign up through another Newbies affiliate link if you do. I won't cost you anymore, but you are helping someone, and they will return the favour in the future!

Take care

Dave

Hi Nash!

Thanks for the thanks!!

The opt-in form people type their name and email address into is provided by aweber - aweber give you code that you copy and paste into the code relating to your web page and the opt-in form appears on the web page.

When someone types in their details they get an email asking them to verify their request and once they have done that their name is transferred onto your list at aweber. You set up messages to go out automatically to the people on that list. One straightaway giving a link to where they can download the free product and then every few days after that. And yes, you can fix it so each message is personalised.

Aweber do have tutorials and the have a good support system too.

Hope this helps...

Hi IM Biz System (what's your name?!)

Yes, this IS a nice little corner of the Warrior Forum, isn't it!

Good luck with your list building and your squeeze page

Regards,

Elaine

Hi Crystal!

That's a GREAT idea!!

Keep in touch...

Elaine

Welcome Heather

You are right on jetinc! It does take time, and time is something we all have. The problem is every second wasted is a second lost, and there is so much wasteful information out there, we can go for months and still not get past stage one!

This is the idea behind the newbie site! A place to save all newbies that time, that most hardened IMers have endured. A place to kick start your online business.

Welcome IM Biz System! Would love to see your page when it is ready

I know this feeling well paulied. Been there and bought the t-shirt, and I have also struggled through other issues at the same time. As the posts here suggest, information overload can be a dangerous thing, and we all need to be able to focus on one thing at a time, until it is within our means to multi-task.

For every seasoned Internet Marketer out there, there are probably 10,000 newbies, and from these newbies, only around 500 will ever make any money online. Information overload is largely responsible for the other 9500 not making any money. Hopefully we can swing the odds in our favour here.

Welcome to the thread

Welcome to the thread Traveller51

Cool post Alfred, thanks! I will take a look at the site and see what it offers people new to the internet.

Like Elaine has said Crystal, great idea! Although I would like to see something a little more flexible for some people. Some new people will not have a list at all, and this should not exclude them from anything we attempt to run here.

Just my thoughts, but it would be cool to have things so that every member can benefit.

More great information Dave! Be in touch soon

Welcome Tom, and thankyou! Although Dave was responsible for the thread being started, I just bombarded my way in, LOL.

Welcome!!

Cool Joe, glad you like the thread. Welcome, and look forward to seeing you in the coming days

Hi Missy she, and welcome.....

I can relate to your situation as I am sure most new internet entrepreneurs can. Availability of working capital can be a big frustration, but if it is any help at all, I can tell you that I almost went through bankruptcy a year ago, struggled on, and am still here doing what I love to do. Money sure helps, and it certainly makes some things a lot easier, but spending more money is not always going to generate the results you wanted in the first place.

Hopefully what we can do through this thread and future plans for the Membership site, is provide you with as many resources as possible for little or no cost.

I will hop on over and take a look at your site now, and come back here to post my comments. Just wanted to let you know I had read your post, and welcome you on board here!

Hi missy she,

Been to have a look at your site and although the site itself looks cool, it is marketing a product that has been available for some time. I can only critique something from my personal experience, and as I havent experienced the product, I can't really comment on its effectiveness. I can give you my honest review of the site though, and I will do that here. Before I do this, I would just like to explain to you, that I generally view things from the perspective of a potential customer, and I do have some fairly tight guidelines that I habitually follow, before I will spend money with someone online.

The first thing that hits me about the site, is that there is no "pop up" asking me to sign up for a newsletter or gimmick! I liked this passive nature and it allows me to study the content on the page without giving a second thought to the fact that you will eventually ask me to buy something. However in saying that, maybe the strategic placement of a couple of capture boxes, offering a free excerpt or report, would be an advantage to building your list.

The only place on the page which asks me to action something is at the bottom of the page and it is the "buy now" button.

When I click on the buy now button, I go through to paypal, where I am asked to spend $97 and I notice that the paypal account name is something very different from any reference on the site. Maybe look at changing that or adding a new name to your paypal account that reflects the website name. This would give the purchase process a little more credibility in my opinion.

One of the most important things that I look at (personally) when deciding on a purchase or not, is the layout and the content on the sales page. In this case, the layout is off center and this throws me a little. I will explain to you why (as a customer) I feel this way when I land on any page that is not positioned correctly, is full of spelling errors, or is messy.

My theory is that if a seller or site owner puts little effort into the presentation of the package, there is little liklihood that the expected level of detail has been applied to thier product, or the level of service I might expect to recieve as a customer. This may be just me, but from my research a couple of years ago, it would appear that more than 70% of all internet visitors would feel the same way. The stats showed me that in 2007, 64% of all people polled, would not buy something from a site that presented poorly. In the same research project, more than 80% of all website owners told me that if they were aware of problems on thier presentation, they would do everything in their power to rectify them.

So from a list building perspective, maybe add those lead capture boxes to capture someones email address, by offering something free. Also maybe reallign your page so that it centres in the page, and for those people who will actually click on the buy now button to check the paypal details, change the account name at the top of the page so it looks more like it is a genuine account attached to this site.

I hope this helps in some small way, and if I can be of help with anything, please dont hesitate to contact me.

Bryce

Even though I have been trying and trying to be an affiliate marketer for the past 3 months, I haven't really gotten anywhere. I have written articles, squidoo, usfreeads, and 2 websites, etc etc. I still have made 0 sales. I can get up to the #1 spot on google but that doesn't help either.

Can someone lead me in a direction of building a list, like what is it, how to do it, that sort of thing? I get emails daily from places I have signed up for free stuff and other so I am on a bunch of lists, but I want to have my own but don't have a clue as to how to do it.

Any help is greatly appreciated.
BTW this is a great thread,
Anita

The best way to spend your time as a newbie is learning and doing, just keep repeating this over and over again.

If you learn to much, you will switch off.

What level are you at? Have you got your own website? Do you have an autoresponder?

Let me knwo a bit more about your situation, and i'll give you some better advice!

Thanks

Dave

Hi there joelraitt, and welcome to the thread

Although I dont know of any specifically, I can tell you that there will be one very soon . Keep checking back and I am sure you will be happy with what transpires from this thread and the great people here!

Bryce

I feel a little awkward posting here, because unlike you guys I do not have a set plan. However, I have gotten so many questions over the years from newbies about how to even post a banner somewhere. I would not call anyone here a newbie as you have plans and are taken action to implement them.

I have just started a brand spanking new social network, as a matter of fact I am still working on the back end a little, and have not added hardly any content yet, and I still need to work on some original graphics. The whole idea behind this network is for people to learn how to make with their blogs. The network is set up on buddypress - so everyone can create wordpress blogs (for free), and users will also be able to create backlinks to their own web pages. There are also group features.

I know this will catch on because I plan on catering to extreme newbies, well everyone trying to make money online.

The reason I don't have plan is because I have not figured out how to monetize it yet. I just know that the shoe fits, I like to help and lead.

Anyways you guys are more than welcome to set up a home base over there, and right now you can dominate the area while I continue to spruce up and clean out the cob webs. I just added the link in my signature just for you guys, if you are interested.

whoops I do not think I have enough posts for my signature to show up just check out my homepage on my profile

Hi Dave, Bryce and everyone else.

I'm a Noob. Been in this game since May. Got a microscopic list (7). Made 1 sale on clickbank ($37). Joined a good membership site and this forum. Have a 1 page site up and 3 articles on Ezine. Looking at online assistance for offline businesses with a couple of people local to me.

Glad to be here.

Mike.

Hi Marc,
And Welcome to the thread.

That's a great outline to a plan and that's what
is great to see...a man with a plan!

Can't wait to see it all pulled together!

Hi and welcome Dennis!
Its great to hear you are off to a good start! Keep the flow happening and the results will speak for themselves. Keep chacking here for more news and updates. I am sure you will do well.

Hi karen, welcome to the thread! Wow sounds like you have all the ingredients, and I wish you well with your project. Info overload can be a killer so watch out for that, lol. Good idea to thin out the email subs, as they are usually nothing but time wasters.

Don't be daunted by the "initials" hehehe - they are really quite easy to understand after a short time. I can understand you wanting to have control over your site, and wanting to do it yourself. I was exactly the same.

I notice you have a couple of posts here, so I will leave this one at that and respond to your others regarding their content.


Hi there "Capital N", lol. Welcome to the thread

Excellent news about your 30 subscribers, thats really cool! I would love to see your squeeze page, to see what you have done. I am sure others would also like this.

Good info Jon, and it all makes sense. These are 3 of the bst no cost platforms. Oh and BTW I will reply to your email later today. Sorry mate I was sidetracked for a bit, hehehe :p

Hi there Mr Expert! I am sure that $190 a month is $190 a month more than some people on this thread are making. How about sharing some of the tips you learned to create a daily income of the same amount

Hi again Karen,

I realise this post is aimed at Jon and Mr Expert, but I would just like to butt in (as I do that so well, lol) and add my 2 cents. I can appreciate you wanting a professional looking site, partcularly if you already have the three platforms Jon mentioned above. All of what you have described is fairly easy to accomplish.

Do you have an understanding of basic html and/or site building software. If so you could use NVU or WYSIWYG5 for your site design. NVU is free and WYSIWYG is very cheap considering what it can do. I have and still do use both from time to time. There are also others available, and I will hunt some of the resources I have used over the years, to see if they may help.

A "blog" or "forum" would handle your site queries, as would a simple "F&Q" system or page. All of this is again, fairly easy to set up, particularly if your hosting account has cpanel with Fantastico installed. If you are not sure what these are, I can help give you a better understanding, and I am sure others can too.

The required "bells and whistles" you might need really depends on what you want your site to have attached. The size of the files you have to store on the server (Site) and the resources you want to use. The more you have and the bigger the files, the more bandwidth and disk space you will require. If you intend linking, streaming or hosting video or audio files, these take up a lot of space and your hosting account may need to have some resources that free of very cheap hosting packages don't allow for. Hostgator has a great reputation for their packages and service, and tey have everything you will ever need. Packages start at around $5 a month.

Hope this helps, and doesnt confuse.

Hi Dhrousha,

The link you are looking for about the website building is in my sig.

Mike

Hi James,

I have a Squidoo account and benefits used to be that Google liked Squidoo. I have found many post by others,(not here) that says Google doesn't like Squidoo as much anymore but I still recieve good search rankings using Squidoo.

Another advantage is I find that once you get used to Squidoo, it is a bit more versitile and you have a few more options and features to choose from.
(This comparison is only between Squidoo and Blogger.com)
I don't know which blogging platform you use but I try to use all of them.

If you decide to use Squidoo, let me give you a hint on how to improve your lens ranking... join a group or two that has to do with your particular niche and keep your lens updated.

Hope this Helps.

Until Next Time.

Hi everyone

I think this might be my first post here - lost track of where I have been and where I have posted (forum-wise), so when I have finished I had better go back to the right thread and check whether I have said hello or not - someone mentioned information overload - definitely suffering from it here.

I bought into a program this last week, well two actually (Jonny Andrews) and I have to say I really, really like the way he says it like it is, and the help and advice he gives, but, there is just so much of it. I think I am beginning to understand the process and then read something else which completely throws me.

I am list-less (and listless), website-less, squeeze-less..... and on it goes. I have only ever "played around" with the likes of Facebook, Twitter etc. and am suffering very much from frustration with my own inabilities to grasp anything other than I need to build lists.

I intend to start life out here in cyberspace as an affiliate - full stop. Now what? I've read info saying you should only choose a program/product you are familiar with and other info saying you can basically choose anything you want to become involved in - there is plenty of stuff I am interested in but does that make me qualified to create a squeeze page promoting something I possibly don't have any first-hand experience of? Do I buy a domain name and create a website (I have a bit of experience of doing this) or do I do it via a blog - arghhhh?

I have very little cash to throw at any more things other than the real essentials such as an autoresponder (oh God, and there's another thing I just cannot get my head around - what on earth do you say in all these autoresponder messages).

As you can see - and I apologise for the lengthy whinge - I don't think I have a bl**dy clue as to what I am supposed to be doing, but I will be damned if it is going to beat me I have every intention of making a success of this but I just seemed to have reached a crossroads with no signs to point me in the right direction. I intend to have all my credit cards paid off much sooner than it will take at the present rate, and to buy some form of transport - even a pushbike sounds a luxury at the moment

Am I a lost cause?

Sue

Hi Karen,
Sorry to keep using these but there is a plethora of info that Chris Farrell has about creating, uploading, downloading ETC. on you tube.
This one will explain (hopefully) what you are looking for.
Uploading and e-bookUntil next time...

Hi Sue,

The 'thanks' button doesn't appear under YOUR posts - it appears under all the other posts. You just select the post of the person you wish to thank and click on the 'thanks' button under their post.

Have a good and productive day.

Regards

Karen

Hey there Sue, you are more than welcome my friend! OMG I can so totally relate to the "first coffee" thing, lol. My son used to stay away from me for the first hour of each morning, and he would warn his mates too when they stayed over, rofl! Man I loved those days.......

Take that well earned breather and decide how you are going to bring the internet to its knees

Hi Karen, all great questions and ones that I battled with for a long time. You know whats amazing..... is that if you ask 100 "self proclaimed gurus" that question, you will get 100 different answers! Then if you put all the answers together you may learn how to send an email :rolleyes:

Anyway in regard to your query...... There are a couple of ways this can be done. If you are using an AR (Auto Responder) system, you can add a link to one of your follow up messages, or attach the file. If you add a link, the file you are offering will need to be hosted on your server or another hosting server online.

I have just redone my Scmwatcher site today, as I am lowering the price and getting ready to start the next version of the book. If you take a look at www.scamwatcher.info you will see that I offer a FREE sample of the product, via the pop up capture box. This is designed and provided through Aweber, so what happens is when a person fills in their details in that form, my Auto Responder will collect the data and send out an "opt in" email. The subscriber then confirms that subscription, and the autoresponder is programmed to then automatically send message 2, which is the Thankyou email, containing an attachment of the sample pdf ebook.

With the book itself, I have it hosted on my server in a protected directory. When a person pays for the book via paypal or clickbank, the payment system automatically returns the buyer to my thankyou page, where they see the "Download" button. This download button is nothing more than a graphic, and I have added a link to it, so that when it is clicked, it calls up the ebook from the server. The buyer then has the option to do whatever they want with the book, save it, print it, etc.

Karen this may sound complicated, but it isnt really. I will leave it at that for now, but be sure to shoot other questions through if you need to.


Hey Sue,

Check out the reply to Karen above for details on your free books, etc. There are other options, but I didnt want to put too much information in there in one hit

Hi again Sue,

I see you've found the 'Thanks' button now! LOL.

I'm an Honours Degree Graduate at 'question asking' now. LOL

Regards

Karen

Hi Hassan,

I, too, am very grateful to everyone on this thread who have answered my very basic questions in a very professional manner - no patronising or smart mouth comments - just excellent very helpful answers!

I like the idea of being a 'Novice' rather than a Newbie. Sound much better but the tag won't apply to me soon... LOL

Good Luck with your Membership Site may it go from strength to strength!

Regards

Karen

Hi Sue,

Doing Something is always a step in the right direction. At least you've made a start.

I'm sure one of our seasoned Warriors will be able to advise you a simple way to attract the (sometimes elusive) traffic.

Lots of luck - and don't give up!

Karen

Welcome Justin,

Stick with it and don't give up.
Sounds like you are off and running.
Congrats! Doing something is much better
than sitting around waiting for it to happen.
(cause it never will)
There is a great deal of info going to be coming
your way on this thread..I can promise you that!
This is where the "rubber meets the road" so-to-speak
and with all of the motivation here, it's not going to stop...
The momentum just keeps on goin!~

Later.

Hi Spacemonkee, and welcome to our little corner of the world I hope the thread did not give you any info overload, and didnt distract you from anything important

Thanks buddy, I appreciate it! Dave had an idea for a thread and now that thread has grown to 5 pages, and still we are atrracting new people (novices, lol) to the conversation. It is cool!! I can relate first hand to the "ideas syndrome" - I still suffer from it every day. In fact watch this space, because I am sick and tired of harbouring them. I am about to set up the "Think Tank" and everyone is invited

In fact I have been slack about communicating The Lounge, and I deserve a big smack on the ...... (wrist) for that! I have been very busy promoting a young musician from my home land, and have just completed the finishing touches on his 35th website/page, phew! Now I have some time to devote to my other business, this business. The chat room is an interesting idea, although from previous experience, there is usually issues with global time lines. However this can be overcome, and I would be happy to look at it as a means of effective communication. I will talk about this with Dave, and a couple of others.

Nice to meet u2 Justin, and again, Welcome!

Hey Sue,

I know it can be frustrating at first but hang in there.

What exactly is it you need help on...what part of the lens?
I have created a few lenses so maybe I can be of service.
Most of what I have done is write, copy and paste... but there has
been some html as I recall.

Here is one of the lenses I created.
After reviewing it the only thing I see in it is
like a
Is this what you are looking to do? This will provide the word
"Here" with the link to my website.




Let us know.



Later..

Sue,
Here's some stuff I got a while back...
see if this works for you...

How To Make A URL/Website Address "Linkable":

This:
<a href="http://EzineArticles.com/">http://EzineArticles.com/</a> will create this: EzineArticles Submission - Submit Your Best Quality Original Articles For Massive Exposure, Ezine Publishers Get 25 Free Article Reprints

Just substitute your website address from the above code and now you know how to "link" up a website address. Some like to create anchor text links. *** () Here is the code to create links out of keywords:
<a href="http://EzineArticles.com/">Ezine Articles</a> will create this: Ezine Articles

One Note: Use anchor text links *sparingly* when submitting articles to directories as some have limitations on the number of times the same URL can be linked up. For example, with EzineArticles.com, you are only allowed to have one URL in a given article that is the same and your article could be rejected if you have two links to the same URL regardless as to whether you linked it up like the first and/or second example above.
How To Make Your Email Address "Linkable":

This:
<a href="mailto:youraddress@your-domain-name.tld">youraddress@your-domain-name.tld</a> will create this: youraddress@your-domain-name.tld

One Note: It is never a good idea to put your email address in your article because your email address will get harvested by spammers who use web email extractor bots to scour the Internet. Better to put a link to your contact information if you must.

Here is some Basic HTML.

How To Make Something BOLD:

This:
<b>Make my words bold</b> will create this: Make my words bold
How To Make Something ITALICS:

This:
<i>Make my words italics</i> will create this: Make my words italics
How To Make Something UNDERLINED:

This:
<u>Make my words underlined</u> will create this: Make my words underlined
How To Make A Bullet Point List:

This:
<ul><li>First bullet</li><li>Second bullet</li><li>Third bullet</li></ul> will create this:

• First bullet
• Second bullet
• Third bullet

How To Make A Numbered List:

This:
<ol><li>First point</li><li>Second point</li><li>Third point</li></ol> will create this:

1. First point
2. Second point
3. Third point

Yes, you will need to have some basic knowledge....but...
in the words of me..."Failure is NOT an option"


Until Later

Hi Sue,

If you look in my signature box, you will find a link to a free eBook that will take you step by step through the whole process of building your first website. It's a really good and basic guide.

Mike.

Welcome Mark

Welcome to the thread Mark. I remember when I found this thread, I sat here and read the entire thread that night and then started posting on it. It's still my favorite out of all of them. Stick around and ask questions and we'll all bounce ideas around.

Marc, I think you're fine selling a product like that as long as you don't make outrageous claims that aren't true. We've all heard the saying before "fake it til you make it." Good luck!!!
Justin

NO I have to add more cos the system tells me that the word "no" is too short a message, LOL. Although I agree with the concept of "fake it till you make it", I more strongly believe in "integrity" and "transparency" - In fact I often base my buying decisions on my judgement as to whether the seller has used the product and succeeded with it.

Welcome, and it is never too late to start! I didnt have a list for a year either, and I would think a lot of other people are the same.

Hey everyone,
I was talking to another newbie today, and we were interested in setting up a chatroom that we'll have running as much as we can and refreshing the link here when we need to. It might be some effort to get set up and before I go through figuring it all out, I wanted to see if there are some people out there who would be interested in having that resource available. Free of charge of course, just for us newbies!
Justin

Fantastic Dave, there will be a lot of people here who would be able to benefit from such a tool!

@Null-11 - Nice to see another newbie amongst us. Although you seem much less of a newbie than myself! Welcome to the thread!

Welcome Colin, happy to see you here! Sounds like you have a great head start, and your input in the thread will be fantastic.

That was my thinking too. It is too easy to be distracted by people around you who just don't understand the potential that we have if we can focus on what we truly want to achieve. By that I mean most people in our lives - not this forum

lol My names Mark. I assume you got Colin from Twitter, he's my Dad/business partner. Close though. Must be a good name.

Welcome all New "Novice" Warriors,

I can honestly say that now I feel momentum being built inside this thread! Great ideas floating around in here since my last post.
Just wanted to pop in and say Keep 'um coming. Everyone of us can work together on issues that come up...all we need to do is ask...right?

Be back later everyone...

Hahaha, hmmmm, well okay - I am fine! thanks for asking :p I hope you are doing okay 2

I see you are building up the "suspense" Justin, that is cool, LOL. I went and took a look at YT and subscribed. You will see my username there when you check it out Good luck for Monday!

Another helpful tip for people wanting to use FF Mark. Cool! Personally I dont like the way FF displays some pages, but I guess I am a creature of habit, and IE is my preferred browser. That is not to say that I can't be convinced to change, LOL. Maybe I will take a closer look at this from a speed and flexibility angle. Thanks

Well done on your success thus far. I know with an attitude as positive and driven as the one you have, you will succeed without a shadow of a doubt. Congratz!

Hey Dave,

Fantastic success story! I love to hear about success!
The more motivation, the better I say, and Dave and Bryce, you guys are surely the motivators.

The determination to never give up is what separates us from the 95% that give up after a short period.

My Quote:

has been with me for a long time now and I don't intend to FAIL!

Great job man and keep it up!

The same sort of cencept is sometimes called a "Giveaway". In fact I just got wind of one coming up, but you are right. There is always a clever way of packaging any number of things, for everyones (including the recipient) benefit. There will be a similar idea on the forum soon! - Well done

You are welcome - hang around there is plenty more coming

Sorry mate. Missed ya by about an hour. Went to be at 4am.

It all depends on how you go about getting yourself noticed. You need to be noticed through possitivity and not for being a spammer. Try contributing to a conversation rather than purely for your own gain by advertising your product or affiliate product. You posted the same post 3 times in this 1 forum. That to me shows a little desperation rather than someone who believes in his endevour. Just my 2 cents.

you're welcome my friend! its probably just a sizing thing, but its not that difficult to fix these types of things All cosmetic, lol.

I must say you have nothing to be nervous about. Your English is better than mine! And I'm English!
Welcome to the Novice Thread!

Hi there and welcome

I dont know about this "Limited English" thing, I have seen worse from professors, hahaha. Good to see you in the new forum too my friend, I will be heading over there very soon to do some housework :p

Dont be nervous, we all started sometime and at the same place as you, so sit back, relax, take a load off, and enjoy the journey!

Thanks for the warm welcome ejmjs and Justin, and thanks for the encouragement. I am from Indonesia and now staying in Sydney. Maybe you find not many Indonesians following and posting to this thread, as we're running behind in terms of IM and online income stuff.

I will definitely stay around on this thread, I need to learn more and more on what you guys do to build a successful online business.

Justin, unfortunately I can't join chatroom, maybe my office block such an access to 3rd party chat .. I will try it again later in the evening after work (it's 1.17 PM now in Sydney). Look forward to join you guys!

Hey Justin, cool about you guys getting more aquainted in the chat room! I have been there a couple of times, and nobody was home :confused:, hehehe - but hey the day is young! I know I will make it there when others are there, one day soon.

You are doing a great job encouraging people and motivating the troops, I applaud you for that. I agree there are a lot more people watching this thread than those that post, you just need to look at the numbers I think we are heading to almost 4000 views now, and considering how long it has been up, well that isnt too bad is it?! This "loitering" (as I like to term it) is what fueled the idea for Novice Nation.

So yes I agree, If there are people that are reading this thread, who are genuinely in need of support and assistance, dont be afraid to leap in, introduce yourself, and get involved. Justin is right, these types of things don't come around every day!

Hi Justin,

Great news my friend, and another inspiring message to all! I will be heading over to YT now, to check out this video, and will leave a comment there.

Well done, I can almost feel the adrenalin pumping

Right on Brad & Justin!

Cool video and I just love the positive attitude! Yeah... My Motto sticks out in that one... (LOL) "Failure is NOT An Option"

To critique a bit if I may:
Audio... try to get the levels around the same. Do you guys have a mixer of any kind?
There are some free trial audio mixers for MP3/WAV but not sure about how it all work on YT. Haven't got to this point but am not far behind in promoting my project.

Justin, I will be in touch with you in the near future and utilize "La Machine" in building ideas. It all helps here and on the Novice program.

That's what it's all about ...helping each of us to success....once again...I see the motivation flowing! Congrats Guys on your video and your Declaration! Never Give Up!

Until Later.

Hello Keith and welcome to the thread!

Sorry about your offline business mate, I know the recession is hurting a lot of people in a lot of countries, and we are all on shaky ground I think. Ahhhh but not here, well at least as long as we have access to power

Your experience sounds great, having been in sales most of my life in one capacity or another, it is a skill set than crosses many boundaries to provide some level of security. I am sure we can all benefit from whatever you decide to contribute.

Welcom to NN as well, I have signed you in over there so you are good to go whenever you feel like it.

Welcome buddy! Glad to see our power house growing.

Hey, gang ~ I just wanted to share some good news:

Google updated their servers today, and my Amazon store got a Page Rank bump from 0 to 2 overnight! Considering that I purchased the domain name 6 1/2 weeks ago, and the e-commerce site didn't even get indexed until May 22nd, I'm pretty stoked!

Now I know, PR has no direct correlation to SERP's or how much targeted traffic I get... but it does show the rest of the world how "authoritative" Google deems your site to be. Page Rank helps build your brand. So, if I can go from unknown to PR2 in 33 days, just wait til I've had 3 or 6 months to promote!

This IM business can be a lonely exercise sometimes. I'll confess, after creating 60+ pages of rich multimedia content for my website, and toiling away for HUNDREDS OF HOURS on html, css, and php, and then it seemed like the first few visitors just didn't get what I was offering, well, I got frustrated and a little burned-out.

This small recognition from Google was just the lift I needed. In fact, I'm so jazzed, I think I'll do some more midnight backlinking :p

If you're curious, here's my Flash-happy PR2 super-site in the making (lol)

Justin,
Sent you a PM on a product a friend of
mine just sent me.
Maybe you could incorporate in your niche..
Just a thought.
Later.

I was liking the site somewhat, until I happened to notice
Then directly across the page, there is a fees tab. So is the site FREE or are there fees? Might be something you need to clear up before you start marketing.

hahaha cool - I do! And I was in the process of completing my site at www.sites4sale.aceslegacy.com before starting on this thread I will check it out!!

Oh and btw Dave, sorry I missed you. Hope you have a cool holiday, and if you are near your PC during the break, let me know. Things got hectic here again with Ethans music. He has a show coming up in 2 days, then its back to normal.

B

Hey Dave,

I checked out the site yesterday, and I really like what I see!

The ability to have your own store is awesome. I really love the whole setup.

Working on the finishing touches of a site to list hopefully today.

Congratulations on such a good job. I think it's gonna go great!

Thanks for the welcome, EJMJS. I have a lot of reading and learning to do. I appreciate the fact that people seem so willing to help out.

Hey Sue! Pull out another mug and I'll have one with you (a coffee that is ) That is FANTASTIC news about the link for the travel agansy! You are on your way to big things. 20pound is 20pound, and it all mounts up. Build up your testimonials too, when they have been linking for a while, and maybe even see if they will offer a 2% or 5% discount to any customers that come from your site. Keep track of records and traffic that you send them, and this is all good for any future business. Well done Sue, congrats!

Wow, Great stuff Sue,

Just think of the possibilities now - this month £20 - this time next year Who knows... we could all be coming to you for advice.
Brilliant News. Well done!

Karen

Hi Sue,

Let me add a thought and a couple of quotes on fear if I might.
Everyone goes through it and it's the fear of the unknown is what really has us bugged...will we be successful at what we do? These types of thoughts always plague us...but. set your mind at ease, here is something to ponder on fear and failure:

"If you don't try, you won't know"
"If you think you failed, you didn't because you succeeded at learning"

"You always pass failure on the way to success"...Mickey Rooney

"Nothing in life is to be feared, it is only to be understood. Now is the time to understand more, so that we may fear less"....Marie Curie

Later

Good job, Sue. Love to read of successes. Also love your descriptive and colorful posts. It's almost 2 am here - don't want to go to bed as I'm still looking around.

Oh, and thanks Justin. It's nice to know people are pulling for you!

Hey everyone, cool that this thread keeps growing! Welcome to those new people and I apologize for not welcoming you individually, but I have been busy setting up the forum.

Dave your site is looking cool mate - cant wait to list there

Well the quiet may be due to the learning, or the fact that in this part of the world it is coming to the end of Saturday, and between housework, kids, music and MJ passing away, there is little time for anything else. It may also be that people have started to follow some very good advice in "taking a break" from it all when we need to and coming back again more rejuvinated, and fresh.

Either way, I am doing a bit of everything and am soon to be heading over to NN to tidy up there

Hello Roman, and welcome to the thread, and the forum! I have PMed you and look forward to seeing more of your posts

you could also join up at Novice Nation, to see if anyone will hop over to your forum and contribute. I will join up

Hi guys, Novice Nation is the new forum we set up as a result of this thread. It is a place where anyone (newbie, now known as novice) who is considered new, and who has posted on this thread, is welcome to join. It is a place where we share, and get into some "real" opportunities.

If you would like to check it out visit Novice Nation.

If you would like to join, please use the same username as you are using here. There are many forums on the board, some of which cant be seen until you register, but over time we intend to combine all resources we can, so that everyone there has an equal chance of success online. If you think this thread has been helpful, and would like to see more of that, maybe Novice Nation is a place you will enjoy.

you are right about SiteDeal - I will be there shortly to list some sites

What is the link in your siganture? It presents "beautiful women" or some other stuff. You should check out the rules for links in your signature, just to be safe

Hi ecubeachboy,

Welcome to the thread! Well I think you will find after reading the posts in this thread alone, most people start where you are at right now. The trick is to focus, and not get involved in too many things in the beginning. Information overload can hurt more than you know.

I am sure if you stick to cheking back here regularly you will be able to get the help you need. From this thread and the people who have contributed, we have established Novice Nation (refer to my post above) where you can join and particpate in many ways.

Again, welcome and I look forward to seeing you around as often as you feel you need to. We are all here to help each other

Hi, ecubeachboy.

You will find just about everything worth knowing within this great forum.

Evryone makes mistakes in at the start, my tip would be to work smart and not as others say, let yourself get hurt with Info Overload.

We often find ourselves at the foot of a mountain looking up! Read as much as you can and take the best bits, make notes they are always useful. There is a lot of free stuff available where, a lot of the hard work has been done for you.

You could consider what aspect of IM really interests you, people are not so keen to grab the credit card and spend these days. CJ is a good place though, a lot of the clients approve affiliates manually, this means you need to have a credible web site that should relate to the product in some way. Always try to make what you do relevant..i.e. Don't advertise car parts on a music site for example. Try neverblue.com for CPA Offers.

If your putting up a web site and unless your promoting with PPC then, ensure it has value and good content for your visitors, this way they will keep comming back and your bsuiness will be more sustainable in the longer term. Email capture is well worth while, you will build again long term relationships provided, your sending out useful information, gain the trust of your readers.

Above all, research, test research. Advertising on adwords can empty your wallet faster than anything be careful.

Good luck!

Welcome to the thread, glad you have enjoyed the people and information here haha I can understand your not wanting to add another information treasure chest to your list, but hey.... if you ever change your mind, you know where the community is

Hi Redmatrix, welcome to this here thread! I am not too sure what a "penny tray" is my friend, but I am happy that it made you smile Now all I have to do is find the time to concentrate on that site (my 2nd link) and I will be able to smile too

WOW Congratulations guys! I remember that feeling when I sold my first ebook!! It is a moment to be cherished, and I wish you all the best with the next series of sales. HEY! Isnt it the tradition that the "first sale people" shout everyone else a drink????

WELL DONE BRO!!! Very happy for ya mate! Nice one!

CONGRATS! Keep it up!

Justin - can you please tell me what a conversion is? Duh I know - but still learning. BTW - congrats on that.

Also, has anyone read Honest Riches by Holly Mann? I bought the Ebook in May and am just starting to read it now. What is the general feeling of the info she offers? Thanks for any replies.

Hi and welcome This is certainly a great thread with lots of great people, so I hope you get some enjoyment from particpating in it. Just yell out if you need anything!

Thanks Jon, and no - no clone I wish!

Hi newby31.

Welcome to this thread! I am not sure if you mean "join this thread" in which case you just did or whether you mean the Novice Nation community. If it is the latter, head over to Novice Nation, use the same username you have here, and register. Its that easy.

Maybe you could let us know what sort of thing you have been doing, or what you are wanting to do online, and the great people on this thread will help in whatever way they can.

Welcome, newby 31~

This thread is open and free for everyone who wants to contribute. If you're new to Internet Marketing, or just new to this forum, then you're in the right place.

Feel free to ask questions, and/or share your stories. And if you ever decide you've outgrown your UserName, please feel free to tell us your name! :p

This is a good bunch on this thread; I hope you'll find that it adds value to your online business experience.

Best wishes,

~ hasan

Happy "Humpday", folks! I'm hanging out right now in the Chat Room if anyone wants to stop by.

If you don't know what I'm talking about, take a look at my Sig.

I'll be online for the next hour... where will YOU be?

Hi Jerry,
Cool site, I like the simplicity and freshness of the theme, and it isnt too busy which is cool! (Busy meaning lots of flash bells and whistles) To try and anser your queries for now, first of all I dont a "blog" can have too many topics. Maybe a static site or a forum, but a blog is meant to be a place packed full og useful information, and I think you are achieving that. WP (Wordpress) is such a great platform to work with because of its flexibity and I think you have done well with it.

I am not sure what you are referring to when you say "Sales Page" but I am assuming for the purpose of this post that it is the page with "Overstock.com" listed as a supplier. I think this page is okay, except maybe I would tone down the bold company name everywhere in the article. Maybe have some banner ads of theirs, (I am again assuming that you are an affiliate) and place them strategically on other pages as well.

All in all I think this site is definately worth keeping, and with ongoing maintenance, additional content, etc - it could turn into something really cool. It deals with many issues that affect not only women, but men as well.

What exactly do you find you dont like about the site as it is?

Hope this helps a little

Hey, Justin ~

Sorry to hear about your conversion troubles. I have already stated elsewhere my personal reservations about ClickBank; a quick search of other threads on the WF will show that I'm far from alone. Tracking is a CHRONIC problem when dealing with them.

However, I am not a CB expert. That title probably belongs to Harvey Segal. He is a veteran of this forum; he also was on CB's Advisory Board, maybe he still is.

He has a forum specifically for CB affiliates, and a free guide called "ClickBank for Newbies". If you want a definitve answer, start with him. Do a Google search on his name and you'll find all the links.

If you're really in a jam, you could also try sending him a PM. He might respond, if you ask him really nicely. Just understand that CB is his BUSINESS; don't expect him to spoon feed you for free.

I hope you get everything worked out.

~ hasan

You are very welcome Christine, and nice to meet you

I can understand that you want to add some graphics and images, and that is cool. I am a fan of this also. If you need any help adding such things yell out.

Overall you have put together a very nice looking site with (as has been mentioned) lots of good material. Are you sending these artcles off to directories when you do them?

Thanks so much, Justin. I honestly didn't know that it meant you made a sale. I have to believe that is so exciting when one starts to see the fruit of their labors. I will look into the book you mentioned. Continued success to you .

Happy 4th to everyone. Our fireworks at the lakefront is tonight and we go every year.

Hi Justin

I've not had much net access, as I've been by the pool most of the time...I'm reading the same book. Some really good information in it.

I've been told not to read too many books though, find a philosophy that works and stick to it, or you will never move forward!

Cheers

Dave

This is a very good forum, and this thread has been helpful in guiding me towards some of the answers I was looking for, thanks for all the posts, hope many more are to come.

Ken

Hi Will, thanks for stopping by and at NN as well. Buying traffic is always dicey, in my own experience. It is probably a better idea to go organic, and maybe also hook up with someone prepared to JV with you. Do you have any list at all?

One of the easiest ways to build a list, besides the autoresponder, is through your social sites, Twitter, and face book, My Space, all are easy to get thousands of people to see your offer. Twitter is one sweet site to post your urls to, no limits, and lots of atoumatic poster apps out there for you to use. So build your main autoresponder list, and use the social sites to create interest in your offers, direct them to a squeeze or landing page you created, and then they will be on your main list as well. Im learning more about list building and different resources now, and this forum is one of the best places for more experienced guys like Hasan, and many others, to share with novices. Im gratefull for all the advice I have received here..Thanks all.

Hey Will. Welcome to the thread!

To answer your question, I'd have to say do NOT buy an existing list. You can buy traffic to build your list - such as using AdWords, Yahoo ads, etc. This is a great way to get targeted traffic. You can also get JV partners to send you traffic but if you don't already have a list it will be hard to get JV partners.

Buying a list is a dangerous way to go even if it's double opt-in. This can lead to you - the email sender - being accused of spamming and there have even been quite a few cases where a lawsuit followed. Regardless of whether you are willing to take the risk, buying a list simply is not effective. Go with buying ads on Google AdWords, Yahoo Search, and Bing. The leads you get from here are very targeted because you can choose who sees your ad - by choosing specific keywords - and your leads are looking for a solution to thier problem and they chose YOU when they clicked your ad. They're basically waiting for you to sell them that "solution."

Hope you find this helpful. And sorry if I typed too much and didn't explain enough. If I didn't make things clear please let me know I'd I'll be glad to explain some more.

~ Colin

Sounds like you have a fairly good understanding of what needs to be done my friend. As far as the ebook goes, I think I would be going for a unique niche as opposed to something that is already out there. If you have something in the way of knowledge and you enjoy the subject, your passion will shine through and people will relate to this. This has been my experience anyway.

The website, well there are many platforms out there that allow you to build a fully functional site with a few cliscks, but most tend to be restrictive in some areas, and some have their branding on every page, etc. Not that the latter is a major problem, it is just that for some reason these types of sites lose credibility with a lot of people online.

For the price you will pay (unless it is free or very cheap) you might be able to get someone on this thread to build you a site.

Hi Karen,
I use wordpress a lot and have found out by trial and error what works best.

I will try and explain a few basics for you:

To install a new theme log into your wordpress admin panel - this usually can be found at http://www.yourwebsite.com/wp-admin.

Look on the left hand side and you will see a link for Appearance - click on this.
Within this is another link - Themes and Add New Themes - click on this.

You can now search for a theme either by keyword, author or tag. If you just want a nice looking theme for now look at the links at the top of the page:

Search | Upload | Featured | Newest | Recently Updated

Try clicking on Featured - I then selected Arclite for a test

Click on Install
A new window opens up so click on Install now.

You now can either Preview | Activate | Return to Theme Installer

Click on Activate

Look at your blog page now and you will see the new theme.

To change the options or look and feel go back to the Appearance tab and mess around with the Theme options.

If this isn't clear or you need any further help just PM me.

Cheers
Keith

Hi Justin,

I'll check that out and see if it'll do my stuff. I don't want an all bells and whistles website, just something that looks good and somewhere to sell my stuff.

Wordpress is giving me nightmares at the moment - but I really think it's the technical stuff that makes me want to jump off a cliff!

I look at people selling ready made sites and think I'll give that a go but then I realise that there is still technical stuff involved and I back quickly away!

Thanks

Karen:confused:

Hi, and thanks for stopping by the thread! The topic has sort of evolved into a "safe haven" for "novices" and the interesting thing is I guess, it has evolved naturally. The thread has basically become a Q&A section for people who dont want to be inundated with offers from so called "gurus" and opportunities to spend lots of money.

We have set up Novice Nation as a more intimate arena for serious novices to take on some projects, and the sensitive information has been handled over there, for some added security.

I have sent you a PM

Hi Karen,

I remember when I first looked at WP and it was confusing to me as well. However as Keith says it is a very simple platform to work with, with probably the most flexibility, when you consider all the themes and plugins available to use with it.

Keith has given some really great information there for using the theme system, and I will add some more specific information, as well as some plugins that will help, over on Novice Nation. As an example there are literally thousands of themes available for WP, and most of the great ones, are not available via the WP main site. I have hundreds on my PC, and I will show you how to get these.

There are plugins available like the "1 click install" that will allow you to save theme files (I wlll give you some links to get these) to your hard drive, and then from the back end of your WP site, you simply browse for them on your computer, and install them with the click of a button. The same plugin will allow you to install other plugins in the same way.

If you can dedicate some quality time to learning the back end of WP, I am sure you will be running like a pro in no time at all.

Welcome to the thread zigstonk! I am sure there will be plenty more to see here as we head towards 10 pages

Sounds interesting, and of course anything of benefit to novices is great! The thread has been a big help to a number of people now, and it will continue to be I guess. What type of ideas do you have in mind, or if you would rather discuss the specifics of an idea - off forum, you are welcome to pop over to NN and join up there.

The community you suggested above seems to be somehwere that is simply selling their product - or maybe I was just put off by the landing page?

I'm also looking for a forum/comunity to join where I can put a link to my site (as in sig file on here).

But this is the place that I'll always come to for help!

Bryce et al,

Whuhoo - I'VE DONE IT! My next project is learning simple html:confused:

Can you please give me your opinion on my very first website? I know it's not fantastic but I put it up anyway to have a platform to market my services.

Any comments would be gratefully received (I'm thick skinned - so go for the jugular!)

Regards

Karen

good thread..interesting..full of step..strategies and opinion and idea..this threads really meaningful to me as a newbies who in 'step-by-step' in this online world..thanks guys..i really mean it!

Hi all -

I have just been on this forum since June and have learned a lot. I think I am starting to see the light at then end of the tunnel as to which way I want to go. I have absolutely no IM experience but am a great learner and a hard worker. I appreciate everyone's kindness!!

Karen - your site looks wonderful to me. If one were to purchase articles from you, would they be used for blogs, and/or can they be submitted to ezine articles. I have not read ezine's conditions or terms yet so I generally am in the dark about this. I am under the impression that articles have to be original (meaning from me) and not another source.

Bryce - will probably join NN at sometime, but right now I would feel like a taker and not a giver. I have nothing to offer and feel bad just being a sponge. My hope is that I can help others at some point in my life. Thanks for all your encouragement!

Hi Karen-

Thanks for your encouraging words. I am finding much help here and people seem to be generous with their time and help.

When I say I am new to this-I mean I just starting looking into the possibilities on June 23 when I luckily found this forum and signed up. I am somewhat timid in posting and asking for help because I don't know what all the abbreviations mean (what is an PLR :p).

Congrats on starting another website. It's kind of funny you mentioned Chris Farrell. He is one of the people I am currently listening to. I may sign up for his membership. I am going to do what you and many others suggest by starting one project because I can easily see where people jump into too many things and get overwhelmed. There are two others that I am going to purchase and learn from. Otherwise the only ebook I purchased back in May was Honest Riches by Holly Mann. Have you ever heard of her? I purchased it when I was told I was getting laid off and thought about earning an income at home. Now that I am laid off, I am just trying to figure out my next step.

Thanks for your input and help and I am sure I will be in touch with you again .

ejmjs - thanks also for your words of encourgement. It is much appreciated!!

Hi

I have registered in your forum and although I can login I cannot access the forum threads. Do I need a separate password for this?

Regards
Mark

Thanks Cary,

I am on your mailing list. And I check out your links regularly. Always something to learn, so again, thanks.

Ken