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Unread 8th June 2009, 06:46 PM   #1
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Hello,

I am getting ready to launch a hot new fitness product and I am currently looking for a JV broker to bring in super affiliates.

Where can I find good JV brokers? Who are some amazing JV Brokers that you guys would recommend?

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well, there are couple I know, Willie Crawford is one of the trusted around the net,
but he is looking to offer where prices are $197. The other one I know is reed floren
but not sure about his requirement.
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I'm a super affiliate with a weightloss launch scheduled for next Thursday June 18th. If you're interested, I may be able to reciprocate for your launch.

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Zoobie I did talk with Willie Crawford and he wanted to be the JV broker for my new fitness product but the guy wanted me to pay him $2000 fee upfront on top of the commission he would be getting, which I thought was very wired and suspicious since all the other JV brokers I spoke with get paid strictly based on performance. He told me the $2000 was to cover his overhead costs which I thought was kind of funny and odd at the same time, because that's like if I was trying to sell my house and the real-estate agent wanted me to pay him an upfront fee on top of the commission to cover the overhead and advertising costs of selling my house.

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Zoobie I did talk with Willie Crawford and he wanted to be the JV broker for my new fitness product but the guy wanted me to pay him $2000 fee upfront on top of the commission he would be getting, which I thought was very wired and suspicious since all the other JV brokers I spoke with get paid strictly based on performance. He told me the $2000 was to cover his overhead costs which I thought was kind of funny and odd at the same time, because that's like if I was trying to sell my house and the real-estate agent wanted me to pay him an upfront fee on top of the commission to cover the overhead and advertising costs of selling my house.
There's a big difference between your real-estate agent and your JV broker. Your real-estate agent can only sell your house once

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Try to contact Sean Mc Alister.
He may even connect you with Brian McElroy
and other magicians.

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Quite honestly if you could of gotten Willie for only 2k upfront you should of really considered it.

I have done some JV Brokering in the real estate investing niche and when it comes to a launch, there can be considerable amount of time investment for the JV Broker depending on how they bring people in.

If they stay involved during the launch to help you manage it, that is even more work.

Now if you just talking about having someone bring in some affiliates outside of a launch, that is a little bit different. I can see balking at an upfront fee especially if they are not helping you manage the affiliate program.

Personal relationships and contacts are especially important in a launch. Not everyone has them.

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I would jump at the chance of paying $2000 a month to have willie crawford, Yanik Silver , Russell Brunson or any of the top guns be involved in a product launch that I am doing.

I would rather have this than pay for many of the courses they sell, these guys influence in the market place is immense

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I'm working on a launch right now and would be interested in pushing the infamous HP list out to some people for reciprocal...My launch is taking place this week...it's a Tom Bell offer and Shawn Casey's HP list would be available for reciprocal if we can get 100 units out of you...let me know!

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Hi Travis,

I'd defeinitely be interested in the offer and can move some units. Let me know a little bit more about it.

I'd also be interested in talking to you about getting some of my offers in your network.

Email me at coffeyucf @ gmail dot com

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Hi!

It's NOT unusual to ask a fee upfront, especially for a niche like fitness where theoretically the amount of money from a new launch is very high. If Willie is interested I guess that your product is at least $97/unit and also have some upsells, etc.

Like other people said previously, it's great to have some guys like Willie by your side at the moment of launch. Just be sure you setup things the right way and you both speak the same language.

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PS: of course, you don't need only ONE JV broker, know what I mean??!

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bogumil

i would have to agree with the other guys to have someone who can give you some serious online 'weight' and fill your 'coffers' is certainly worth their weight in gold!

i am in the position of not being in the IM niche but the eccommerce niche with my golfball business which i am currently trying to get JVs and affiliates for and finding it difficult as hell. mainly because JVs with huge lists are either not suitable or are USA only and i need UK/European customers.

So count yourself fortunate that you have had someone like willie offer his services as well as other JV brokers offer there help etc
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Hi guys,

So when you pick a JVBroker, you can only pick one? Or can you pick a couple? if can pick two, then how would their commession be calculated?
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When getting a JV broker on board I would suggest you start off with one, otherwise if you have more they may cross paths so to speak.

See how it goes with the first broker and get feedback from them on the kind of results they expect to get and the time frame for achieving them.

If you can get a "big guru" to act as your JV broker, then you probably have a good product and with their help you should have a good success.

Paying money upfront is a difficult decision. Some instances it`s worth doing but make sure you "interview" your broker and what they can offer. Do some background checks aswell to make sure they are as good as they say.

I believe Willie Crawford is a guy who does what he says....just make sure they say the right things

I`m currently looking for a JV broker for my membership site Make Money Online Classroom

I will do some research and gather a list of potential brokers, then interview them to see who offers the best "value".

If I manage to find a good guy, I will post some feedback here...
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I often times believe that a lot of people have the wrong notion of JV brokers. We are not the affiliates that you are wanting. We are the ones who put you in contact with the lists, the contacts and helping you manage a successful campaign.

Paying upfront is normal, as you are asking for their time and our resources. One thing I have noticed is that most people who are serious about their business and launches don't balk at the JV broker's fees. There can be debates like you would never believe but do your research and go from there.

Good Luck! By the Willie is pretty freaking cool.

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I'm a Certified JV Broker by Willie Crawford and Sohail Khan. PM me.

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David your link is not working .FYI
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Ron I have a great weight loss Products available . Potential affiliates will get support upto $ 2000 initially. If you wish please PM me .

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I'm a super affiliate with a weightloss launch scheduled for next Thursday June 18th. If you're interested, I may be able to reciprocate for your launch.
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I'm very interested in your offer, just sent you a PM!
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Ron, if you're interested in our weight loss niche offer we would love to discuss an affiliate/JV relationship with you. Please check out Mindset for Weight Loss "The #1 Best Selling Program of it's kind on the Internet!" and then email me at trace [at] personalsuccess-strategies.com if you'd like to discuss.
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Hello I need your help if you could also help me . Please could you PM me kindly.
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Hey Warriors,
Wanted to say i have Pm'ed a few of you.
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I'm a super affiliate with a weightloss launch scheduled for next Thursday June 18th. If you're interested, I may be able to reciprocate for your launch.
hey i have Pm'd you!
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I'm currently looking for a couple clients that need a JV Broker for their product launch. The first step is to review your product to see if it's something people want and are actively searching for. The fee schedule for my services are:

Product Review non-refundable $197 - My team will take your product into a full review and testing phase, this takes approximately 3 to 5 days, and delivers a 6 to 10 page repot on our findings. This must happen first.

Upon the results is when I will decide to take you on as a client or not.

Upon accepting I will send a contract to you to review and sign.

Then I request a $1500 retainer.

The next step is to have my team develope a extensive Launch Plan and Timeline for your launch. The price for this is a non-refundable one time payment of $997.

I'm responsible for bringing on the affiliates.

Any outsourcing of services related to the launch are the clients responsibility, and we have a number of service providers you can choose from.

Finally, I require 10% of the gross sales before affiliate commissions as my fee for being a broker.

Interested parties should contact my via a PM.

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Hi,

Just my 2 cents - I highly recommend checking out your JV Broker first from references and others experiences with them if they are not well known (and in fact - even if they are) for their value added and past successes.

Even asking them for the references can't hurt.

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Interesting discussion...

On the topic of having more than 1 JV broker, I never want to
slow down my clients sales, but I typically don't take on
clients who use multiple JV brokers. In fact, my clients often
pay me commission on sales of follow-on products that JV
partners that I introduce them to sell later. They are
typically that big picture.

I don't see the logic in competing with a lot of other JV
brokers in a niche where we may know a lot of the same
people. It's counter-productive and is actually part of what
drove to the development of contracts on Clickbank, where
Clickbank handles all of the tracking and paying of product
owner, affiliates, JV brokers, and any other partners.

I helped beta test that system at Clickbank.

As David Canham pointed out, a good JV broker starts by
making sure that we're dealing with a product that the
market wants, that the launch plan is completely flowed out,
and that all of the infrastructure is properly in place.

David is one of several brokers who endured 40 hours of
classroom instruction on JV brokering with Sohail Kahn and
myself, and that I continue to work with. Our approaches
are slightly different but David does know how to track down
and bring great affiliates onboard.

Part of what makes me effective as a JV broker is the trust
that I have built up with many super-affiliates and large
list owners.

These people let me know what kinds of product their lists
buy, and ask me not to bring them anything else, and they
trust me not to bring them garbage. They use me as a filter
since they don't have the time to sift through all of the
available, logical options themselves.

I actually spend a lot of time getting to know product
owners and potential super affiliates. I don't take on
projects without proper lead time for that reason. I sort
of stack the deck because I can.

For example, next month, I'll be on a 5-day cruise between
Tampa and Cozumel, where my main purpose for being on the
cruise IS to netwwork with large list owners... many of them
multimillionaires,and some of them with lists in the millions.

They know and trust me because I honestly put their best
interest first! I don't ask them to promote crap, and I
help them to line up JV partners to sell a lot of their
products. I also tell them if I think that their products
are crap :-)

In January, I'll be on the Marketers Cruise for 8 days. I'll
be networking, taking photos and videos with, and getting
to know several hundred internet marketers who are potential
joint venture partners/affiliates.

On the Marketers Cruise, we often stay up until the wee
hours of the morning, in what we call our "Pizza and
Profits" sessions. We sit around brainstorming and
getting to know each other perched outside the ships pizza
parlor which is often the best place to get food in the
middle of the night.

My personal clients do mostly sell bigger-ticket items
simply because they are just as easy to sell when offered
to the right customers in the right way, and it pays better.

Many of my clients know more about and are spending big
money on infomercials and/or direct mail. They understand
those mediums better, and turn to me because I understand
internet marketing (and mobile marketing) better.

They don't mind paying for my expertise and consulting
because they are accustomed to paying for notworthy
results.

Launching a product IS harder than you probably think
if you are shooting for a high 6-figure, 7-figure or
even 8-figure launch. The hardest part is building
the momentum... assuming you have all of the other pieces
in place.

A good JV broker allows you to duplicate yourself, and
keep you from making mistakes.

Most people launching a product here on the forum probably
aren't ready for a JV broker. Some may need an affiliate
manager instead... or just a VA.

Just a few thoughts

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If Willie can bring you just one super-affiliate, it is all paid for.

I totally agree with Willie that launching a product and getting affiliates (esp. super affiliates) on board is not that easy. I experienced that myself with my own WSO launch. It is not fun at all.

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It was inspiring reading Willie Crawford's response. It reminded me that so much is possible. Having him on your side sounds amazing!
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If option A is $2000 up front and option B is to be told no thanks not interested, is option A really all that bad. Could it in fact even be an extremely great option?

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Excellent , willie is an expert in his field
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Hello All! I want to know if you could give a little advice to an aspiring marketer. I am 17 years old and still in high school with no experience doing joint venture deals. I have read many ebooks and a vast amount of information regarding business marketing and joint ventures. My question is, in your experience, what credentials or knowledge would a JV Broker need to have? Your reply would change my life!

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Actually, I need to close it.

Thanks.
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JV brokers come in all sizes like everything else in life. There are big and reputable names in the jv circles like Willie Crawford and the like who will get your product to super affiliates because of their connection and recognition in the industry. Of course their terms measure to their reputation.

There are other good jv brokers also, who are not yet big names in the market. They can also offer you good service and put your product into the market however it may not be in the large scale of the super jv brokers.

There are also startups who are learning or have been tutored by the big jv names. They also can get your product to list owners though not also in a big scale or to the super affiliates.

It is up to you as a product owner to know what your needs are. As the saying goes "cut your cloth according to your size". That way you will be more profitable. My advice is that if you cannot afford the upfront payment you are not ready for the big jv brokers and you should consider the others who may not charge an upfront fee.

My two cents.

If you want to get to good jv brokers who can also work with their mentors to meet your needs get in touch (PM).
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If Willie can bring you just one super-affiliate, it is all paid for.

I totally agree with Willie that launching a product and getting affiliates (esp. super affiliates) on board is not that easy. I experienced that myself with my own WSO launch. It is not fun at all.

Ken Sar

Actually, getting lots of affiliates to say yes is fairly easy.

Getting them to actually follow through on their promises,
which they sometimes view as "soft yeses" is a different
matter.

That's where follow-up and properly applied pressure comes
into play, and where experience may be the most useful.

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To be honest this is the first time I have ever read anything related to a JV Broker, seems an interesting idea and one that could without doubt be beneficial to someone launching some kind of e-product.

I have never looked for Super Affiliates (Although I suspect I should sometimes) but I do have around 600 websites, some with millions of pages, so with a little interlinking and playing about I can soon secure top spot on Google for pretty much anything I need.

Another area I know I am going wrong is I DO NOT capture peoples emails, names so I don't have any kind of list. Across all my sites I must amass 4000 email and names per day but I just delete once they have been dealt with.

After reading this post and it's answers I think I will be taking a step back from my own.

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I am not in the Internet marketing world but getting a JVBroker sounds logical.

I am a International Business Negotiations expert and deal with networks of people in many different countries. It is a different world but with all the same factors, requirements and needs. In both worlds you are only as good as your connections, partners and friends.

Affiliates are used in all aspects of business and all over the world. Affiliates are specialized in what they look for and WHO they have on their list, what they are looking for and what these peoples budgets are. It is imperative to define your products target group and focus on them and them alone. This is what I see as the biggest mistake in internet marketing. I am not preaching here I am stating a fact that honest people who have "been there" will agree with.

Defining your target group, defining their needs/wants and desires, focusing on them and the three factors mentioned and building a scalable marketing concept to reach these people based on their habits in the internet and their very predictable behavior will have a profound impact on your outcome as a successful or not so successful business person.

I have only been here for a few months, but I see so many people whos first priority is to "make money". Is that a goal, an achievement or just a dream? Most successful people do what they love, live and breath. The money comes to them because they are dedicated and passionate. People want to learn from them because they can feel the energy and emotion projecting from them and infecting or better inspiring all around them.

Yes we need affiliates, money and to some extent success but the goal "as far as I am concerned" should be personal fulfilment and the love of what you are doing.

Just my opinion... hope I do not step on the wrong peoples toes, but I feel I need to get it our of my system.
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Great info in this thread, anyone doing JV brokering please send me PM.
I have several IM products i am interested to get in front of more people.

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Hi,

I do not think I am ready for JV brokers yet. But I am interested in creating an affiliate referral contract through Clickbank? How much is the market rate (or commission %) that I should pay to get someone to refer affiliates to me? And of course how long should the contract be for?

Any advice would really help as I am not sure where to start.

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This post was extremely interesting and very useful! I really enjoyed hearing from Willie, a true expert in the field. I never heard of JV Brokers before, so this is an area I will definitely be exploring more.
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Some day i'd like to eat pizza with Willie

The description of what he does and how he interacts with big affiliates / vendors it's really interesting.

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I do not have that money to bear Willie's fee. But may be some day...yes some day I will get him behind me.

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$ Up Front - Good JV Broker needed - this post is fantastic - only one like it on the forum. I like the title. Please message me if you are an experienced broker with connections and proven success.
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Val do you offer 1 on 1 coaching on JV's?
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JV Brokers who are any good probably aren't looking for new clients...new clients are seeking them out and their busy putting deals together with all of their connections.

Willie brings up a lot of good points...especially when it comes to actually launching a product...it's not an easy business. If you're looking for a JV Broker or attracting any good affiliates for that matter it's crucial you have some stats. You can test your product / sales funnel here at the WF, via ppc and other methods.

The best thing you can do is build relationships. I can't speak for colleagues Willie, Mike Merz and others...but I know that I'm very selective with who I work with. For me it comes down to the approach from the potential client, the product and the way it's collectively packaged up (from front end to back end), the stats....and the relationship.

On a sidenote, you can also attract affiliates by getting your product listed in the right places....getting it in front of the right eyeballs such as here at the WF via the JV or Affiliate Program Section...

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Thanks Sean appreciate the references will take advantage!
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I often times believe that a lot of people have the wrong notion of JV brokers. We are not the affiliates that you are wanting. We are the ones who put you in contact with the lists, the contacts and helping you manage a successful campaign.

Paying upfront is normal, as you are asking for their time and our resources. One thing I have noticed is that most people who are serious about their business and launches don't balk at the JV broker's fees. There can be debates like you would never believe but do your research and go from there.

Good Luck! By the Willie is pretty freaking cool.

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I am looking for someone to handle all of the online marketing. I have spent years developing the products (and have sold $10 million off-line). is that what a JV broker would do?
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I am looking for someone to handle all of the online marketing. I have spent years developing the products (and have sold $10 million off-line). is that what a JV broker would do?
your looking for a project manager perhaps.
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Thanks a lot to all potential JV brokers/Partners . This discussion helped me a lot for preparation of my first WSO launch. I will contact when my product will be completed.

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I am going to launch a weight loss product at the end of August, If you can help me recruit affiliates and JV Partners, I would appreciate it. You can contact me at support@openweightloss.com.
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