Relentless Backlinks - Updated - Google's Front Page Guaranteed

Ehsan_am · 09-30-2009, 06:12 PM

That's great news uclaboyz. I'm still waiting.

islander1 · 09-30-2009, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by juggernautbitch

Thanks for the information. Scammer Floyd has ignored the Paypal dispute and all other correspondence. I've now filed for chargeback.

I'm keeping my eye on my Paypal claim, they have until Oct 3 to respond. I hope they will refund the payment by that time.

If not, I will file a charge back too, cause it looks like most banks wont allow a credit card charge back after 60 days, and my 60 days will come up in mid-October.

Tom Brite · 10-01-2009, 04:21 AM

Urrrm still nothing!

Had a reply saying it would be a few days before i got a refund but still nothing at all.... come on!

Tom Brite

Tom Brite · 10-04-2009, 05:56 PM

Anyone got a refund yet or heard from this 'guy'?

Tom Brite

Ehsan_am · 10-04-2009, 07:22 PM

Got an answer from paypal saying I was right in the claim but they couldn't recover any funds from merchant account

islander1 · 10-04-2009, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ehsan_am

Got an answer from paypal saying I was right in the claim but they couldn't recover any funds from merchant account

I got the exact same message from Paypal a little while ago. I guess it's time to file the credit card charge back. We'll see how that goes...

Alminc · 10-04-2009, 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ehsan_am

Got an answer from paypal saying I was right in the claim but they couldn't recover any funds from merchant account

Does that mean that we cannot get a refund if there's no funds in his paypal account? I paid using my paypal funds so I cannot file the CC charge back. What to do?

simplykids · 10-05-2009, 02:50 AM

I'm afraid so, I also got the same Paypal answer saying I was right but no money to be retrieved.

I'm afraid this guy has gone with the money.

Renske

erikorganic · 10-05-2009, 01:16 PM

He provided me with a phone number to call him at one time, I have not verified that it works.

If anyone wants it, please send me a PM.

islander1 · 10-08-2009, 12:49 AM

Can you believe that these scammers are STILL selling this bogus package (for $300 now) at this website:

High PR Backlinks Relentless Backlinks Package

They no longer use Paypal. They are now using a service called Alertpay.

Unbelievable!

l23bc · 10-08-2009, 01:11 AM

anyone who paid by mastercard or amex contact their bank card issuer to claim back that way they will investigate the claim and possibly make paypal a chargeback from paypal to credit card

my friend tony jones who works for mbna credit card services here in the uk told me this infomation one time when i had a scammer on my ebay account.
as long as you have filed your disputes withinn the time frame your are entilted to a full refund, anything after 60 days is classed as non refund

anyone here who is like me in the u.k or some places in europe can also be covered

alot of people here very angry and i can imagine the pain and stress

anyway hope that helps
andy

l23bc · 10-08-2009, 01:13 AM

also if anyone uses scam.com or one of them sites let people know about him

islander1 · 10-08-2009, 03:20 AM

If anyone is interested, here is the "whois" info from the domain they use:

Domain ID

28799930-LRMS
Domain Name:HIGHPRBACKLINKS.INFO
Created On:16-Jun-2009 15:54:51 UTC
Last Updated On:15-Aug-2009 20:36:31 UTC
Expiration Date:16-Jun-2010 15:54:51 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:GoDaddy.com Inc. (R171-LRMS)
Status:CLIENT DELETE PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT RENEW PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT UPDATE PROHIBITED
Registrant ID:CR4254930
Registrant Name:Jim Patterson
Registrant Organization:
Registrant Street1:19407 SW 77th Loop
Registrant Street2:
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City

unnellon
Registrant State/Province:Florida
Registrant Postal Code:34432
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.3524892953
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant Email:jim@fb-host.com

Admin, billing and tech info is all the same as registrant.

islander1 · 10-08-2009, 03:24 AM

Here's more. I plugged the phone number listed into switchboard.com and got a different address from the one listed on the domain. Here it is:

Joyce J Patterson

home
11899 N Elkcam Blvd
Dunnellon, FL 34433-2320

(352) 489-2953

Alminc · 10-08-2009, 10:54 AM

I just got this from paypal:

We have decided in your favor, however, we were unable to recover any funds from the seller's account. As stated in the PayPal User Agreement, recovery of funds associated with a Buyer Complaint cannot be guaranteed.

etc.

It seems that I'm scammed, I didn't use CC. Is there anything I can do?
$200 is not little money...

Jeremy Kelsall · 10-08-2009, 11:31 AM

Taking this much money from people - This dude should fear for his safety.

I know alot of people will say "it happens", but I would want to inflict bodily harm on someone that just outright scammed me out of $200.

Everyone should see if they have a cousin or something that lives near this guy to go to his house to collect a check

dave. · 10-08-2009, 11:33 AM

I've also ordered 2 packages and still nothing. I contacted them many times, got some response that they are going to send the reports soon, but I haven't received them yet...

Jeremy Kelsall · 10-08-2009, 11:50 AM

I just got off the phone with my uncle who is an attorney...

He says that you might be able to contact his local police department and have him arrested for "theft by deception"

For anyone that has not received their refund or any correspondence from him - It might be worth looking into...

juggernautbitch · 10-10-2009, 06:46 PM

Same for me, Paypal decided in my favour but no funds to collect. i've filed a chargeback with my credit card company and will know the result later this week.

Johnnyboy83 · 10-11-2009, 04:34 PM

Just to give you guy on update, I never received a refund from a**hole Flyod. I got an email from paypal stating that I won the dispute but they could not recover the money...... so I called American express and did a chargeback, I received a temporary credit for the amount stolen until they finish their investigation.

islander1 · 10-12-2009, 01:22 AM

I filed a chargeback too with my mastercard, and faxed them some supporting documentation-including this thread. I've never done a cc charge back before and I don't know who will end up eating that charge-Paypal or the scammers. In any case, I hope it goes smoothly and I get my money back.

l23bc · 10-15-2009, 12:41 PM

islander these threads are not used by credit card companies as evidence due to reason(s) of so manu forums and free infomation out there it would hard to do they simply use the tranaction infomation

my bank told me when i was almost scammed by a ebay frauster when i used to sell on ebay

andy

islander1 · 10-15-2009, 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by l23bc

islander these threads are not used by credit card companies as evidence due to reason(s) of so manu forums and free infomation out there it would hard to do they simply use the tranaction infomation

my bank told me when i was almost scammed by a ebay frauster when i used to sell on ebay

andy

Thanks for the advice-this thread was only one of the documents I faxed them. I also sent them a copy of my Paypal correspondence showing that Paypal had decided the dispute in my favor, along with some other documentations like correspondence between me and the scammers where they promised a refund.

The thread documents I sent were mainly just to back up the fact that this was a clear scam-it was not the central supporting document.

The bank says it may take 60 days to resolve-we'll see what happens...

aaramire · 10-17-2009, 02:09 PM

I used pay-pal/wire transfer and its been over 45 days so basically they said their is nothing they can do about it.

Has anyone had any luck e-mailing him? Basically my only option is to request a refund directly from him. =/

BigBlueSky · 10-23-2009, 04:34 PM

Did anybody contact the new payment proccessor company? I would sent in all the emails with paypal, but my emails back and forth are in German and I don't think a Canadian Company would translate it in a case they are not involved in. But maybe they would shut down his account if they could clearly see he is a scammer. Just a thought.

islander1 · 12-09-2009, 12:54 AM

I figured I should update this thread.

I did receive the chargeback from my credit card company. They said if the merchant did not dispute it, then to consider it resolved. Then I got an email from Paypal saying they had received the claim and will further investigate. I heard nothing further, and that was in October, so I believe everything is resolved.

The only thing I'm not sure of is who had to eat the $200. I assume it was Paypal, since the scammers apparently already cleaned out their Paypal account.

So, lesson learned-NEVER sign up to any of these types of offers without using the Paypal credit card option. If the seller does not offer it, then don't buy the product.

09-30-2009, 06:12 PM	#151
Ehsan_am Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Paris- France Posts: 660 Thanks: 29 Thanked 57 Times in 52 Posts	Re: Relentless Backlinks - Updated - Google's Front Page Guaranteed That's great news uclaboyz. I'm still waiting.

10-01-2009, 04:21 AM	#153
Tom Brite Banned War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: UK and France Posts: 1,103 Thanks: 261 Thanked 188 Times in 100 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Relentless Backlinks - Updated - Google's Front Page Guaranteed Urrrm still nothing! Had a reply saying it would be a few days before i got a refund but still nothing at all.... come on! Tom Brite

10-04-2009, 05:56 PM	#154
Tom Brite Banned War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: UK and France Posts: 1,103 Thanks: 261 Thanked 188 Times in 100 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Relentless Backlinks - Updated - Google's Front Page Guaranteed Anyone got a refund yet or heard from this 'guy'? Tom Brite

10-04-2009, 07:22 PM	#155
Ehsan_am Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Paris- France Posts: 660 Thanks: 29 Thanked 57 Times in 52 Posts	Re: Relentless Backlinks - Updated - Google's Front Page Guaranteed Got an answer from paypal saying I was right in the claim but they couldn't recover any funds from merchant account

10-05-2009, 02:50 AM	#158
simplykids HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: , , . Posts: 119 Thanks: 1 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts Contact Info	Re: Relentless Backlinks - Updated - Google's Front Page Guaranteed I'm afraid so, I also got the same Paypal answer saying I was right but no money to be retrieved. I'm afraid this guy has gone with the money. Renske

10-05-2009, 01:16 PM	#159
erikorganic This Space For Rent War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 41 Thanks: 6 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Relentless Backlinks - Updated - Google's Front Page Guaranteed He provided me with a phone number to call him at one time, I have not verified that it works. If anyone wants it, please send me a PM.

10-08-2009, 12:49 AM	#160
islander1 Active Warrior Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Minnesota Posts: 88 Thanks: 1 Thanked 15 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Relentless Backlinks - Updated - Google's Front Page Guaranteed Can you believe that these scammers are STILL selling this bogus package (for $300 now) at this website: High PR Backlinks Relentless Backlinks Package They no longer use Paypal. They are now using a service called Alertpay. Unbelievable!

10-08-2009, 01:11 AM	#161
l23bc Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: From Liverpool U.k But now in a small cottage in wicklow,Dublin, soon to be heading to miami, Posts: 1,493 Blog Entries: 9 Thanks: 97 Thanked 110 Times in 97 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Relentless Backlinks - Updated - Google's Front Page Guaranteed anyone who paid by mastercard or amex contact their bank card issuer to claim back that way they will investigate the claim and possibly make paypal a chargeback from paypal to credit card my friend tony jones who works for mbna credit card services here in the uk told me this infomation one time when i had a scammer on my ebay account. as long as you have filed your disputes withinn the time frame your are entilted to a full refund, anything after 60 days is classed as non refund anyone here who is like me in the u.k or some places in europe can also be covered alot of people here very angry and i can imagine the pain and stress anyway hope that helps andy

10-08-2009, 01:13 AM	#162
l23bc Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: From Liverpool U.k But now in a small cottage in wicklow,Dublin, soon to be heading to miami, Posts: 1,493 Blog Entries: 9 Thanks: 97 Thanked 110 Times in 97 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Relentless Backlinks - Updated - Google's Front Page Guaranteed also if anyone uses scam.com or one of them sites let people know about him

10-08-2009, 03:20 AM	#163
islander1 Active Warrior Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Minnesota Posts: 88 Thanks: 1 Thanked 15 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Relentless Backlinks - Updated - Google's Front Page Guaranteed If anyone is interested, here is the "whois" info from the domain they use: Domain ID28799930-LRMS Domain Name:HIGHPRBACKLINKS.INFO Created On:16-Jun-2009 15:54:51 UTC Last Updated On:15-Aug-2009 20:36:31 UTC Expiration Date:16-Jun-2010 15:54:51 UTC Sponsoring Registrar:GoDaddy.com Inc. (R171-LRMS) Status:CLIENT DELETE PROHIBITED Status:CLIENT RENEW PROHIBITED Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED Status:CLIENT UPDATE PROHIBITED Registrant ID:CR4254930 Registrant Name:Jim Patterson Registrant Organization: Registrant Street1:19407 SW 77th Loop Registrant Street2: Registrant Street3: Registrant Cityunnellon Registrant State/Province:Florida Registrant Postal Code:34432 Registrant Country:US Registrant Phone:+1.3524892953 Registrant Phone Ext.: Registrant FAX: Registrant FAX Ext.: Registrant Email:jim@fb-host.com Admin, billing and tech info is all the same as registrant.

10-08-2009, 03:24 AM	#164
islander1 Active Warrior Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Minnesota Posts: 88 Thanks: 1 Thanked 15 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Relentless Backlinks - Updated - Google's Front Page Guaranteed Here's more. I plugged the phone number listed into switchboard.com and got a different address from the one listed on the domain. Here it is: Joyce J Patterson home 11899 N Elkcam Blvd Dunnellon, FL 34433-2320 (352) 489-2953

10-08-2009, 10:54 AM	#165
Alminc Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Stockholm , Sweden. Posts: 1,469 Thanks: 33 Thanked 151 Times in 92 Posts Contact Info	Re: Relentless Backlinks - Updated - Google's Front Page Guaranteed I just got this from paypal: We have decided in your favor, however, we were unable to recover any funds from the seller's account. As stated in the PayPal User Agreement, recovery of funds associated with a Buyer Complaint cannot be guaranteed. etc. It seems that I'm scammed, I didn't use CC. Is there anything I can do? $200 is not little money...

10-08-2009, 11:31 AM	#166
Jeremy Kelsall Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: , , USA. Posts: 6,797 Blog Entries: 3 Thanks: 1,050 Thanked 3,672 Times in 1,256 Posts	Re: Relentless Backlinks - Updated - Google's Front Page Guaranteed Taking this much money from people - This dude should fear for his safety. I know alot of people will say "it happens", but I would want to inflict bodily harm on someone that just outright scammed me out of $200. Everyone should see if they have a cousin or something that lives near this guy to go to his house to collect a check

10-08-2009, 11:33 AM	#167
dave. HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Hungary Posts: 160 Thanks: 23 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Contact Info	Re: Relentless Backlinks - Updated - Google's Front Page Guaranteed I've also ordered 2 packages and still nothing. I contacted them many times, got some response that they are going to send the reports soon, but I haven't received them yet...

10-08-2009, 11:50 AM	#168
Jeremy Kelsall Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: , , USA. Posts: 6,797 Blog Entries: 3 Thanks: 1,050 Thanked 3,672 Times in 1,256 Posts	Re: Relentless Backlinks - Updated - Google's Front Page Guaranteed I just got off the phone with my uncle who is an attorney... He says that you might be able to contact his local police department and have him arrested for "theft by deception" For anyone that has not received their refund or any correspondence from him - It might be worth looking into...

10-10-2009, 06:46 PM	#169
juggernautbitch Active Warrior Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 59 Thanks: 1 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	Re: Relentless Backlinks - Updated - Google's Front Page Guaranteed Same for me, Paypal decided in my favour but no funds to collect. i've filed a chargeback with my credit card company and will know the result later this week.

10-11-2009, 04:34 PM	#170
Johnnyboy83 Firefox Junkie Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 174 Thanks: 0 Thanked 13 Times in 13 Posts	Re: Relentless Backlinks - Updated - Google's Front Page Guaranteed Just to give you guy on update, I never received a refund from a**hole Flyod. I got an email from paypal stating that I won the dispute but they could not recover the money...... so I called American express and did a chargeback, I received a temporary credit for the amount stolen until they finish their investigation.

10-12-2009, 01:22 AM	#171
islander1 Active Warrior Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Minnesota Posts: 88 Thanks: 1 Thanked 15 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Relentless Backlinks - Updated - Google's Front Page Guaranteed I filed a chargeback too with my mastercard, and faxed them some supporting documentation-including this thread. I've never done a cc charge back before and I don't know who will end up eating that charge-Paypal or the scammers. In any case, I hope it goes smoothly and I get my money back.

10-15-2009, 12:41 PM	#172
l23bc Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: From Liverpool U.k But now in a small cottage in wicklow,Dublin, soon to be heading to miami, Posts: 1,493 Blog Entries: 9 Thanks: 97 Thanked 110 Times in 97 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Relentless Backlinks - Updated - Google's Front Page Guaranteed islander these threads are not used by credit card companies as evidence due to reason(s) of so manu forums and free infomation out there it would hard to do they simply use the tranaction infomation my bank told me when i was almost scammed by a ebay frauster when i used to sell on ebay andy

10-17-2009, 02:09 PM	#174
aaramire HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 122 Thanks: 6 Thanked 8 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Relentless Backlinks - Updated - Google's Front Page Guaranteed I used pay-pal/wire transfer and its been over 45 days so basically they said their is nothing they can do about it. Has anyone had any luck e-mailing him? Basically my only option is to request a refund directly from him. =/

10-23-2009, 04:34 PM	#175
BigBlueSky A German in America Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Eastern Panhandle,WV Posts: 36 Thanks: 14 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Relentless Backlinks - Updated - Google's Front Page Guaranteed Did anybody contact the new payment proccessor company? I would sent in all the emails with paypal, but my emails back and forth are in German and I don't think a Canadian Company would translate it in a case they are not involved in. But maybe they would shut down his account if they could clearly see he is a scammer. Just a thought.

12-09-2009, 12:54 AM	#176
islander1 Active Warrior Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Minnesota Posts: 88 Thanks: 1 Thanked 15 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Relentless Backlinks - Updated - Google's Front Page Guaranteed I figured I should update this thread. I did receive the chargeback from my credit card company. They said if the merchant did not dispute it, then to consider it resolved. Then I got an email from Paypal saying they had received the claim and will further investigate. I heard nothing further, and that was in October, so I believe everything is resolved. The only thing I'm not sure of is who had to eat the $200. I assume it was Paypal, since the scammers apparently already cleaned out their Paypal account. So, lesson learned-NEVER sign up to any of these types of offers without using the Paypal credit card option. If the seller does not offer it, then don't buy the product.