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I agree on the fact that google might get suspicious on the traffic. Even though you need to get all kinds of traffic to hide your tarffic source and lower your CTR you gotta realise that most people clicking on the adds will come from nowhere and Google will probabaly notice this. I actually was thinking that you might even want to try this with not that high paying keywords. High paying keywords mean high competition and google won't like it if a site which doesn't even rank gets too much traffic and adsense clicks. | |
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Well I don't really agree with this. You always can get other adsense accounts. I mean even if you don't want to use a different adress you can use your wife or you relatives, friends names and open a new adsense account. | |
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Hey folks When you display your Adsense screens, be careful not to show the CTR numbers as I believe it's against Google TOS to show this information. Correct me if I'm wrong. I don't want the Warrior Forum to get into trouble. Norman |
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| Why would you want to go through the hassle of getting your wife or neighbor to sign up for a new account....when you just lost the money that was in your original account because it was banned? lol - I don't get it...
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Well Who says you are going to get banned as soon as you make your first 100$??? As you can see OP has been doing this for 5 months. I'm not saying this can't happen but you might as well try this and have a chance at making some good money with this. I can understand that you don't want to risk your adsense account. But if you don't make any money with adsense you can at least have a shot at it with this technique. | |
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Here's what I don't get: If it's that easy to get an adsense account banned, couldn't you just send a lot of click-happy traffic to your competitor's websites and sabotage their adsense?
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yes i'm doing this for 5 months already..this is black-hat.. and you should know what is the risk when using this method.. if you afraid to loose.. then, this is not for you.. one more thing, this method can be used with other ads network to.. either you make the money, or someone else will. That’s it. It’s business, people. Nothing more, nothing less. Either you eat, or be eaten. | |
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Well, I'm in I set up a test and in one hour Today's Earnings: $38.73 Page impressions Clicks Page CTR Page eCPM [?] Earnings AdSense for Content 299 75 25.08% $129.55 $38.73 Total Earnings $38.73 So, I'm curious about how this works. Thanks. |
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| | #59 |
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| mind to share us your screenshot?
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Hi, just made a payment, waiting for your reply |
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| Garret Acott War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Ft Collins, CO USA
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To me, the smart play here is using other networks. The payout wouldn't be as high but you aren't really chancing slitting your own throat with Google either. Garret |
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Yeh I agree with Garret, but which networks are worthwhile? And how do you find high paying keywords with them?
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Oh, I can think of several 'other' networks that could work with this, if utilizing this method is a matter of POINTING this 'mysterious' traffic to your preferred site or page. But not having purchased the guide yet, I may be just talking out my ear. I just sent 'AdsensePayback' my adsense code, so let's see if the proof IS in the pudding. |
| Last edited by webdiva; 08-27-2009 at 03:57 PM. Reason: wrong username for 'AdensePayback' | |
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| Garret Acott War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Ft Collins, CO USA
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| MrEyeconic I think it will probably take a bit of leg work to figure it out. This is my strategy: grab a domain name that that is generic enough to use but still targeted for high paying keywords, even in another network. Huh? :-) I mean something like legalbiz.com, or whatever. Now do a bit of research on your ad networks, and pop up some sub-domains @legalbiz.com. So something like headinjury.legalbiz.com. Get those up and running. I would (rather will) do a number of them, let them run for awhile and then start using this method. I will spend about 1/2 hour setting all of these up because I'll be using wordpress and a subdomain plugin and I will set them all on auto status. Probably be making some pretty good $$ on affiliate sales also. :-) Garret |
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| Garret Acott War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Ft Collins, CO USA
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I REALLY like the fact that I seem to have the largest return so far. Must be destiny. |
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| Rock 'N Roll Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: United States
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Well I personally wouldnt touch this WSO... Blackhat = unethical... Why do that? In fact this could border on the illegal side because it is against adsense TOS. Which you agreed to. Better hope there is no click fraud or anything along those lines. I believe you put up this WSO because you know Google is going to be dropping the banhammer on this method and you just want the quick cash from a lot of money hungry IM'ers from the forum. Lets face it... google can trace things... You login to the forum here... you post that you bought it and its working great etc... then you login to your website or your adsense account... google can follow that. They have the top statistics software and near unlimited resources... do you really think you can beat them? Yea i dont like those footprints. But just my .02 |
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| Garret Acott War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Ft Collins, CO USA
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So at the end of the day I try not to make too many judgements myself, I'm in no position to judge anybody. I take in as much information as possible and make my own choices. I'll be responsible for my actions and imagine one way or another, others will be responsible for theirs. Garret | |
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But just realize that chances are good you are ripping people off on this very forum more than likely by using this method.What the hell though - It's a couple of bucks, right? | |||
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| People are mature enough to to expand their IM education in any way they see fit. What they choose to do with the info is for them to decide. I'm not endorsing the product, and though my curiosity compelled me to buy it, I have no plans to use it. But I don't like to see a WSO getting shot down by people who don't have any experience with the product, and have no interest in purchasing it. The author of the WSO is very upfront about the nature of the material he is offering. I believe it's the policy of this section that you shouldn't be commenting if you're not a buyer or potential customer with a question. And afterall Jeremy, you have a WSO that includes in the title "...Piss People off on the Warrior Forum..." (which I bought and thought was great). You admit in your WSO that Black-Hat techniques are discussed, and TOS are violated. It wouldn't be hard to turn your words around on yourself. |
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I'm not going to get into a pissing match about this because frankly, I don't really care one way or the other. The adwords racket is tough enough without a bunch of people running around getting people charged for illegitimate clicks. | |
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If you can really compare the two methods - 1 which rips off advertisers and one which manipulates numbers to your benefit then you need to have a serious session of reflecting dude... | |
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Ethics in IM sound like a joke to me. This is business and money. No one cares about ethics. You can realise that by looking at all the review pages people put up on their sites to promote a product, when they actually have no clue what the product is about and they never plan on purchasing it themselves.
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It's easier to go on a self-righteous rant about this because it's more direct in terms of generating money. Do the internet gods really frown more harshly on this as opposed to someone who puts a bogus profile on a forum for backlinking purposes? | |
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Freeman, putting a profile on a forum for backlinks doesn't take money out of anyones pocket ![]() You certainly have the right to your opinion, but what I think a lot of people don't get is that your not just taking cash from Google...You are taking money from the people that advertise on Google which could be ANYONE in this forum. Any person that pays to have their ads shows could be affected by this and I personally think that is ****ty. |
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| I disagree. Both exploit the system, sometimes at the expense of advertisers, competitors, or the TOS of a resource.
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| I advertise on Adwords, so I can relate to your feelings on this. But if I had a forum and people were exploiting it for backlinks, I'd probably feel just as violated as an Adwords customer who is the victim of clickfraud. Anyway, I'll let you have the last word if oyu want it, and then we can give this thread back to the peeps wanting to discuss the specifics of the WSO.
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I can be swayed pretty far to the "dark side" but I draw the line at stealing. On a positive note for the seller - by bringing these things up there is a good chance that he will probably sell 50 more copies than he originally would have...Controversy sells, right? | |
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(1). Hit your, "Print Scrn/ Sys Rq" key - this will take a picture of whatever is on your monitor at the time. (2). Pull up Microsoft "Paint" usually found by going to START - PROGRAMS - ACCESSORIES - PAINT (3). Go to "Edit" and then select "Paste" voila! (4). After that you can save the file and then post it as you please Another option that willl give you more functionality is buying one of the screen capture programs. | |
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Well personally I dont think much of the guy selling this WSO as I am an avid Adwords user and have always been. It aggravates me to know that I may be paying so much per click because you help people to successfully engange in click fraud. Which is theft. From Google and from many warriors who also use adwords. if he generates $200 a day for 1 month thats about $6,000 in ONE month. Okay hes selling this $37.. something seems wrong here... By selling this he is giving away his "Secret" and sooner or later he is going to ruin it for himself. IF he has even gotten this to work consistently OR if he even has an adsense account anymore. If I had that kind of secret I wouldnt tell a soul. Screenshots are easy to fake. I can come up with a blackhat method that is almost fool proof. Make it sound really impressive, Photoshop a screenshot and then boom. Sell it as a WSO. Hmm maybe I should get his Ip Address and report this WSO to google? I bet thatd give them a nice heads up. |
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You're saying: "Money comes out of someone's pocket for bogus click, so that equals bad." Which is a fine stance. But I'm trying to illustrate how the ethics of internet marketing are a little more nuanced than that. As I said, I'm not endorsing this, and I don't have plans to use it. I'm happy to learn about it though, because it helps inform me. OK, that's really my last word. | |
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Freeman, I see where you are coming from ![]() I just wanted to comment here so that the guy that just bought his first WSO or maybe hasn't been doing it that long understood what it was and what the repercussions might be. Jeremy |
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I have a Adsense Acct and a Adwords Acct and I watch them like a HAWK! If I tracked such suspicious activity you can best believe I'm going to address it with a Ninja 360 degrees over the top drop kick! I've probably read about a couple dozen Blackhat ebooks and am a member of a number of Blackhat forums. I do this so I can track what these guys are doing to make sure they don't stick it to me! IMO - No such activity is worth getting BANNED! In addition, you just may be blackhatting income from one of your fellow warriors members???![]() Not trying to rain on your parade, just stating the facts! | |
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Well, here's my screenshot showing $66.98 in Adsense earnings with AdsensePayBack using my Adsense ad unit and his technique for just ONE (1) hour. ![]() I used my least active Adsense account for this test (I have two accounts). NOW I'm a believer that this works. So I'm going to buy this Warrior's report and find out exactly HOW his technique actually works. I like to think outside the box. Thinking outside of the box has been very Very good to me. There could be additional ways to utilize this technique, and I'm going to find out. Thanks AdsensePayback! |
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I think there is definately another way in monetizing this traffic. Time to get my thinking cap on. I'll report back IF i think of something Gurpreet |
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This is a very basic technique... many people have lost their accounts doing this... Google WILL get suspicious when doing a double metal refresh. Just my opinion though... |
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Be VERY wary of this, this is past BlueFart, this is outright fraud and clear theft. Infact you could easily be stealing directly from the pockets of warriors and people who can ill afford to be stolen from. Anybody who advertisers with Google for their business/product is the target of this theft. In addition Google will shut your account down in a heartbeat with this and may well take it further to make an example of some people. Also note this guy refuses to refund, so I seriously suggest you consider this very carefully. I am about to open a paypal dispute now. In addition, ask yourself , if this technique has any long term value, why he's so desperate for funds he can't refund a $37 purchase. Out of dozens of WSO's, this will be my first ever refund. |
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| I clearly mention in my sales letter this is a black-hat technique.. and if you’re faint-hearted, this is not for you.. if you are white-hat guy, this is also not for you.. so, please back off from this thread. when we talk about black-hat, you should understand this technique comes with the risk.. either you make money, or someone else will.. if you too much worry about your account, this game is not for you man! you can continue with your daily bored activity and forget about this WSO and do not come back here. i already show you that this technique works...you can find a lot of screenshot from the warriors who take the "test drive" session.. either you want to belive it of not it is up to you. use your judgement. i'm here to help others to make money online. i belive some of my buyers already have an idea on how to manipulate this technique with other ads network or other programs. i know, there's a lot of potential here.. it is time for you to act! |
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I don't think clicks that come from people who seek information are "fraud clicks". (And of course, if they found what they're really looking for, it's most likely they'd buy it wouldn't they ? So, it's worth your AdWords cost) At least that's what I understand from the traffic source's readme page. . . . . . |
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There is no doubt "it works" so does credit card fraud. Just be very wary of these earnings screen shots, this is NOT warriors testing it for themselves, this is him taking their adsense code and adding to his sites, or even him just spamming clicks to it, he could well end up destroying your accounts. I've had two PM's in 5 minutes from Warriors who were in that test, and one of them saying he didn't even understand what happened with the test but was asked to post the image here. That this guy won't honour refunds on a WSO on the Warrior forum should ring alarm bells. | |
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if giving people a refund just because he had no intention to use the information that he get from the ebook, then no one will selling ebook.. anyone can get a free copy from ebook seller... after buy just will ask for a refund with the reason "I had no intention of using it".. | |
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Warriors buy thousands of WSO's a day, we don't refund them, even if we don't end up using them, but they don't promote out and out theft. Your book will get people's accounts banned and probably worse. Your "testimonials" are simply you spam frauding clicks to other people's accounts. People scanning this might be misled into thinking it was Warriors actually testing this themselves on their own websites etc. Had your WSO stated this was stealing from advertisers , I would never have purchased it. Warriors honour other warriors on this forum, this is a DP type product at best and has no place here on WF. I don't care about $39, I do care however about the principle, that a Warrior refuses to refund a fellow Warrior on a WSO unless they commit fraud. Like Jeremey, I'll be bowing out now and leaving this thread, I've made my feelings clear on this product and your own ethics when it comes to dealing with fellow warriors. I'll see let Paypal deal with it from here. | |
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