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Old 11-05-2009, 03:49 PM   #51
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If you buy this WSO, you can throw away all the other manuals you have on writing for autoresponders.

This book is the best and the only one you will ever need!

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Hello Raydal

This is my website: Quinny Zapp Pushchair - Quinny Zapp Pushchair Review Site

The plan is to giveaway a free pdf report about the quinny zapp pushchair. With some follow ups.

Will your product help me write emails for physical products ONLY for the quinny zapp pushchair?

Will I learn how often to send email, the correct length for such a niche?

Does your winning formula apply regardless of niche, whether digital or physical products, general/specific?

Above all, do you think I can make extra sales with autoresponders for the quinny zapp pushchair?

Thank you for your reply in advance.

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Old 11-07-2009, 08:33 PM   #53
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Hello Raydal

This is my website: Quinny Zapp Pushchair - Quinny Zapp Pushchair Review Site

The plan is to giveaway a free pdf report about the quinny zapp pushchair. With some follow ups.

Will your product help me write emails for physical products ONLY for the quinny zapp pushchair?

Will I learn how often to send email, the correct length for such a niche?

Does your winning formula apply regardless of niche, whether digital or physical products, general/specific?

Above all, do you think I can make extra sales with autoresponders for the quinny zapp pushchair?

Thank you for your reply in advance.

Best regards
Michael
Hi Michael,

A simple answer is yes. This is not the typical site since it's not
a long sales letter, but the template I share would sell anything
that you are SELLING. The point here is that if you follow up
on your prospects with this series you are more likely to make
more sales.

Now for the selling part: How much items do you need to sell to
cover the investment in my book?

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Old 11-07-2009, 08:58 PM   #54
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Hi Michael,

A simple answer is yes. This is not the typical site since it's not
a long sales letter, but the template I share would sell anything
that you are SELLING. The point here is that if you follow up
on your prospects with this series you are more likely to make
more sales.

Now for the selling part: How much items do you need to sell to
cover the investment in my book?

-Ray Edwards
Thanks for reply Ray

I would have to make 5.3 sales to cover the investment. Right now I'm converting at 2.28% and that is just people visiting the site and clicking on the affiliate offer. Not good enough. I can imagine if they were to revisit the offer again via emails then more sales. I'd be happy with a 4% conversion.

I'm waiting for my free report to be written as I've outsourced it so I will be back to get your report.

Thank you again.

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Old 11-09-2009, 05:40 PM   #55
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Thanks for reply Ray


I'm waiting for my free report to be written as I've outsourced it so I will be back to get your report.

Thank you again.

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I actually use a free report as a model for the series so this will
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Ray,

Do you cover what strategies, offers, etc you have used to get the most optins to your autoresponder series?

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Do you cover what strategies, offers, etc you have used to get the most optins to your autoresponder series?

Ron
No, this is strictly about writing autoresponder series and not how to
grow your list or create landing pages. That may be a great title for
another product, but didn't want to make this one so comprehensive.

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Just got it and looking forward to learning the psychology behind AR!
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Old 11-18-2009, 09:18 PM   #59
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Just got it and looking forward to learning the psychology behind AR!
And just in time. This offer will soon disappear as I am preparing to
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Resisted for $17 and couldn't resist for $37... (better than $97...)

I guess there is a minor error on page 18: schedule for 10 email series.

First impression: very nice. The software will be great too. I didn't get in download page. Any date for release?

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Resisted for $17 and couldn't resist for $37... (better than $97...)

I guess there is a minor error on page 18: schedule for 10 email series.

First impression: very nice. The software will be great too. I didn't get in download page. Any date for release?

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Hi Antonio,

The website would officially launch by next Friday (black Friday), where
you'll get an update to the book with all corrections and also a template
for writing solo ads. All WSO purchasers will get these updates along
with the software.

I'm putting the last touches on the software and then you'll have
everything. Please note that the software is a BONUS and not part
of the original offer.

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Ray,

I am not a true IM'er, I work in software outsourcing and we do large scale web applications for various companies. But I do read a lot here to keep up on marketing techniques and do a small bit of email marketing for a few small businesses. Anyway, I am have been thinking of using an auto-responder to drum up business for the company I work for. Our prospective clients are high-tech CEO's, CTO, VP of Eng, etc.. I have a lot of email addresses for these exec's and have people in India researching email address for me at various companies. I am not looking to sell anything physically, basically, I want to send them emails, build there confidence in us with hopes they reach out to us for an appointment and ultimately our development services. Does your WSO cover this type of plan?
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Ray,

I am not a true IM'er, I work in software outsourcing and we do large scale web applications for various companies. But I do read a lot here to keep up on marketing techniques and do a small bit of email marketing for a few small businesses. Anyway, I am have been thinking of using an auto-responder to drum up business for the company I work for. Our prospective clients are high-tech CEO's, CTO, VP of Eng, etc.. I have a lot of email addresses for these exec's and have people in India researching email address for me at various companies. I am not looking to sell anything physically, basically, I want to send them emails, build there confidence in us with hopes they reach out to us for an appointment and ultimately our development services. Does your WSO cover this type of plan?
My book deals with selling any product or service. If you want to
build relationships over time then you are looking at "newsletter"
type marketing, but if you are SELLING to a list of people and
want to get them to your website where they buy your product
or service then my product covers the bases.

The ebook is not product or market specific but give you the A.I.D.A
of autoresponder series writing. That's the best way I can put it.

Thanks for your question.

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Hi Ray,

I had trouble downloading after purchasing. My computer started acting up and then I accidentally closed the tab and couldn't get back to the page. I wasn't able to download anything.

Can you please PM me the link?

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Old 11-20-2009, 06:45 AM   #65
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I had trouble downloading after purchasing. My computer started acting up and then I accidentally closed the tab and couldn't get back to the page. I wasn't able to download anything.

Can you please PM me the link?

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Hi Michael,

I sent you the link through email and also PM just as a backup.

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Thanks Ray,

I got it.

After reading the first 20 pages, I can actually say this is one of those WSO's I'm glad I purchased. You've gone into a lot of detail showing how and why the email examples you chose were successful.

The templates, the book, everything is 1st class.

This is really going to help writing those AR series I always struggle with.

Thanks again friend!

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Thanks Ray,

I got it.

After reading the first 20 pages, I can actually say this is one of those WSO's I'm glad I purchased. You've gone into a lot of detail showing how and why the email examples you chose were successful.

The templates, the book, everything is 1st class.

This is really going to help writing those AR series I always struggle with.

Thanks again friend!

Michael
Hi Michael,

Glad you love the book and hope that you get a lot
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Thank you for the opportunity to buy this book, I like products that are easy to understand and use, but also of a very high quality, this has it all.

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Thank you for the opportunity to buy this book, I like products that are easy to understand and use, but also of a very high quality, this has it all.

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This is great stuff Ray.

I was writing my first autoresponder series for the past couple of hours. I popped into the WF to see if I could find out a proven interval for sending out the emails, and maybe some tips on how many emails I should include in the series.

Lucky for me, I found your WSO. I hit the motherload with your info. Absolutely everything I need in one, still very affordable package! And for any of you on the fence - it'll still be a rediculous steal at $97!

Wish I thought to seek some answers before I started writing this afternoon. Would have saved myself a couple of hours of wasted work (yes, fortunately for me I now see that I was doing it ALL WRONG!)

Thanks again Ray!
-Robert

P.S. Any tips on writing that first email to drive them to the squeeze page to get this autoresponder series kicked off? If you've got a WSO on that tactic, I'm in on that one too.
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This is great stuff Ray.

I was writing my first autoresponder series for the past couple of hours. I popped into the WF to see if I could find out a proven interval for sending out the emails, and maybe some tips on how many emails I should include in the series.

Lucky for me, I found your WSO. I hit the motherload with your info. Absolutely everything I need in one, still very affordable package! And for any of you on the fence - it'll still be a rediculous steal at $97!

Wish I thought to seek some answers before I started writing this afternoon. Would have saved myself a couple of hours of wasted work (yes, fortunately for me I now see that I was doing it ALL WRONG!)

Thanks again Ray!
-Robert

P.S. Any tips on writing that first email to drive them to the squeeze page to get this autoresponder series kicked off? If you've got a WSO on that tactic, I'm in on that one too.

Thanks for the great review. Glad that you found the product useful.

Note that I've included the template for the solo ad. That is what you'll
use to drive them to the page. I've also included solo ads in the swipe
file for you to model from. Be sure to check those out.

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Hello Ray,

Did you already sent out the updated package?!

If you did, how can I get it?

Thanks,

António

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The website would officially launch by next Friday (black Friday), where
you'll get an update to the book with all corrections and also a template
for writing solo ads. All WSO purchasers will get these updates along
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I'm putting the last touches on the software and then you'll have
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Did you already sent out the updated package?!

If you did, how can I get it?

Thanks,

António
Yes I sent out the updated package download link to all those
who purchased already on Friday. I sent it to the PAYPAL
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If that's not your usual email, check and see if you got it.
Most people I know did.

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Checked inbox and spam box and nothing.

Could please send it again?

Nov. 18, 2009 21:15:54 PST
Transaction ID: 33C63865AR629700G

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Checked inbox and spam box and nothing.

Could please send it again?

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Transaction ID: 33C63865AR629700G

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I've sent you a PM.

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Great! Since I didn't require an optin for those who bought this WSO
then the only way to contact everyone with the latest edition of
the book and the new software was to get the email addresses
from their paypal order.

So if any other Warrior who bought this product and didn't get the
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For all future buyers, you'll get the latest book plus the software
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What kind of conversion rate can I expect from this product? I'm good at getting traffic but my AR series sucks I would be happy with even 2%!
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I cannot promise any conversion rate because there are too many factors involved.

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Whew..luckily I got in a day before the deadline.

Reading the PDF now. It's engaging.
It gives structure to things.

Some of us would know some of the bits
and pieces but through Ray's work,
everything is laid out, given structure
and becomes a step by step process
on how to create an effective AR.

Haven't finished it though..Hope to apply
the lessons by Ray to my actual work.

So far everything looks bright and positive.

All the best,

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Thanks Omar!

Yes this baby closes tomorrow at 5:30 PM EST and the price goes
to the normal $97. So if you've been on the fence for this one
the time to act is now.

You have less than 48 hrs left. This is NOT a marketing gimmick.

When I close, I really close.

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Over 138 COPIES SOLD So Far--With Top Reviews!!

Hi Warriors,

I want to share with you my TEMPLATE for writing winning
autoresponder series. I've been doing this for over 7 years
now and have perfected the art to the extent that I've
worked it down to a SECRET TEMPLATE ...

--Number of emails
--Subject lines
--What to say in EACH PARAGRAPH
--Critical elements you must NEVER leave out.
--Schedule
--Order of the emails: what to say in first, second, third email etc.,

You get the idea.

I've NEVER shared this with anyone (not even my coaching students) before ... UNTIL NOW!

This is a whopping 182 page document sharing all my secrets to
writing winning autoresponder series with LIVE examples and
'autopsy-like' annotated notes using my winning autoresponder
swipe files (my letters) so you can model from.

Click here to see sample swipe page!

The only thing that's more AMAZING than this new release is
the WSO price ...

..... ONLY $37 .... (Launch Price $97)

If you have been struggling to write your own autoresponder series
then this is your moment of truth.


Regards,

Ray L. Edwards
Copywriter, Published Author

P.S. You can see a full-blown sales letter here: Autoresponder Email Marketing Series Secret Templates

Also buyers of this WSO would get software below FREE!!

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Too busy right now, but do you have a launch list we can get on so we know when it goes live?
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Too busy right now, but do you have a launch list we can get on so we know when it goes live?
It is already LIVE: Autoresponder Email Marketing Series Secret Templates

The WSO would just not be available after today. So if you want
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Thanks to the over 140 warriors who took advantage of this special offer!

This offer is now closed at the WSO price but can be had at $97, which
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any ideas on where i can find something similar since this one is closed? I'm havin a bit of trouble writing my autoresponder messages...
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any ideas on where i can find something similar since this one is closed? I'm havin a bit of trouble writing my autoresponder messages...

This OFFER is closed but not the product. You can still get the
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I got this some time ago but only just managed to get around to it. Ray's writing is very clear and easy to read, and the instructions are very easy to follow.

I would highly recommend this prouct to anyone who wants to write an AR series, even at the $97 price tag he's now got it at.
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I got this some time ago but only just managed to get around to it. Ray's writing is very clear and easy to read, and the instructions are very easy to follow.

I would highly recommend this prouct to anyone who wants to write an AR series, even at the $97 price tag he's now got it at.
Thanks for your testimonial and other Warriors are getting it at the new
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Offer has now been added to ClickBank, so those who want to promote
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Hi, Raydal
Do you think your product is applicable to spanish market? (spanish email marketing)
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Yes, it is applicable to any market. Of course the manual and software
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Heard a lot about your blueprint since I've been hanging out here but always forgot to go and grab a copy so I just couldn't resist when I saw you bumping the offer. Can't wait to give it a read over the week-end.
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Heard a lot about your blueprint since I've been hanging out here but always forgot to go and grab a copy so I just couldn't resist when I saw you bumping the offer. Can't wait to give it a read over the week-end.
I had no intention of making this a WSO again but I've come to
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Ray, I still haven't been able to get the material, please look into the issue.

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Ray, I still haven't been able to get the material, please look into the issue.

Alex.
Sorry about the glitch, but you did have access to the information
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You got the wrong link which was for the coaching program, but things
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Got it, thanks!
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i got my copy. look great

rewards.....
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Hi Ray

I am starting out with email marketing and particularly autoresponders for small, local business. I have found that my clients often have databases of tens to thousands of previous prospects that they never followed up with. I'd like to help them craft messages to re-engage with those previous orospects. Would you product be suitable fir this? My clients are screen door manufcturers, embroiders, landscape designers, outdoor structure builders,etc. Very much local service based businesses. Thanks
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