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Old 11-08-2009, 04:02 PM   #1
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Do not ask for review copies of WSO's unless the person selling the WSO has offered them.

Please stop this immediately. If it continues the people doing it will be deleted from the forum.

Enough is enough. On some WSO's almost the entire first page of the thread is people asking for review copies when none were offered.
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Old 11-08-2009, 04:16 PM   #2
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Thanks for starting that. I just launched a WSO this morning and thought I was suddenly transported to another "Notorious" forum in this industry....

Appreciate the game changer!

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Yes!

Thanks so much for posting this new rule Allen. I was wondering when someone was going to do something about the huge surplus of warriors asking for a review copy. (I swear I only did it once )
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Old 11-08-2009, 04:21 PM   #4
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Fantastic news!

I'm really pleased this is enforced
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Default Re: STOP ASKING FOR REVIEW COPIES!!

Phew! I've been chastising people for this

Now, I just need to point them here instead.

Thanks again Allen "One Step Ahead" Says.

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Old 11-08-2009, 04:23 PM   #6
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Default Re: STOP ASKING FOR REVIEW COPIES!!

Thanks a million, Allen!

Just for the sake of thoroughness, does this only apply to people ASKING for unsolicited review copies? We can still OFFER them, correct?

Thanks again. Man, that was annoying.

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Old 11-08-2009, 04:24 PM   #7
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I'm one who asked for a review copy a few times, and I stopped after I realized how annoying this is. Sorry for that I agree that this rule is good, and in line with the other rule that you can only post an opinion about the WSO's quality after you've bought it.
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Old 11-08-2009, 04:35 PM   #8
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Default Re: STOP ASKING FOR REVIEW COPIES!!

And I thought I was the only one that was noticing that lol.....I have never ask for review copy and feel that if the product/service is worth it, then pay for it. No less it's a WSO so your saving already.

KARMA is a bitch lol, keep asking for stuff for free and your clients will also.

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Old 11-08-2009, 04:44 PM   #9
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Amen!!!!!!!!!!!



And you can quote me on that!
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Old 11-08-2009, 05:45 PM   #10
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Glad to see this I just put my fist WSO last night and i got 5 messages asking for a review copy? kind of ticket me off lol

Thanks for this post
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Old 11-08-2009, 06:37 PM   #11
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Thanks for that rule..WSO's are cost effective on their own and if people are in the internet business they should treat it as such..
It is a business and there is always a cost of doing business.
If it is a free lunch, it generally is at the soup kitchen..
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Old 11-08-2009, 07:03 PM   #12
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Thank you Last time I launched a WSO my PM box was full of review copy requests - felt like I was in DP not WF
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Old 11-08-2009, 07:19 PM   #13
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Thanks Allen

You must have known that I had a product coming.

I will deal with the review issue (honest reviews only) before it is even posted that way people will know where they stand.

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Thank you Allen. I support this move 100%. Folks have to pay for their WSO's and unless they are specifically offering free copies, we need to quit seeking freebies. WSO's are already supposed to be discounted (some very heavily), so why not help the Warrior out and accept his/her already generous offer? I you don't think the product is worth the WSO, it's simple, just don't buy it!

Let's see . . . I'd like to have a review copy of a BMW 535 . . . anybody got one?
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Smash freebie hunters!
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can i have a review seriously tho,there was a guy about a month ago who had asked for a review in every wso i looked at. I'm glad you've sorted this out!!!!!!!!!!!
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Thank you for that!

I think it is dammed rude.
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Old 11-09-2009, 04:21 AM   #18
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I was getting to feel I was in another forum where this practice is done

thanks for the rule

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Old 11-09-2009, 05:48 AM   #19
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Good work - if I want reviews I will send them out and ask for them myself!
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Old 11-09-2009, 09:18 AM   #20
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can i have a review seriously tho,there was a guy about a month ago who had asked for a review in every wso i looked at. I'm glad you've sorted this out!!!!!!!!!!!
I think I know the guy you are talking about. It was really starting to annoy me, too!

Another approach, for those individuals offering WSO's who want to get reviews, is what happened to me recently. A fellow warrior saw my participation in a thread about a similar WSO I had purchased, and sent me a PM offering a review copy. He knew that it was something that I was already interested in, and that he would get his review from me. I thought that was a good idea.
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Old 11-09-2009, 10:11 AM   #21
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I Love this RULEZZ!

Cheers,
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Old 11-09-2009, 10:16 AM   #22
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Thanks Allen,

You came through for the Warriors still again. This is good news. Those "can I have a review copy," posts really slowed down many a good WSO.

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Old 11-09-2009, 11:42 AM   #23
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Great decision, Allen!
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Old 11-09-2009, 12:35 PM   #24
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Thanks for this. Freebie requests are becoming very tiresome. Most WSO's are priced very fairly.

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Old 11-09-2009, 12:48 PM   #25
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Thanks for implementing this rule! For as much as I like to offer review copies, it would be better that Warriorforum to have this rule!
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Old 11-09-2009, 01:30 PM   #26
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I adore this rule. Free things are always nice, but when it comes down to products that are designed to make you money in some way shape or form, you're going to appreciate it more (and MAYBE even act on it) if you spend your hard earned money on it. Getting a good product for free really devalues it in my opinion...
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Some of the requests are just goofballs - but others are responding again and again to the seller advertising "5 free review copies" IN his WSO. Clearly people can't count to five

I think sellers could help by asking for reviews before running the WSO - instead of using the offer to get posting activity for the WSO.
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I think sellers could help by asking for reviews before running the WSO - instead of using the offer to get posting activity for the WSO.
Probably one of the best ideas.

Maybe seller should summit the chosen number of review copies to be given to the one handling the WSO alerts/WSO of the day.., and let them chose WHO to give the set number of review copies to.

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Thank god this is becoming a rule. I haven't even done a WSO and I get annoyed by them.
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Old 11-09-2009, 11:31 PM   #30
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Thanks for this rule Allen! The recent changes have really kept Warrior Forum a great place to be!
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Old 11-09-2009, 11:36 PM   #31
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I've never done a WSO but I do find it funny when others are asking for review copies.
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This is a very reasonable rule, as being offered a 'review copy' is a privilege available for long-term members with very good reputations, who can give reviews the rest of us will trust.

I have been surprised lately by the amount of brand new members who were scouring the WSO asking / demanding / pleading, for free review copies of everything for sale on the forum - as someone above here said, just wasting space on the thread for people who are reading the posts looking for actual reviews before they buy (although lately I have found glowing reviews by 'respected' members for rubbish that I only bought because of their reviews ...grrrr).

Now I wonder when Allan will look into the stupid and annoying claims being made on some WSO titles --- if one more 'guarantees' that I will make over one thousand dollars a day, every day, if anyone buys their chopped up and inadequate bits of information, I will gag!

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At last! Now I can put the weapon away.
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Probably one of the best ideas.

Maybe seller should summit the chosen number of review copies to be given to the one handling the WSO alerts/WSO of the day.., and let them chose WHO to give the set number of review copies to.

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This is actually something I am working on, so I definitely think it is a good idea.

Basically, it will let the visitors to the thread know how many review copies are left in real-time. It will also allow seller to only give review copies to a pre-selected list of people, as well.

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Default Re: STOP ASKING FOR REVIEW COPIES!!

Allen,

Thanks! It's not just being done with the new WSOs. I've recieved over a hundred review requests for a product I put up as a WSO in the old forum. These people are using the PM system to get the job done behind the scenes.


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Some of the requests are just goofballs - but others are responding again and again to the seller advertising "5 free review copies" IN his WSO. Clearly people can't count to five

I think sellers could help by asking for reviews before running the WSO - instead of using the offer to get posting activity for the WSO.
I agree with you Kay, the people wanting to get reviews for their WSO should be doing that before the WSO goes live - not in the main discussion forum either unless it is a special circumstances like beta testing software or something where the seller/owner/developer needs more than 5 people involved. There are other ways of contacting people to ask them to review something instead of cluttering up the main forum. The testimonials would probably be moe authentic this way too.
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Mike -

Don't forget to account for the fact that not all sellers offer any review copies. I'd hate to see any program that gave the impression that anyone is "entitled" to a review of any product.

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Finally, someone is doing something about it.

Thanks Allen.

I've seen WSO's with a whole page dedicated to review copies when the seller has clearly noted that they have all been given out or there isn;t any available.

"Great minds think alike"
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HINT: If you get banned for asking for too many review copies, and then decide to get a new account at the forum, it may be a good idea to NOT post in a thread about it.

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Finally, someone is doing something about it.

Thanks Allen.

I've seen WSO's with a whole page dedicated to review copies when the seller has clearly noted that they have all been given out or there isn;t any available.

"Great minds think alike"
Shades of "Twilight Zone" and Rod Serling!

This is akin to an arsonist standing outside a burning building as the fire trucks roll up.

Elmer

PS. Unless, of course, a user name has been co-opted...
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Finally, someone is doing something about it.

Thanks Allen.

I've seen WSO's with a whole page dedicated to review copies when the seller has clearly noted that they have all been given out or there isn;t any available.

"Great minds think alike"
Ummmm...you're KIDDING, right? Because nobody is THAT dense.
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Mike -

Don't forget to account for the fact that not all sellers offer any review copies. I'd hate to see any program that gave the impression that anyone is "entitled" to a review of any product.

kay
Kay,

Of course, that goes without saying. Clearly it will be for the sellers that opt to use review copies.

I think it will be most effective for those sellers who are new to the forum and don't have enough trust built up. It can really help them get going, as long as they have a good product to offer.

Plus, the way I am implementing it is a bit different than how it is usually done, so it will also greatly increase the quality and credibility of reviews that are given.

Win-win-win, that is my motto for everything I release, and this will be no exception.

Stay tuned!

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