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Old 11-11-2010, 02:11 AM   #1
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The Gurus Exposed! Listen To This Uncut & Uncensored Webinar That Finally Reveals The Truth!


Hey Guys,

So I ran a live webinar on the 21st November which was a great success, over $5000 in prizes were given away and we exposed some of the biggest guru secrets out there.

Now unfortunatly I had only booked 100 seats for the webinar and didn't expect the mad rush of sign up's so over 200 people missed out on the live call.

So what I have done is uploaded the recording of the webinar so you can listen to it free:

This was a really great call that lasted almost 2 hours and you can listen to it 100% free with no opt-in or anything right now.

We covered SO much stuff, to many to list here but here are just a few of the highlights:

  • Some of the biggest guru tricks are revealed (we were NOT allowed to reveal this stuff in the forum)
  • A step by step gameplan that you can use right now to make money online (I could literally charge $100's for this gameplan)
  • How to avoid the guru traps
  • All of your questions answered LIVE
  • Plus heaps more

There are no strings attached here, just good quality content and since a lot of people have been asking me where they can listen I thought I would make it available to everyone.

LISTEN NOW

By the way please leave your comments under the webinar link as I would love to hear your thoughts

Hope you enjoy!

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Tristian, this is crazy i really want to learn about internet marketing, i am a newb and have not spent any money as such on any programs but i do have some Crazzee guru overwhelm issues. I have so many different ideas in my head i just need to get them all out and use them. I'm, going to comment on your vids so far and look forward to the call on the 21st will be eager to learn more. thanks heaps.

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Ok i'll be the first with a quick story about my GURU OVERWHELM and my tip:

I really started looking into the internet marketing scene about 2 years ago, i could see the real potential to help quite my day job (working as a Mechanic). I saw an advertisement in the Sunday Times it was a full Page Ad, it was promoting "HOW TO MAKE MONEY WHILE YOU SLEEP" and if you were in Western Australia at that particular time and you saw that exact advertisement you would know that i'm talking about Brett McFall. I travelled 2 hours from where i live (Bunbury, W.A or Bunno if your talkin Aussie slang) i was really excited and i couldn't sleep the night before because i really thought i was going to make money easily, but anyway got to the seminar at the Burswood Grand Ball Room, there were all these people waiting to go in everyone was excited, we all went in and sat down, Brett McFall comes out and starts his seminar, he taught us a few things but never really told us too many things, he just kept on talking about the same thing but in different words. At the end of the 8 hour seminar they had a sales pitch, for like $4000 that included a turn key business and 1 on 1 coaching, everyone around me was like flies on crap, they had there credit cards out and signed there 4k away like that. They even offered a PAYMENT plan for the LESS FORTUNATE who could not afford it at the time.

The sad thing was that all these people were trying to find the next BIG thing so they too could make a sqwillion dollars overnight and they were willing to give up there hard earned cash

It really made me sick to see all these people bamboozled and literially giving so much cash away. All the information that they taught went in one ear and out the other, once i saw them taking all this money from people. So in the end i travelled another 2 hours back home and thought to myself "What a friggin waste of a day" I really felt for those people who handed over their cash for something they hope they too can make money with. That is how i first became Guru Overwhelmed

So probably the best tips i can offer is to FOCUS on ONE thing at a time and set up a simple plan and stick to it. Another thing is to set GOALS that you can EASILY achieve so you can see progress. If you FOCUS on one thing at a time you wont be trapped into thinking you need the next BIG Money Making thing from the GURUS. Sometimes being simple is they key. I really look forward to the next thing that Tristian brings out, i may even get some coaching from Tristian cos he sounds like a top bloke, but i spose only time will tell.

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I am Pankaj, 20 from India...I am trying something online to help my dad financially as we r in some bad finance conditions..

Hiee tristan….
thanx for coming up with such stuff now as recently we see a lot of bad guru stuff being sold online…i mean these marketers don’t even care to change the swipe files for promotion….recently for some products i got the same email n i mean exactly same email from all big dogs….n now i have unsubscribed from all of them..actually i don’t have a credit card as my dad lost his job recently..so could not purchase anything online…n i thnk it was a good thing for me not having a crdit card coz i would have purchased all the crap if i had a credit card…
anyways thanx for coming up with this stuff...lets blow this big gurus off




I would just like to tell all the people to use their own brains so as not to get into guru's crap....i mean how can you believe in some guy who says you'll make $$$$$$$ amount of money in 1 day...n y would a person sell his secrets or give away aladdin's lamp for a few bucks..dats pretty insane..

Just a few tips to avoid Guru Overwhelm..Few steps to avoid guru crap
1. I don't like when a marketer's email subject starts
with "Re:". This is his attempt to make me think that
we have an ongoing conversation.Feels like i am getting personal attention n rest is story the.... :P

2. I don't like when a marketer lies about the number of
products that he is selling. For example, a few weeks ago,
the number one selling ClickBank product of the week had
on its website in big bold letters "Only 250 copies will be
sold". Really? then how the heck did it become the best
selling product of the week! Liar!

3.. I don't like marketers that send out promos and call
everybody that they promote their "friend". For instance,
"My good friend (Some Big Guru Name) has a new video that you should
see." If he is your friend, then fine. If he's not, don't
try and pretend that you are the center of some inner circle
that doesn't exist!

4.Hate the latest trend for selling software craps
Step1)Download our software n install
Step2)Run the software on your PC (obviously v r gonna run on our pc not our neighbours pc but still they say your pc..i mean is there some kind of marketing cycology....hope there is not :P)
Step3)Count piles of money everyday

5.Always remember if you are purchasing some software be sure what exactly it does...ask them for demo video or else don't get the software....i mean pretty recently there r a lot of softwares coming out claiming to be the nxt big miracle and what it actually is a article submitter and a book marker.. :P
So be aware

Interested in knowing other people's opinions on Guru Overwhelm

Thanx and take care
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Really great job on videos Tristan, awesome stuff.

I use to be exactly same, buying all different e-courses and learning hours and hours every day. I was addicted over a year. I spend around $1500 per month, just on ebooks and courses. True, i learned a lot, but lost also. I still feel bad when i look back and think about it.


I didn't make any money online before that. I tried different things yes, but no money for me. Just because i was focusing on making money. Just to make xxxx amount in xxx days. I think its just wrong.

For example: You set yourself goal to earn $1000 in 30 days. Lets say you fail to reach this goal. Next time you are going to put less effort in, because you failed last time. You feel disappointed. Less effort, means less results. Less results....well...even more disappointment. Everything repeats. Overall...you fail.

Once i got rid of this money thing and focused on action and progress, i started seeing great results.

Example here: You set yourself goal to write 100 articles. Not in 30 days, but just to write them. You submit all at once and see results (traffic, hopefully sales). Your motivation and mood goes up, as you see results. Next time, you are going to put in more effort, as you got some results. More effort, more results. More results...more motivation and great feelings. And at the end...you are going to make money.

I joined Tristan personal coaching about 6 months ago. Even it was 12 week program, i'm still doing it. I don't want to rush and finish everything in 90 days or so. It's like a rehab for me. Im not addicted to buying different products anymore. Since then i haven't bought not a single ebook or e-course. Learning and reading won't get you anywhere...actions do.

What Tristan is doing is just amazing. Specially Guru Overwhelm videos and he is giving them out for free. You rock man.

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Tristan,

I watched the videos you have out so far. Overall, I thought they were good and insightful. I must admit that I don't agree with everything you said in the videos, but I do agree with the basics.

In fact, I have had the same experience in my on internet marketing journey. Not too long ago, actually, I was guilty of "guru overload." I think I was probably subscribed to around 30 "gurus." I went and read all of their emails and must admit that I purchased quite a few products, most of which never worked.

I jumped from the next big thing to the next always looking for that silver bullet. Unfortunately, it always seemed that once I got one product, I needed to buy another for the system to really work. Then there was another missing piece I needed to buy. It seemed I was never getting anywhere.

I did some thinking and really examined what I wanted and how I was going about it. I remember reading something Eben Pagan wrote. He said that when he started, he was working from a computer in his bedroom and kept trying things until he found out what worked. (My paraphrase)

When I read this a light bulb went off and I realized something I had never thought about before. All the gurus had one thing in common. They all had to work hard to figure out how to get started and make money online.

That was my "Screw the Guru" moment. I knew then that I was going to have to actually figure out how internet marketing works. Things like article marketing, SEO, Blog comments, list swaps, etc. I would never learn how to be successful if I just followed a guru and bought his products.

It seemed to me that he "gurus" (not everyone, but you know who you are) intentionally kept back information I needed to know so I would be trapped into buying more of their programs or at least their $10,000 coaching.

Once I figured all this out, I did several things.

First, I unsubscribed from almost everyone's list. I am still on a few list, but I only use them to build up my swipe file of email headers. (Sorry guys, I'm not buying anything from you.)

Second, I sat down and figured out my goals. And how I would meet them. I did not do it exactly like Tristan outlines in the second video, the method was similar. I broke my goal down into much smaller and manageable pieces. The pieces were small enough that I could manage them.

For example, if my goal is to make $10,000 a month, I can't make that happen right now, but to make it happen I know that I need to build my list. To build my list I can write and submit articles with a link to a squeeze page. So now my goal is to write one article a day and submit it.

I took everything down to this level.

Third, I made lists. Lots of list. I have a family and want to work online so I can spend more time with them. My list keep me focused and on track. I wrote out a list for each day of the week.

Monday is an article and forum posts.
Tuesday is an article and blog commenting
You the idea I hope.

I then wrote out weekly lists. And a monthly checklist. As I do each activity I check it off. When I finish the checklist, I quit. I either go play with my kids, or play with my wife. I take the time to read marketing forums like this one.

I still look for products that can help me work faster and smarter. I will read some sales pages and even some WSOs. I rarely by anything now. I usually stay away from the free one too, because they are just another distraction I don't need.

I signed up for this one because it looked interesting and it said what I had recently discovered on my own. I wanted to see if another expert was going to be honest, or if this was all a ploy to sell a high end product to us at the end. Only time will tell about that one.

BTW, for those of you that care. Since I have fired all the gurus and stopped spending money, I only spend my time working on traffic. I have dozens of websites, but I chose to concentrate on only three.

One builds me a list. One is a huge content site for adsense. The last is a new review site for an Amazon product.
  • I have seen my list double in size. It is still small, but not as small as before.
  • I have seen my adsense income quadruple.
  • I have seen my new site go from unranked up to page 3 and 4 of Google for some keywords. This site did this within two weeks.
I know that for some of you reading this, these accomplishments will not seem impressive. And compared to some people I know, they are not that impressive. I mean I am not getting $100,000 Adsense checks delivered to my door.

But this is proof to me that my ideas work and I will keep doing them until I reach my goals, be that in 3 months or 3 years.

To others of you, especially if you are frustrated because you can't make money online, do yourself a favor and watch these videos. They explain it better than I can in this short post.

Follow this list and you can succeed. It will just take hard work until you earn enough to outsource all the boring sh**.

  1. Unsubscribe from everyone's newsletter.
  2. Make a list with daily activities you need to do. No email, facebook, or forums until you are finished. (This includes this forum.)
  3. Work on getting traffic. That is all. No new blogs. No clickbank super duper special destroyer stealth fly under the radar autoblogging method. Just TRAFFIC.
  4. Repeat the traffic step again and again. Never stop.

If I can do it so can you. Now get out there and take action.

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Sir
i really liked your plan and steps.....but we should not unsubscribe from every newsletter.... coz some very few people(obviously not big gurus but people who make a consistent income online) really give away valuable content for free which is better than gurus crap....also i don't have a list now but what i plan to do is like we can create 1 seperate email id and subscribe to these big gurus so that we can get to know about their latest email subjects lines etc....
thanx again n take care
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Hi there, it's Rom here and first of I have to say that by doing what you're doing Tristan you are revealing allot of truth which is great for all of us, I think that many of us think that way but never have the bravery to expose it like you are now, so thanks for that.

Having said that I think that we have to be able to differentiate between overload and guru overwhelming, we have to be careful about what this overload word really means, yes I do agree with Guru overwhelming in the sense that what the so called gurus are doing is exactly what Tristan is explaining which is manipulating peoples minds and making us believe all that B.S. about us needing always more and hence spending more, but this doesn't have to be confused with the overload of information that so many people think are victims of, I don't believe in overload and I don't believe in the fact that we could have tooooo much information, you don't walk inside a book store and faint, ho my God information overload, no, is not like that, when you walk inside a book store you just go to the section that interests you and pick up what you need, and so you should do with your hard drive and all the info you have in it, just be selective and use it the best you can, you can never learn enough and that's a fact, so this brings us back to the new guru course coming out, we have to be able to look at it from a critical point of view, without actually believing that this new purchase will make us rich, but be able to evaluate the information you will get from that new course and if you really think that you have a gap in knowledge, and funding permitting, then buy it and carry on building on your knowledge, Rome wasn't build overnight.

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Tristan

These video's are a refreshing change and make a real statement about how we should all be doing more doing and less buying.

When we do buy we need to think about the product and whether it will really help, and does it apply to our process and game plan, no lets just buy because of the hype or think we will use it in the future and then it just collects dust on our hard drive.

Never forget your starting a business and not a spend money for anything related to internet marketing hobby. Find a partner and read the forum about what others are buying and what works.
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Hi Tristan,

I commented on the videos the other day the videos so far as I can tell are there to show here is the truth money can be made and is made daily but the way your being led to believe how it is done is wrong and is geared to take your money out of your pockets not put money into them. The videos are very good so far .

Best thing I can suggest to anyone is to make a plan and work the plan.
there is nothing in this world that is going to give you the easy answer.
My wife and I were scammed a few times but I am a persistent man and I am on a mission to "slap em back" and I will
The main things for anyone to begin to make money online is :
Make a plan- develop a plan with what you want to do. what skills you have what you want to do with those skills online and how they can benefit people-your target market

Once you made a plan then you need to research-what are other people doing in this area.
how much are they charging.
is what they are charging bringing sales. if so why. and how can you replicate what they are doing.
Don't buy anything until you have a solid plan with the research behind it know your demographic understand your market and you will then be able to bring a product to that market with a better chance of success rather then bouncing from one idea/product to the other



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Hi Tristan,
I've been online for about 3 years and have not made a penny.Back then I had great expectations,tons of enthusiasm,a full credit card and a job.Time passes,my card emptied,a hard drive full of crap,not much enthusiasm,and no job.I had pretty much given up on the internet.Your videos were like a breath of fresh air and have inspired me.The stange coincidence is that back then I received emails about a coaching series you were doing.I ignored them because I had not heard of you,thought it was expensive,and I thought what does someone so young know.Big mistake.I hope your videos spread like wildfire to all people looking at the internet as a means of realising a living,to stop falling for all the crap being falsely shoved at us by these self appointed gurus.I hope that your honesty is copied.
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Tristan,
The address you used in your email to me to day gets returned as undeliverable.
Would you be good enough to pm me here as I don't have sufficient posts yet.
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Already after the first 2 videos I feel a big weight has been lifted off!
What I've learned so far, is to not worry sooooo much, and to concentrate on 2 things only:
Traffic and conversions!

Thanks Tristan!
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I'm already in your coaching program, so I think I will just focus on that for now
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Great videos, Tristan!

Not getting sucked in by the tons of mails I got everyday from the lists I had opted-in to was a pain, until I started following a structured approach.

I try to be selective with the lists I opt-in to. I assume that I don't need to read every piece of content written daily about anything concerning IM, I'd need to clone myself (twice) to do that. So I only opt-in to lists closely related to where I am in my IM endeavour.

But I still opt-in to some. Here's what I do later:

1 - I commit myself to receiving and reading every mail they send me for like... two weeks.

2 - After reading them each day, I delete those that add no value (rehashed content, nonsenses, blatant promotions...) and I keep the "good ones".

3 - After these two weeks, when I receive another mail from him/her, if they've been writing frequently -which most IMers usually do- I look for other mails by the same person in my inbox. If there's none, or very few, it means most of what they've sent me has been crap, so I unsubscribe.

4 - If, when I look back, I see several of his mails that I decided to keep, it means this person has been delivering good content. THEN I start focusing on his name, what he/she does, the products he/she sells etc.

You'd be surprised to see how small my "list of people I follow" is.

But if they continue to be who they are, I know I'll be a close follower of people like Lee McIntyre, Kim Roach, Sean Donahoe, Sara Young, Natalie Myers, GT Bulmer, Scot Standke, and a few others, for a long time.

Hopefuly, Tristan Bull too :-)

P.S. I wonder what would happen if I followed this same process with e-mails sent not by IMers and their autoresponders, but by personal friends, with all their lolcatz and motivational/funny powerpoints; I'm afraid I might need to opt-out in a few cases
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Tristan,

I finished up the first two videos and they were awesome in their approach, everything really does come down to Traffic and Conversions and everything else is secondary. It's good advice for everyone to get off some of these big guru lists especially those where you've bought those products and not benefited. I would go another step and say anyone that has one of these guru product that is all hype, go ahead and delete and get rid of this guru overwhelm that Tristan talks about.

The first Video - Overview
The first video really drove home the fact that gurus really are just playing alot of mind tricks one you preying on your every move and ready to shoot another custom tailored product to the frustrations you had from not meeting everything from the first product. Although there are a few that I actually admire that have helped made money, there are others where their course was just hype and crap, i've even a few of these lurking on the warrior forum before they were banned. Jeff Walker, Frank Kearn and Rich Schefren are some of the bigger names that i actually admire although the first two really do some compelling things to pull out your wallet.

Video Two - Setting Goals that you can't reach
Many people here would do well to stop trying to reach almost unattainable goals that the gurus talk about. I think its great how Tristan talks about setting small objectives that help you reach very realistic goals even though it's gonna take some work! If you think you will reach $9000 in two days with no real work or experience, you're waiting for pie in the sky. I really liked this video and I chunk out my goals as something measurable and taking small action steps to accomplish.

Hopefully, I will get on the free coaching and best thing is, Tristan has been where many of those that will be on the call as well. So, I don't believe he will be spouting off at the mouth about things he hasn't actually accomplished like many gurus.

Tristan's first vids should be considered as paramount and required to view before anyone embarks on an information marketing business. If more people had to do this, I bet they would alot further ahead and not so taken by the addictions of the shiny new product syndrome that he will talk about in vid 3.

Kudos Tristan, as this has been a higher quality product than quite a few paid ones that i've gone through myself.
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Hey Tristan I would just like to say thank you the videos really hit the nail on the head. It was just like you were reading about me. I have been at this since May 2009 with nothing to show for it because I have been doing just like you said in your videos.

It is laid out very careful from the guru's, and even with me knowing this I still find myself going right back doing the same ole bouncing around from one email to another hoping that I will find the one that is going to solve my bouncing from one to another.

The only way im going to do any better is to take some of your advice and break it down in to a list and stick to that list and if I take action I know it will work.Now it wont work over night but if a person stays on a schedule I believe in my heart you can be successful.
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My GURU OVERWHELM Story.

Ok, so you start out as a newbie by looking for a way to make money through internet marketing. You subscribe to a list and then receive an email giving you a message and link to buy the best "solution" to giving you instant financial freedom! You have a look at the offer and by the end of it you are hyped and buzzing with excitement at how much better your life will be by purchasing the product. You think, WOW. You buy the course and then what? Where do I start? What should I do? I need help. All of a sudden you receive more emails about the next best "solution" (free report, software, program, etc).

Before you know it you have a zillion emails cluttering your inbox with the biggest (launch) to hit the internet marketing arena. So you buy the next best program or software that is instantly going to solve all your internet marketing problems. You set goals but never end up completing them because of the time involved and then the next best offer (solution) arrives in your inbox. You become overwhelmed, discouraged and depressed.

INFORMATION OVERLOAD! Yes, if this is or has been you, STOP! You are or have been OVERWHELMED by the GURUS. You need a mentor/coach who is going to guide through your IM journey.

Reality Strikes! You realise that you have bought all these products and wasted so much time and money because all the great products you have bought lack one thing. A coach! Oh, and traffic. Without traffic you have the boat but no paddle to go anywhere.

There are so many different paths to take with IM so a coach is a "Must Have". Why? A coach will keep you on track with your goals and you will stay focused.

My advice? Watch the free guru overwhelm video's as they have valuable advice that you don't want to miss.

This is my story and I hope it helps you with your IM journey.
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I am glad you shared the Guru Overhelm videos and here's what i got out of it

The Problem
1.You would never succeed if you are being tossed around in so many directions : The "Gurus" tell you SEO one day and the next day the say come up with another shiny object like facebook .they all promise to make you instant money and you buy the product and just before you get the chance to execute on what you bought , the same guru emails you another iressitible offer and you keep buying and buying seeing any of the promises made to you materialise

Most people are signed up to many people list and i know when i started out i wanted to know everything there was to know about making money online but it never got me anywhere . Apart from the first product i bought that made me money ,I just keep it on buying product after product and finding out that the methods just don't work

The solution

Not too long ago , i was over 20 people email list and once i log in to my email , i would be hit with so many free presentation that it took over most of my day

as you can imagine , it was very difficult for me to focus .

So , i decided to unsubscribe from everybody list and focus on building my business . No more new tricks , no money miracle software that would save me .there is no miracle software that would solve my money problems .
I am my own miracle software .

So , my advice to you is that you
1. Be on only one persons list if at all

2.Focus on one skill and MASTER it before moving on to another ( that means that if you are yet to make moneywith youtube , you have no business learning about making money with facebook .)

P.S love the presentation , how did you create the visual aspect of it
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Wow, this is real live person who talks sense! yes yes yes, a real person with real advice - I have been so over hyped I practically need to go onto Ritalin.

Hope I can achieve the goals I am setting without buying any more new shiny things
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OH yes and stop buying all those new products, everything you need is already available.
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I watched both of your videos and I agree with most of what you said. I've bought "big fancy box of stuff" courses from "gurus" and attended my share of pitch-fest seminars where the presenter begins with a 30 minute bragfest showing you pictures of all the expensive stuff that he owns and the exotic places where he goes on vacation. This is followed by 30 minutes of common sense motivational speaker rhetoric with a 30 minute pitch for the $4k product they are offering to the first 15 people who meet him at the back of the room.

But overloading is a clever trick because it keeps you confused which means you have to learn more (from them or their buddies). They always tell you to take "massive action" but taking massive action when you are confused and don't know what you're doing is like trying to fly a plane for the first time just after reading several books each telling you a different right way to do it.

I see your point with "goal choking" about setting unrealistic goals in an unrealistic time frame because you were doped up by the "lifestyle button" that was pushed throughout the sales page. This sets you up for failure and despondency. But I feel that realistic monetary goals (even if you don't hit them every time you try) give you something to shoot for. Yes, I agree that you should set goals to complete certain tasks and that outcomes are not totally under our control but I think it is beneficial to keep the ultimate reason for performing those tasks in mind in order to stay motivated.

Otherwise, it's kind of like playing soccer and performing the task of getting the ball past a bunch of defenders but not having a goal to kick the ball through once you do all that.

I think your main message of focusing on just traffic and conversions cuts through a lot of the clutter out there and is a solid plan for getting the job done because at the end of the day, that's all that matters.
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I watched both of your videos and I got very inspired about them. I even started to make my own internet business. I haven't take any courses yet and now I'm sure I won't take any. I'm not gonna base on some guru who might rob me my last money. Only thing what matters are actions - actions to your objectives, to your goals. Thank you for sharing some great thought with me Tristan.
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Okay Tristan I'll write a little something.

I don't think there's a Joe online that hasn't been overloaded and overwhelmed with all the weekly launches and internet courses that promise to build you an Empire and make you a million bucks in no time flat. Anyone who really believes all that hype and utter BS and continues to buy all these courses gets what they deserve. An empty bank account. That's me, the biggest dummy online! The biggest sucker of all time! The gurus love me. I'm like a crow I just can't resist a bright shiny object.

Guess what I'm really tempted to pick up right now even thought I've watched your two thought provoking videos? Link Liberation! Guess what's
stopping me? The bloody price! Saved by the bell! Yep I'd give my eye teeth to learn the best way to get some decent traffic! If there's one thing I've learned, no traffic, no sales and no bank account! Got a couple of good looking sites though. My friends and family think I'm such a clever dude.

Of course we all know that you are also trying to sell something Tristan. You have an original way of positioning yourself with the interesting guru bashing concept. I thought the Warrior Forum frowned on such tactics. Anyway I like it. What a lot of fun! Everyone needs a good laugh every now and then and I must admit I really enjoyed your videos!

Actually I like some of the gurus. Frank Kern is my favorite even though I haven't spent a dime on his stuff. Frank is not only easy on the eyes, but is extraordinarily charismatic and funny. I've learned a lot from these guru types and have been thoroughly entertained as well. Talk about an addiction! Yep, you could say I'm addicted. I've wasted so much time on these product launches just like I'm doing right now by writing this article for you instead of putting up another blog on my site. I guess you could call me a no hoper!

What did I say I needed? Oh yes traffic! Maybe I should spend 150 bucks a month on Linkvana. I thought seriously about doing this, that's of course until I listened to Lesley of Link Liberation. You see how totally confused I am?
Oh dear, what can the matter be....

So what do I think of your videos? I listened to them and then clicked on my email and took the Link Liberation guys up on their free offer to listen to the first module of their course! Some people will never learn! You'll be proud of me though because I still didn't sign up. Those damn guru overwhelm videos must've some how gotten under my skin.

Oh me oh my!

So what do I think about setting goals? I think it's a great idea. In fact I'm pretty good at setting realistic goals like making $300,000 by the end of the year. Good luck with that one!

Gee, I hate these guru types that run contests, don't you? Come to think of it I hate membership sites, upsells, downsells, back and front end sales. These deceitful tactics have saved me from pushing the "add to cart" button on many occasion and wasting all my hard earned cash. Of course if you're on the other end of the stick and you're the guru it's a helluva great gig!

Where to now? You tell me! I'm busy trying to get some decent articles written at an affordable price. Anyone got any brainwaves with this one?

Keep the videos coming Tristan. I'm listening.

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Information overwhelm is not really the problem. It is sheer BS overwhelm from so many prominent marketers that confuses and deceives so many.

Get a grip...

Cut out most of the noise by unsubscribing from most of your promo letters - they are not news letters or mini courses they are junk mail.

Work out what your skills are and what life experience you have and build your business on it.

Choose a business model that suits your skills.

Write an action plan to implement your model. Anything outside your action plan you can totally ignore.

Do it! Follow your plan and make small course corrections as you go. Get tuition if you need it but only for particular skills you need at the time.

All The Best

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Excellent stuff guys

Really enjoying all your comments!

They are also really helpful to everyone which I love.

This is awesome, together we can help us all succeed.

Don't forget to mark the 21st of November on your calendar because that is when we will be doing the free call.

So have your questions ready and make sure qualify for the cash prizes.

Really looking forward to the call, I am hoping to see all of you there!

Keep the responses coming

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By the way I know some of you have already asked questions here and on the video blog I have noted them down and I will make sure to answer everyone on the live call.

But stay tuned for the release of the next video because it goes into something that WE ALL suffer from (especially people at the warrior forum) so make sure to keep checking here and your emails for when the next video is released.

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I signed up fpr the video series , but all I received was the introduction video...How do I get to the other 4 videos to view and comment on them ?
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I signed up fpr the video series , but all I received was the introduction video...How do I get to the other 4 videos to view and comment on them ?
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You probably should remove your email from the post now.
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I definitely got lost in the hype that gets tossed around in this field. I couldn't resist some of the systems at first- but I was driving myself broke instead of getting anywhere. And this was before I think the gurus got completely out of hand with their overpriced products that simply can't get you there in the way they promise. You won't build your internet empire in a week- it's a job and you have to work.

That said, I've learned a lot from the gurus. The trouble is that many of them see us as targets- and the truth is that we're perfect targets. From what I've learned about selecting a niche, a good niche is one where there are a lot of people, there are emotional triggers to buy, and the people spend time and money online. I can't think of a better niche than other internet marketers- we fit that bill perfectly.

I've started to have some success by doing what one of the gurus off-handedly suggested at one point. Actually- I learned it best from my college roommate. I noticed that he stopped working every day at about 6:00 and started hanging out with friends, playing video games, playing the drums, etc. And his thesis was getting done faster than mine. I asked him how he did it, and he made this point. When all my friends were at the library, we'd take long coffee breaks, or hang out and bemoan our overload of work. My roommate stayed inside and worked. Then at 5:00, he came home and chilled out. That focus got him ahead.

I realized that the same thing was happening to me again. Instead of thesis, though, it was website. I have six of them. And until a month or two ago, none of them were any good. So I decided to focus on two projects and plan which one I would work on each week- and only work on that one. Now I see all my benchmarks- visitors, conversions, sales, etc., going up. But even better than that, I like my websites now. I'm proud of them- and when you're not, it's hard to motivate yourself to drive traffic to them. If you don't feel proud of what you've created, why would you want someone else to see it? Now I get excited when I hear a news story about my niche- and I get excited to get home and post about it. And it's all because of focus. Too much time on half-baked ideas left me spinning my wheels- but now I make a clear list and follow it. Maybe it's, "today I will write two articles." It's not a big goal, but when it's done, my website is a little more valuable. If I do this every day, I soon have a really good product that I want to show my friends- and the rest of the world.


So I say kudos for calling out this one. I do have a question for you. How are you going to do this?

My thought is this: your launch is definitely following marketing principles, as a good launch should. And it does seem like your information thus far has been good at getting past hype. But it's still internet marketing to other internet marketers. So how do you set yourself apart? I see many IMers get some success and then when they realize they're a recognized name, start acting like the gurus. It's a specious temptation- you have a list, so why not make a grundle of money promoting whatever comes your way?

You definitely have my ear- and I hope you can do it. If you manage to provide the kind of information all the gurus should be giving us without becoming like them, we'll need a new title for you- internet sage or something. But you've set yourself up with a tremendous challenge- be one of the big boy IM teachers- but don't act with the moral turpitude that so many of them fall into.

My best wishes in the project- I hope you can pull it off- for you, for me, and for the other IMers. Having someone who is genuinely successful but doesn't fall into the traps that have left us all jaded would be a great asset here at the WF. So good luck! And I would love to hear how you're going to avoid the guru trap.
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Kool , I got everything now , Thanks..
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Hey all,

FREE AT LAST!, I say this b/c I can finally see some light at the end of the dark tunnel I was in. About time someone in the know had the balls & put their neck on the line and revealed all the b/s tricks going on in this industry. I'm SO ANGRY at myself, that I didn't see it coming before it was too late. I don't blame the Guru's I blame myself for being addicted.

I started looking into IM in 2003, thinking I would buy a couple of products and make myself some serious coin. Well after a few purchases, I thought to myself I'm still not at the level to make serious cash, BUT...if I buy some more products I then would surely be ready. Well up until a few days ago I was still buying friggen all the latest crap from the Guru's. (again, wasn't all crap, I'm just pissed off at myself.) I first realised I had a bit of a problem a couple of years back, when thinking I have already spend thousand's of $$$ on products over the years I should be ready now. I AM READY I told myself and tried to implement just one of the many strategies I had learned. But no matter how hard I tried, I just could not stop buying the next big thing on a daily basis. I am just lazy and haven't found the right product for me yet, I said to myself. So I NEED/HAVE to keep on buying products until I find the right product for me, and when I do....oh boy!, It would just feel right, I would stop buying products and naturally work on the product...or so I thought.......

A couple of years down the track here I am, still looking for the right product! When I got an email from Tristian talking about Guru Overwhelm, I thought awesome I need to look at this, and pulled out my credit card ready to fill out my details...Well by the end (embarrassed to say), I shed some tears. I couldn't believe the cold hard facts I heard, nor that this guy was not charging for it!!! I am 34 years old and have not been shaken up like this ever before by anyone in my life, let alone by a complete stranger over the internet!

To be honest I first heard of Tristian Bull when I recently forked out $500 for his one on one coaching while cruising WF. It has sat unseen on my laptop like a lot of the other stuff I have bought.

I have taken my first steps into fixing my addiction by unsubscribing to ALL other emails bar Tristian's. It has been hard the last few days to not buy anything, but I am determined not to buy anything else until I have mastered TRAFFIC & CONVERSIONS one step at a time...

From the bottom of my heart thank you Tristian, thank you for showing me the way out if this hell I've been in and giving me hope (my family thanks you also). I won't go into the details of how deeply addicted I was or how I completely turned my life upside down in 7 years or even how I unknowingly let it happen to myself. As telling you all that I cried after watching this Vid was embarrassing enough........

Cheers

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p.s PLEASE..... ANYONE THAT RELIGIOUSLY BUY'S THE LATEST GURU PRODUCTS AND WONDERS WHY THEY HAVE A DEEP NEED TO DO THIS OR WHY THE PRODUCTS JUST SIT ON YOUR PC OR EVEN THINK THEY STILL DON'T HAVE ENOUGH KNOWLEDGE TO MAKE IT IN THIS INDUSTRY.... ....PLEASE.... WATCH TRISTIAN BULL'S GURU OVERWHELM....IT MAY JUST CHANGE YOUR LIFE ;-)

p.p.s To you Tristian my true and only mentor, since the FREE Guru Overwhelm has changed my life, I cannot wait to get stuck into your one on one coaching nor wait for what it will bring me in the future, cheers mate.
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Hi vl2dy4 aka Conrad

I went to the same seminar you went to but here in Brisbane where I live.

Even though Brett does give you his complete system in the 8hrs you still need to fill in the gaps. If your not experienced then you need the $4000 course. Gee funny that.

This is why he travels all over the country because most people have no idea what a autoresponder or a splash page is. I was amazed. It's targeted to newbies.

It's harder to complete a product if you don't have a coach, but not impossible.

I still haven't done it.

That's why I bought Tristan's private coaching course.

Keep on keeping on Conrad

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Sometimes, I'm my own worst enemy! I'm definitely a victim of Guru Overload.
I've gotta' have the latest, the newest the best - immediately.

Thanks for opening my eyes. Now I can focus and a great weight seems to have
been lifted off.

Now its Traffic and Conversions to concentrate on! Not 20 other things!

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Nice posts,

Well, I am not very good at narrating but it has happened so many times to me(especially with WSOs). I thought I know everything and it was not really working when I saw the "BRAND NEW", "never seen before", "secret" method which.... doesn't work again.
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My "GURU OVERWHELM" Story

We had a family tragedy, the kind that you don't want to wake up or open the curtains. Our finances spiralled downward at warp speed. It was then I decided to create an income from home. I started a site and sold ebooks.

I decided I needed to get a better handle on things, so I joined what was supposed to be the best coaching online. Little did I know we were all guinee pigs, and they had no interest in helping us succeed. Yes I was part of that gazillion dollar launch. After a few months I was out of money, and had to unsubscribe.

After a few more of those, some $1000, $500 dollar.... courses I was pretty discouraged and gave it a rest. I joined a network marketing company and did pretty well for a couple years. I got tired of being on the phone for hours a day and let my business die out. I decided to try the internet once again.

I thought, now I am behind the learning curve and need to get up to speed, so I bought more "Guru Stuff". In fact I bought so much my head was spinning with knowledge while my wallet was empty.

Then it happened!

Everything collapsed and my house was now on the chopping block. It was then that I decided things had to change. I had accumulated a lot of "mind junk" that had kept me from making money like I did before I bought into the "guru overload".

I decided it was time to clean up, that was "the action" that changed everything for me. I did a few things that changed everything for me.
1. First, I loaded up my pickup truck, and I mean thousands and thousands of dollars worth of courses. DVD's, casette tapes, 3 ring binders, boxes and boxes of the top guru's, "mind stuff" on the net.
For a minute I thought, I could sell these on ebay and at least get some money back, then I thought, maybe I should give it away to someone struggling to make money. Let me tell you those thoughts were brief.
I had an overwhelming, eye opening aha moment, ad it was simple!
I thought, why would I "give" this to anyone when it has been the source of paralyzing me from taking the appropriate action to build a business on the net. I would not even consider "selling" it because I knew it would pulverize innocent people that wanted to help their families make ends meet.

So I was off to the dump. I took every box and dumped the contents out so nobody would find anything that made sense in tact. Now let me be clear, it was my fault for buying so much. Was there good stuff? Yes! But It was in scattered pieces and there were always upgrades, version 2,3,4.... on and on it goes.

You become a buyer rather than a seller. You don't make money until you sell. Like Tristen says, 2 things are important, "Traffic and Conversion". People buying from me!

2. After I got back from the dump, I took a second step that helped me out big time. When I got home I went to my computer and hit the "unsubscribe" button on all the lists I was on. Yep, I decided not to "rent" any more of my mind to "mind junk". Should everyone do this? I don't know, but this is what I did, and guess what. it worked!!!

I can't explain it but I began to think clearly again. Instead of thinking, what is the newest product, I began to think, what is the next step to build my business. So I began to feel like I was getting back on track, back to "creating an income" rather then "spending" like a mindless bumkin.

Now, here is where it all pays off.

3. I took the chicken and threw out the bone. Yep, I learned some stuff from all the "Guru Dump". Yes, I learned a lot and I intend on a little monetary revenge from all the moolah I spent on courses, seminars, memberships, ebooks... How? By offering people great content. Treating people the way I would like to be treated. It's all about people.

4. I stepped away from the computer. I wanted to get clear and get back to "simple". Over the next few weeks it was tempting to look at what new shiny stuff was launching. But I stuck to my guns, and stayed away from it all. In fact I quickly lost interest in "guru overload".

5. My wife and I decided to "work together". She gained an interest and we have teamed up to make a full time living online. Now I feel great about this business. It's great to have a partner that gets excited when we make a sale, figure something out, help somebody out, or finish a project. Sometimes we feel like doing the google rain dance.

OK, there's more but you get the idea, we are on the right track now.
Now I need to confess something. A few months ago I was on the warrior forum and saw Tristen's "Coaching Program". I thought, yea right! It bugged me all that night, until the next day I showed my wife his WSO. She was like wow, that sounds pretty good.

BUT

We decided against it because of what we had been through. Isn't that something, something good comes along and we passed on it.
Then Tristen decides he is fed up with "guru overload" and people being taken advantage of, and he decides to do something about it. Whoaaa could this really be true, I thought.

I watched the first video and "wham", it was like the lights came on all over again. It all made too waaay too much sense. I showed it to Sherry (my wife) when she got home and she went through the roof.

We are looking forward to the next video---oh, by the way, It's Free!
So, here's what Tristen has done for us. I just have a desire to help more people, and give more to people. My wife and I just talked about how we could help some newbies out with a simple plan to make money, free.
We are givers at heart and I think we are back on track with that, and it is very satisfying. Especially after having the stuffing knocked out of you by "takers".

So Here Is My Tip If You Are Suffering From "Guru Overwhelm":

"Stop Everything". Get away from your computer. Get clear on your "original Purpose" for deciding to make money online. Write out your plan, and start doing 2 things.

What two things?

Let me tell you about the power of being clear first. Vince Lombardi was asked by someone that said, "winning isn't everything". He was very clear on his goal. He said, "winning isn't everything, winning is the only thing".

There are only 2 things you need to make money, get clear on it:

You need, "Traffic, and Conversion". You do not need more info, better info, blah, blah, blah....

Am I against info? NO, NO, NO. I am against "Guru Overwhelm" until you are paralyzed. So, Stop, Think, Get Clear on these 2 things and you will do well.

That's it for now, hope this helps.

Thanks!
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Fortunately I've had the privilege to find the Warrior Forum early on in my IM journey. Some of the WSOs that I picked up then really weren't great but at least they only cost about 20 bucks.

My only real guru overwhelm experience was from the Butterfly Marketing release. I believe it was the second one (2.0) which was "free" after you paid $30 for shipping and handling, lol.

It came with a ton of up sells (which were overwhelming) and made me feel like I needed to attend the classes in Vegas. When the product arrived I was confused because this material really had nothing to do with what I needed at the time, which was some proof that I could make a few bucks behind a computer screen.

Instead I learned some great methods about list building and designing a business but that was far from what I needed at the time.

This was great example for me about Stability vs. Freedom. At that point of time I didn't need to learn how to increase my conversion rates to my list when I didn't even have a list, nor was given real instructions to build one.

If it would have just told me to write articles to EZA and direct link to a CPA offer that would have been great!

What I would advise anyone starting out is to read through some of the WSO's or ask someone who you respect in the Internet Marketing community for a recommendation. Pick up 1 or 2 products that have a real general approach to internet marketing and give you a few different methods to make money. Select the ones that interest you the most.

Then apply those methods and be persistent. Once you see your first sale or lead come through, scale it up!
Keep on doing what works no matter how boring, or hard it gets.

Don't get distracted by all the shiny stuff out there that the "gurus" or even wannabe gurus are pushing. Take a few methods and run with them.

Use them until you have proven to yourself that you can indeed make money!

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how can I get to comment on videos..I watched videos but just get sign up box again...don't know what happened .
Anyway I will also comment here in a few as this is happening in other industries not just IM
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Comment box seems to work fine in the Firefox browser I am using. Just by clicking the link for the videos it shows up right below.

Make sure you check your email and use the links provided in the emails from Tristan. I get the opt-in box for the link on this thread but not on the videos sent by email after I opted in.
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I have not opted in on your videos yet, as I just saw this WSO. I too am very leary of the interenet gurus. In my book, I only trust Jeff Walker and to an extent Fran Kern. Usually when they send out a blast you at least get some useful information, not just a Click Bank product link.
I do still follow many gurus, just to learn how they market. While I will never do some of the things I find sneaky, I read their copy and watch the videos for clues on how I can use. Recently I came across people selling IM products to the MLM market. I will never join or try these MLM programs, but I find it amazing how they pitch products we all know about here at WF.
Anyways, sounds like a good offer and I wish you luck. Of course I have stored how you are offering cash to participate to get subscribers. Great idea. Hope to use a variation myslef in the furutre!
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Hey Tristan,

Here's the contribution of my story and tips. I was fired from a job I hated anyway, 8.5 months ago and decided I would really try to improve my life by learning IM so I could work for myself and be my own boss. Same old story, I know, and boy, the desperation I felt was tailor made for every sales letter of every product that I bought.

It is a bit of a jungle out there for the newbie who doesn't have a real knack for marketing. I still have not made any money and, oh crap, I have to face the possibility of going back to a job that I hate, more in debt then ever. Alas, poor me.

I know it's possible to make a good living from the internet. Your videos do point out the pitfalls of searching for a viable business model via the latest guru offering and sum up nicely the treadmill that it puts one on, always looking for the next greatest thing to come along. I was slowly coming to the same conclusion on my own, and realized I was just a prospect in somebody's sales funnel, and not really getting anywhere.

My tip to someone starting out is to keep learning. It's just a matter of time before you piece things together and start thinking and acting like a marketer. I haven't given up and hope to achieve some success in the coming months as I continue to learn more. People offer money back guarantees, so there's no reason not to dive in and see what you can learn. After a while you will learn to separate what's valuable from what's not and hopefully come up with a system that works for you.

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**UPDATE**

You can now register and reserve your seat for this live call.

There are only 100 spots available so you must register now to reserve your spot.

The coaching call will be Sunday the 21st of November starting at 8pm EST.



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The comments have been absolutely amazing, I have honestly been blown away by the responses.

I really can't wait to get on this call and share some really awesome stuff with you guys!

I have read all of your comments both here and on the video blog and I will be going through and answering your questions and exposing the guru's PLUS giving away $5000 CASH!!!

This is going to be really fun and 100% FREE!

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Hey Tristin,

I'm definitely not proud of what I'm about to share. Your videos have been 100% right on and describe me to a "T". Without a doubt, I have learned a ton of information along the way, but I just couldn't seem to make any of that information work for me. Now I understand that in part, it was Guru Overwhelm.

I'm probably an extreme case. I love information and learning, so I was a prime target for the gurus. When I started Internet marketing over a year+ ago, I wanted to consume everything I could. I had a background in marketing, and writing, so I thought I could jump into the process and start making thousands within days. (Sound familiar?) This coupled with the fact that I need a successful business - and SOON - created a desperate attempt to find what could make me be successful.

I purchased literally thousands of dollars of products. Sometimes I purchased so many products in one day, that toward the end, I couldn't remember the next day what I had purchased and had to refer to my spreadsheet where I listed them all. Unfortunately, that's where the information stayed for many of the products while I moved on to the next "shinny" course or product.

Regardless of some of the comments I've read about Guru Overwhelm, honestly, your videos could not have come at a more perfect time. I couldn't understand why I was doing this. I would tell myself to ignore the emails and not make one more purchase because surely I had enough knowledge, but then I'd get sucked in again.

Your explanation of goals and facing the fact that it is tied to integrity was humbling and eye opening for me. I never looked at it that way, and now that I am, it's almost like that one fact alone has removed the "purchasing" high. It really made me stop and think. Most importantly, it has made me STOP purchasing. (Thank you!!)

I started taking steps to unsubscribe from Gurus just before your video series came out. Why? Because some of the gurus are recommending that. (I know!) On some level I realized I was seriously out of control and needed to take drastic steps to stop the desperation and my addiction to purchasing products. I started to unsubscribe from nearly every list. I'd begun the process of structuring 5 goals for myself per day - but in the back of my mind I already had a contingency plan for those days that life or "chaos" would reign supreme and prevent me from getting to them. (Now I realize that was a ready-made excuse for continuing the same patterns.)

You have no idea how many times through out the day I would agonize over this...wonder what could possibly be wrong with me that I couldn't seem to stick to a program in spite of really believing I have what's needed to do very well in Internet marketing.

Part of this is that I've had people encourage me to just get something out there - but I can't do that. I really want to make a geniune difference in other's lives, so I had 2 reactions to that "just get it out there" philosophy. #1, I don't want to put more crap content out there. It goes against everything that's in me, and I know the disappointment I felt when I purchased a product that had one or two good pieces of information but the rest was hollow. I'm not going to do that.
#2 Inside I felt that I could not "pretend" to be successful at something when I was constantly stuck in this cycle of rarely accomplishing what I set out to do. I didn't want to be a hypocrite.

The problem is that desperation was pushing me to try to somehow get a product finished and get it online, but then there were these adsense sites and the local marketing lead generation sites, and...and...and.

I want you to know that your videos have been a huge catalyst of change in my life - in just a few short days.

It started with your first video and facing what the gurus are doing - and determining I will not fall victim again.
Last night I spent over an hour unsubscribing from literally every guru email list I'm currently subscribed to. I know now that I have enough information. (Thanks again!)
This is all reinforced by completing the goal sheet you attached to the Goal Choking video. (Thanks AGAIN!)
I completely revamped my daily strategy and my commitment to myself - to strengthening my integrity in the following ways.

1. I've chosen the ONE project/product I am focused on (out of the 5 in process - yes, 5!)
2. I am committed to daily action and strengthening my integrity.
3. I've created a "DO" statement that is the first thing I see when I wake up and posted again at my desk, "I control the actions that lead to results in my business. Today I am focused on activity that leads to results with two simple focuses: Traffic and Conversions."
4. I am treating my business like it is a real business. I realize now I am the CEO and not a part-time employee that can simply do what they want when they want and still expect my business to be successful.
5. I pulled my WHY/Vision board out of my closet - it is in plain view.

That's the short-version of my story. I'm not excusing myself, but it certainly helped to have a logical explanation for what I've been experiencing. I am so thankful you didn't leave us hanging, but included the steps we need to take to stop the Guru Overwhelm. We didn't have to purchase anything to get the "HOW" - that alone speaks highly of your integrity.

My #1 tip? It definitely helped that I had begun the process of unsubscribing from guru lists. The less temptations flowing into your email, the less you'll be "convinced" you need to buy. So start unsubscribing now. #2 Treat our business like a true business - be the CEO.

Thank you, Tristan. I've seen the comments in the thread questioning your intentions, and I realize we all have our own realities. I just want you to know that you have already changed my life, provided an understanding of what was going on, and given me steps to start the corrective process now. What you have given me from these free videos is priceless.

(I'm signed up for the coaching call above! - Thanks for that, too!)
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Tristan:

It's Joan again! This time I'm really tempted by a bright shiny object. What do you think of Crowd Conversion? How do I learn how to maket on Facebook without spending a thousand bucks? I want to know NOW!

I am looking forward to your Webinar next Sunday. I want to find out the quickest method of building traffic to my websites. Never mind conversions. I need traffic first.

I'm pretty cheap and I think I've been pretty good at resisting the guru offers. I admit I bought a few. Nothing over $500. I've been tempted though.

Only one way to cut out all the noise, join Spam Arrest and opt out to all the offers.

That's going to be very hard for me to do because I like to stay in the loop.

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Hello, Internet Marketers Anonymous, my name is Christopher, from Melbourne, Australia... and I was a guru bitch. I was young and I needed cash. My part-time job wasn't doing enough for my cravings, I need more and more. I asked my boss but he couldn't do anything. So... after searching on the Internet for what I could do to hopefully make some extra cash along with my job, I came across... Internet Marketing.

I learned that I could just make some money on the Internet. That's when I discovered a guru, who I won't name for ethical reasons. He had that shiny, fancy sales letter... I have never seen a website take up so much space! It kept going and going... eventually he told me that I could make $5,000+ a month, only if I paid $57 for his e-book. I thought to myself... why not? I mean... $57... to $5,000? I would be stupid not to sign up! Eventually, that $57 became hundreds of dollars... almost draining my bank account.

I bought every single e-book this guy was shilling out, I didn't know that he deliberately left out vital information in every single one of them, making me buy more of his crap. I also checked my PayPal for any received funds every day... nothing yet. The week after... nothing... days became weeks, with no PayPal money, no checks, nothing. Not only wasn't I making money on the Internet, I was broke. Since I came to the stage that I would even call in 'sick' at work (when I was actually focusing on my IM activities), I only had $1.42 left in my bank account, I will never forget that amount... $1.42, my low point. That was... only a few months after I started buying that $57 e-book. It was like crack, I got a hit every time I bought a e-book from this guy, the guy with his Ferraris and yachts and whatever the hell he found while walking down the street with his camera.

I got sick of him, I decided to venture alone into internet marketing. But I couldn't. There was too much in my brain for me to handle. I was overloaded with information. I couldn't sleep at night, my family and friends were worried about me, my acedemic studies were affected, I was a top student in my class but my scores got worse and worse, especially since exams were approaching and I needed to be at my best.

Eventually, I said enough! I discovered other IM forums, including Warrior Forum and found, later on, that other people shared the same fate as I did, 'gurus' of all kinds ripping us ordinary Joes off, fuelling their money greed as we suffered. I was so dumb, I did not realise... until it was too late, I hardly had anything to show for myself.

I took baby steps on the road to recovery. I now have started earning with ClickBank and Adsense. Not enough to recoup back what I lost but at least I made money. That's all that mattered.

Tristian Bull (but no bull) has done an excellent job, he had the guts to not only expose these tricks worthy of a corrupt politician or businessman like Bernie Madoff, but he named them too! (Which I didn't have the guts to do...). So far, his Guru Overwhelm series has done a magnificent, I reckon that his videos are compulsory viewing for anyone in internet marketing, no matter if you're new or have been in the business for 10+ years.

His videos have come down to two vital steps to success with internet marketing... traffic and conversions. It's that simple. Not only that, but he exposes how unrealistic goal setting leads us to failure. I hate goal setting, especially since I was 'forced' to do so in high school, regarding the grades I should get or the homework I should complete and so on. I forgot about the important lessons in high school about goal setting that should have extended to using the methods the 'gurus' have crapped out. Face it, you'll never achieve $90000 in 30 days. Don't let that get to your head! Set realistic goals that you can actually achieve, baby steps, like me!

Now, if you're suffering from GURU OVERWHELM, here's some tips:
  • Unsubscribe from every IM-related list you're joined with. It's just clogging up your inbox.
  • Make up a to-do list of your daily activites, including work, rest, socialising and your IM business. STICK TO THAT LIST! IT'S YOUR PERSONAL GOD.
  • Traffic is also your god, without it, who's gonna find your site? BUILD IT UP! Even if you have to pay a tiny amount to get started, build up backlinks, social links, whatever. TRAFFIC!
  • FOCUS ON YOUR CURRENT JOB! Resist temptation and stick to what you have already, nothing else. Only when you're definitely finished with your current job, you can check out what else is there.
  • Realistic goals make it better. Goals that you know that you can complete. More of "$200 by the end of the month", less of "$200,000 in 24 hours!!!11"
  • Watch Tristian's series now! Go, go! You'll then realise on how you have been duped by the so-called 'gurus'!
Expect for his Ed Hardy t-shirt, Tristian has set up a very well-done series of videos that exposes those guys who make money off of us lazy slobs, looking for a quick fix of cash. If you must watch one video series of internet marketing this year... make it this one.

My name is Christopher and I am no longer a guru bitch.
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Hello everyone. I am really new into internet marketing and am trying really hard to avoid all of the negative experiences which most of you describe. I agree with a lot that Tristan says but with my personality being that of a realist I have to say the following: Tristan, you talk about the guru hype but are you leading us in the same direction and in the same way as the guru's? I mean, you give away the free video's about guru hype, which I agree there is an overabundance of guru hype. Then you lead us toward the free coaching call (with limited space available) on November 21st with the possibility of winning cash. Then I am sure this will all lead to some type of service or product that you will offer that will cost money. Don't get me wrong, you seem like a real intelligent guy and I in no way find fault with you wanting to make money online. The problem I have is that you try to convince us that the guru's are trying to sell us on their products with hype and false promises but in reality it seems that you are leading us down the path to an eventual "sales pitch" that will probably be accompanied by "fear of loss" or "limited number", "limited time" sales methods. I really hate to be the "Doubting Thomas" but I have the "I will believe it when I see it" type of personality. Anyhow, I wish you great success as well as all of us. Thanks for allowing me to comment.
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My "guru" experience. I purchased the LBMM aka Local Business Money Machine program about a year and a half ago. They laid out a very nice, seemingly complete program taking a person through the local business, SEO website building program that a person can make money from local businesses through updating or selling SEO services.

Of course when you sign up, your contact information is passed around to whoever. A company called ADM Ventures contacted me (for an upsell) using the same tactics as Tristin (no-)Bull mentions in the videos. Although the contact was via phone, they pretty much followed the "hype" to a "T". What the upsell is is their "mentoring" program. They don't mention a specific attachment or mentoring of the LBMM program just a mentoring program that guarantees you WILL make back your investment (mine was $6,150 for 16 calls) or they will continue to coach you up to an additional 12 months - whichever comes first.

My experience with the mentoring program that I have actually experienced so far...

All coaching calls are recorded and I do have recordings for anyone that wishes to listen and hear for themselves if almost $400 per hour is well spent. I invited the head of the coaching program, the paralegal and anyone to listen to the calls thus far and see that a refund is in order.

My first coach/mentor was Kent who said he had over 20 years experience with SEO and websites. My initial issue that I was aware of was keyword/niche research for local business. I did not have a problem finding a niche, but the domain name search for such business. I made the huge mistake of finding the niche "name" then looking at the number of exact searches only to blow it with just adding the city or city and state to the end of the "domain" niche. Of course my questions were "between coaching calls". So I emailed the coach not really knowing if I would get an answer or if I could only have contact with the coach/mentor during scheduled calls. I spent $100 on domain names that basically through the city - state combo wherever the domain name wasn't taken. Still between coach calls and still not hearing back from the coach, I proceeded to set up one of the domains. I used the information provided by the smaller LBMM program that I purchased and do not regret purchasing. Sure enough I got the site up and ranked on the first page.

By the time I got to talk to the Kent, the coach, he basically burst my "proud of myself bubble" by letting me know what I dreaded. I couldn't just attach the city/state in the front of or just in the back of the domain. So I ranked #1 on Google for basically a worthless non rentable website. Waste of time and money and even more money on the other 8 domains I purchased and won't end up using. Can't entirely blame Kent for this as I was eager to show how serious I was in getting up and running.

Kent encouraged me to talk to my "warm" contacts in finding niches. Since my "warm" market has been used up form other business ideas, I decided to use a relative's construction business. I again got a domain name and setup another site. I asked Kent what else I needed to do to get ranked, what I needed to change or add to improve my position, visual appeal, etc. He informed me "I need more content". Basically that is all. "More content". Here is what I learned OUTSIDE of my $6,100 program. More content actually means having a page with at least 500 to 800 words, a keyword density of at least 3% to 4%. As a student, the latter is a much better instruction (at $400 per hour call). After the 4th call of extremely vague information, SEO 101 type of information, I called ADM Ventures to get a refund.

To make a long story shorter, I tried to get my money back from ADM Ventures and going up against a stone wall of - Oh, we want you to be happy. Why want you try one of our other coaches who have helped 60 people be successful with our program so far. She (Neeve) has a great track record, blah blah, blah. Since I did want to succeed with the over-hyped, extremely over priced program (IMO), I decided to give her a try.

So far after the 3d coach call with her, I am still not any further in my endeavor of a rental website business, nor have made a dime on anything that has so vaguely suggested - "more content, more content" SEO 101 type of stuff.

Before this 4th call, I had called Travis from ADM Ventures on 11/5/10 and he finally connected with me on 11/9. He informed me that he did not have enough information from "both sides" to my complaint. That he would have to contact the coaches/mentors and hear what they have to say. I invited him to actually listen to the recorded calls thus far as part of his investigation to have an actual picture of all of the "empty, vague, SEO 101" type of info their program offers. He informed me he didn't have the "clout" to refund me and that he would contact Nate Barton who IS supposed to have the "clout". That was scheduled for 11/11. So far no word from Nate. Go figure...

So Neeve/coach informs me Edward Sayer who is head of the mentoring program would be on our call - 3 way. After another wasted $400/per hour still nothing that I already haven't done could be suggested. They asked if they could get back to me in a day or so.

My complaint... I think the product is totally lame for anyone who has already got SEO 101 under their belt. There is no structure for progressive information. I personally am not getting anything out of this over-priced, over hyped program and am still seeking my refund. ADM Ventures is not standing behind their product by refunding someone who is totally dissatisfied with their product. I totally regret buying the mentoring program and the extreme vagueness of information their coaches offer.

98% of my information of website building/SEO information has come from outside the mentoring program.

Again, I invite anyone to hear the 8 calls to see if anything would be new or informative or worth almost $400 per/hour.
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First things first,
Thank you to Juan Leandro Costa for the PDf download. Very nice piece of info sharing and honest heart sharing all the painful experienced. I would help sharing this useful info to others who is needed when I come across. The best part I like from your sharing is the positive learning attitude to succeed from failing which is great. Thank you once again.

I had been few years in IM and very careful of buying a single program. Until now,I still hardly spend a penny out of my pocket money. I only buy those programs that promise 60 days of free trial period. I will focus on a particular program in less than a month before I demanded full refund from the vendor. Of course, the good way to get refund is either by Paypal(Open a resolution) or Clickbank ( Not up to my expectation as the main reason).

That means,I will fully utilized the learning in a month.Hence,if I found that your program is not worth to have, a full refund I demand.

Actually, I did subscribe to many top gurus list and see what are they selling. No surprising, sometimes, I received 5 gurus selling the same program,again and again sending to the list once a new product is available. Then,I have to very careful of any such of particular guru. To my shock, almost all the well-known gurus are in the same process.

My advice to these gurus is please stay focus on your own program that is really can help people to make money and not selling others stuff to your list again and again. Because this can distract your lists attention for learning from one program to another program until they totally lost the direction.

Example of programs that I recommended and well worth to stay focus :
1) Mobile Monopoly for you to learn how to market using mobile advertising.
2) Blogblueprint-Start from one time payment(temporary forget the up sells), work your way up from a regular member. Once you start to make money, upgrade to Gold or Platinum member. In this program, you learn everything about how to find niche product, SEO that won't hurt Search Engines and so forth with proven step by step video and text instruction.I highly recommend to anyone include newbie or experienced marketer. However, you should have either one from five of these hosting that recommended by Blogblueprint (With full support).
.Hostgator
.BlueHost
.HostMonster
.Liquid
.Lunarpages

I am actually impress by Tristan videos and the way he presented to us.
To me,
1) I will learn the best part from the videos that showing
**Traffic and conversion
2) Might attend the webinar to see what I can learn from there regardless of the limited spot.
3) Final-My decision is up to me ( Not easily being tempted away)

My last opinion to any guru out there. Try to let your subscriber aka member to make money from your program start from a small fee before continue to your up sells program. Member success is a long term residual income to your program.

Another thing is, be confident of yourself and inject a strong believing that your program would really help the marketer make money on the internet. Hence, words such as limited spot, limited time, limited bonuses,limited copies and so on are no longer important for turning a customer into a buyer unless you are targeted to a newbie.

Thank you for sharing

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