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Old 12-05-2008, 08:11 AM   #1
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>> the lazy bastard method <<

I hate working hard, I would rather work smart.

That's what my business model is all about.

It's called the LAZY B*STARD.

But it's not black hat. It's definately a business you can tell your mother about

A lot of people HATE IT. A lot of people LOVE IT.


Try it out. Don't like it? Get a refund.

>> the lazy bastard method <<

contents

1. intro
2. the thing you get the money for
3. traffic part 1
4. how it all comes together
5. markets and niches
6. "hunter" technique
7. the backend
8. traffic part 2
9. automation heaven
10. how to scale your business
11. final word


Oh, just to clear up... I've put this on here before yes, and yes, I have been a member here since around 06 under joedaviesonline.

Here's some very pleasant comments warriors have made. I have a few emails too that I will dig out later:

"This is the first WSO I've bought in ages, and I bought this one mainly out of curiosity. I was pleasantly surprised by the content - this is a legitimate business model, and will definitly work. There are no black hat methods involved, and I think if the OP had marketed it in a slightly more conventional way then this would be a very popular WSO indeed. Gets my recommendation!"

"I actually took a whirl on this one when he posted it in the Classifieds section and was pleasantly surprised. Not for newbies, but it nicely presents one of my favorite business models for hands off income with a couple resources that I will definitely be using in the future."

"Well... I went ahead and bought it. I thought you know... it's only 17 bucks I'll test it and report. It is fun to read (he does not swear too much in the book itself)"

"I have the WSO myself and it is good material and recommended."

"The product is good -- but you need to have a good amount of money to follow the plan "as written". Upwards of $100 upfront, and if you don't make $100 in your first month, you might need to put in more from your pocket to nudge month 2 into existence.

I can't see failing to at least break even after the second month.

I'm certainly jumping all over this one."

I'ts not all good comments tho My product is like marmite. You either love its short and to the point in your face so simple 'kick yourself' method, or you hate it, becuase you know it shouldn't be that easy.

It's time to get excited.
It's tme to get smart.
It's time to get lazy.


>> the lazy bastard method <<
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Old 12-05-2008, 10:27 AM   #2
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Mods...

Do you really endorse this language and this mentality
in the Warriors' Forum??
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Old 12-05-2008, 10:35 AM   #3
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Oh my..

what is going on? This is not right.
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Old 12-05-2008, 10:45 AM   #4
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Well, we may or may not agree with the language and style but it surely gets attention. Old tricks work still...

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Old 12-05-2008, 10:49 AM   #5
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Mods, you might want to check out his SIG too.
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Old 12-05-2008, 10:58 AM   #6
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no swearing there i dont know what your talking about

i could be saying FICK

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Old 12-05-2008, 11:01 AM   #7
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Well, we may or may not agree with the language and style but it surely gets attention. Old tricks work still...
Tomas, I suppose it depends on how one defines 'work'.

Spam 'works'. So does porn. If there wasn't a 'market' they wouldn't exist. But is that what we want the WF to become - a breeding ground for anything that 'works'?

Besides, marketers usually characterize a campaign as one that 'works' not based upon whether or not it draws attention, but upon whether it converts.

Did this get my attention? Sure did. Did it convert me into a buyer? Nope.


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Old 12-05-2008, 11:38 AM   #8
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Best copy I've seen in a while...
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Old 12-05-2008, 11:53 AM   #9
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I am reminded of Sesame Street, the old episodes as a kid...

"One of these things just doesn't belong here..."
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A real business model is to build and produce something that provides people with value that they really want and will give you money for And not doing any work while making a ton of money is something people want!
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Old 12-05-2008, 01:54 PM   #11
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Everyone is giving the guy a rough time but what's important is the product. And you guys have never seen the product.

I actually took a whirl on this one when he posted it in the Classifieds section and was pleasantly surprised.

Not for newbies, but it nicely presents one of my favorite business models for hands off income with a couple resources that I will definitely be using in the future.
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"SEO is for losers. Adsense is for losers. Making products is for losers. Writing articles is for losers. This model, my friends, the Lazy Bastard Method is only for genious people."

Is that so? Since in your own words making products is for losers, are we to assume someone else made this one? Or, are you a loser too?

Btw, it's genius not genious.
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HA!
I about choked on my coffee.

This thread and the replies are genious I tell you, simply genious!!
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Old 12-05-2008, 03:25 PM   #14
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Lol, nice attention grabbing headline Proves once again that there's "nice nice" marketing, and then there's "grab 'em by the balls" and make them pay attention.

Both work. Only one works towards a mass appeal
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Old 12-05-2008, 03:26 PM   #15
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LOL!!

your thread has managed to evoke deep seated feelings here on the WF.

Seems like it's a love-hate relationship.

no in-betweens.
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Old 12-05-2008, 03:29 PM   #16
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Well, it is surely attracting a lot of attention. I don't condone prudishness, and while I wouldn't use this style, nothing here offends me.
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If this is offensive to you then you are a huge prude.
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Old 12-05-2008, 03:54 PM   #18
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Is ioksane1987 actually Tom Vu?
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If this is offensive to you then you are a huge prude.
I totally disagree.

It got my attention.. but I will certainly NOT be buying the product.

there are ways to do things and ways not to do things... everyone has different opinions (and I respect that), but for me... this is NOT teh way to do things.
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Not exactly my style but having the ability to choose and then express one's personality is a good thing, No?
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When I first saw this WSO I thought nothing of the language until all the comments started. I can't believe this is even an issue. This is internet marketing, I say anything goes. Honestly I don't even think he needed the aviatrixes.
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Isn't this RichJerk tactics?

Is he doing it correctly?

Looks like only one buyer and one review , so far, not promising as far as getting and accessing accolades for possibly leaning closer toward a decision to buy the product.

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Old 12-05-2008, 06:33 PM   #23
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I really don't think it's the character of ioksane1987.

What I think is he is testing a new marketing approach (I heard it weren't so bad for The Rich Jerk).

However, I've to agree with the most of you at this point: What a BAD choise is to try this approach in a Community of Internet Marketers!

Maybe there could be got some results with a newbie public (human psique is strange, lets agree), but in Warrior Forum....


So, for me the sin here is not language, but the wrong target's choise.

And, Yes, it's a mortal sin in the Marketing arenas. I completely agree.


We must ALWAYS to choise carefully our words in direct relation with our target audience.


Plus, as a newbie could think "Well, thanks God I met this before to waste my time in all of those stuff", the mean IM will think: "Is this guy calling me a STUPID????"


So, Bad Target, Good Try.


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Isn't this RichJerk tactics?

Is he doing it correctly?

Looks like only one buyer and one review , so far, not promising as far as getting and accessing accolades for possibly leaning closer toward a decision to buy the product.

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Please make sure you specify the proper RichJerk when making such a post.. I would never belittle myself to post such crap as the OP has..

1. I do not think this is even his product
2. I do not agree with the "fear" factor

I DO agree with posting exactly the truth and telling someone upfront exactly what you offer, no fluff or filler or trying to hide things behind marketing tactics. Obviously the OP got ahold of some guru wannabee ebook that explained this tactic to him.

WSO should be removed, I would agree with many other posters...

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Please make sure you specify the proper RichJerk when making such a post..

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Whats the difference between RichJerk and TheRichJerksNet?

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1) Is this your product as there are 2 different names on the sales page or do you have 2 different names?

2) Is this the same as this WSO? im a lazy b*stard and i earn $240 a day. let me show you exactly how.
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Big Difference - I am not some scam that tried to instill "fear" in people .. I do not own or have anything to do with wayne or TheRichJerkDOTcom ..

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...Is that so? Since in your own words making products is for losers, are we to assume someone else made this one? Or, are you a loser too?

Btw, it's genius not genious.
Nice one...ROFL.

While I do not agree with his way of doing things, it sure prompted me to at least open up the thread and read it as compared to the more than a dozen which I've skipped through. :-)
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Sorry...


I don't knew the diference neither.

I'll visit both sites later.


Thanks.


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Hey, TheRichJerk.net, are yours the membership site that has been so succesful since 4 year ago?
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I could be saying FICK.
Oh c'mon, now your just being a duck.
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Sorry...


I don't knew the diference neither.

I'll visit both sites later.


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Hey, TheRichJerk.net, are yours the membership site that has been so succesful since 4 year ago?
It's TheRichJerks.net - The one that does not have false claims on the site ...

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It's TheRichJerks.net - The one that does not have false claims on the site ...

James
Have to check it out.

By your previous post, I am going to make an assumption.

Your philosophy is being frank, but honest to almost street-level comprehension, while the "other" RichJerk used as a base , the appearence of being frank, except taking it to an extreme....fear, hype, vile,false claims.

He took a good philosophy and turned to The DarkSide.

How close was I?

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My only concern here is that this looks like the poster is breaking WSO rules.

I purchased the original WSO back in 6-11-07 (I have proof of this) This poster did not even join the forum until 10-30-07.

It appears to me to just be someone using resell rights. Unless he is Joe Davies then this WSO is breaking rules.

Questions? Support? Joe [AT] JoeDaviesOnline [Dot] com (this was the original contact for support and is no longer online)

He is also using an affiliate type link or another website (daviesmachine.com which just shows an email) which is another give-away.

So, ioksane1987 is this your own product or just a product you are promoting?

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any actual REVIEWS of the product? I saw one...
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Well... I went ahead and bought it. I thought you know... it's only 17 bucks I'll test it and report. It is fun to read (he does not swear too much in the book itself)

It should work, but I have to test it.
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Hello People,

yes it is my product and all of that... I've been a member here since 06 i think with a username 'JoeDaviesOnline'
...and yes I've posted it here before...

thanks for all the orders so far, and ive had a couple of nice emails. one said it 'loved how it was short and to the point', cheers for those.

stay lazy.
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oh and of course its been updated since then with new tools to replace irrelevant ones.
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This is the first WSO I've bought in ages, and I bought this one mainly out of curiosity. I was pleasantly surprised by the content - this is a legitimate business model, and will definitly work. There are no black hat methods involved, and I think if the OP had marketed it in a slightly more conventional way then this would be a very popular WSO indeed. Gets my recommendation!
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ioksane1987,
I owe you an apology then. I was having a bit of trouble finding normal methods of contacting you via a website. I knew that ioksane1987 was not being used at that time.
You know how we are here at the Warrior Forum, just trying to make sure no one else selling your product and claiming to be you.
As I said before, I purchased your product during the first WSO, or at least the first time I ever saw it back in 6-07.
I normally save the entire WSO posting as a text file and also save the posters forum name. However, I was not saving the name part at that time.
Again, I apologize for any harm I may have caused by questioning this WSO.
I have the WSO myself and it is good material and recommended.
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No problem Glenn at all!


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Well it sure as hell got MY attention!
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The style is just like therichjunk.com
But it sure able to get attention
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The Rick Jerk originally started this method of 'Shock Marketing' reserved only for the wanna
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So go blame him
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Interesting (I reserve my comments)

Bet this thread is going to be on fire very soon!
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Joe,

Your WSO looks pretty interesting and you seem to have gotten a solid endorsement from Mike Williams. I do have a few questions though as things don't seem entirely clear...

1) You say this is not for newbies. How much knowledge is assumed on your part in order for us to make your strategy work?

2) You are throwing out a $240 daily figure for this strategy, how much money for advertising (and any other expenses) would be needed to get to that level and how long would it take?

3) Since you seem to be showing lots of paypal screenshots, I'm assuming this has absolutely nothing to do with affiliate marketing and we get paid directly and instantly for every sale made?

4) Since you also mention it's not about creating our own products, what exactly are we selling with your strategy?

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1) You say this is not for newbies. How much knowledge is assumed on your part in order for us to make your strategy work?

you need to know how to build a html website and get hosting, maybe design unless you get it outsourced. basic seo or ppc is a bonus.

2) You are throwing out a $240 daily figure for this strategy, how much money for advertising (and any other expenses) would be needed to get to that level and how long would it take?

some students are seeing instant profits of $100's, spending only $30-$50 on advertizing, or utilizing very basic SEO and making pure profit, minus web hosting, domain and "tool" costs.

some students ive been having email conversations with have only been breaking even in the second or third month unfortunately, although they are in unbelievably tough niches like dating and the 'make money' niche.

$240 is just a bench mark, it could be alot more, and it has been.

3) Since you seem to be showing lots of paypal screenshots, I'm assuming this has absolutely nothing to do with affiliate marketing and we get paid directly and instantly for every sale made?

Affiliate marketing is only a part of it. The bulk is made from 'products'.

4) Since you also mention it's not about creating our own products, what exactly are we selling with your strategy?

products

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