Offer has ended!

[simonj007]

This is intriguing.....

Can I ask why didn't you just make a new video relevant to your recent earnings??

I'm into CPA but having read some of the comments in the thread I'm by no means filled with confidence..

Convince me....?

[Srikanth D]

Originally Posted by heretowin

Seems like I missed out on the resource file too. I downloaded just the video.

Where can I find the link for the resource file..?


Srikanth

How come I got OVERLOOKED??

@@Shocs: Please send me the link to the 'new resource file'!!!!!!

[Dan Ellenwood]

Since many people seem to be up in arms about this wso...

I bought it and went through it.

The links that are used in the videos are now dead, but, in the resource doc that comes with the videos, shocs lists a site that gives other such sites as are in the video and I found some other(s) that do work...

I don't believe in lying to people, so I would only do it whitehat.

The whitehat method is along the lines of -- instead of lying to people, tell them straight up what you want them to do and then offer them x amount of money for them to do it. It is actually easy cash for them and you can pay them out of your profits...

I haven't tried this yet as I am tied up with other pressing business right now, but I do plan to try it in the next few weeks.

Most of you are creative enough to think outside the box a little with what shocs teaches and come up with a better (whitehat) way to do it.

So, the conclusion, this wso might be worth it and it might not. It depends on what you do with the information. Since I haven't tried it yet I can't say if it will work, but by all appearances it should.

My 2 cents (after my $27!)

[GaryHarvey]

Well said, Dan.

I don't believe in lying to people, so I would only do it whitehat.

The whitehat method is along the lines of -- instead of lying to people, tell them straight up what you want them to do and then offer them x amount of money for them to do it. It is actually easy cash for them and you can pay them out of your profits...

To all those who've PMed me, that's the same general answer I would give.

Thanks Dan.

Gary

[Philomina]

How do I get accepted by the affiliate companies.

Please reply my pm.

Thanks.

[operationivy]

ok, i bought the product, and will now provide a review (as was recommended to me by the download page):

-this consists of a single video narrated by what sounds like a very motivated, disciplined young man (got me excited!)

however,

the following information is incorrect:

Originally Posted by shocs

This strategy doesn't involve CPC, blogs, websites, copywriting, scamming people, offline work, craiglist, porn nor dating or e-whoring.

in fact, the entire method is centered around scamming people. and to top it off, desperate people are the target.

the other false statement made by the "author":

Originally Posted by shocs

I've automated the process so you should receive the video soon after you have completed the payment. If this did not happen, I will send it to you as soon as I get home (I'm writing this text from my phone) + a bonus to those who waited. About the method itself, I can say that it's a greyhat one, I can't really reveal its subject. It can't get saturated (and that's why I'm selling). It can also be applied in other areas like CPA. Anyway it's a step by step guide that even a newbie can apply, you don't need to have any special skills. Again, to those who already paid, I'm sorry, you will get it soon +a bonus.

this method is not grey hat, nor is it black hat. it is outright FRAUD.

not only that, the method has holes in it.

1. do you (OP, i'm addressing you) realize where the ______ sites (sorry, won't give away his magical type of site) get their offers from? while you are getting all giddy about the profit you make, you are making about 10-20% less than you would by going to the source.

2. the second half of your method no longer works on most sites. _______ sites are very keen on telling users that using ------ cards is prohibited, and your earnings will be forfeited.


BOTTOM LINE: MUCH better versions of this same method (ones that actually work) have been going around for cheaper, made with higher quality (and not in 2007)

this gets 0 out of 5 stars

ps. technically i have no proof that your "proof" is bs, so i won't mention that in this post, except indirectly, in a possible "ps." message at the bottom

[Shaun]

I called Visa..They asked me to ask you one more time for a full refund..

If not they will retrieve the money..

Also in my view this WSO should be reported to allen.


Shaun

[shocs]

@ simonj007 - That is no sense. Also, I don't need to convince you since I'm here to help, not to make some pity $27, really.
@ heretowin - I am really sorry, please take my apologizes. I thought that I have already sent you the link. Anyway, PM sent.
@ Dan Ellenwood - Thank you for the review. Someone finally gets the ball rolling and understands the concept & how can this be turned into completely whitehat.
@ Philomina - For some, you get approved instantly, for others it may take 2-3 days.
@ operationivy - Untrue. Do you even know what scamming means? You don't steal, get this right, okay? This is a greyhat method, but most probably you didn't pay attention to the sale copy or don't know what greyhat means. Anyway, I can provide a great tweak that will totally transform this method into whitehat. So you don't even have to lie anything. Anyway, scamming was NEVER involved into this WSO. As a rule, I don't steal because I believe in karma and God. The second part of the video still works, try it and you will see. Why did you rush to throw such words if you haven't even tried what I said there, in the video?
@ Shaun - I think I spent hours writing emails and PMs back to you but you just don't want to understand. I provided a solution to ALL of your problems/questions. So there's no way you could get a refund, even if you call mister Barack Obama, really.
Shaun, I think you are the scammer in this story, really. You want everything for free.

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by shocs

@ simonj007 - That is no sense. Also, I don't need to convince you since I'm here to help, not to make some pity $27, really.
@ heretowin - I am really sorry, please take my apologizes. I thought that I have already sent you the link. Anyway, PM sent.
@ Dan Ellenwood - Thank you for the review. Someone finally gets the ball rolling and understands the concept & how can this be turned into completely whitehat.
@ Philomina - For some, you get approved instantly, for others it may take 2-3 days.
@ operationivy - Untrue. Do you even know what scamming means? You don't steal, get this right, okay? This is a greyhat method, but most probably you didn't pay attention to the sale copy or don't know what greyhat means. Anyway, I can provide a great tweak that will totally transform this method into whitehat. So you don't even have to lie anything. Anyway, scamming was NEVER involved into this WSO. As a rule, I don't steal because I believe in karma and God. The second part of the video still works, try it and you will see. Why did you rush to throw such words if you haven't even tried what I said there, in the video?
@ Shaun - I think I spent hours writing emails and PMs back to you but you just don't want to understand. I provided a solution to ALL of your problems/questions. So there's no way you could get a refund, even if you call mister Barack Obama, really.
Shaun, I think you are the scammer in this story, really. You want everything for free.

Your sad Shocs..

You emailed me once..I emailed you 4 times with no response??..What do you mean hours of emailing LOL..

I've been on here since 2003..I don't think I'm a scammer..(LOL) We know who the scammer is..


Wow..if I were you I shut it down NOW!

[shocs]

Shaun, tell me please. Have I gave you a solution to your problems or no? Have you checked the working links? What do you want more for me? NO, you can't have this valuable video for free if that's what you want.

[Philomina]

Can you reply my pm please.

[shocs]

Originally Posted by Philomina

Can you reply my pm please.

I have the answer ready for you. However, I can't send on PM after another (I must wait 300 seconds - forum's rule). Please be patient, you'll get your PM as soon as possible

[Srikanth D]

@Shocs Got your PM. Thanks for the reply. Have to check on the new resource file that you have sent.

[Srikanth D]

@ Shocs: I have sent you a PM. Reply when you find it..

Thanks!

[operationivy]

Originally Posted by shocs

operationivy - Untrue. Do you even know what scamming means? You don't steal, get this right, okay? This is a greyhat method, but most probably you didn't pay attention to the sale copy or don't know what greyhat means. Anyway, I can provide a great tweak that will totally transform this method into whitehat. So you don't even have to lie anything. Anyway, scamming was NEVER involved into this WSO. As a rule, I don't steal because I believe in karma and God. The second part of the video still works, try it and you will see. Why did you rush to throw such words if you haven't even tried what I said there, in the video?

what? are you trying to say that scamming and stealing are the same thing? do YOU know what grey hat means?

let me enlighten you:

(from merriam webster)
scam - a fraudulent or deceptive act or operation

are you trying to say that there is anything about this product that ISN'T both fraudulent AND deceptive?

ok, grey hat. grey hat first of all isn't even a real term. it is usually used to describe something on the BlueFart side of whitehat or visa versa. however, BlueFart marketing is when you bend the rules, but don't totally shatter them. this goes way beyond that.

i'm glad you believe in karma. i do too. that's why i stopped using this method about a year ago because it's one of the lousiest money-making methods around. so don't go assuming i never tried "your" method. that's right, i was doing it much better than this for a while. and the second part of your video does work, for a few days, until the ______ site finds out what kind of card you used. i know this from experience.

BUT, i'm not slamming you for selling a method that involves scamming/fraud. i'm just getting the truth out because you lied when you said it isn't about scamming people. also, it is unacceptable to consider any kind of "follow up message" about making it more whitehat to save you from these kinds of reviews. try making a quality product like those around you.

by the way, i'm not some big pessimist who goes around buying products just to find fault in them. i have bought many products on here and this is only my second time leaving a review.

[Shaun]

The Sad Part here is ..with this shady WSO,,((and you don't know that until you buy it))

He Refuses to refund your money..???

[RedMatrix]

Heh, in a PM, he called me unprofessional for asking for my money back after the links in his two year old video no longer work. The forum rules say that WSO are between the author and us. So we can't complain to the forum about this? *confused*

Originally Posted by Shoc's PM

You are the only ones to come with such complaints. Unprofessional, sir.

[Shaun]

I've been on here since 03 and most of the members here mean well..But this cat is a pure-bread Scammer..

[Jullian]

I'm still waiting for my reply, it's been a couple of days now and nothing. I want a refund as this wso so far hasn't worked for me because I live outside the US.

[Srikanth D]

Originally Posted by Jullian

I'm still waiting for my reply, it's been a couple of days now and nothing. I want a refund as this wso so far hasn't worked for me because I live outside the US.

Hasn't worked for me either.. Non-US. Shocs mentioned that he is non-US too and it still works. Honestly it doesn't.

I have been waiting for clarifications too.. Sadly, no replies..

[Eswar]

I am aslo a non US resident and asked specifically asked about this earlier to purcahse. But he told it works for all over the world. It is not working for me. I asked for support 3 times already. But never responded.

If he is not responding to me after reading this message, i will ask for refund.

[Jullian]

Originally Posted by Shaun

I've been on here since 03 and most of the members here mean well..But this cat is a pure-bread Scammer..

Hey Shaun, did you get your refund?

[Shaun]

I've gone through Visa..to get it back

This guy needs his ass kicked!

[Jullian]

Originally Posted by Eswar

I am aslo a non US resident and asked specifically asked about this earlier to purcahse. But he told it works for all over the world. It is not working for me. I asked for support 3 times already. But never responded.

If he is not responding to me after reading this message, i will ask for refund.

Yeah I just want him to give me some names of freebie sites that have offers that allow all countries to fill out. I found one site that allowed me to join but didn't have any offers for my country. Have you found any good sites?

[Eswar]

No, None of the sites allow international signups. He has scammed many of us by telling lies. Since he has not responded for all my pm's I opened paypal dispute today.

[RedMatrix]

I opened up a paypal dispute less than a week ago.

[GaryHarvey]

Hmmm, this is not happy news.

Do we have any internationals who have signed up yet?

Do we have any internationals who've made money from this yet?

I have not done anything with this so far because other things came up.

Gary

[Srikanth D]

Though you can sign up to the mentioned network, the offers are limited to US, UK and at times Australia. Which means if you dont live there, you can't complete them. As good as not being able to sign up
No hope for others..

Probably I have to initiate paypal dispute too as I dont see any signs of Shocs returning.

[alshir827]

I purchased his video 5 days ago, but can't go to the freebie site
free4every1.com due to issue with ioncube loader ... can't even
have a peek at the site. If heretowin can't sign up, then I probably
can't as well. I will probably initiate paypal dispute as well ... very
sad ... this is my first time buying from WSo.

[Eswar]

Hello fellow vitims this is what i got from paypal.

Resolution Center - Claim Details
We have completed our investigation of this case. No further action is required by you at this time. We have denied this claim. As stated in our User Agreement, PayPal’s Buyer Complaint Policy only applies to the shipment of goods, not to disputes about the attributes or quality of the goods received. We have noted your claim in the seller's record. The seller's account privileges will be limited if excessive complaints are received.

He has escalated this case and given fake information to paypal to make this case closed. I can not do anything further. But if all the buyers complaints about this product paypal will understand the reallity and truth.

The seller's account privileges will be limited if excessive complaints are received.

The paypal needs still more proof about this scammer. So please take action and file the complaint right now. It is the only possible way to get back the money from this scammer.

[Eswar]

Note: He has not responded even from paypal dispute. He used the paypal's policy loop hole and escaped. So i am sure he will not respond for you too. More number of complaints will help to handle this issue. Please take action now.

[shocs]

Hello warriors,
Seems like I'm already called a scammer, how cool!
Alright, I've told you already that I'm not from the US and this method still works for me.
Have you ever heard of proxies? If no here's what they do: they change your ip.
I personally use web proxies and server proxies ( just google these 2 terms and you'll see what I mean ).
I have my life so sorry if I couldn't respond to all of your questions in a timely manner.
If you have more questions please email me on the paypal address because I have to wait 5 minutes before sending one PM after another on this forum and because of that it takes too much to respond to all of your questions via PM. Thank you for your collaboration.

[Eswar]

If he is that much busy how he was able to find time to react to paypal dispute?

He should have replied at least to once for the past 4 PM's sent by me.

If he is genuine person he must have replied to me in the paypal dipute. But he has escalted the dispute to close the case.

Can you guess how he has come to this thread back?

Its only due to the fear of his paypal account is being freezed. ( This will happen by multiple complaints)

The time to getting friendly explanation has over by his escalation of paypal dispute and to close the case.

I believe fellow warriors are smart enough to identify the scammer and a genuine seller.

Don't forget how shaun has got his money back.

I've gone through Visa..to get it back

This guy needs his ass kicked!

I need my money back right now. $15 is nothing for me. But i hate scammers.

Please note his method to make money also scamming people. So there is no wonder of samming people here too.

Please take action.. We will get back the money from paypal.

[Eswar]

I think people at warrior forum are matured and they know how to use web proxies.

But still you need to submit fake street address, area code, country name and phone numbers. You have to scam thousands of people every day to make money.

[Eswar]

Really i wonder how people are always on thread until they collect money from their WSO. Then they escape from the thread without responding to any questions to the buyers.

If they don't have time to give support why do they post their WSO here?

[Srikanth D]

I understand your feelings Eswar. But lets not generalize all WSOs here. I have bought few WSOs and have always got great support after sale.

This is probably one-off. And we can do nothing about it I guess!

Originally Posted by Eswar

Really i wonder how people are always on thread until they collect money from their WSO. Then they escape from the thread without responding to any questions to the buyers.

If they don't have time to give support why do they post their WSO here?

[RedMatrix]

I got the notice, too.

Originally Posted by PayPal

Dear David,
Your seller has chosen to escalate this dispute to a PayPal claim. By
ending communication with you and escalating to a claim, the seller is
asking PayPal to investigate the case and decide the outcome. As part of
our investigation, PayPal reviewed any communication you may have had in
the Resolution Center.

Our investigation into your claim is complete. As stated in our User
Agreement, the claims process only applies to the shipment of goods. It
does not apply to complaints about the attributes or quality of goods
received. Therefore, we are unable to reverse this transaction or issue a
refund.


-----------------------------------
Transaction Details
-----------------------------------

Seller's name: Delibas Mircea
Seller's email: damircea@gmail.com
Case number: PP-634-571-753

[Eswar]

what if I refund you, only YOU, will you keep your mouth shut and stop calling me a scammer?

Few hours back i got this private message. Can someone explain me what does this mean? I am really poor in english.

This is the only PM i got for the past one week. I will post the hot updated private messages when i receive more.

[Srikanth D]

Originally Posted by Eswar

Few hours back i got this private message. Can someone explain me what does this mean? I am really poor in english.

This is the only PM i got for the past one week. I will post the hot updated private messages when i receive more.

We call this as "BRIBING"... Too bad a warrior is doing this...

[Eswar]

We call this as "BRIBING"... Too bad a warrior is doing this...

Sorry heretowin, Really i feel very bad for degrading meself.

If he really paid the money back why do i waste my time here?

[Srikanth D]

Originally Posted by Eswar

Sorry heretowin, Really i feel very bad for degrading meself.

If he really paid the money back why do i waste my time here?

I didnt mean that at you Eswar. .. Sorry for confusions if any.

I am shocked by what Shocs is doing. He is killing his own credibility.. Thats what I meant when I said "Too bad a warrior is doing this... "

Thanks,
Srikanth

[Shaun]

He's a BUM!!

[Eswar]

Ok Srikanth Now i understood and happy. The confusion was due to the Quote you have given to my post instead of his post.

See, If he has contacted politely with some apologies, i would be ready to forgive him and to accept his refund.

But still he is not at all ready to accept what he is doing wrongly. Now he should have undetstood he can not buy everything and everyone with money.

We can not change this kind of people. They have to change themselve after realising. This poor guy is not able to understand that social respect is more important than money. I am sure if he is continue to scamming people like this, he can't even sleep peacefully. I pray god for him.

[Srikanth D]

Eswar, you are right. I completely agree with you.

And ya, sorry for the confusion caused by quoting you


regards,
Srikanth

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by Eswar

Ok Srikanth Now i understood and happy. The confusion was due to the Quote you have given to my post instead of his post.

See, If he has contacted politely with some apologies, i would be ready to forgive him and to accept his refund.

But still he is not at all ready to accept what he is doing wrongly. Now he should have undetstood he can not buy everything and everyone with money.

We can not change this kind of people. They have to change themselve after realising. This poor guy is not able to understand that social respect is more important than money. I am sure if he is continue to scamming people like this, he can't even sleep peacefully. I pray god for him.

Ya I hear ya..

Visa told me that this was not the first complaint..

But Paypal ..seems to not want to do anything..Buyer Beware??

[Eswar]

But Paypal ..seems to not want to do anything..Buyer Beware??

We have to file multiple complaints from everyone to have the paypal investigate this case in detail.

[Jullian]

Originally Posted by Eswar

We have to file multiple complaints from everyone to have the paypal investigate this case in detail.

I've just opened a dispute with them as well, Paypal normally leans towards the customers way, so I hope they help us.

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by Jullian

I've just opened a dispute with them as well, Paypal normally leans towards the customers way, so I hope they help us.

Same here..

Shaun

[Eswar]

I've just opened a dispute with them as well, Paypal normally leans towards the customers way, so I hope they help us.

Thank you so much for taking action. The seller will escalate your dispute to close the case for his favour. Don't worry. If he is ready to give response to your dispute, respect his response and ask him refund politely.

If any of us able to talk with paypal we can solve the issue as early as possible.

[Jullian]

Originally Posted by Eswar

Thank you so much for taking action. The seller will escalate your dispute to close the case for his favour. Don't worry. If he is ready to give response to your dispute, respect his response and ask him refund politely.

If any of us able to talk with paypal we can solve the issue as early as possible.

Yeah he did escalate my dispute, hopefully everyone else with the same problem will do the same.