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Old 03-14-2012, 05:52 PM   #1
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Q: What if I need support? Do I post in this thread?
A: No. This thread is for sales questions and answers only. To get support, email support@vashon.zendesk.com and the support team will get back with you usually within 24 hours.

Q: Are there any known bugs?
A: A couple. But nothing that will stop you from using the plugin.

If you've got a HUGE list on AWeber, you may occasionally see no data in the image. That's because their API has some big flaws with how they provide the subscriber data. We're in talks with AWeber's API team to see if we can get this fixed, but in the meantime our developer is hard at work finding a workaround.

This doesn't happen very often though, and if you set the cache to a 1 minute delay, this problem will be practically non-existent for your prospects.

Q: What if I find a bug?
A: Please report it! We want to make sure the plugin works as smoothly as possible for everyone involved. This is brand new software, so there are bugs in there for sure, but until we get people using it, we won't know what they are for sure. So, if you see a bug, please email us about it so we can get it taken care of as soon as possible.
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Hey everyone,

Chris gave me a review copy of this about 10 minutes ago, right before it went live.

... And I was able to have it up and working already!

Really simple to install and set up. Click, click, click, done.

It really is an awesome plug in and the proof that it provides can't do anything other than BOOST your sales.
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I've been playing around with a review copy that Justin sent me a couple of days ago and I've got to say that this thing is ingenious. The name says it all....this thing creates awesome SOCIAL PROOF. I'm seriously going to use it on all my WP sales and opt-in pages.
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In you sales copy it explains how hard it is to get social proof, however it appears the plugin only reports existing social proof, not create it.

Am I wrong?
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Hey everyone,

Chris gave me a review copy of this about 10 minutes ago, right before it went live.

... And I was able to have it up and working already!

Really simple to install and set up. Click, click, click, done.

It really is an awesome plug in and the proof that it provides can't do anything other than BOOST your sales.
Thanks James! Making the whole process simple was one of our big goals, and the developer Justin and I are working with did an AMAZING job of it!
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what is this i dont see a sales page only 2 buy buttons?
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In you sales copy it explains how hard it is to get social proof, however it appears the plugin only reports existing social proof, not create it.

Am I wrong?
Sort of

I wouldn't call having subscribers social proof until it's displayed publicly like this.

Yes, it reports existing data, but unless you're using our plugin, or something you've developed on your own, this is social proof you just don't get anywhere else.

I hope I explained that well enough
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Hi Chris,

Looks cool but a question; is it legally ok to share information like buyers and subscribers publicly?

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In you sales copy it explains how hard it is to get social proof, however it appears the plugin only reports existing social proof, not create it.

Am I wrong?
It's like the old question about a tree falling in a forest.

In this case until someone sees it is happening it isn't social proof.

Getting subscribers isn't social proof. Social proof comes from communicating/proving to visitors that other people are doing what you are asking them to do, which is exactly what this plugin does.
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Looks cool but a question; is it legally ok to share information like buyers and subscribers publicly?

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Well we got the idea from Aweber and their sales page where they show who has just joined Aweber.

My guess is that unless you have a very odd name there will be several thousand people with the same first name wherever you happen to be based so I can't see there being any privacy concerns. Also it will be fairly obvious when you buy that you will see the list of other people who bought.

It is similar in some ways to a Facebook like box where you can see who else likes the page. Although there you get full names and a photo, so privacy is perhaps even more of a concern.

So although I am not a lawyer I would have thought that this is fine. If you are overly concerned you could add something to your sites privacy policy.
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what is this i dont see a sales page only 2 buy buttons?
Hi Frank, Not sure why that is, you can read the full sales page at the back up site

http://www.socialproofplugin.com
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In you sales copy it explains how hard it is to get social proof, however it appears the plugin only reports existing social proof, not create it.

Am I wrong?
You're totally missing the point of this plugin.

Think of your product like a night club.

When people are passing by, how do they know which club is the best?

It's the one with the line out the door.

That's what this plug in is doing for you, it's providing that line out the door.
Showing everyone who comes to your page "All these other people thought this product was good enough to buy - you should too"
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Sorry Mark! lol, I clicked the wrong quote button when I was writing that. Didn't mean to put you in there
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This is a fantastic plugin! According to a BusinessWeek study, based on social proof, buyers are 300-500% more likely to buy. Who wouldn't want more money with less work?

At first I was a bit skeptical when I saw this plugin. I mean "social proof" is all the rage, but no one really has found a way to create a simple yet powerful plugin that harnesses the power in such a unique way.

Thanks for creating such a uber-cool tool! If things go right, I can totally see how you could get your ROI back from this thing by the weekend!

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Great plugin. The site I tried to set it up on complained it was too big to upload through the regular wp web interface. If this happens to anyone, all you need do is ftp it to your wp-content/plugins directory and then go to the plugins page in wp to activate it. Once activated, just follow the simple instructions in the pdf to be up an running in minutes.
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Chris-

Will this plugin support the TrafficWave.net auto-responder?

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Do you have a demo page where we can see this in action and can you show us the other 3 themes? Also, in the screen shot of the settings page, there doesn't appear to be any way to set the size or the number of individuals you'd like to show. Is there a default number of people that it will show, and is there a way to adjust the size of the display box?

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I see where it is showing a geograpical location.

What if your Aweber form only asks for name, email and phone number (as most list optins do)? What will it show then, just a first name?
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Will this plugin support the TrafficWave.net auto-responder?

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Not at the moment. If Traffic Wave has an API we can look at integrating it. We are also looking at some methods of doing this without hooking into the autoresponder apis, although that will be a while away.

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Do you have a demo page where we can see this in action and can you show us the other 3 themes? Also, in the screen shot of the settings page, there doesn't appear to be any way to set the size or the number of individuals you'd like to show. Is there a default number of people that it will show, and is there a way to adjust the size of the display box?

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Hi Bo, Good idea about the other three themes. I have set up a test page here...

I promise I won't spam you and will in fact delete the list after we close this Special Offer down and move it to clickbank:

http://www.justinwheeler.net/test/socialproof-test/

At the moment it only shows four. We are open to suggestions on this and are taking feedback on what people really want.

This is a fairly complex plugin in terms of coding so we don't want to add on too many bells and whistles until we know that there is lots of popular demand for it. At the moment we are working on a simple widget to go in the sidebar and that may well allow for more then four people to show.... And we also have some developers working on true drag and drop functionality for this and some of my other software but that is probably a month or two out from being ready for public consumption.

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What if your Aweber form only asks for name, email and phone number (as most list optins do)? What will it show then, just a first name?
Hi there, It will always only show the first name... the plugin actually just uses the first word entered in the name field of the form.

The location comes from the IP Address that they signed up from.
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Hi Bo, Good idea about the other three themes. I have set up a test page here...

I promise I won't spam you and will in fact delete the list after we close this Special Offer down and move it to clickbank:

http://www.justinwheeler.net/test/socialproof-test/

At the moment it only shows four. We are open to suggestions on this and are taking feedback on what people really want.

This is a fairly complex plugin in terms of coding so we don't want to add on too many bells and whistles until we know that there is lots of popular demand for it. At the moment we are working on a simple widget to go in the sidebar and that may well allow for more then four people to show.... And we also have some developers working on true drag and drop functionality for this and some of my other software but that is probably a month or two out from being ready for public consumption.
Thanks for the reply, Justin. I'm purchasing, but I would like to suggest that you add the ability to have more individuals show up. I mean, four seems a little sparse when we're talking about social proof. I don't think we can go wrong by showing more, as long as we don't have a list a mile long. I'd like to be able to show at least 6 or 8. It would be great if we could have two columns of names. I think there would be room for the extra column considering it's only showing first name and location.

I'd also like to be able to adjust the size of the box and the nameholders within the box. I know there is a setting for adjusting the font, but does the nameholder change sizes as you increase or decrease the font size? I plan on using this on blog pages under my optin boxes and it would be very helpful to be able to change the various dimensions.

More color variations would also be nice.

Hope I'm not sounding too needy here... All in all, I'd say you've got a great idea here and I'm looking forward to implementing it.

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HI there, I just purchased because I can see how valuable this will be for me. I do have a question however, After purchasing and going through your funnel I ended up at the Developers license OTO.

I think I qualify for the free license since I purchased in the first 48 hours. How do I access this?

THank you, I can't wait to set this up!

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I don't see why it is valuable to show who purchased, and with just a name and a time of purchase. And it's not even clear to me yet if you asked the permission to the buyer to show his/her name to the world...The last point without a written consent is forbidden here in Europe by the way.

Maybe you can clarify what I don't see...
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Thanks for the reply, Justin. I'm purchasing, but I would like to suggest that you add the ability to have more individuals show up. I mean, four seems a little sparse when we're talking about social proof. I don't think we can go wrong by showing more, as long as we don't have a list a mile long. I'd like to be able to show at least 6 or 8. It would be great if we could have two columns of names. I think there would be room for the extra column considering it's only showing first name and location.

I'd also like to be able to adjust the size of the box and the nameholders within the box. I know there is a setting for adjusting the font, but does the nameholder change sizes as you increase or decrease the font size? I plan on using this on blog pages under my optin boxes and it would be very helpful to be able to change the various dimensions.

More color variations would also be nice.

Hope I'm not sounding too needy here... All in all, I'd say you've got a great idea here and I'm looking forward to implementing it.

Thanks,
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Thanks Bo, yes we will be taking on board suggestions to improve the plugin in several ways. By the time we launch this on clickbank a lot of the features you are talking about will be integrated.

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I don't see why it is valuable to show who purchased, and with just a name and a time of purchase. And it's not even clear to me yet if you asked the permission to the buyer to show his/her name to the world...The last point without a written consent is forbidden here in Europe by the way.

Maybe you can clarify what I don't see...
Hi Alessandro, Thanks for your interest. The point you make is I think one that others may also be wondering about.

I think that James Fosters example of a nightclub with a queue of people outside is probably the best explanation of why it is valubale which he mentioned in an earlier post and I quote here:

Think of your product like a night club.

When people are passing by, how do they know which club is the best?

It's the one with the line out the door.

That's what this plug in is doing for you, it's providing that line out the door.

Showing everyone who comes to your page "All these other people thought this product was good enough to buy - you should too"


With regards to the privacy concerns, I am not convinced that showing a first name and a general area where you are located is breaking anyones privacy.

Indeed if you go to aweber.com and see their order page you get a list just like the list created by this plugin showing who has just bought on the right hand side.

Having checked their privacy policy I can see nothing in there that says they will do this with the data, so I guess like us they believe that there is no privacy infringement.

I haven't taken advice on this and I am not a lawyer, but to my mind I do not see how it can be infringing on someones privacy to list a first name and a city.

Furthermore if they see the optin form or the buy button or whatever and they see that first names and Citys are being shown on the page I think they can decide for themselves whether they think there is a danger of their privacy being breached.

I suspect that in 99.9% of cases unless you have a very unusual name there is no danger at all.. If you are like me and are called Justin in a predominantly Spanish speaking City like Trujillo, then I suspect there may be another 9 or so of us, so privacy might be more of a concern.

But to be honest no more really than if I like a facebook page and it shows my name and picture on that page or if I use Facebook comments and my name and picture shows up beneath the post or page where the comments are showing.

However as I say I am not a lawyer and if you think like I do that this is a fantastic idea, but you are concerned about the privacy aspects you may want to take legal advice.
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I saw the value in this immediately! I can completely see how this will result in more subs ect. At least on my blog.

When a visiter arrives to a blog or product, they have no idea if anyone else has been interested enough to subscribe or purchase. Having a dynamic list of proof of popularity will push a significant percent of new interest directly to your your list or purchase.

As far as a name and aprox city being listed... anyone in the IM niche wants to be recognized.

I'd say almost any niche would benefit from this execpt for mayble the ADULT or Embarrassing Problems Niches lol!

BTW thank you for the quick response from the "Social Proof plugin" team.

Brooklyn

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Hi Chris, I need to ask you a private question but I don't have enough post count to PM you, could you do me the honours.

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Couple more questions....

1) Does it pick up the last four subscribers from your Aweber list, or start from when it's installed?

2) If you have a slow building list (1-2 subscribers a week), it is possible to "seed" some stats to give the appearance of more recent visits?
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Not sure if Chris got back to you, if not I just sent you a PM.

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Couple more questions....

1) Does it pick up the last four subscribers from your Aweber list, or start from when it's installed?

2) If you have a slow building list (1-2 subscribers a week), it is possible to "seed" some stats to give the appearance of more recent visits?
Hi there in answer to your questions it should just pick up the last four subscribers from your list altogether.

And at the moment it isn't possible to seed some stats, although that could be something to consider although I think it is probably better to ask some friends to seed it for you!
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Hi Alessandro, Thanks for your interest. The point you make is I think one that others may also be wondering about.

I think that James Fosters example of a nightclub with a queue of people outside is probably the best explanation of why it is valubale which he mentioned in an earlier post and I quote here:

Think of your product like a night club.

When people are passing by, how do they know which club is the best?

It's the one with the line out the door.

That's what this plug in is doing for you, it's providing that line out the door.

Showing everyone who comes to your page "All these other people thought this product was good enough to buy - you should too"


With regards to the privacy concerns, I am not convinced that showing a first name and a general area where you are located is breaking anyones privacy.

Indeed if you go to aweber.com and see their order page you get a list just like the list created by this plugin showing who has just bought on the right hand side.

Having checked their privacy policy I can see nothing in there that says they will do this with the data, so I guess like us they believe that there is no privacy infringement.

I haven't taken advice on this and I am not a lawyer, but to my mind I do not see how it can be infringing on someones privacy to list a first name and a city.

Furthermore if they see the optin form or the buy button or whatever and they see that first names and Citys are being shown on the page I think they can decide for themselves whether they think there is a danger of their privacy being breached.

I suspect that in 99.9% of cases unless you have a very unusual name there is no danger at all.. If you are like me and are called Justin in a predominantly Spanish speaking City like Trujillo, then I suspect there may be another 9 or so of us, so privacy might be more of a concern.

But to be honest no more really than if I like a facebook page and it shows my name and picture on that page or if I use Facebook comments and my name and picture shows up beneath the post or page where the comments are showing.

However as I say I am not a lawyer and if you think like I do that this is a fantastic idea, but you are concerned about the privacy aspects you may want to take legal advice.
Justin, a nightclub has hundreds of customers on week ends. Very few websites have a daily queue of buyers (aWeber is one of them, 10+ years in existence and ten of thousands of unique visitors per day, PR6, Alexa Rank 186 like many here in the WF, uh?) and I mean AFTER the product launch. What's the use of showing "Rick, New York, 2 months ago"? this is what is going to happen more often than not for many IM sites, CB products etc..I guess this plugin is only for product launches, and USA based.

Behind a name and a city there is a real person whom you seems to don't take into consideration. Think of a normal shopping experience in the real world, nobody would agree to have their name, even the first name, mentioned without their permission. Aweber is using this same tool? Not sure why, but the USA is not Europe, where you are looking for trouble even on a one to one level. Furthermore, I can guarantee that a name and a location can definitely identify quite clearly a person in many places over here where many locations are not metropolitan areas...

If you take FB as a reference, you just follow the hype but not the common business sense. FB is an odd animal where many rules are broken...only to be readjusted periodically. Like the forced likes (a sheer absurdity IMO) which have been degraded in the recent timeline change of fan pages for instances. Not sure if FB will keep the hype in the long term btw...It's a kid who had an idea and can't cope with it. Unfortunately Wallstreet is over it...

In short, why don't you change the plugin so that it shows/let you choose "last purchase, this time ago" without name and place? For a product launch this could have some value, too.
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Thanks Alessandro. My guess is from your post above that the plugin isn't for you.

The example of Aweber wasn't so much about it being a great site etc, but about the fact that they use it I suspect because they believe and have almost certainly split tested the fact that the Social Proof of seeing other people buying it is valuable and boosts conversions.

Also that they weren't concerned by the privacy aspects.

I really don't think a plugin that shows how long ago the last purchase was made would have much impact on conversions, but I suppose at some stage we could split test it.

I would also suggest that you only use this plugin when you know traffic and optins / sales are coming into your sales pages and squeeze pages, because you are right in that seeing someone bought two months ago doesn't have much relevance.

Anyway thanks again for your interest and your measured response.
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